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Re: [SM-USERS] I keep getting logged out of webmail

[James B. B. <by...@ha...>]

On Wed, May 12, 2021 00:04, Paul Lesniewski wrote:

>
> So if your change for some reason helps the problem, that'd be great to
> know, but it may not change what we need to do (or have already done) on
> our end.
>

The change I made to the samesite setting did not make a difference.  I still
get logged out at seemingly random times.  Not often but more than once a day.

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Re: [SM-USERS] Date field for messages in Drafts Folder.

[Ted H. <te...@io...>]

Paul,

Thanks for both dealing with this issue and doing so quite promptly.

Cheers,

Ted Hatfield



On Wed, 12 May 2021, Paul Lesniewski wrote:

> Ted,
>
> On Mon, May 10, 2021 12:18 am, Ted Hatfield wrote:
>>
>> Hey all,
>>
>> A question that I was unable to find an answer for.
>>
>> I had a user ask a question that I was unable to anser.  When a message is
>> placed into the drafts folder the date field is the date/time when the
>> message was started not when it was actually sent.
>>
>> In his instance he started a message and saved it to his drafts folder,
>> then picked up the message a week later when he actually completed and
>> sent the message.
>>
>> The sent message showed the date/time when the message was started not
>> when the message was actually sent.
>>
>> I'm running the squirrelmail package from the FreeBSD ports system.
>>
>> squirrelmail-php73-20200422
>>
>> Can anyone tell me if this is the intended result or if I need to update
>> to the newest version of the 1.43 stable branch to resolve the issue.
>
> This is not exactly intended, but it is the way it is coded -- fair to say
> that it's a bug.  There was even a note in the code suggesting that this
> may be a problem.  Suffice to say that is has been fixed and will be
> available in the next nightly snapshots on our download page (allow 24
> hours).
>
> Thanks for pointing this out.
>
> Cheers,
> Paul
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Re: [SM-USERS] Date field for messages in Drafts Folder.

[Paul L. <pa...@sq...>]

Ted,

On Mon, May 10, 2021 12:18 am, Ted Hatfield wrote:
>
> Hey all,
>
> A question that I was unable to find an answer for.
>
> I had a user ask a question that I was unable to anser.  When a message is
> placed into the drafts folder the date field is the date/time when the
> message was started not when it was actually sent.
>
> In his instance he started a message and saved it to his drafts folder,
> then picked up the message a week later when he actually completed and
> sent the message.
>
> The sent message showed the date/time when the message was started not
> when the message was actually sent.
>
> I'm running the squirrelmail package from the FreeBSD ports system.
>
> squirrelmail-php73-20200422
>
> Can anyone tell me if this is the intended result or if I need to update
> to the newest version of the 1.43 stable branch to resolve the issue.

This is not exactly intended, but it is the way it is coded -- fair to say
that it's a bug.  There was even a note in the code suggesting that this
may be a problem.  Suffice to say that is has been fixed and will be
available in the next nightly snapshots on our download page (allow 24
hours).

Thanks for pointing this out.

Cheers,
Paul
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Re: [SM-USERS] I keep getting logged out of webmail

[Paul L. <pa...@sq...>]

On Wed, May 12, 2021 4:04 am, Paul Lesniewski wrote:
>
>
> On Tue, May 11, 2021 5:14 pm, James B. Byrne wrote:
>> I have stumbled across these which appear to me to be related to the
>> issue
>> I
>> brought to your attention:
>>
>> https://hacks.mozilla.org/2020/08/changes-to-samesite-cookie-behavior/
>>
>> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1617609
>
> Thanks, but as I said, you saw an *advisory warning* in the console and it
> should not have had anything to do with the problem.  But if it is for
> some reason causing an issue, there is a change in SVN now that should
> eliminate any concerns about SameSite.
>
>> I have added our SM web address to the
>> 'network.cookie.sameSite.laxByDefault.disabledHosts' setting in FF.  I
>> will
>> report if the logouts continue or not following this change.
>
> The warning seems to be pointing out the opposite, where what you want is
> Lax but it is currently using None (and thinks the cookies don't have the
> Secure flag).  There's a few issues with this that I pointed out
> previously and again, the change I made in SVN should bypass the whole
> conversation.  Snapshot tarballs with that change are available on our
> downloads page.
>
> So if your change for some reason helps the problem, that'd be great to
> know, but it may not change what we need to do (or have already done) on
> our end.

Also as previously suggested, please indicate what you see on screen and
where -- is the folder list showing a "you must be logged in" error?  What
happens if you right-click that frame and select H and then R?

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Re: [SM-USERS] I keep getting logged out of webmail

[Paul L. <pa...@sq...>]

On Tue, May 11, 2021 5:14 pm, James B. Byrne wrote:
> I have stumbled across these which appear to me to be related to the issue
> I
> brought to your attention:
>
> https://hacks.mozilla.org/2020/08/changes-to-samesite-cookie-behavior/
>
> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1617609

Thanks, but as I said, you saw an *advisory warning* in the console and it
should not have had anything to do with the problem.  But if it is for
some reason causing an issue, there is a change in SVN now that should
eliminate any concerns about SameSite.

> I have added our SM web address to the
> 'network.cookie.sameSite.laxByDefault.disabledHosts' setting in FF.  I
> will
> report if the logouts continue or not following this change.

The warning seems to be pointing out the opposite, where what you want is
Lax but it is currently using None (and thinks the cookies don't have the
Secure flag).  There's a few issues with this that I pointed out
previously and again, the change I made in SVN should bypass the whole
conversation.  Snapshot tarballs with that change are available on our
downloads page.

So if your change for some reason helps the problem, that'd be great to
know, but it may not change what we need to do (or have already done) on
our end.

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Re: [SM-USERS] I keep getting logged out of webmail

[James B. B. <by...@ha...>]

I have stumbled across these which appear to me to be related to the issue I
brought to your attention:

https://hacks.mozilla.org/2020/08/changes-to-samesite-cookie-behavior/

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1617609

I have added our SM web address to the
'network.cookie.sameSite.laxByDefault.disabledHosts' setting in FF.  I will
report if the logouts continue or not following this change.

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Re: [SM-USERS] I keep getting logged out of webmail

[Paul L. <pa...@sq...>]

>> You keep ignoring my suggestion to look at $check_mail_mechanism.  Is
>> the
>> left/folder frame where the "must be logged in" message appears?
>> Right-click in that frame, hit H then R to cause that frame only to
>> reload
>> and see if you are in fact logged out.  If you're not, changing this
>> setting may help.
>>
>
> I am not ignoring you.  I have a lot of more serious things that require
> my
> attention.  SM's changed behaviour is an occasional annoyance, not a
> problem.
>
> I reported it so that you would be aware of this behaviour  and possibly
> correlate it with other reports, if any.  When I get a few spare moments
> then I
> will take a look at the things you suggest.  However, I am constrained to
> use
> whatever version of SM the FreeBSD port maintainer chooses to release
> regardless if a fix is found or not.
>
> In any case, I deeply suspect that culpability lies with FF and not SM.

Ok, thank you for the report.  Hope to hear from any others that may be
seeing this.

Re: [SM-USERS] I keep getting logged out of webmail

[James B. B. <by...@ha...>]

On Mon, May 10, 2021 12:28, Paul Lesniewski wrote:
> Somewhere the reply-to address for the list got butchered.  Latest reply
> from me:
>
> On Mon, May 10, 2021 3:09 pm, James B. Byrne wrote:
>>> What version of SM are you using?
>>
>> SquirrelMail version 1.4.23 [SVN]
>>
>>> When was the date of the last time you installed it?
>>
>> pkg info squirrelmail-php73
>> squirrelmail-php73-20190904
>> Name           : squirrelmail-php73
>> Version        : 20190904
>> Installed on   : Sat Mar 21 20:16:30 2020 EDT
>> Origin         : mail/squirrelmail
>> Architecture   : FreeBSD:12:*
>>
>>> Can you please update it?
>>
>> Not until and unless the FreeBSD port package is updated.
>
> You can download a nightly tarball from our downloads page and install it
> in a parallel directory to see if it works any differently.
>
>>> When you are properly logged in, are the cookies shown to have the
>>> HttpOnly and Secure attributes enabled?
>>
>> A screenshot of the FF storage inspector is attached.
>
> Ok, the cookies look secure when you are logged in.  FYI I have a better
> version of Quicksave that doesn't have such message size limitations as
> when storing its data in cookies.
>
> You keep ignoring my suggestion to look at $check_mail_mechanism.  Is the
> left/folder frame where the "must be logged in" message appears?
> Right-click in that frame, hit H then R to cause that frame only to reload
> and see if you are in fact logged out.  If you're not, changing this
> setting may help.
>

I am not ignoring you.  I have a lot of more serious things that require my
attention.  SM's changed behaviour is an occasional annoyance, not a problem.

I reported it so that you would be aware of this behaviour  and possibly
correlate it with other reports, if any.  When I get a few spare moments then I
will take a look at the things you suggest.  However, I am constrained to use
whatever version of SM the FreeBSD port maintainer chooses to release
regardless if a fix is found or not.

In any case, I deeply suspect that culpability lies with FF and not SM.

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Re: [SM-USERS] I keep getting logged out of webmail

[Paul L. <pa...@sq...>]

Somewhere the reply-to address for the list got butchered.  Latest reply
from me:

On Mon, May 10, 2021 3:09 pm, James B. Byrne wrote:
>> What version of SM are you using?
>
> SquirrelMail version 1.4.23 [SVN]
>
>> When was the date of the last time you installed it?
>
> pkg info squirrelmail-php73
> squirrelmail-php73-20190904
> Name           : squirrelmail-php73
> Version        : 20190904
> Installed on   : Sat Mar 21 20:16:30 2020 EDT
> Origin         : mail/squirrelmail
> Architecture   : FreeBSD:12:*
>
>> Can you please update it?
>
> Not until and unless the FreeBSD port package is updated.

You can download a nightly tarball from our downloads page and install it
in a parallel directory to see if it works any differently.

>> When you are properly logged in, are the cookies shown to have the
>> HttpOnly and Secure attributes enabled?
>
> A screenshot of the FF storage inspector is attached.

Ok, the cookies look secure when you are logged in.  FYI I have a better
version of Quicksave that doesn't have such message size limitations as
when storing its data in cookies.

You keep ignoring my suggestion to look at $check_mail_mechanism.  Is the
left/folder frame where the "must be logged in" message appears?
Right-click in that frame, hit H then R to cause that frame only to reload
and see if you are in fact logged out.  If you're not, changing this
setting may help.

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[SM-USERS] Date field for messages in Drafts Folder.

[Ted H. <te...@io...>]

Hey all,

A question that I was unable to find an answer for.

I had a user ask a question that I was unable to anser.  When a message is 
placed into the drafts folder the date field is the date/time when the 
message was started not when it was actually sent.

In his instance he started a message and saved it to his drafts folder, 
then picked up the message a week later when he actually completed and 
sent the message.

The sent message showed the date/time when the message was started not 
when the message was actually sent.

I'm running the squirrelmail package from the FreeBSD ports system.

squirrelmail-php73-20200422

Can anyone tell me if this is the intended result or if I need to update 
to the newest version of the 1.43 stable branch to resolve the issue.


Thanks,

Ted Hatfield

Re: [SM-USERS] I keep getting logged out of webmail

[Paul L. <pa...@sq...>]

On Fri, May 7, 2021 8:09 pm, James B. Byrne wrote:
>
>
> On Fri, May 7, 2021 12:44, Paul Lesniewski wrote:
>>
>> Also go to Options --> Folder Preferences and make sure "Auto Refresh
>> Folder List" is enabled.
>>
> Auto Refresh Folder List: 5 Minutes

What about the other things I advised you to check?  Please provide as
much information as you can.

> Today the logout occurred while I was inspecting the cookies.  These
> screenshots shows the storage state immediately after the logout.

What version of SM are you using?  When was the date of the last time you
installed it?  Can you please update it?  When you are properly logged in,
are the cookies shown to have the HttpOnly and Secure attributes enabled? 
What you show looks unorthodox.  Are you serving the installation over
HTTPS?  Is it on the local network or remote?

I'd also say you should try to keep terminals open tailing three log
files: web server, PHP and IMAP server and see what the corresponding log
data looks like.

Cheers,
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Re: [SM-USERS] I keep getting logged out of webmail

[Paul L. <pa...@sq...>]

>> On Thu, May 6, 2021 6:30 pm, James B. Byrne wrote:
>>> It has happened several time since but I neglected to run the inspector
>>> before
>>> logging on to SM.  Until today.  This is what I found:
>>>
>>> Cookie �SQMSESSID� will be soon rejected because it has the
>>> �SameSite�
>>> attribute set to �None� or an invalid value, without the
>>> �secure�
>>> attribute. To
>>> know more about the �SameSite� attribute, read
>>> https://developer.mozilla.org/docs/Web/HTTP/Headers/Set-Cookie/SameSite
>>
>> That's just a warning. It won't have anything to do with the logout.
>> Try
>> to see if you still have the SM cookies when it happens.  And please try
>> to better describe when/how it happens - there's nothing much to go on
>> here.  Was it as a result of the folder list refresh?  Some other
>> action?
>> And as I suggested, please try to report on (and play with) the folder
>> refresh config setting.
>>
>
> I cannot recall it happening while I was in the middle of using SM, either
> for
> reading or composing.  Generally, I leave the SM browser tab open, or nor,
> with
> FF open on the desktop (gnome/mate-FreeBSD-12.2) in the background.
> Occasionally when I go to use SM I get the logged out notice and have to
> log in
> again.

Also go to Options --> Folder Preferences and make sure "Auto Refresh
Folder List" is enabled.

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Re: [SM-USERS] I keep getting logged out of webmail

[James B. B. <by...@ha...>]

On Fri, May 7, 2021 06:35, Paul Lesniewski wrote:
>
>
> On Thu, May 6, 2021 6:30 pm, James B. Byrne wrote:
>> It has happened several time since but I neglected to run the inspector
>> before
>> logging on to SM.  Until today.  This is what I found:
>>
>> Cookie �SQMSESSID� will be soon rejected because it has the
>> �SameSite�
>> attribute set to �None� or an invalid value, without the �secure�
>> attribute. To
>> know more about the �SameSite� attribute, read
>> https://developer.mozilla.org/docs/Web/HTTP/Headers/Set-Cookie/SameSite
>
> That's just a warning. It won't have anything to do with the logout.  Try
> to see if you still have the SM cookies when it happens.  And please try
> to better describe when/how it happens - there's nothing much to go on
> here.  Was it as a result of the folder list refresh?  Some other action?
> And as I suggested, please try to report on (and play with) the folder
> refresh config setting.
>

I cannot recall it happening while I was in the middle of using SM, either for
reading or composing.  Generally, I leave the SM browser tab open, or nor, with
FF open on the desktop (gnome/mate-FreeBSD-12.2) in the background.
Occasionally when I go to use SM I get the logged out notice and have to log in
again.

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Re: [SM-USERS] I keep getting logged out of webmail

[Paul L. <pa...@sq...>]

On Thu, May 6, 2021 6:30 pm, James B. Byrne wrote:
> It has happened several time since but I neglected to run the inspector
> before
> logging on to SM.  Until today.  This is what I found:
>
> Cookie �SQMSESSID� will be soon rejected because it has the �SameSite�
> attribute set to �None� or an invalid value, without the �secure�
> attribute. To
> know more about the �SameSite� attribute, read
> https://developer.mozilla.org/docs/Web/HTTP/Headers/Set-Cookie/SameSite

That's just a warning. It won't have anything to do with the logout.  Try
to see if you still have the SM cookies when it happens.  And please try
to better describe when/how it happens - there's nothing much to go on
here.  Was it as a result of the folder list refresh?  Some other action? 
And as I suggested, please try to report on (and play with) the folder
refresh config setting.

As for that warning, it looks like a bit of a bug in Firefox to me --- as
I understand, the default should be Lax and not None.  Furthermore, our
cookies should be getting sent with the secure flag, assuming your site is
served with SSL.  I wouldn't expect Firefox to mix that up, but the
cookies are all getting that flag attached as I see it.  Moreover, if the
default matched their docs, it would not cause this warning anyway.

But I went ahead and added a 'strict' default for SameSite that should
bypass all that.  Pick it up in our next nightly snapshot or here are
patches for 1.4.23:

https://sourceforge.net/p/squirrelmail/code/14917/

Or 1.5.2:

https://sourceforge.net/p/squirrelmail/code/14918/

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> On Tue, May 4, 2021 20:16, Paul Lesniewski wrote:
>>
>>
>> On Mon, May 3, 2021 5:04 pm, James B. Byrne via squirrelmail-users
>> wrote:
>>> I believe this to be a problem with Firefox (85.0.2 FreeBSD-12.2) and
>>> not
>>> with squirrelmail; for the simple reason that SM has not been updated
>>> while FF has and the behaviour only recently became evident.
>>>
>>> However, I would like to know what is going on with FF and how to turn
>>> it
>>> off. If anyone here knows what is happening and how to prevent it I
>>> would
>>> appreciate having that information.
>>
>> Not really possible to guess what's happening without more description
>> of
>> the issue or debugging info.  . . .
>
>
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> Canada  L8E 3C3
>
>

Re: [SM-USERS] I keep getting logged out of webmail

[James B. B. <by...@ha...>]

It has happened several time since but I neglected to run the inspector before
logging on to SM.  Until today.  This is what I found:

Cookie “SQMSESSID” will be soon rejected because it has the “SameSite”
attribute set to “None” or an invalid value, without the “secure” attribute. To
know more about the “SameSite“ attribute, read
https://developer.mozilla.org/docs/Web/HTTP/Headers/Set-Cookie/SameSite


On Tue, May 4, 2021 20:16, Paul Lesniewski wrote:
>
>
> On Mon, May 3, 2021 5:04 pm, James B. Byrne via squirrelmail-users wrote:
>> I believe this to be a problem with Firefox (85.0.2 FreeBSD-12.2) and not
>> with squirrelmail; for the simple reason that SM has not been updated
>> while FF has and the behaviour only recently became evident.
>>
>> However, I would like to know what is going on with FF and how to turn it
>> off. If anyone here knows what is happening and how to prevent it I would
>> appreciate having that information.
>
> Not really possible to guess what's happening without more description of
> the issue or debugging info.  . . .


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Re: [SM-USERS] ***Spam***Re: I keep getting logged out of webmail

[James B. B. <by...@ha...>]

On Wed, May 5, 2021 03:43, Markus Robert Kessler wrote:
> Hi James, hi Paul,
>
> maybe this is a cookie-problem within firefox.
>
> Could you please verify that the squirrelmail cookie is there and is valid
> when you are logged out?

I will check the browser's cookie cache the next time it happens.

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Re: [SM-USERS] I keep getting logged out of webmail

[Niclas A. <nic...@ho...>]

Hi,

FWIW: Years ago I had set my Squirrelmail login page as my browser start page, which automatically logged me out of SM whenever I started a new browser window. I suppose SM cleared its cookies not when logging in but when navigating to the login page.

BR
Niclas

________________________________
From: Markus Robert Kessler <jul...@di...>
Sent: Wednesday, May 5, 2021 9:43 AM
To: pa...@sq... <pa...@sq...>; Squirrelmail User Support Mailing List <squ...@li...>
Subject: Re: [SM-USERS] I keep getting logged out of webmail

Hi James, hi Paul,

maybe this is a cookie-problem within firefox.

Could you please verify that the squirrelmail cookie is there and is valid
when you are logged out?

BR,
Markus



> On Mon, May 3, 2021 5:04 pm, James B. Byrne via squirrelmail-users wrote:
>> I believe this to be a problem with Firefox (85.0.2 FreeBSD-12.2) and
>> not
>> with
>> squirrelmail; for the simple reason that SM has not been updated while
>> FF
>> has
>> and the behaviour only recently became evident.
>>
>> However, I would like to know what is going on with FF and how to turn
>> it
>> off.
>> If anyone here knows what is happening and how to prevent it I would
>> appreciate
>> having that information.
>
> Not really possible to guess what's happening without more description of
> the issue or debugging info.  Watch the network debugging interface and
> see if the folder list refreshes are happening and if not, why not.  The
> debug console should give you hints.  I also recommend looking at what
> your $check_mail_mechanism is -- I use "advanced" but "basic" can also
> solve some refresh issues, though these only work if JavaScript is enabled
> (in the config tool, that's 4 (General Options) ==> 21 (Auto check mail
> mechanism)
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Re: [SM-USERS] I keep getting logged out of webmail

[Markus R. K. <jul...@di...>]

Hi James, hi Paul,

maybe this is a cookie-problem within firefox.

Could you please verify that the squirrelmail cookie is there and is valid
when you are logged out?

BR,
Markus



> On Mon, May 3, 2021 5:04 pm, James B. Byrne via squirrelmail-users wrote:
>> I believe this to be a problem with Firefox (85.0.2 FreeBSD-12.2) and
>> not
>> with
>> squirrelmail; for the simple reason that SM has not been updated while
>> FF
>> has
>> and the behaviour only recently became evident.
>>
>> However, I would like to know what is going on with FF and how to turn
>> it
>> off.
>> If anyone here knows what is happening and how to prevent it I would
>> appreciate
>> having that information.
>
> Not really possible to guess what's happening without more description of
> the issue or debugging info.  Watch the network debugging interface and
> see if the folder list refreshes are happening and if not, why not.  The
> debug console should give you hints.  I also recommend looking at what
> your $check_mail_mechanism is -- I use "advanced" but "basic" can also
> solve some refresh issues, though these only work if JavaScript is enabled
> (in the config tool, that's 4 (General Options) ==> 21 (Auto check mail
> mechanism)
>
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Re: [SM-USERS] I keep getting logged out of webmail

[Paul L. <pa...@sq...>]

On Mon, May 3, 2021 5:04 pm, James B. Byrne via squirrelmail-users wrote:
> I believe this to be a problem with Firefox (85.0.2 FreeBSD-12.2) and not
> with
> squirrelmail; for the simple reason that SM has not been updated while FF
> has
> and the behaviour only recently became evident.
>
> However, I would like to know what is going on with FF and how to turn it
> off.
> If anyone here knows what is happening and how to prevent it I would
> appreciate
> having that information.

Not really possible to guess what's happening without more description of
the issue or debugging info.  Watch the network debugging interface and
see if the folder list refreshes are happening and if not, why not.  The
debug console should give you hints.  I also recommend looking at what
your $check_mail_mechanism is -- I use "advanced" but "basic" can also
solve some refresh issues, though these only work if JavaScript is enabled
(in the config tool, that's 4 (General Options) ==> 21 (Auto check mail
mechanism)

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[SM-USERS] I keep getting logged out of webmail

[James B. B. <by...@ha...>]

I believe this to be a problem with Firefox (85.0.2 FreeBSD-12.2) and not with
squirrelmail; for the simple reason that SM has not been updated while FF has
and the behaviour only recently became evident.

However, I would like to know what is going on with FF and how to turn it off.
If anyone here knows what is happening and how to prevent it I would appreciate
having that information.



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Re: [SM-USERS] Planning on setting up Postfix + Dovecot + Webmail + Apache + MariaDB + PHP using Webmin Control Panel in the Cloud

[Paul L. <pa...@sq...>]

On Wed, April 21, 2021 2:56 pm, Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming wrote:
> Subject: Planning on setting up Postfix + Dovecot + Webmail + Apache +
> MariaDB + PHP using Webmin Control Panel in the Cloud
>
> Good day from the Republic of Singapore,
>
> I am planning to setup Postfix Email Server + Dovecot IMAP/POP3
> Incoming Mail Server + Webmail (Roundcube or Squirrelmail) + Apache
> Web Server + MariaDB Database Server + PHP using Webmin Control Panel
> specifically, in the cloud, preferably Amazon EC2.
>
> Are there any very good and well written guides on doing this type of
> setup?

I personally don't care for guides and like to refer to the documentation
for each product itself so you know what its possibilities are.  Guides
are great as a learning tool, but the authors often make choices for you. 
That doesn't have to be a bad thing, especially when the author helps you
understand those decisions.  In this day and age, I'd expect there are
plenty of great guides.

If you need help with SquirrelMail, just let us know.  Please make sure to
install the 1.4.23-svn snapshot from our downloads page.

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[SM-USERS] Planning on setting up Postfix + Dovecot + Webmail + Apache + MariaDB + PHP using Webmin Control Panel in the Cloud

[Turritopsis D. T. En M. <ceo...@gm...>]

Subject: Planning on setting up Postfix + Dovecot + Webmail + Apache +
MariaDB + PHP using Webmin Control Panel in the Cloud

Good day from the Republic of Singapore,

I am planning to setup Postfix Email Server + Dovecot IMAP/POP3
Incoming Mail Server + Webmail (Roundcube or Squirrelmail) + Apache
Web Server + MariaDB Database Server + PHP using Webmin Control Panel
specifically, in the cloud, preferably Amazon EC2.

Are there any very good and well written guides on doing this type of setup?

I am looking forward to your reply.

Thank you very much.

Mr. Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming, 43 years old as of 21 April 2021
Wed, is a TARGETED INDIVIDUAL (TI) living in Singapore. He is an IT
Consultant with a System Integrator (SI)/computer firm in Singapore.
He is an IT enthusiast.




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Re: [SM-USERS] faulty email contents or an issue ?

[Paul L. <pa...@sq...>]

>>> I get certain email from a particular sender that have a header as
>>> below, and, that display as below:
>>
>> (reply based on receiving the actual email itself offlist)

Also please note that the original plaintext-only message display *does*
display the desired message contents below all the CSS text.  You might
not have scrolled down far enough to see.

>> If you click on "View as HTML" you will see the message (requires
>> view_as_html plugin in 1.4.x).  The message text is off center in SM
>> version 1.5.2 due to a namespace clash in the CSS (which I will fix
>> soon), but it's still readable.  It displays perfectly in SM version
>> 1.4.23.
>
> what's the 'best' version to use, 1.4.x rather than 1.5.x ?

That's up to you.  I personally prefer 1.4.x

> is there some update procedure, or it it simple a matter of d/l new
> version, installing to a new directory and, change/set http path/link ?

There are some differences between 1.4 and 1.5, so I would recommend a
more careful manual upgrade.

Re: [SM-USERS] faulty email contents or an issue ?

[Voytek E. <vo...@sb...>]

On Fri, March 19, 2021 6:45 pm, Paul Lesniewski wrote:
>> I get certain email from a particular sender that have a header as
>> below, and, that display as below:
>
> (reply based on receiving the actual email itself offlist)

Paul,
thank you

>If you click on "View as HTML" you will see the message (requires
> view_as_html plugin in 1.4.x).  The message text is off center in SM
> version 1.5.2 due to a namespace clash in the CSS (which I will fix
> soon), but it's still readable.  It displays perfectly in SM version
> 1.4.23.


what's the 'best' version to use, 1.4.x rather than 1.5.x ?

is there some update procedure, or it it simple a matter of d/l new
version, installing to a new directory and, change/set http path/link ?

V

Re: [SM-USERS] viewing message .eml attachment.

[James B. B. <by...@ha...>]

On Fri, March 19, 2021 02:51, Paul Lesniewski wrote:
>

> The person or mailer software that sent it munged the original and that's
> a problem on their side.
>
> You can just plug in the message to a base64 decoder and get the contents.
>  The part you included is the beginning of a HTML formatted message.
>

Which is what I did.  The message appears to be auto-generated by a service
ticket management application.  It is doubtful that the actual sender has any
control over it.


Thanks,
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