Re: [Squeak-VMdev] Request for help with simulation in 3.7

[Ned K. <ne...@sq...>]

On Friday 09 July 2004 12:33 pm, Dan Ingalls wrote:

> I am now at the point where the 64-bit system works essentially as well as
> the 32-bit system in simulation, but that is not good enough.  There are
> failures in both during morphic display, and these become fatal as they
> recur during attempts to put up error windows.

Where are you seeing the problems?

> Moreover the latest system, 
> even when running MVC, uses outline fonts, and there are failures in
> simulating these.

It doesn't have to use outline fonts. Just remove the TTCFont and set the 
system fonts to not use them.

> I need to know some very basic information, which has changed since I was
> last in control of the VM and simulation.
>
> 1.  If everything worked right, is it the case that a current system should
> be able to simulate itself?  What this means is that, provided that the
> plugin interface all works (and fails) properly, does all the necessary
> failure code exist such that the system will run completely and with
> integrity?  If this is not so, then a further question is, apart from
> whatever fixes may be needed, how much new code would need to be written?

Did you get the various simulation changes that I and others posted (I think I 
mailed some to you)? I don't think they have gotten back into the image (but 
they should), because they needed more testing.

> 2.  Assuming the answer to (1) is yes (and I sure hope it is), then the
> question is, does anyone anywhere have a recent version of Squeak that can
> simulate itself successfully in Morphic?  This means displaying the mouse (
> ideally), and a browser in which one can at least type 3+4, and print the
> value.  If so, then this is all I need, as I can use that to find whatever
> problems there are in the latest 3.7 and VMMaker that I am using for the
> basis of the 64-bit work.

I had this going at one time, as I recall.

> I would be happy to supply further debugging info, and you can, of course,
> see it all for yourself if you have time to load up VMMaker in the latest
> 3.7, and try simulating itself.

What are you loading besides the basic image?

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