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[SL] Simplest way to move SL from PC to Virtual PC?

[Andrew @ A. L. <atm...@km...>]

I am trying to cut back on my servers (Running about 9 hardware servers now,
and want to get down to about 3 or so)
 
My SL sits on a box that is also my webserver and does some routing and
firewall duties (SME Server 7.xx)
 
I have MS virtual Server/PC and/or VMware and would like to run SL from
another server that only has backup duties at night (totally open in the
day)
 
I also have a SBS server and a Terminal server, Trixbox, m0n0Wall and am
looking to drop the SME and move to Untangle.
 
Anyhow, looking for simple and painless move...  What would you recommend?

Re: [SL] Simplest way to move SL from PC to Virtual PC?

[Michael H. <mh...@it...>]

Having just gone through some of that here I can say that VMware is  
by far the most mature product on the market.  As for migration  
strategies, that depends a bit on whether you want to take the  
opportunity to clean things up at the same time or not.
    We decided to go the cleanup route for most of our servers but we  
did image a couple directly.  The Windows boxes came across just fine  
by mirroring them to drive images presented via iSCSI and Ghost  
worked pretty well for the Linux boxes.
    Surprisingly, the Windows migrations actually seemed a bit  
easier.  However, when a Windows image first boots VMware creates a  
settings file for it and will ask you if it was a copy of another  
image - be sure to say No!  Otherwise it will "conveniently" strip  
out your key and you'll have to re-enter the key and re-register w/MS.


Good luck!

Michael

On Sep 29, 2008, at 9:38 PM, Andrew @ ATM Logic wrote:

> I am trying to cut back on my servers (Running about 9 hardware  
> servers now,
> and want to get down to about 3 or so)
>
> My SL sits on a box that is also my webserver and does some routing  
> and
> firewall duties (SME Server 7.xx)
>
> I have MS virtual Server/PC and/or VMware and would like to run SL  
> from
> another server that only has backup duties at night (totally open  
> in the
> day)
>
> I also have a SBS server and a Terminal server, Trixbox, m0n0Wall  
> and am
> looking to drop the SME and move to Untangle.
>
> Anyhow, looking for simple and painless move...  What would you  
> recommend?
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Re: [SL] Simplest way to move SL from PC to Virtual PC?

[Leho K. <le...@da...>]

Don't make a virtualization decision without checking out VirtualBox.

Michael Hasse wrote:

> Having just gone through some of that here I can say that VMware is  
> by far the most mature product on the market.  As for migration  
> strategies, that depends a bit on whether you want to take the  
> opportunity to clean things up at the same time or not.
>     We decided to go the cleanup route for most of our servers but we  
> did image a couple directly.  The Windows boxes came across just fine  
> by mirroring them to drive images presented via iSCSI and Ghost  
> worked pretty well for the Linux boxes.
>     Surprisingly, the Windows migrations actually seemed a bit  
> easier.  However, when a Windows image first boots VMware creates a  
> settings file for it and will ask you if it was a copy of another  
> image - be sure to say No!  Otherwise it will "conveniently" strip  
> out your key and you'll have to re-enter the key and re-register w/MS.

Re: [SL] Simplest way to move SL from PC to Virtual PC?

[Armaghan S. <sa...@le...>]

On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 12:09 PM, Leho Kraav <le...@da...> wrote:
> Don't make a visualization decision without checking out VirtualBox.

I had a look at Virtualbox when I was building SL virtual appliance. I
remember I could not access virtual machine with NAT. May be I did not
spend enough time. I shall give it try again (esp. when 2.0 is out
with new features)

On a side note, I am planning to develop a new virtual appliance using
some Linux flavor (not everybody is comfortable with FreeBSD).

Which will be the preferred Linux distro on virtual machine for you?

Regards
Armaghan

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Re: [SL] Simplest way to move SL from PC to Virtual PC?

[Leho K. <le...@da...>]

Armaghan Saqib wrote:

> On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 12:09 PM, Leho Kraav <le...@da...> wrote:

>> Don't make a visualization decision without checking out VirtualBox.
> 
> I had a look at Virtualbox when I was building SL virtual appliance. I
> remember I could not access virtual machine with NAT. May be I did not
> spend enough time. I shall give it try again (esp. when 2.0 is out
> with new features)
> 
> On a side note, I am planning to develop a new virtual appliance using
> some Linux flavor (not everybody is comfortable with FreeBSD).
> 
> Which will be the preferred Linux distro on virtual machine for you?


Heh "visualization"... "virtualization" obviously.

Yes, VB NAT has not had a GUI to administer reverse network access, it
(port forwarding) can be done with commandline, instructions are in the
PDF manual. Might be better to use Host Interface Networking until a
decent GUI is done, if security is not a huge issue.

I run Gentoo for all my Linux needs. Portage is a very strong system and
package mgmt implementation, IMHO.

Re: [SL] Simplest way to move SL from PC to Virtual PC?

[Andrew @ A. L. <atm...@km...>]

> Having just gone through some of that here I can say that 
> VMware is by far the most mature product on the market.  As 
> for migration strategies, that depends a bit on whether you 
> want to take the opportunity to clean things up at the same 
> time or not.

I would be cleaning things up as I go...  I would like to get m0n0wall and
SL on the same box...(Two diff, images as m0n0 is its own little gig)  So
for the SL what Distro should I go with, or should I just grab the VM image
from the 'other guys'  :)