[Starmap2-devteam] Fw: [games - Games Coding Help] RE: Bitmap file format

[Trace K. <Tra...@ne...>]

----- Original Message -----
From: Trace Kern <Tra...@ne...>
To: Robert Brix Kjelgaard <bo...@pr...>
Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2001 11:22 PM
Subject: Re: [games - Games Coding Help] RE: Bitmap file format


>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Robert Brix Kjelgaard <bo...@pr...>
> To: Trace Kern <Tra...@ne...>
> Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2001 6:45 PM
> Subject: Re: [games - Games Coding Help] RE: Bitmap file format
>
>
> > Actually, I'm comfortable with the standard Windows technologies and
> tools.
> > I get the impression that SDL and such are good choices if you want to
run
> > on Linux, Mac OS, etc.  There are a lot of differences in how things are
> > done, and these packages try to cover that complexity.
> >
> > For now, I'd prefer to stick to Windows, if that's OK.  I'm being
> reasonable
> > about how the program is constructed, so I think a competent programmer
> > could always take what I'm producing and alter the GUI components but
> leave
> > the issues of how things work otherwise intact.  Also, I can get it done
> > "quicker" if I can concentrate on understanding what's there.  After all
> > "there's always version 2"!  (OK, 3 in our case).
>
> Hey, you're the programmer here, I'm just here to 'head' the project and
> suggest ideas for how to make 2.0 better than the origonal. If you'd feel
> more comfortable sticking with what ya know, cool by me.
> I was just passing along any suggestions I was give, but couldn't
understand
> enough myself to know if they'd be helpful or not. Hehe.
>
> > So far, I've got a "splash screen" up- it's a nifty photo of the
horsehead
> > nebula with some text identifying the program as Starmap 2.0 and the old
> > "exploring in 3 dimensions" (or whatever it was) centered in the top in
> > white.  A totally cool graphics guy could blow it away, I'm sure (fades,
> > sttreaming video, etc), but to me, it's just a splash screen, and good
> > enough for now.  It's supposed to stay up while the program loads its
> files,
> > but at the moment, it just stays up for 5 seconds and vanishes.  Might
be
> a
> > waste of time, actually- C is much faster than Basic, and if these files
> are
> > as simple as they appear to be, that splash time might be pretty
small...
>
> Sounds cool, and don't want to go for fancy anyways, the smaller and
simpler
> we can keep the final package, without sacrificing features and feeps, the
> better in my opinion.
> I'd prefer a less flashy program that was quick and easy to download,
> install, and get right to using than one with lotsa bells and whistles but
> took 40 mins to get going.
>
> > I was going to create an initial dialog for the main menu, and then
> convert
> > the code to load the main data files.  All that stuff's in the
> "Starmap.Bas"
> > file, and it's about 20% of the total source in the program.  I'll
> probably
> > finish a lot of that today- I'll just have to see how it goes.
> >
> > If you think it'd be worthwhile, I can upload at least the binaries
> sometime
> > soon so we can announce our "progress", and keep those project activity
> > scores up there.
>
> Well, lemme know soon as you have something that works and at least
> reasonably does most if not all the stuff the origonal does, and we'll use
> that as an Alpha to start from for making changes and improvement.
> Should be too hard if the code's as simple as you imply. <grin>
>
> Once ya have something, go ahead and upload it and I'll check it out.
> As for binary package, if you can whip up an installer or at least a
> self-extraction package that'd be great.
>
> Oh yeah, about ICQ, I would suggest grabbing it sometime. I find it rather
> handy when trying to get a hold of and talking to someone in real time
> rather than playing email tag. Hehe.
>
> I got yer replies to the RPG-Tools list forwards mixed in with the actual
> list traffic, so I'll just summarize my own counter-replies here...
> Like I said above, my only point in forwarding those posts to you is cause
I
> didn't understand em enough myself to know if they'd be helpful ideas or
> not, though I do agree with you on one salient point.
> Let's stick to just working on a straight port of StarMap for now and
worry
> about features and feeps later.
>
> One of the reasons I wanted to start this project is I really like the
idea
> StarMap represents. I want to be able to use the finished product with
> working on a tabletop RPG I'm writing myself. It'd really help me to
> organize my brain if I could make maps of the game galaxy, worlds,
> governments, etc and have something to visualize with.
>
> So this really is a 'pet project' as it were, but after all the responses
> I've gotten, it looks like the StarMap2 project could be more than my
> personal plaything. It looks like this software will end up filling a void
> noone realized was there.
> Not to say I'll ever make this a commercial project, but I'd like to add a
> few more people from the RPG Tools list to the project email list so they
> can give a bit of feedback and input.
> I'll say right up front though that as Main Developer, you've got final
call
> in regards to code for the project. They can suggest, but you're the
miracle
> worker here...Hehe.
>
>
> Talk to ya soon!
>
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Trace Kern" <Tra...@ne...>
> > To: "Robert Brix Kjelgaard" <bo...@pr...>
> > Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2001 2:56 PM
> > Subject: Fw: [games - Games Coding Help] RE: Bitmap file format
> >
> >
> > > Will this be useful to us?
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: <no...@so...>
> > > To: <no...@so...>
> > > Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2001 12:26 PM
> > > Subject: [games - Games Coding Help] RE: Bitmap file format
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Read and respond to this message at:
> > > > http://sourceforge.net/forum/message.php?msg_id=248532
> > > > By: jakobk
> > > >
> > > > Are you using SDL? If yes, the SDL_image library might be useful.
> > > > (http://www.libsdl.org/projects/SDL_image/index.html).
> > > >
> > > >
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