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From: Kenneth G. <la...@th...> - 2002-02-16 10:47:18
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hi all i have been regularly posting to this list, but since i am a subscriber to several lists, i automatically delete any list message 'from' me without reading it. so i just discovered that none of my posts are coming to the list - they are all going to the individual to whom i am replying. personally i feel that when pressing the 'reply' button on a message in a list, the reply should go to the list - else it is a big headache, and i feel the list members are also losing in the sense that many replies to problems faced are not appearing on the list at all. could the list admin do something about this? kg |
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From: Dieter S. <dsi...@sq...> - 2002-02-16 16:51:24
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Sourceforge has turned off the Reply-To list feature because apparently it is not proper email etiquette to force a reply-to. I too, on the other hand, feel that everyone on the list looses because a lot of the members on the list reply directly rather than to the list. This is evident when you look at the question/answer ratio. If someone has a suggestion of moving the list to another server please let me know and I'll move it. It's a great deal of work for me but I think it is worthwhile in the long run. I am not all that happy with how Sourceforge is handling various issues, including this tiny tidbit with the mailing lists. Dieter Simader http://www.sql-ledger.org (780) 472-8161 DWS Systems Inc. Accounting Software Fax: 478-5281 =========== On a clear disk you can seek forever =========== On Sat, 16 Feb 2002, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: > hi all > i have been regularly posting to this list, but since i am a subscriber to > several lists, i automatically delete any list message 'from' me without > reading it. so i just discovered that none of my posts are coming to the list > - they are all going to the individual to whom i am replying. personally i > feel that when pressing the 'reply' button on a message in a list, the reply > should go to the list - else it is a big headache, and i feel the list > members are also losing in the sense that many replies to problems faced are > not appearing on the list at all. could the list admin do something about > this? > kg > > |
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From: kevin b. <kev...@bi...> - 2002-02-16 18:43:18
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hi there, in the meantime maybe there could be a regular monthly reminder to tell people to hit the 'reply-all' button? i'm not sure what sourceforge are playing at - surely its better for these crucial lists to work properly than follow some obscure etiquette? kev bailey Dieter Simader wrote: > Sourceforge has turned off the Reply-To list feature because apparently it > is not proper email etiquette to force a reply-to. I too, on the other > hand, feel that everyone on the list looses because a lot of the members > on the list reply directly rather than to the list. This is evident when > you look at the question/answer ratio. > > If someone has a suggestion of moving the list to another server please > let me know and I'll move it. It's a great deal of work for me but I think > it is worthwhile in the long run. > > I am not all that happy with how Sourceforge is handling various issues, > including this tiny tidbit with the mailing lists. > > > Dieter Simader http://www.sql-ledger.org (780) 472-8161 > DWS Systems Inc. Accounting Software Fax: 478-5281 > =========== On a clear disk you can seek forever =========== > > On Sat, 16 Feb 2002, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: > > >>hi all >>i have been regularly posting to this list, but since i am a subscriber to >>several lists, i automatically delete any list message 'from' me without >>reading it. so i just discovered that none of my posts are coming to the list >>- they are all going to the individual to whom i am replying. personally i >>feel that when pressing the 'reply' button on a message in a list, the reply >>should go to the list - else it is a big headache, and i feel the list >>members are also losing in the sense that many replies to problems faced are >>not appearing on the list at all. could the list admin do something about >>this? >>kg >> >> >> > > > > |
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From: Jonas S. <jo...@jo...> - 2002-02-16 19:42:08
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On Sat, 16 Feb 2002, Dieter Simader wrote: > If someone has a suggestion of moving the list to another server please > let me know and I'll move it. It's a great deal of work for me but I > think it is worthwhile in the long run. As suggested earlier I will gladly offer to host the mailinglist - setting it up however is consensus (or Dieters final word). And no - I won't put advertising anywhere. I never found out what it was Dieter experienced looking at my server some time ago... - Jonas -- Jonas Smedegaard (+45 40843136) http://dr.jones.dk/~jonas/ Spiff ApS (= IT-guide dr. Jones ApS) http://dr.jones.dk/ Debian GNU/Linux developer http://people.debian.org/~js/ |
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From: <ma...@ds...> - 2002-02-17 03:22:44
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I missed most of the discussions on this topic, but why not get a newgroup news.sql-ledger.com If you guys need help, I can work something out with hosting on www.it45.com servers. Take care... Sergio Mastronardi Montreal, QC Canada |
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From: Richard L. <ri...@th...> - 2002-02-17 07:44:17
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On Sunday 17 February 2002 3:24, se...@gt... wrote: > I missed most of the discussions on this topic, [snip] Since this discussion runs and runs, I may as well add my ha'p'orth. I didn't miss any of it, and I must say I agree with Rod and Will: While it is "close to a non-issue", surely we are grown up enough to work out how to reply to the list. If necessary the welcome message could just state > NOTICE: When replying, please Reply to the list address. > This way other members know if the issues been resolved or not. > Thanks! Your List administrator. > Then it is really hardly a matter of principle whether replies go in two copies to the person being replied to - on the whole, It is not a bad idea as Will explained. Why not leave things as they are. -- richard |
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From: Kenneth G. <la...@th...> - 2002-02-17 08:03:16
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this is not a non-issue. why not make the default a reply to the list and a notice like this: 'by default your reply will go to all list members. if you are shy, or do not wish to cast your pearls before swine, byepass the list and post to the sender' kg On Sunday 17 February 2002 13:13, Richard Lyons wrote: > On Sunday 17 February 2002 3:24, se...@gt... wrote: > > I missed most of the discussions on this topic, [snip] > > Since this discussion runs and runs, I may as well add my ha'p'orth. I > didn't miss any of it, and I must say I agree with Rod and Will: While it > is "close to a non-issue", surely we are grown up enough to work out how to > reply to the list. If necessary the welcome message could just state > > > NOTICE: When replying, please Reply to the list address. > > This way other members know if the issues been resolved or not. > > Thanks! Your List administrator. > > Then it is really hardly a matter of principle whether replies go in two > copies to the person being replied to - on the whole, It is not a bad idea > as Will explained. > > Why not leave things as they are. > > -- > richard > > NOTICE: When replying, please Reply to the list address. This way other > members know if the issues been resolved or not. Thanks! Your List > administrator. |
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From: Sergio A. K. <ser...@ho...> - 2002-02-17 20:08:49
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Lyons" <ri...@th...> > > On Sunday 17 February 2002 3:24, se...@gt... wrote: > > I missed most of the discussions on this topic, [snip] > > Since this discussion runs and runs, I may as well add my ha'p'orth. I > didn't miss any of it, and I must say I agree with Rod and Will: While it is > "close to a non-issue", surely we are grown up enough to work out how to > reply to the list. If necessary the welcome message could just state > > > NOTICE: When replying, please Reply to the list address. > > This way other members know if the issues been resolved or not. > > Thanks! Your List administrator. sorry, but I don't think this is going to work, you need something like: "push the 'reply-to-all' button, stoopid !" ;) and I don't think even that will work, there is just too much mailings lists that set the reply-to in this world, and that is what most users are using... /sergio |
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From: Vagn S. <va...@ra...> - 2002-02-17 20:51:16
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"Sergio A. Kessler" wrote: > NOTICE: When replying, please Reply to the list address. This way other > members know if the issues have been resolved or not. Thanks! Your List > administrator. This is WRONG. Use REPLY TO ALL. That includes the list. Get a clue. Read this: http://www.unicom.com/pw/reply-to-harmful.html Learn to use your tools properly. Ignorance is no virtue. -- _~|__ >@ (vagn( / \`-ooooooooo-'/ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ |
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From: Rob R. <ri...@me...> - 2002-02-19 18:23:56
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On Sun, 17 Feb 2002, Richard Lyons wrote: > On Sunday 17 February 2002 3:24, se...@gt... wrote: > didn't miss any of it, and I must say I agree with Rod and Will: While it is > "close to a non-issue", surely we are grown up enough to work out how to I agree that people should always check where they are sending their mail. > reply to the list. If necessary the welcome message could just state > > > NOTICE: When replying, please Reply to the list address. The welcome message is fine, but it needs to be reinforced by adding an instructive list sig to every message. In the postgresql lists they have several sigs which rotate or are randomly chosen. rob Live the dream. |
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From: lee j. <le...@im...> - 2002-02-19 20:55:37
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> > didn't miss any of it, and I must say I agree with Rod and Will: While it is > > "close to a non-issue", surely we are grown up enough to work out how to > > I agree that people should always check where they are sending their > mail. right which is alot of the reason for sending to individual ..that way it can avoid trouble by 'accidentily' sending to the whole list when you mean just the person...talk about embarrasing :)LOL.....anyway I have it set to 'individual' at my carpenters list at yahoogroups for 280 people..some 'used' to complain but they're used to it now and I feel its best. > > > reply to the list. If necessary the welcome message could just state > > > > > NOTICE: When replying, please Reply to the list address. > > The welcome message is fine, but it needs to be reinforced by adding > an instructive list sig to every message. yeah true that would be efficient cu lee -=== |
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From: Firman S. <fi...@in...> - 2002-02-20 03:56:03
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Is there any way I can integrate sql-ledger with any POS module? NOTICE: When replying, please Reply to the list address. This way other members know if the issues have been resolved or not. Thanks! Your List administrator. |
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From: kevin b. <kev...@bi...> - 2002-02-17 11:45:09
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hi there, i think the list should be easy for less technical users as well - i would like a company administrator to be able to use the list to keep up to date with _using_ SL - and they may not fully appreciate how the lists work. maybe there should be two lists - one for technical 'resellers' and the other for business users. kev Richard Lyons wrote: > On Sunday 17 February 2002 3:24, se...@gt... wrote: > >>I missed most of the discussions on this topic, [snip] >> > > Since this discussion runs and runs, I may as well add my ha'p'orth. I > didn't miss any of it, and I must say I agree with Rod and Will: While it is > "close to a non-issue", surely we are grown up enough to work out how to > reply to the list. If necessary the welcome message could just state > > >>NOTICE: When replying, please Reply to the list address. >>This way other members know if the issues been resolved or not. >>Thanks! Your List administrator. >> >> > > Then it is really hardly a matter of principle whether replies go in two > copies to the person being replied to - on the whole, It is not a bad idea as > Will explained. > > Why not leave things as they are. > > -- > richard > > NOTICE: When replying, please Reply to the list address. This way other members know if the issues been resolved or not. Thanks! Your List administrator. > > > > |
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From: Vagn S. <va...@ra...> - 2002-02-17 20:47:46
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kevin bailey wrote: > > hi there, > > i think the list should be easy for less technical users as well - i > would like a company administrator to be able to use the list to keep up > to date with _using_ SL - and they may not fully appreciate how the > lists work. > > maybe there should be two lists - one for technical 'resellers' and the > other for business users. > > kev Read this: http://www.unicom.com/pw/reply-to-harmful.html -- _~|__ >@ (vagn( / \`-ooooooooo-'/ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ |
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From: Rod R. <ro...@su...> - 2002-02-17 21:14:13
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On Sunday 17 February 2002 12:47 pm, Vagn Scott wrote: > kevin bailey wrote: [snip] > Read this: > http://www.unicom.com/pw/reply-to-harmful.html Excellent presentation. I hadn't considered the problem of stomping on the original sender's reply-to header. -- Rod http://www.sunsetsystems.com/ |
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From: Sergio A. K. <ser...@ho...> - 2002-02-17 22:07:05
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Vagn Scott" <va...@ra...> > "Sergio A. Kessler" wrote: > > > NOTICE: When replying, please Reply to the list address. This way other > > members know if the issues have been resolved or not. Thanks! Your List > > administrator. > > This is WRONG. hey, take it easy... I did not write that, it's the new mailist footer... (but dieter forget to put the almost obligatory "--" in the first line) > Use REPLY TO ALL. this is what I said (see previous mail)... (but is not going to work) > That includes the list. > Get a clue. Read this: > http://www.unicom.com/pw/reply-to-harmful.html I've read that document some years ago, but you can't ask every new list member to read that document, they just push "reply", they don't even understand what is the "reply-to" feature in their mail apps... (and I don't think that feature is much used nowdays) I repeat: they just push "reply", no amount of bitching is gonna change that (unfortunely)... this is why I think the automatic reply-to to the list has a better cost/benefit ratio. /sergio |
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From: Vagn S. <va...@ra...> - 2002-02-18 00:18:03
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"Sergio A. Kessler" wrote:
> hey, take it easy...
> I did not write that, it's the new mailist footer...
OK. Apologies offered.
> I've read that document some years ago, but you can't
> ask every new list member to read that document
Agreed. They should be told, not asked.
> NOTICE: When replying, please Reply to the list address.
> This way other members know if the issues have been resolved or not.
> Thanks! Your List administrator.
This is still wrong. Send them to the FAQ. How is it better
that everyone should wade through more useless text, than that
the ignorant few should be enlightened?
--
_~|__
>@ (vagn( /
\`-ooooooooo-'/
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
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From: Kenneth G. <la...@th...> - 2002-02-18 02:46:20
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the proof of the pudding is in the eating - since my original mail on this subject this list has really taken off - and will reach the stratosphere when the footer regarding replying to the list becomes a header (most people are on yahoo type lists where they have trained themselves to ignore the ads in the footer) kg On Monday 18 February 2002 05:48, Vagn Scott wrote: > "Sergio A. Kessler" wrote: > > hey, take it easy... > > I did not write that, it's the new mailist footer... > > OK. Apologies offered. > > > I've read that document some years ago, but you can't > > ask every new list member to read that document > > Agreed. They should be told, not asked. > > > NOTICE: When replying, please Reply to the list address. > > This way other members know if the issues have been resolved or not. > > Thanks! Your List administrator. > > This is still wrong. Send them to the FAQ. How is it better > that everyone should wade through more useless text, than that > the ignorant few should be enlightened? |
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From: Sergio A. K. <ser...@ho...> - 2002-02-16 21:51:14
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http://groups.yahoo.com set the reply-to to the list. the bad news: the administrator have to have a yahoo account and yahoo insert html advertising in the foot of every msg. otherwise is a very nice and flexible system. /sergio ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dieter Simader" <dsi...@sq...> > Sourceforge has turned off the Reply-To list feature because apparently it > is not proper email etiquette to force a reply-to. I too, on the other > hand, feel that everyone on the list looses because a lot of the members > on the list reply directly rather than to the list. This is evident when > you look at the question/answer ratio. > > If someone has a suggestion of moving the list to another server please > let me know and I'll move it. It's a great deal of work for me but I think > it is worthwhile in the long run. > > I am not all that happy with how Sourceforge is handling various issues, > including this tiny tidbit with the mailing lists. > > > Dieter Simader http://www.sql-ledger.org (780) 472-8161 > DWS Systems Inc. Accounting Software Fax: 478-5281 > =========== On a clear disk you can seek forever =========== > > On Sat, 16 Feb 2002, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: > > > hi all > > i have been regularly posting to this list, but since i am a subscriber to > > several lists, i automatically delete any list message 'from' me without > > reading it. so i just discovered that none of my posts are coming to the list > > - they are all going to the individual to whom i am replying. personally i > > feel that when pressing the 'reply' button on a message in a list, the reply > > should go to the list - else it is a big headache, and i feel the list > > members are also losing in the sense that many replies to problems faced are > > not appearing on the list at all. could the list admin do something about > > this? > > kg > > > > > > > |
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From: Kenneth G. <la...@th...> - 2002-02-17 02:33:35
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all the yahoogroups i belong to have non html ads kg On Sunday 17 February 2002 03:26, Sergio A. Kessler wrote: > http://groups.yahoo.com set the reply-to to the list. > > the bad news: the administrator have to have a yahoo account > and yahoo insert html advertising in the foot of every msg. > > otherwise is a very nice and flexible system. > > /sergio |
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From: Wil C. <wc...@na...> - 2002-02-16 17:08:10
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Also Sprach Kenneth Gonsalves <la...@th...> on Sat, Feb 16, 2002= at 02:44:50AM PST > hi all > i have been regularly posting to this list, but since i am a subscriber t= o=20 > several lists, i automatically delete any list message 'from' me without= =20 > reading it. so i just discovered that none of my posts are coming to the = list=20 > - they are all going to the individual to whom i am replying. personally = i=20 > feel that when pressing the 'reply' button on a message in a list, the re= ply=20 > should go to the list - else it is a big headache, and i feel the list=20 > members are also losing in the sense that many replies to problems faced = are=20 > not appearing on the list at all. could the list admin do something about= =20 > this? Try the 'reply-to-all' button. Wil --=20 W. Reilly Cooley wc...@na... Naked Ape Consulting http://nakedape.cc irc.linux.com #orlug,#lnxs The public demands certainties; it must be told definitely and a bit raucously that this is true and that is false. But there are no certaintie= s. -- H.L. Mencken, "Prejudice" |
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From: Jeff S. <js...@en...> - 2002-02-16 17:55:31
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Hello all, First, I'd like to say thanks to everyone involved with this project. We're a company just beginning operations, and SQL-Ledger has given us a fantastic product for our initial accounting needs at an equally fantastic price. After my experiences with Oracle Fin. & Great Plains, I'm still a little confused on how we got this system built, deployed, and integrated with our on-line application in less than 3 weeks. Secondly, I do have a couple of questions that were given to me by a third-party who did a brief audit of the system, mostly non-technical. My knowledge of accounting best practices is minimal at best, so I would appreciate it if any of you would send along your experiences, fixes, or work-arounds for the following items. Thanks in advance for your advice. Here are a few of the questions he sent me: Is there functionality for write offs/bad debts? Where will you track the customer's check numbers? Source? How do you void checks? How do you reissue checks? How will you do a bank reconciliation? Where do you mark that a check has cleared the bank? Where are the check numbers in the system? Are they the Source? That's it. Thanks so much for your help! -Jeff Strope |
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From: Steve D. <sd...@sw...> - 2002-02-16 20:43:27
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Hi Jeff. Jeff Strope wrote: > Hello all, > > First, I'd like to say thanks to everyone involved with this project. We're > a company just beginning operations, and SQL-Ledger has given us a fantastic > product for our initial accounting needs at an equally fantastic price. > After my experiences with Oracle Fin. & Great Plains, I'm still a little > confused on how we got this system built, deployed, and integrated with our > on-line application in less than 3 weeks. Something to do with having the source code, perhaps? > Secondly, I do have a couple of questions that were given to me by a > third-party who did a brief audit of the system, mostly non-technical. My > knowledge of accounting best practices is minimal at best, so I would > appreciate it if any of you would send along your experiences, fixes, or > work-arounds for the following items. Thanks in advance for your advice. > > Here are a few of the questions he sent me: > > Is there functionality for write offs/bad debts? Edit the acct. "bad debt exp." and check the deposit button under receivables. Then if a customer sends you 9,000 for a 10,000 dollar invoice and tells you that's it, they are bankrupt, you can apply the 1,000 left on their invoice to bad debt expense and close the invoice. That's the direct write-off method. If you need to follow U.S. GAAP, you need to use the allowance method which would go like this. DON'T mark bad debt exp. as a deposit item (the default). Add an acct. called "Bad Debt Reserve" or "Allowance for bad debt". Check it as a liability and check it's deposit button under receivables. Number it right after the AR acct. number so it shows as a contra asset. Say you figure 5% of your AR will be uncollectible. Go into GL->Add Transaction and book the following: Debit - 5620 - Bad Debt Exp. (5% of AR) Credit - 1255 - Bad Debt reserve Seattle (5% of AR) Then when you have actual write-offs, you apply the amount to Bad debt reserve like a payment. I did an example of this on the Seattle demo (http://www.sql-ledger.com). Look at the trial balance. See acct. 1255 for the 5% accrual and then see my 10,000 dollar write-off for customer Albatross's inv. # 324412 > Where will you track the customer's check numbers? Source? I believe that's the intent of the field as far as AR goes. > How do you void checks? Delete the AP transaction. > How do you reissue checks? Generate another AP transaction. > How will you do a bank reconciliation? Where do you mark that a check has > cleared the bank? On a spreadsheet. Just put the bank statement balance at the top, the G/L cash acct. balance at the bottom with a list of uncleared checks in between. You don't need to mark them cleared in the G/L because basically you pretend they've cleared by reducing the cash acct. when they are issued. It's just like your personal checkbook, where you remove them from your balance when you write them. Untill the bank actually clears it, it's a rec item. > Where are the check numbers in the system? Are they the Source? > > That's it. Thanks so much for your help! Good luck w/ everything. Steve > > > -Jeff Strope |
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From: Jeff S. <js...@en...> - 2002-02-19 21:56:16
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I'm pretty sure this has been covered in the past, but I just want to make sure. The "Print Invoice" & "Print Order" (etc) form buttons do not actually send documents to printers installed on the server, correct? Thanks, Jeff Strope |
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From: Sergio A. K. <ser...@ho...> - 2002-02-19 23:33:17
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actually, you can use the print button of your browser,
but you don't want the form's buttons to print right ?
the easy solution for this is to use css to define a
non printable class, like this:
@media print {
.noprint { /* items with this class won't print */
display: none;
}
}
then you modify the source to include
<div class=noprint>
..... <form's buttons> .....
</div>
hey, you even can define things that don't
display on screen but print
@media screen {
.noscreen { /* items with this class won't display */
display: none;
}
}
it would be good for sql-ledger to use more css...
/sergio
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jeff Strope" <js...@en...>
> I'm pretty sure this has been covered in the past, but I just want to make
> sure.
>
> The "Print Invoice" & "Print Order" (etc) form buttons do not actually
send
> documents to printers installed on the server, correct?
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