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From: Andrew @ A. L. <atm...@km...> - 2008-05-07 03:07:10
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Can someone point me in the direction of the restore from backup 101? I have a failed drive, rebuilt from scratch same OS, Same SL (or very close, think I did my last upgrade about... 2 months ago) I have the backup, I have the working new system. Just want to get started and can work out all my invoices etc again later when I have time. Does the restore put all the tax info back etc??? What do you NOT get with the restore? (Logo's, Users, Admins?? What happens to all that?) Thanks for any input. |
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From: Michael H. <mh...@it...> - 2008-05-07 04:59:14
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The restore is all postgresql, nothing to do with SL per se. (The
backup is just a dump of the entire contents of the sql database).
So as long as you've got the same (or newer) version of SL installed
just restore the database and enjoy!
I'm pretty sure I saw a step-by-step somebody posted in the list/
forums awhile back but not seeing it at the moment. Some Googling
may be in order, (and/or you can always purchase the paid support
from Dieter. :)
Thanks,
Michael
On May 6, 2008, at 8:07 PM, Andrew @ ATM Logic wrote:
> Can someone point me in the direction of the restore from backup 101?
> I have a failed drive, rebuilt from scratch same OS, Same SL (or
> very close,
> think I did my last upgrade about... 2 months ago)
> I have the backup, I have the working new system. Just want to get
> started
> and can work out all my invoices etc again later when I have time.
> Does the restore put all the tax info back etc??? What do you NOT
> get with
> the restore? (Logo's, Users, Admins?? What happens to all that?)
>
> Thanks for any input.
>
>
>
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From: Bob G. <bo...@rc...> - 2008-05-07 08:09:04
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As Michael mentions, the help/howto for backup/restore is in the Postgresql site. Michael Hasse wrote: > The restore is all postgresql, nothing to do with SL per se. (The > backup is just a dump of the entire contents of the sql database). > So as long as you've got the same (or newer) version of SL installed > just restore the database and enjoy! > I'm pretty sure I saw a step-by-step somebody posted in the list/ > forums awhile back but not seeing it at the moment. Some Googling > may be in order, (and/or you can always purchase the paid support > from Dieter. :) > > > Thanks, > > Michael > > > On May 6, 2008, at 8:07 PM, Andrew @ ATM Logic wrote: > > >> Can someone point me in the direction of the restore from backup 101? >> I have a failed drive, rebuilt from scratch same OS, Same SL (or >> very close, >> think I did my last upgrade about... 2 months ago) >> I have the backup, I have the working new system. Just want to get >> started >> and can work out all my invoices etc again later when I have time. >> Does the restore put all the tax info back etc??? What do you NOT >> get with >> the restore? (Logo's, Users, Admins?? What happens to all that?) >> >> Thanks for any input. >> >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> --- >> This SF.net email is sponsored by the 2008 JavaOne(SM) Conference >> Don't miss this year's exciting event. There's still time to save >> $100. >> Use priority code J8TL2D2. >> http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;198757673;13503038;p?http:// >> java.sun.com/javaone >> _______________________________________________ >> sql-ledger-users mailing list >> sql...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/sql-ledger-users >> > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by the 2008 JavaOne(SM) Conference > Don't miss this year's exciting event. There's still time to save $100. > Use priority code J8TL2D2. > http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;198757673;13503038;p?http://java.sun.com/javaone > _______________________________________________ > sql-ledger-users mailing list > sql...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/sql-ledger-users > |
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From: Michael H. <mh...@it...> - 2008-05-07 08:23:26
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The step-by-step I'm thinking of had a couple things to watch out for when restoring to a server that had SL already installed. Something about removing the existing DB, (or maybe just the tables?) and tweaking the database user(s). Don't remember now. :/ It wasn't anything earthshaking but probably easier than figuring out the little gotchas on the fly. Thanks, Michael On May 7, 2008, at 1:08 AM, Bob Gustafson wrote: > As Michael mentions, the help/howto for backup/restore is in the > Postgresql site. > > Michael Hasse wrote: >> The restore is all postgresql, nothing to do with SL per se. (The >> backup is just a dump of the entire contents of the sql database). >> So as long as you've got the same (or newer) version of SL installed >> just restore the database and enjoy! >> I'm pretty sure I saw a step-by-step somebody posted in the list/ >> forums awhile back but not seeing it at the moment. Some Googling >> may be in order, (and/or you can always purchase the paid support >> from Dieter. :) >> >> >> Thanks, >> >> Michael >> >> >> On May 6, 2008, at 8:07 PM, Andrew @ ATM Logic wrote: >> >> >>> Can someone point me in the direction of the restore from backup >>> 101? >>> I have a failed drive, rebuilt from scratch same OS, Same SL (or >>> very close, >>> think I did my last upgrade about... 2 months ago) >>> I have the backup, I have the working new system. Just want to get >>> started >>> and can work out all my invoices etc again later when I have time. >>> Does the restore put all the tax info back etc??? What do you NOT >>> get with >>> the restore? (Logo's, Users, Admins?? What happens to all that?) >>> >>> Thanks for any input. >>> >>> >>> >>> -------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> -- >>> --- >>> This SF.net email is sponsored by the 2008 JavaOne(SM) Conference >>> Don't miss this year's exciting event. There's still time to save >>> $100. >>> Use priority code J8TL2D2. >>> http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;198757673;13503038;p?http:// >>> java.sun.com/javaone >>> _______________________________________________ >>> sql-ledger-users mailing list >>> sql...@li... >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/sql-ledger-users >>> >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> ---- >> This SF.net email is sponsored by the 2008 JavaOne(SM) Conference >> Don't miss this year's exciting event. There's still time to save >> $100. >> Use priority code J8TL2D2. >> http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;198757673;13503038;p?http:// >> java.sun.com/javaone >> _______________________________________________ >> sql-ledger-users mailing list >> sql...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/sql-ledger-users >> > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > --- > This SF.net email is sponsored by the 2008 JavaOne(SM) Conference > Don't miss this year's exciting event. There's still time to save > $100. > Use priority code J8TL2D2. > http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;198757673;13503038;p?http:// > java.sun.com/javaone > _______________________________________________ > sql-ledger-users mailing list > sql...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/sql-ledger-users |
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From: Armaghan S. <sa...@le...> - 2008-05-07 08:40:44
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On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 1:23 PM, Michael Hasse <mh...@it...> wrote: > The step-by-step I'm thinking of had a couple things to watch out for > when restoring to a server that had SL already installed. Something > about removing the existing DB, (or maybe just the tables?) and > tweaking the database user(s). Don't remember now. :/ It wasn't > anything earthshaking but probably easier than figuring out the > little gotchas on the fly. > This not-so-earthshaking information seems to be from my wiki for SQL-Ledger: http://wiki.ledger123.com/index.php?n=Local.DataRestore Regards -- * Purpose-built SQL-Ledger Hosting * SQL-Ledger VMware Appliance http://www.ledger123.com/ Free trial available. -- |
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From: Andrew @ A. L. <atm...@km...> - 2008-05-07 17:22:27
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THIS is what I was looking for, I was able to get the data back easy enough. However Logo's/Users/custom forms etc all lost. Also in the past every time I installed SL I was able ot get PDF working... I must have butchered a step as I do not see PDF emails or Prints :( Thanks for the help. PS I did purchace the manual last year, just did not renew this year.... Yet.... > -----Original Message----- > From: sql...@li... > [mailto:sql...@li...] On > Behalf Of Armaghan Saqib > Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2008 3:41 AM > To: sql...@li... > Subject: Re: [SL] Restoring SL from Backup? > > On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 1:23 PM, Michael Hasse > <mh...@it...> wrote: > > The step-by-step I'm thinking of had a couple things to > watch out for > > when restoring to a server that had SL already installed. > Something > > about removing the existing DB, (or maybe just the tables?) and > > tweaking the database user(s). Don't remember now. :/ It wasn't > > anything earthshaking but probably easier than figuring out the > > little gotchas on the fly. > > > > This not-so-earthshaking information seems to be from my wiki > for SQL-Ledger: > http://wiki.ledger123.com/index.php?n=Local.DataRestore > Regards > > -- > * Purpose-built SQL-Ledger Hosting > * SQL-Ledger VMware Appliance > http://www.ledger123.com/ > > Free trial available. > -- > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > ----------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by the 2008 JavaOne(SM) > Conference Don't miss this year's exciting event. There's > still time to save $100. > Use priority code J8TL2D2. > http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;198757673;13503038;p?http://java > .sun.com/javaone > _______________________________________________ > sql-ledger-users mailing list > sql...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/sql-ledger-users |
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From: Luke <acc...@li...> - 2008-05-07 20:47:37
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All of that stuff would have been under /usr/local/sql-ledger (or similar), mostly in the templates directory. Check sql-ledger.conf for the PDF option. On Wed, 7 May 2008, Andrew @ ATM Logic wrote: > THIS is what I was looking for, I was able to get the data back easy enough. > However Logo's/Users/custom forms etc all lost. > Also in the past every time I installed SL I was able ot get PDF working... > I must have butchered a step as I do not see PDF emails or Prints :( > Thanks for the help. PS I did purchace the manual last year, just did not > renew this year.... Yet.... > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: sql...@li... > > [mailto:sql...@li...] On > > Behalf Of Armaghan Saqib > > Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2008 3:41 AM > > To: sql...@li... > > Subject: Re: [SL] Restoring SL from Backup? > > > > On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 1:23 PM, Michael Hasse > > <mh...@it...> wrote: > > > The step-by-step I'm thinking of had a couple things to > > watch out for > > > when restoring to a server that had SL already installed. > > Something > > > about removing the existing DB, (or maybe just the tables?) and > > > tweaking the database user(s). Don't remember now. :/ It wasn't > > > anything earthshaking but probably easier than figuring out the > > > little gotchas on the fly. > > > > > > > This not-so-earthshaking information seems to be from my wiki > > for SQL-Ledger: > > http://wiki.ledger123.com/index.php?n=Local.DataRestore > > Regards > > > > -- > > * Purpose-built SQL-Ledger Hosting > > * SQL-Ledger VMware Appliance > > http://www.ledger123.com/ > > > > Free trial available. > > -- > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > > ----------- > > This SF.net email is sponsored by the 2008 JavaOne(SM) > > Conference Don't miss this year's exciting event. There's > > still time to save $100. > > Use priority code J8TL2D2. > > http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;198757673;13503038;p?http://java > > .sun.com/javaone > > _______________________________________________ > > sql-ledger-users mailing list > > sql...@li... > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/sql-ledger-users > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by the 2008 JavaOne(SM) Conference > Don't miss this year's exciting event. There's still time to save $100. > Use priority code J8TL2D2. > http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;198757673;13503038;p?http://java.sun.com/javaone > _______________________________________________ > sql-ledger-users mailing list > sql...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/sql-ledger-users > -- Luke "When the Republicans are in office, Man oppresses Man; When the Democrats are in office, it's just the opposite." |
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From: Michael H. <mh...@it...> - 2008-05-07 21:16:00
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Luke's right, the SL backup is just a dump of the SQL database, (i.e. the raw data), it does NOT include any custom tweaks to templates etc. You'll need to look at your filesystem backup for any of that. Thanks, Michael On May 7, 2008, at 1:47 PM, Luke wrote: > All of that stuff would have been under /usr/local/sql-ledger (or > similar), mostly in the templates directory. > > Check sql-ledger.conf for the PDF option. > > > On Wed, 7 May 2008, Andrew @ ATM Logic wrote: > >> THIS is what I was looking for, I was able to get the data back >> easy enough. >> However Logo's/Users/custom forms etc all lost. >> Also in the past every time I installed SL I was able ot get PDF >> working... >> I must have butchered a step as I do not see PDF emails or Prints :( >> Thanks for the help. PS I did purchace the manual last year, >> just did not >> renew this year.... Yet.... >> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: sql...@li... >>> [mailto:sql...@li...] On >>> Behalf Of Armaghan Saqib >>> Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2008 3:41 AM >>> To: sql...@li... >>> Subject: Re: [SL] Restoring SL from Backup? >>> >>> On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 1:23 PM, Michael Hasse >>> <mh...@it...> wrote: >>>> The step-by-step I'm thinking of had a couple things to >>> watch out for >>>> when restoring to a server that had SL already installed. >>> Something >>>> about removing the existing DB, (or maybe just the tables?) and >>>> tweaking the database user(s). Don't remember now. :/ It wasn't >>>> anything earthshaking but probably easier than figuring out the >>>> little gotchas on the fly. >>>> >>> >>> This not-so-earthshaking information seems to be from my wiki >>> for SQL-Ledger: >>> http://wiki.ledger123.com/index.php?n=Local.DataRestore >>> Regards >>> >>> -- >>> * Purpose-built SQL-Ledger Hosting >>> * SQL-Ledger VMware Appliance >>> http://www.ledger123.com/ >>> >>> Free trial available. >>> -- >>> >>> -------------------------------------------------------------- >>> ----------- >>> This SF.net email is sponsored by the 2008 JavaOne(SM) >>> Conference Don't miss this year's exciting event. There's >>> still time to save $100. >>> Use priority code J8TL2D2. >>> http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;198757673;13503038;p?http://java >>> .sun.com/javaone >>> _______________________________________________ >>> sql-ledger-users mailing list >>> sql...@li... >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/sql-ledger-users >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> ---- >> This SF.net email is sponsored by the 2008 JavaOne(SM) Conference >> Don't miss this year's exciting event. There's still time to save >> $100. >> Use priority code J8TL2D2. >> http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;198757673;13503038;p?http:// >> java.sun.com/javaone >> _______________________________________________ >> sql-ledger-users mailing list >> sql...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/sql-ledger-users >> > > -- > Luke > > "When the Republicans are in office, Man oppresses Man; When the > Democrats are in office, it's just the opposite." > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > --- > This SF.net email is sponsored by the 2008 JavaOne(SM) Conference > Don't miss this year's exciting event. There's still time to save > $100. > Use priority code J8TL2D2. > http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;198757673;13503038;p?http:// > java.sun.com/javaone > _______________________________________________ > sql-ledger-users mailing list > sql...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/sql-ledger-users |
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From: Andrew @ A. L. <atm...@km...> - 2008-05-08 00:53:37
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Ok, so I checked in the sql-ledger.conf file and the Latex was set to 0, changing it to 1 shows the options, however if I print to PDF Screen I get an error. What should I be looking at next? I am going to go back through my install steps to see if/how I could have missed the Latex install, because as mentioned, this is the first time its failed in 4-5 years. > -----Original Message----- > From: sql...@li... > [mailto:sql...@li...] On > Behalf Of Luke > Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2008 3:47 PM > To: sql...@li... > Subject: Re: [SL] Restoring SL from Backup? > > All of that stuff would have been under /usr/local/sql-ledger > (or similar), mostly in the templates directory. > > Check sql-ledger.conf for the PDF option. > > > On Wed, 7 May 2008, Andrew @ ATM Logic wrote: > > > THIS is what I was looking for, I was able to get the data > back easy enough. > > However Logo's/Users/custom forms etc all lost. > > Also in the past every time I installed SL I was able ot > get PDF working... > > I must have butchered a step as I do not see PDF emails or > Prints :( > > Thanks for the help. PS I did purchace the manual last year, just > > did not renew this year.... Yet.... > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: sql...@li... > > > [mailto:sql...@li...] > On Behalf Of > > > Armaghan Saqib > > > Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2008 3:41 AM > > > To: sql...@li... > > > Subject: Re: [SL] Restoring SL from Backup? > > > > > > On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 1:23 PM, Michael Hasse <mh...@it...> > > > wrote: > > > > The step-by-step I'm thinking of had a couple things to > > > watch out for > > > > when restoring to a server that had SL already installed. > > > Something > > > > about removing the existing DB, (or maybe just the tables?) and > > > > tweaking the database user(s). Don't remember now. :/ > It wasn't > > > > anything earthshaking but probably easier than figuring out the > > > > little gotchas on the fly. > > > > > > > > > > This not-so-earthshaking information seems to be from my wiki for > > > SQL-Ledger: > > > http://wiki.ledger123.com/index.php?n=Local.DataRestore > > > Regards > > > > > > -- > > > * Purpose-built SQL-Ledger Hosting > > > * SQL-Ledger VMware Appliance > > > http://www.ledger123.com/ > > > > > > Free trial available. > > > -- > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > > > ----------- > > > This SF.net email is sponsored by the 2008 JavaOne(SM) Conference > > > Don't miss this year's exciting event. There's still time to save > > > $100. > > > Use priority code J8TL2D2. > > > http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;198757673;13503038;p?http://java > > > .sun.com/javaone > > > _______________________________________________ > > > sql-ledger-users mailing list > > > sql...@li... > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/sql-ledger-users > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > --- This SF.net email is sponsored by the 2008 JavaOne(SM) > Conference > > Don't miss this year's exciting event. There's still time > to save $100. > > Use priority code J8TL2D2. > > > http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;198757673;13503038;p?http://java.sun.com > > /javaone _______________________________________________ > > sql-ledger-users mailing list > > sql...@li... > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/sql-ledger-users > > > > -- > Luke > > "When the Republicans are in office, Man oppresses Man; When > the Democrats are in office, it's just the opposite." > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > ----------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by the 2008 JavaOne(SM) > Conference Don't miss this year's exciting event. There's > still time to save $100. > Use priority code J8TL2D2. > http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;198757673;13503038;p?http://java > .sun.com/javaone > _______________________________________________ > sql-ledger-users mailing list > sql...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/sql-ledger-users |
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From: Luke <sl...@li...> - 2008-05-08 09:26:11
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In the manner of mystical falling trees: If you know there was an error, but are not told what it was: has there really been an error? Or, if you prefer, haiku style: An error shown, No text given us here, Our help can not come. Okay, sorry, I couldn't resist. So what is this error? Luke On Wed, 7 May 2008, Andrew @ ATM Logic wrote: > Ok, so I checked in the sql-ledger.conf file and the Latex was set to 0, > changing it to 1 shows the options, however if I print to PDF Screen I get > an error. What should I be looking at next? > I am going to go back through my install steps to see if/how I could have > missed the Latex install, because as mentioned, this is the first time its > failed in 4-5 years. > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: sql...@li... > > [mailto:sql...@li...] On > > Behalf Of Luke > > Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2008 3:47 PM > > To: sql...@li... > > Subject: Re: [SL] Restoring SL from Backup? > > > > All of that stuff would have been under /usr/local/sql-ledger > > (or similar), mostly in the templates directory. > > > > Check sql-ledger.conf for the PDF option. > > > > > > On Wed, 7 May 2008, Andrew @ ATM Logic wrote: > > > > > THIS is what I was looking for, I was able to get the data > > back easy enough. > > > However Logo's/Users/custom forms etc all lost. > > > Also in the past every time I installed SL I was able ot > > get PDF working... > > > I must have butchered a step as I do not see PDF emails or > > Prints :( > > > Thanks for the help. PS I did purchace the manual last year, just > > > did not renew this year.... Yet.... > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: sql...@li... > > > > [mailto:sql...@li...] > > On Behalf Of > > > > Armaghan Saqib > > > > Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2008 3:41 AM > > > > To: sql...@li... > > > > Subject: Re: [SL] Restoring SL from Backup? > > > > > > > > On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 1:23 PM, Michael Hasse <mh...@it...> > > > > wrote: > > > > > The step-by-step I'm thinking of had a couple things to > > > > watch out for > > > > > when restoring to a server that had SL already installed. > > > > Something > > > > > about removing the existing DB, (or maybe just the tables?) and > > > > > tweaking the database user(s). Don't remember now. :/ > > It wasn't > > > > > anything earthshaking but probably easier than figuring out the > > > > > little gotchas on the fly. > > > > > > > > > > > > > This not-so-earthshaking information seems to be from my wiki for > > > > SQL-Ledger: > > > > http://wiki.ledger123.com/index.php?n=Local.DataRestore > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > -- > > > > * Purpose-built SQL-Ledger Hosting > > > > * SQL-Ledger VMware Appliance > > > > http://www.ledger123.com/ > > > > > > > > Free trial available. > > > > -- > > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > ----------- > > > > This SF.net email is sponsored by the 2008 JavaOne(SM) Conference > > > > Don't miss this year's exciting event. There's still time to save > > > > $100. > > > > Use priority code J8TL2D2. > > > > http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;198757673;13503038;p?http://java > > > > .sun.com/javaone > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > sql-ledger-users mailing list > > > > sql...@li... > > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/sql-ledger-users > > > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > --- This SF.net email is sponsored by the 2008 JavaOne(SM) > > Conference > > > Don't miss this year's exciting event. There's still time > > to save $100. > > > Use priority code J8TL2D2. > > > > > http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;198757673;13503038;p?http://java.sun.com > > > /javaone _______________________________________________ > > > sql-ledger-users mailing list > > > sql...@li... > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/sql-ledger-users > > > > > > > -- > > Luke > > > > "When the Republicans are in office, Man oppresses Man; When > > the Democrats are in office, it's just the opposite." > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > > ----------- > > This SF.net email is sponsored by the 2008 JavaOne(SM) > > Conference Don't miss this year's exciting event. There's > > still time to save $100. > > Use priority code J8TL2D2. > > http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;198757673;13503038;p?http://java > > .sun.com/javaone > > _______________________________________________ > > sql-ledger-users mailing list > > sql...@li... > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/sql-ledger-users > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by the 2008 JavaOne(SM) Conference > Don't miss this year's exciting event. There's still time to save $100. > Use priority code J8TL2D2. > http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;198757673;13503038;p?http://java.sun.com/javaone > _______________________________________________ > sql-ledger-users mailing list > sql...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/sql-ledger-users > -- Luke "When the Republicans are in office, Man oppresses Man; When the Democrats are in office, it's just the opposite." |
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