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From: Nicolas L. <nla...@pe...> - 2001-08-01 19:09:18
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Well. I have DBI installed. And Pg. Still no dice. See my just posted
Subject "Pg not the problem" on the list. Hrmph. This is driving me nuts.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Thomas Good" <to...@ad...>
To: <sql...@li...>
Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2001 2:03 PM
Subject: Re: DBD::Pg...what I need?
> On Wed, 1 Aug 2001, Nicolas Lafferty wrote:
>
> > Is there a difference between DBD-Pg and DBD::Pg. I thought that they
where
> > the same. But if not, that's why i can't get the program working.
> >
> > Nick Lafferty
>
> Hey Nick,
>
> DBD::Pg looks like a fully qualified package::variable...
>
> DBI is the toplevel perl module for database access, it is generic.
> Into it you plug 'drivers' that are specific to the various SQL
> implementations. So to run sql-ledger you'd need the DBI module
> which is available from CPAN as: DBI-version_number.tar.gz
>
> You'd also need DBD-Pg:
> DBD-Pg is the driver used in accessing Pg from perl routines that
> use a type of syntax similar to ESQL/C. Not to muddy the waters
> but Edmund Mergl has two different modules to access Pg databases
> and DBD-Pg is the one designed for DBI that has more familiar
> syntax...at least more familiar to me! ;-)
>
> DBD::Pg is a Package Name::variable so it does not refer to a
> downloadable module. I expect you want a module that looks like:
> DBD-Pg-0.95.tar.gz or something similar (newer version number perhaps).
>
> Cheers,
> Tom
>
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> --------------------------------------------------------------------
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> Residential Services Mobile: 917-282-7359
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>
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From: Jim M. <jim...@wo...> - 2001-08-01 18:10:08
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It appears a user (any user) can edit an existing invoice even after it's created/posted. Using the demo: http://business.dynodns.net/cgi-bin/sql-ledger/login.pl I was even able to modify existing invoice numbers from Receipts and create/post multiple invoices with the same Invoice value (1007 in our case using Customer: ABC Widget Company). We removed the 1007 invoices (using Delete Invoice) so it shouldn't impact any other testing/demo. This appears to be a problem. The procesing under Post Invoice button should check for the existence of the Invoice of the same value prior to creating another. Otherwise two invoices with the same value can be generated, even though the id is different. Not sure of the impact down the line in other tables. |
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From: Thomas G. <to...@ad...> - 2001-08-01 18:02:16
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On Wed, 1 Aug 2001, Nicolas Lafferty wrote:
> Is there a difference between DBD-Pg and DBD::Pg. I thought that they where
> the same. But if not, that's why i can't get the program working.
>
> Nick Lafferty
Hey Nick,
DBD::Pg looks like a fully qualified package::variable...
DBI is the toplevel perl module for database access, it is generic.
Into it you plug 'drivers' that are specific to the various SQL
implementations. So to run sql-ledger you'd need the DBI module
which is available from CPAN as: DBI-version_number.tar.gz
You'd also need DBD-Pg:
DBD-Pg is the driver used in accessing Pg from perl routines that
use a type of syntax similar to ESQL/C. Not to muddy the waters
but Edmund Mergl has two different modules to access Pg databases
and DBD-Pg is the one designed for DBI that has more familiar
syntax...at least more familiar to me! ;-)
DBD::Pg is a Package Name::variable so it does not refer to a
downloadable module. I expect you want a module that looks like:
DBD-Pg-0.95.tar.gz or something similar (newer version number perhaps).
Cheers,
Tom
--------------------------------------------------------------------
SVCMC - Center for Behavioral Health
--------------------------------------------------------------------
Thomas Good tomg@ { admin | q8 } .nrnet.org
Programmer/Analyst Phone: 718-354-5528
Residential Services Mobile: 917-282-7359
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/* Die Wahrheit Ist Irgendwo Da Draussen... */
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From: Nicolas L. <nla...@pe...> - 2001-08-01 17:50:03
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Well. I modified the "Content-length" variable in dnhttpd to "Content-Length" and got to the point where http://blah.com:8000/admin.pl works. But not the login.pl script. I try and it simply returns a blank screen. And i Still get the compilation error on line 65. I'm stumped. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nicolas Lafferty" <nla...@pe...> To: <sql...@li...> Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2001 1:16 PM Subject: DBD::Pg...what I need? > Is there a difference between DBD-Pg and DBD::Pg. I thought that they where > the same. But if not, that's why i can't get the program working. > > Nick Lafferty > > |
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From: Nicolas L. <nla...@pe...> - 2001-08-01 17:24:21
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Is there a difference between DBD-Pg and DBD::Pg. I thought that they where the same. But if not, that's why i can't get the program working. Nick Lafferty |
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From: Roderick A. A. <raa...@ti...> - 2001-08-01 17:04:36
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On Wed, 1 Aug 2001, Jim McLaughlin wrote:
> We are also looking at GNUe as a method for processing.
> Has there been any consideration to using the current sql-ledger backend to
> work within the GNUe forms frontend environment?
I was looking at GNUe as part of another project and thinking of
SQL-Ledger also. I have a few reservations about the GNUe forms
definition but haven't had the time to address them to the project.
> This may support the ability to have multiple frontend types (browser ,
> GTK, etc)?
Great idea.
Cheers,
Rod
--
Remove the word 'try' from your vocabulary ...
Don't try. Do it or don't do it ...
Steers try!
Don Aslett
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From: Jim M. <jim...@wo...> - 2001-08-01 14:04:15
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We are also looking at GNUe as a method for processing. Has there been any consideration to using the current sql-ledger backend to work within the GNUe forms frontend environment? This may support the ability to have multiple frontend types (browser , GTK, etc)? |
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From: Oscar B. <os...@el...> - 2001-08-01 08:29:18
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Point taken! I had misread the html code (it really is too hot at the moment!). Regards, Oscar ----- Message d'origine ----- De : "Dieter Simader" <dsi...@sq...> À : <sql...@li...> Envoyé : mardi 31 juillet 2001 21:13 Objet : Re: SQL Ledger logo > Oscar, > > The SQL-Ledger gif file is distributed with the source code. > > To put a graphics logo on the invoice, financial statements edit the > template and include a img tag. I suggest you keep the graphics files in > the same directory as the templates (i.e templates/oscar) > > > Dieter Simader http://www.sql-ledger.org (780) 472-8161 > DWS Systems Inc. Accounting Software Fax: 478-5281 > =========== On a clear disk you can seek forever =========== > > On Tue, 31 Jul 2001, Oscar Buijten wrote: > > > Hi Dieter, > > > > I had noticed that sql-ledger connects to the internet when I load it. > > The line below comes from the 'version' screen. > > Wouldn't it be an idea to include the logo image with the distribution? > > having said that, it might be an idea to create a blanc image called > > companylogo in the same directory for those people that would like add a > > logo to the login page and the invoice/reports. > > > > <a href="http://www.sql-ledger.org" target=_top><img src=sql-ledger.gif > > border=0> > > > > Cheers, > > > > Oscar > > > > > > > |
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From: Mark W. <ma...@ma...> - 2001-08-01 04:16:30
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Hello All, I would be interested in hearing from anyone who is using SQL-Ledger to track the Australian GST, and how have you found the system, etc. I would like to know how you went so that I can avoid misstakes with the software, before it is too late. In Australia we have a choice, of calculating our GST taxes, a Cash based tax system, or a Non-cash based tax system. With a cash based system, the GST should be calculated when a payment is received, in the Non-cash based tax system the valuation off the entry of the invoice. After testing SQL-Ledger, it looks like that it's setup for the Non-cash based system. The GST showed straight after the invoice was entered. How do we change the GST so that the GST only shows after a payment has been received? My business operates off the cash based system. For the Australian GST, we have to lodge a "BAS" (Business Activity Statement) and pay our GST either Quarterly or monthly. What we needed for the BAS, 1/ Is the total of our all our sales being services, or goods, that total can include or exclude the GST 2/ Show out of our sales the totals of GST-Free, and Export-Sales 3/ Show the total of Capital purchases including the GST 4/ Show the total of Non-Capital purchases including the GST 5/ Show Total salary, wages and other payments 6/ Show the total of withheld payment from the Total salary, "wages and other payments" 7/ Amount withheld when no ABN is quoted.. This is meant to be at 48.5% (ABN= "Australian Business Number") 8/ Any other withheld moneys 9/ The totals of all of the withheld 10/ Summary of all Gst on sales, or GST installments 11/ PAYG tax withheld 12/ PAYG income tax installment 13/ GST on Purchases 14/ The Total that the TAX office is owe, or what they owe you. Umm this is a little more but I think that's about most of it. Hopfully, I can have a look at a way so that i can get these figures out of the system, when I do my BAS statement Cheers Mark Williamson -- Cyber Essentials http://cyber.ebbs.com.au Linux Support and Software 32 Edithvale Rd, Edithvale, Vic 3196 Ph (03) 9774-2657 Fax (03) 9774-2651 |
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From: Mark W. <ma...@ma...> - 2001-07-31 22:56:45
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Hello Dieter, Yes that did work, and thanks, as Konqueror handles the large drop down lists much better than Netscape 4.7. Cheers Mark On Wednesday 01 August 2001 03:15, Dieter Simader wrote: > I think Konqueror wants to see 'Content-length' as 'Content-Length' > > Edit dnhttpd/exec/fileio.pl and http.pl and change the variable > 'Content-length' to 'Content-Length' > > Let me know if it works. > > > Dieter Simader http://www.sql-ledger.org (780) 472-8161 > DWS Systems Inc. Accounting Software Fax: 478-5281 > =========== On a clear disk you can seek forever =========== > > On Tue, 31 Jul 2001, Mark Williamson wrote: > > Hello All, > > > > I am not sure what the reason are but Sql-Ledger and the Konqueror don't > > seem to work to well together.. When I tried the access Sql-Ledger > > with Konqueror, all I get is > > > > > 400 Bad Request > > > > > > This error was encountered attempting to access the file you requested. > > > > > > Additional information: Content-length header missing for POST > > > requestDNHTTPD/0.4.1 at localhost:8000 > > > > Any ideas how to make Konqueror and Sql-Ledger work together? > > > > Cheers > > Mark -- Cyber Essentials http://cyber.ebbs.com.au Linux Support and Software 32 Edithvale Rd, Edithvale, Vic 3196 Ph (03) 9774-2657 Fax (03) 9774-2651 |
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From: <ro...@su...> - 2001-07-31 21:33:19
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Anyone who wants PostgreSQL web hosting and/or web hosting with Sql-ledger preinstalled, please send me a note. I will be offering accounts for this and other Linux-related things for a small monthly fee. Cheers, -- Rod ro...@su... http://www.sunsetsystems.com/ > Hello, > At least one webhosting service has PostgreSQL available: > www.hub.org > in association with www.pgsql.com > Good luck. > Andre Felipe > www.techforce.com.br > www.revistadosmotoclubes.cjb.net > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mensagem anterior <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< > > No dia 27/07/01, 06:19:57, "Kristofer Wolff" <kw...@in...> > escreveu o seguinte sobre o tema leger on mySQL ? : > > >> Hi folks, > >> this is my first entry in the list. I have a question about the >> database. > in >> germany (think in uk ans USA too) the webspace hostings have only >> mysql > for >> there coustomer. My intranet too. >> Is it posible to run the ledger on mysql, and what have i do to change >> > the >> code ? |
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From: Nicolas L. <nla...@pe...> - 2001-07-31 21:23:24
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Well. I finally got the program installed. But now when i login it only displays a blank screen. > > The SQL-Ledger gif file is distributed with the source code. > > To put a graphics logo on the invoice, financial statements edit the > template and include a img tag. I suggest you keep the graphics files in > the same directory as the templates (i.e templates/oscar) > > > Dieter Simader http://www.sql-ledger.org (780) 472-8161 > DWS Systems Inc. Accounting Software Fax: 478-5281 > =========== On a clear disk you can seek forever =========== > > On Tue, 31 Jul 2001, Oscar Buijten wrote: > > > Hi Dieter, > > > > I had noticed that sql-ledger connects to the internet when I load it. > > The line below comes from the 'version' screen. > > Wouldn't it be an idea to include the logo image with the distribution? > > having said that, it might be an idea to create a blanc image called > > companylogo in the same directory for those people that would like add a > > logo to the login page and the invoice/reports. > > > > <a href="http://www.sql-ledger.org" target=_top><img src=sql-ledger.gif > > border=0> > > > > Cheers, > > > > Oscar > > > > > > > > |
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From: Kal K. <ko...@cy...> - 2001-07-31 21:22:31
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Biggest problem as I understand it is the transactions supported under MySQL. I haven't been working on MySQL much lately, anyone know the status of transactions under MySQL? If it's supported, send a link to the list and I'll try to get in and see what can be done next week. Kal Kolberg Lead Developer Cyberdawgs Web Design http://www.cyberdawgs.com Nicolas Lafferty wrote: > I don;t believe that MySQL is supported yet. As far as changing it goes, I'm > sure that a lot of people would enjoy this if you have the knowhow. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Andre Felipe Machado Andre Felipe" <and...@te...> > To: <sql...@li...> > Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2001 3:25 PM > Subject: PostgreSQL web hosting > > Hello, > At least one webhosting service has PostgreSQL available: > www.hub.org > in association with www.pgsql.com > Good luck. > Andre Felipe > www.techforce.com.br > www.revistadosmotoclubes.cjb.net > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mensagem anterior <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< > > No dia 27/07/01, 06:19:57, "Kristofer Wolff" <kw...@in...> > escreveu o seguinte sobre o tema leger on mySQL ? : > > > Hi folks, > > > this is my first entry in the list. I have a question about the database. > in > > germany (think in uk ans USA too) the webspace hostings have only mysql > for > > there coustomer. My intranet too. > > Is it posible to run the ledger on mysql, and what have i do to change > the > > code ? |
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From: Nicolas L. <nla...@pe...> - 2001-07-31 19:46:48
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I don;t believe that MySQL is supported yet. As far as changing it goes, I'm sure that a lot of people would enjoy this if you have the knowhow. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andre Felipe Machado Andre Felipe" <and...@te...> To: <sql...@li...> Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2001 3:25 PM Subject: PostgreSQL web hosting Hello, At least one webhosting service has PostgreSQL available: www.hub.org in association with www.pgsql.com Good luck. Andre Felipe www.techforce.com.br www.revistadosmotoclubes.cjb.net >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mensagem anterior <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< No dia 27/07/01, 06:19:57, "Kristofer Wolff" <kw...@in...> escreveu o seguinte sobre o tema leger on mySQL ? : > Hi folks, > this is my first entry in the list. I have a question about the database. in > germany (think in uk ans USA too) the webspace hostings have only mysql for > there coustomer. My intranet too. > Is it posible to run the ledger on mysql, and what have i do to change the > code ? |
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From: Andre F. M. A. F. <and...@te...> - 2001-07-31 19:21:32
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Hello, At least one webhosting service has PostgreSQL available: www.hub.org=20 in association with www.pgsql.com=20 Good luck. Andre Felipe www.techforce.com.br www.revistadosmotoclubes.cjb.net >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mensagem anterior <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< No dia 27/07/01, 06:19:57, "Kristofer Wolff" <kw...@in...>=20 escreveu o seguinte sobre o tema leger on mySQL ? : > Hi folks, > this is my first entry in the list. I have a question about the databa= se.=20 in > germany (think in uk ans USA too) the webspace hostings have only mysq= l=20 for > there coustomer. My intranet too. > Is it posible to run the ledger on mysql, and what have i do to change= =20 the > code ? |
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From: Dieter S. <dsi...@sq...> - 2001-07-31 19:13:21
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Oscar, The SQL-Ledger gif file is distributed with the source code. To put a graphics logo on the invoice, financial statements edit the template and include a img tag. I suggest you keep the graphics files in the same directory as the templates (i.e templates/oscar) Dieter Simader http://www.sql-ledger.org (780) 472-8161 DWS Systems Inc. Accounting Software Fax: 478-5281 =========== On a clear disk you can seek forever =========== On Tue, 31 Jul 2001, Oscar Buijten wrote: > Hi Dieter, > > I had noticed that sql-ledger connects to the internet when I load it. > The line below comes from the 'version' screen. > Wouldn't it be an idea to include the logo image with the distribution? > having said that, it might be an idea to create a blanc image called > companylogo in the same directory for those people that would like add a > logo to the login page and the invoice/reports. > > <a href="http://www.sql-ledger.org" target=_top><img src=sql-ledger.gif > border=0> > > Cheers, > > Oscar > > > |
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From: Oscar B. <os...@el...> - 2001-07-31 18:39:18
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Hi Dieter, I had noticed that sql-ledger connects to the internet when I load it. The line below comes from the 'version' screen. Wouldn't it be an idea to include the logo image with the distribution? having said that, it might be an idea to create a blanc image called companylogo in the same directory for those people that would like add a logo to the login page and the invoice/reports. <a href="http://www.sql-ledger.org" target=_top><img src=sql-ledger.gif border=0> Cheers, Oscar |
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From: Dieter S. <dsi...@sq...> - 2001-07-31 17:15:28
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I think Konqueror wants to see 'Content-length' as 'Content-Length' Edit dnhttpd/exec/fileio.pl and http.pl and change the variable 'Content-length' to 'Content-Length' Let me know if it works. Dieter Simader http://www.sql-ledger.org (780) 472-8161 DWS Systems Inc. Accounting Software Fax: 478-5281 =========== On a clear disk you can seek forever =========== On Tue, 31 Jul 2001, Mark Williamson wrote: > Hello All, > > I am not sure what the reason are but Sql-Ledger and the Konqueror don't seem > to work to well together.. When I tried the access Sql-Ledger with > Konqueror, all I get is > > > 400 Bad Request > > > > This error was encountered attempting to access the file you requested. > > > > Additional information: Content-length header missing for POST > > requestDNHTTPD/0.4.1 at localhost:8000 > > Any ideas how to make Konqueror and Sql-Ledger work together? > > Cheers > Mark > |
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From: Dieter S. <dsi...@sq...> - 2001-07-31 15:46:33
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This error only occurs when 1) DBD-Pg is not installed 2) you misspelled Pg in the Database setup section (Pg is case sensitive) 3) the web server user (typically nobody.nogroup) doesn't have write access to the users directory see the FAQ for more information. Dieter Simader http://www.sql-ledger.org (780) 472-8161 DWS Systems Inc. Accounting Software Fax: 478-5281 =========== On a clear disk you can seek forever =========== On Tue, 31 Jul 2001, Nicolas Lafferty wrote: > Let me know if you figure it out. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Wayne" <inf...@pi...> > To: <sql...@li...> > Sent: Monday, July 30, 2001 4:37 PM > Subject: Re: Login.pl Compilation failed > > > > I get the same error when doing login.pl. > > Wayne > > > > Nicolas Lafferty wrote: > > > > > Fo some reason i get a Compilation failed in require at > /path/to/login.pl > > > line 65. > > > I'm using the private directory installation with the included server > > > software. > > > Any suggestions? > > > > > > Nicholas Lafferty > > > > > > > |
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From: Nicolas L. <nla...@pe...> - 2001-07-31 15:05:39
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Let me know if you figure it out. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wayne" <inf...@pi...> To: <sql...@li...> Sent: Monday, July 30, 2001 4:37 PM Subject: Re: Login.pl Compilation failed > I get the same error when doing login.pl. > Wayne > > Nicolas Lafferty wrote: > > > Fo some reason i get a Compilation failed in require at /path/to/login.pl > > line 65. > > I'm using the private directory installation with the included server > > software. > > Any suggestions? > > > > Nicholas Lafferty > > |
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From: Martin L. <ma...@li...> - 2001-07-31 12:49:40
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Mark Williamson wrote: > > Hello All, > > I am not sure what the reason are but Sql-Ledger and the Konqueror don't seem > to work to well together.. When I tried the access Sql-Ledger with > Konqueror, all I get is > > > 400 Bad Request > > > > This error was encountered attempting to access the file you requested. > > > > Additional information: Content-length header missing for POST > > requestDNHTTPD/0.4.1 at localhost:8000 > > Any ideas how to make Konqueror and Sql-Ledger work together? I'd guess Konqueror and sql-ledger's built-in DNHTTPD don't get along. I've been using sql-ledger in apache cgi mode with Konqueror for quite some time now, no problems so far. -- Martin Lillepuu | E-mail: ma...@li... | GSM: +372 51 56 450 |
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From: Mark W. <ma...@ma...> - 2001-07-31 10:05:59
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Hello All, I am not sure what the reason are but Sql-Ledger and the Konqueror don't seem to work to well together.. When I tried the access Sql-Ledger with Konqueror, all I get is > 400 Bad Request > > This error was encountered attempting to access the file you requested. > > Additional information: Content-length header missing for POST > requestDNHTTPD/0.4.1 at localhost:8000 Any ideas how to make Konqueror and Sql-Ledger work together? Cheers Mark -- Cyber Essentials http://cyber.ebbs.com.au Linux Support and Software 32 Edithvale Rd, Edithvale, Vic 3196 Ph (03) 9774-2657 Fax (03) 9774-2651 |
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From: Kal K. <lan...@cy...> - 2001-07-31 02:31:32
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Kal Kolberg wrote: > Hmmm, > SQL-Ledger appears to be a excellent package for accounting. The biggest > problem I see is the lack of a users manual and tutorial for non-accountants. > Being a non-accountant type myself, I am exceedingly aware of the lack of > documentation. Would there be any objections to starting up a project to > document and teach accounting based on SQL-Ledger? > > Kal Kolberg > Lead Developer > Cyberdawgs Web Development http://www.cyberdawgs.com > > Dieter Simader wrote: > > > The user form is for company information and to enter database information. > > > > The Database section can be challenging if you do not know anything about > > SQL servers. A good place to look for explainations is the FAQ and the > > screen shots page. > > > > Dieter Simader http://www.sql-ledger.org (780) 472-8161 > > DWS Systems Inc. Accounting Software Fax: 478-5281 > > =========== On a clear disk you can seek forever =========== > > > > On Wed, 25 Jul 2001, Christopher Snow wrote: > > > > > I am trying to figure out what all the fields mean on the user forms, but > > > its taking me a long time by trial and error. Are there any plans to > > > provide any user documentation? ...Can I help? > > > > > > Chris Snow > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp > > > > > > > > > |
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From: Wayne <inf...@pi...> - 2001-07-30 20:49:10
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I get the same error when doing login.pl. Wayne Nicolas Lafferty wrote: > Fo some reason i get a Compilation failed in require at /path/to/login.pl > line 65. > I'm using the private directory installation with the included server > software. > Any suggestions? > > Nicholas Lafferty |
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From: Nicolas L. <nla...@pe...> - 2001-07-30 17:10:58
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Well. DBD::Pg is installed. I assume that's the one i need. one other thing. when i go blah.com/cgi-bin/sql-ledger/login.pl gives me the 500 error but blah.com:8000/login.pl gives me a 400 Bad Request ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dieter Simader" <dsi...@sq...> To: <sql...@li...> Sent: Monday, July 30, 2001 12:56 PM Subject: Re: Login.pl Compilation failed > check if you installed DBD-Pg > > Steve sent a perl script to the list last week. You can run it to probe > for the driver. > > > Dieter Simader http://www.sql-ledger.org (780) 472-8161 > DWS Systems Inc. Accounting Software Fax: 478-5281 > =========== On a clear disk you can seek forever =========== > > On Mon, 30 Jul 2001, Nicolas Lafferty wrote: > > > Fo some reason i get a Compilation failed in require at /path/to/login.pl > > line 65. > > I'm using the private directory installation with the included server > > software. > > Any suggestions? > > > > > > Nicholas Lafferty > > > > > > > > > > |