[Starmap2-devteam] Fw: Still looking for coders?

[Trace K. <Tra...@ne...>]

----- Original Message -----
From: Trace Kern <Tra...@ne...>
To: Robert Brix Kjelgaard <bo...@pr...>
Sent: Friday, October 12, 2001 7:51 PM
Subject: Re: Still looking for coders?


>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Robert Brix Kjelgaard <bo...@pr...>
> To: Trace Kern <Tra...@ne...>
> Sent: Friday, October 12, 2001 5:41 PM
> Subject: Re: Still looking for coders?
>
>
> > Hello again, Trace-
> >
> > I've looked at the stuff- I can certainly do this (even in VB, although
> it'd
> > be a slower job for me if I did).  The original data can be recycled
> easily
> > enough.  I'm not certain I necessarily buy the difficulty of generating
> new
> > ones, though- what Jim did (and it's a good, thorough piece of work,
don't
> > get me wrong) is use good live data to create his maps- so they're
> > "realistic" in the truest sense.  But I imagine some SF RPGer's could
care
> > less about that.
>
> I'm just going on what Jim said as far as the difficulty of using the
Gliese
> star list. Heh.
> In any event yes StarMap was intended to use real data, but at the same
time
> enable you to edit anything you wanted to.
>
> > On the other hand, that's the whole point of a game generator, anyway-
if
> > you want to change the playing field, you can.  Not every player/game
> master
> > is going to want to be totally in tune with the cosmological flavor of
the
> > month.  But having :"real" data can be a big plus with some, making this
> > public-domain software a nice find.
>
> Thanks, and to think if I hadn't gotten irritated on some of the drawbacks
> to a QBasic progra, this gem woulda sat on the shelf forever.
> But that's life and gaming for ya eh?
>
> > It looks like you're looking for a single programmer on this.  If you
> think
> > I'd be the one, shoot me an email and add me to the project (as an
admin,
> > you're the one controlling that).  It'd also be helpful if you put down
> some
> > ideas of what you want changed- how you'd like to approach this, etc.
> down-
> > there's a space for project documentation, which can probably be as
simple
> > as a text file, or something you whip up with an HTML editor.  Or I can
> whip
> > together some initial take at a GUI version, and you can critique it-
I'm
> a
> > pretty flexible guy...
>
> Well you're certainly at the top of the list for several reasons: 1.You
were
> the fastest to respond to the project, including checking out StarMap and
> it's source code.  2. You actually *want* to work on this, rather than me
> finding a friend and 'coercing' them to help me. Which is where most of my
> pet projects land short.
>
> > I can also document ideas, or bounce a few, if that'd help.  But to add
> them
> > to the SF project pages, either you'll have to add them yourself, or
you'd
> > have to make me an admin (either works for me).
>
> Well I do have a short list of features I'd like to change and add to the
> package, but other than that, not entierly sure how to go about this since
> I'm not a programmer. If you think you can whip up a GUI version of what's
> allready there, and you want to, then by all means go ahead. If you do
> something like that we can use that as a jumping off point I suppose.
>
> > I'll switch briefly to sales mode- hope that's not offensive!  My
company
> > essentially sells my time to their customers at about $3 (US) / minute.
> > Working on my own, I've successfully sold my time at rates between $1 -
> > $1.50 / minute.  This is an opportunity for you to get for free what
most
> > people have to really shell out for.  So I really think I'll be one of
the
> > best chances you'll have to make your project succeed.  Not that we'll
> need
> > it, but I also have my own web site and a legitimate business license
> behind
> > it.  I *always* try to finish what I start, and can't recall a time I
> > haven't (except when someone else cancelled, etc).
> >
> > Hope that didn't sound too arrogant- I'd just like to work on something
> like
> > this, it would be "fun" for me (I enjoy programming, but I'm not much
for
> > starting my own projects), so I'm just trying to put the old "best foot
> > forward".
>
> Well, you're the first to give any kind of sales pitch...I'm not used to
> people competing to help with my pet projects. Heh. I'm gonna go ahead and
> add you to the project site tomorrow, or as soon as I get yer Sourceforge
> ID. I'll also add you as an Admin so you can upload files to the project
> site....
>
> > Anyway, hope to hear from you soon, one way or the other.  A final
> warning-
> > do realize that because of my work, the hours I can put into the project
> > will probably vary over time- at the moment, recession and all, things
are
> > kind of slow, so if we start soon, we can probably have something to
show
> > people in short order (which is probably one of the best ways to
generate
> > additional interest in a project, particularly in open-source games).
>
> I've never pretended to be a patient person where my pet projects are
> concerned, so the sooner we get started, the better!
>
> > Best Regards,
> > Bob Kjelgaard
> > Pretty Penny Enterprises, LLC (my "off-hours" business identity)
> > mail:  bo...@pr...
> > www: www.prettypennyenterprises.com
> > Ph: 425-558-1803
>
>