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[SL] Trend analysis - additional development

[Bernd P. <bp...@ch...>]

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>At the end of the day I just want to get some work done - by all means 
>try and demonstrate that SL still has a friendly and helpful community 
>to work with, but so far I'm not impressed.


Hi Ed,

why don't you just write the specification for the functions you
require, publish it somewhere and ask Dieter for a quotation?

If you wish alternatives you could even make a tender. Then, go for the
best offer.

Looks straight forward to me...

Bernd

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Re: [SL] Trend analysis

[J.M. \Jersey\ M. <je...@ib...>]

"little" scripts are "biiig" for some people :). Would you share it?

Best regards
"Jersey"

-----Original Message-----
From: sql...@li...
[mailto:sql...@li...] On Behalf Of C.
Duncan Hudson
Sent: 04 June 2008 04:29 AM
To: sql...@li...
Subject: Re: [SL] Trend analysis

What kind of trends are you looking for?  For sales analysis I wrote a 
little Perl script that is cron'd to run on the 5th day of each month 
(gives me a couple of days to fix any month end issues).  The script 
summarizes each sales person's sales and receivables for the month.  It 
also provides a delta of the month over the previous month and the month 
over the same month one year ago.  Finally, it builds a nice little 
(electric company bill style) 13 month bar graph.  The script then 
emails the personalized report to the salesperson and their manager.

For inventory analysis I have a Perl script that  is cron'd hourly.  My 
reorder points (minimum), and EOQ are recalculated each time the script 
runs.  When ever any of the stocked items falls below their minimum an 
email is fired off to the person who does the parts ordering.  The 
script also does Pareto Analysis (ABC) and labels each item as such 
along with its percentage of both sales and revenue.

Dunc

Munroe Sollog wrote:
> I am wondering how people perform trend analysis?
>
> I am looking to graph my AR and AP and different journals  etc...  It
> looks like sql-ledger has some very standard reports built-in but is
> there another tool that people use other than a spreadsheet?
>
>   


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Re: [SL] Trend analysis

[Armaghan S. <sa...@le...>]

On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 4:27 PM, Ed W <li...@wi...> wrote:
> C. Duncan Hudson wrote:
>> What kind of trends are you looking for?  For sales analysis I wrote a
>> little Perl script that is cron'd to run on the 5th day of each month
> Can we see the scripts?

I did some work using GD::Graph a while back for a client. It was
something really easy and simple. Quick search could not find it. Let
me find this script and I shall post it here for you all.

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Re: [SL] Trend analysis

[Dr E. W L. <el...@li...>]

Give it a rest now!

el

On Jun 7, 2008, at 02:11, Ed W wrote:

> You are really labouring this aren't you?
>
> Why not just properly read before applying scathing comments - the
> original comment came from Dieter who was commenting that he had seen
> one of my comments to the LSMB guys.
>
> I commented (not unreasonably) that the SL community appears  
> frequently
> hostile and you then proved my point with your rather pointless  
> attacks
> (Dieter wasn't too warm either)
>
> At the end of the day I just want to get some work done - by all means
> try and demonstrate that SL still has a friendly and helpful community
> to work with, but so far I'm not impressed.
>
> Regards
>
> Ed W
>
>
> Jeff Roberts wrote:
>> Hi Ed
>>
>> My apologies, maybe you genuinely didn't realize that your comment
>> sounded juvenile to me, I guess I should have considered that before
>> calling you childish. I sometimes forget that on the internet there  
>> are
>> different cultures and nationalities and that not all of my childhood
>> experiences were shared by all others.
>>
>> I apologize to the list for de-railing this thread.
>>
>> Where I grew up kids would use that pattern to try to make themselves
>> look bigger or better, they would tell someone that they were about  
>> to
>> give them something or do something nice but now that the other  
>> person
>> had slighted them they were no longer willing to extend the  
>> friendship
>> or gratuity. The truth was always that they had no intention of
>> extending the gratuity in the first place but were only saying so to
>> maliciously tease the other person.
>>
>> It went sort of like this:
>>
>> Billy calls Sally a boogerhead or some other such taunt.
>>
>> Sally says "I was going to give you some of my candy at lunch but now
>> I'm not going to"
>>
>> The effort by Sally was to try to make Billy sorry for slighting  
>> Sally.
>>
>> Billy may think Sally was telling the truth the first time it happens
>> and apologize or suck up but quickly learns from experience that  
>> Sally
>> isn't being genuine.
>>
>> It was a childish game.
>>
>> Jeff
>>
>>
>> Ed W wrote:
>>
>>> Jeff Roberts wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> Ed
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> but until 10 minutes ago restarting support
>>>>> was a serious possibility.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Give me a break! Do you have any idea how childish that sounds?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> No?  I don't see why it would appear childish?
>>>
>>> Bottom line is that I have a business to run - this is not about  
>>> which
>>> is my favourite or any other nonsense - just cold hard, "what  
>>> enables me
>>> to get on with my job"
>>>
>>> Dieter asks "What are you still doing here".  This does not sound  
>>> to me
>>> like I'm being welcomed back no?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Are you going to take your ball $$ and go home?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Well that doesn't sound like you want me either?
>>>
>>> Yes - it's my money - I have to work very hard for it and yes I will
>>> spend it where I get best value.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> You have 20K - 40K to spend on software but you're complaining on  
>>>> other
>>>> lists about the SQL-Ledger then feigning hurt feelings when  
>>>> called on it?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> I have no idea where you are going with this?
>>>
>>> As I already said - SL is a fairly great bit of software and has  
>>> got me
>>> so far - now I have outgrown (SL 2.6) and I need to move to  
>>> something
>>> else.  Right now I have narrowed it down to TinyERP, SL, LSMB and
>>> Hansaworld (big $$ package which I have since pretty much  
>>> rejected).  I
>>> need something sufficiently customised that I am prepared to spend  
>>> some
>>> money on it to get what I need
>>>
>>> However, whatever the reality, perhaps its just a language barrier  
>>> or
>>> whatever, but no matter why - I get a feeling of hostility from  
>>> the SL
>>> community and just like now I don't get a strong sense that I will  
>>> do
>>> well to risk the success of my business to some software where the
>>> community following it is as hostile as you are
>>>
>>> "Complaining" is the word you used - actually if you followed the
>>> conversation on the SL list (and read my private emails to Chris)  
>>> then
>>> you would see that I have spent most time complaining about LSMB -  
>>> it
>>> basically has most of the same problems (for me) as SL 2.6.
>>>
>>> So I'm not particularly "complaining" about SL, but lets be frank  
>>> - it
>>> does not suit my needs - why is this a problem to you though?  I  
>>> still
>>> think Dieter has built a great bit of software - it just doesn't  
>>> suit
>>> all my needs right now (2.6 remember)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Grow up!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Charming.
>>>
>>> Have I called you some names?  I think it's not me who is being  
>>> childish?
>>>
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Re: [SL] Trend analysis

[Armaghan S. <sa...@le...>]

On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 8:30 AM, David J <ja...@in...> wrote:
> Duncan
> I've been thinking of preparing some end-of-month reports to
> run automagically by cronjob, and email to
> owner/manager/administrator.
> Is it possible to somehow get any existing SQL-L reports
> sent this way, or will my custom perl script need to dig
> (and format) its own data directly from the SQL-L database ?
> We've previously used some perl scripts to insert data into
> SQL-L, but can't see any way to capture SQL-L output for ->
> email.

Here is a quick and dirty way I use to email reports. This method uses
API call to generate the required report in a temporary file and than
uses mutt to email it. You can all this in a shell script file and run
through cron.

[code]
#!/usr/local/bin/bash
./ar.pl "path=bin/mozilla&login=armaghan&password=armaghan&action=continue&nextsub=transactions&summarY=1&open=Y&l_amount=Y&l_description=Y&l_invnumber=Y&l_name=Y&l_paid=Y&l_transdate=Y&vc=customer&ARAP=AR&outstanding=1"
> /tmp/outstanding.html
mutt -a /tmp/outstanding.html -s 'Outstanding report'
sa...@le... < /dev/null
[/code]

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Re: [SL] Trend analysis

[Ed W <li...@wi...>]

Hi

> Out of curiosity you mention that you are running 2.6 and you have out
> grown it (congratulations, business must be going well for you). Have
> you tried the 2.8 series, does that cure some of the issues that you
> have?
>   

No I have stuck with 2.6 because it's about the last version which 
offers the opportunity to jump either to 2.8 or LSMB.  At the moment 
it's not clear (to me) which is going to be my best option

The main reason I am on the fence is that I simply don't get a warm 
feeling that I can get help longterm from the SL community, nor purchase 
development at a sensible price.  Hey I could be very wrong - I'm just 
telling you what impression *I'm* getting from the tone from this 
community. 

2.8 has some interesting features though.

Regards

Ed W

Re: [SL] Trend analysis

[Mike <dra...@ih...>]

Hi Ed,

(Please note I am not trying to stir, or upset anyone, these are genuine
questions from me)

Out of curiosity you mention that you are running 2.6 and you have out
grown it (congratulations, business must be going well for you). Have
you tried the 2.8 series, does that cure some of the issues that you
have?

I noticed in the thread on LSMB that you were trying to gather momentum
to get progress moving in a direction that you need, and that should be
commended, as I think supporting any project should be.  Personally I
sit in the SQL-Ledger camp, as it does work for me in the minor capacity
that I use it for. Yes I have tried LSMB, and whilst their goals are
good, the product in my opinion isn't there yet.


On Sat, 2008-06-07 at 02:11 +0100, Ed W wrote:

> At the end of the day I just want to get some work done - by all means 
> try and demonstrate that SL still has a friendly and helpful community 
> >> So I'm not particularly "complaining" about SL, but lets be frank - it 
> >> does not suit my needs - why is this a problem to you though?  I still 
> >> think Dieter has built a great bit of software - it just doesn't suit 
> >> all my needs right now (2.6 remember)

Re: [SL] Trend analysis

[Ed W <li...@wi...>]

You are really labouring this aren't you?

Why not just properly read before applying scathing comments - the 
original comment came from Dieter who was commenting that he had seen 
one of my comments to the LSMB guys. 

I commented (not unreasonably) that the SL community appears frequently 
hostile and you then proved my point with your rather pointless attacks 
(Dieter wasn't too warm either)

At the end of the day I just want to get some work done - by all means 
try and demonstrate that SL still has a friendly and helpful community 
to work with, but so far I'm not impressed.

Regards

Ed W


Jeff Roberts wrote:
> Hi Ed
>
> My apologies, maybe you genuinely didn't realize that your comment 
> sounded juvenile to me, I guess I should have considered that before 
> calling you childish. I sometimes forget that on the internet there are 
> different cultures and nationalities and that not all of my childhood 
> experiences were shared by all others.
>
> I apologize to the list for de-railing this thread.
>
> Where I grew up kids would use that pattern to try to make themselves 
> look bigger or better, they would tell someone that they were about to 
> give them something or do something nice but now that the other person 
> had slighted them they were no longer willing to extend the friendship 
> or gratuity. The truth was always that they had no intention of 
> extending the gratuity in the first place but were only saying so to 
> maliciously tease the other person.
>
> It went sort of like this:
>
> Billy calls Sally a boogerhead or some other such taunt.
>
> Sally says "I was going to give you some of my candy at lunch but now 
> I'm not going to"
>
> The effort by Sally was to try to make Billy sorry for slighting Sally.
>
> Billy may think Sally was telling the truth the first time it happens 
> and apologize or suck up but quickly learns from experience that Sally 
> isn't being genuine.
>
> It was a childish game.
>
> Jeff
>
>
> Ed W wrote:
>   
>> Jeff Roberts wrote:
>>   
>>     
>>> Ed
>>>   
>>>     
>>>       
>>>> but until 10 minutes ago restarting support 
>>>> was a serious possibility. 
>>>>     
>>>>       
>>>>         
>>> Give me a break! Do you have any idea how childish that sounds?
>>>   
>>>     
>>>       
>> No?  I don't see why it would appear childish?
>>
>> Bottom line is that I have a business to run - this is not about which 
>> is my favourite or any other nonsense - just cold hard, "what enables me 
>> to get on with my job"
>>
>> Dieter asks "What are you still doing here".  This does not sound to me 
>> like I'm being welcomed back no?
>>
>>   
>>     
>>> Are you going to take your ball $$ and go home?
>>>   
>>>     
>>>       
>> Well that doesn't sound like you want me either?
>>
>> Yes - it's my money - I have to work very hard for it and yes I will 
>> spend it where I get best value.
>>
>>   
>>     
>>> You have 20K - 40K to spend on software but you're complaining on other 
>>> lists about the SQL-Ledger then feigning hurt feelings when called on it?
>>>   
>>>     
>>>       
>> I have no idea where you are going with this?
>>
>> As I already said - SL is a fairly great bit of software and has got me 
>> so far - now I have outgrown (SL 2.6) and I need to move to something 
>> else.  Right now I have narrowed it down to TinyERP, SL, LSMB and 
>> Hansaworld (big $$ package which I have since pretty much rejected).  I 
>> need something sufficiently customised that I am prepared to spend some 
>> money on it to get what I need
>>
>> However, whatever the reality, perhaps its just a language barrier or 
>> whatever, but no matter why - I get a feeling of hostility from the SL 
>> community and just like now I don't get a strong sense that I will do 
>> well to risk the success of my business to some software where the 
>> community following it is as hostile as you are
>>
>> "Complaining" is the word you used - actually if you followed the 
>> conversation on the SL list (and read my private emails to Chris) then 
>> you would see that I have spent most time complaining about LSMB - it 
>> basically has most of the same problems (for me) as SL 2.6.
>>
>> So I'm not particularly "complaining" about SL, but lets be frank - it 
>> does not suit my needs - why is this a problem to you though?  I still 
>> think Dieter has built a great bit of software - it just doesn't suit 
>> all my needs right now (2.6 remember)
>>
>>   
>>     
>>> Grow up!
>>>   
>>>     
>>>       
>> Charming.
>>
>> Have I called you some names?  I think it's not me who is being childish?
>>
>> Ed W
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Re: [SL] Trend analysis

[Jeff R. <je...@jr...>]

Hi Ed

My apologies, maybe you genuinely didn't realize that your comment 
sounded juvenile to me, I guess I should have considered that before 
calling you childish. I sometimes forget that on the internet there are 
different cultures and nationalities and that not all of my childhood 
experiences were shared by all others.

I apologize to the list for de-railing this thread.

Where I grew up kids would use that pattern to try to make themselves 
look bigger or better, they would tell someone that they were about to 
give them something or do something nice but now that the other person 
had slighted them they were no longer willing to extend the friendship 
or gratuity. The truth was always that they had no intention of 
extending the gratuity in the first place but were only saying so to 
maliciously tease the other person.

It went sort of like this:

Billy calls Sally a boogerhead or some other such taunt.

Sally says "I was going to give you some of my candy at lunch but now 
I'm not going to"

The effort by Sally was to try to make Billy sorry for slighting Sally.

Billy may think Sally was telling the truth the first time it happens 
and apologize or suck up but quickly learns from experience that Sally 
isn't being genuine.

It was a childish game.

Jeff


Ed W wrote:
> Jeff Roberts wrote:
>   
>> Ed
>>   
>>     
>>> but until 10 minutes ago restarting support 
>>> was a serious possibility. 
>>>     
>>>       
>> Give me a break! Do you have any idea how childish that sounds?
>>   
>>     
>
> No?  I don't see why it would appear childish?
>
> Bottom line is that I have a business to run - this is not about which 
> is my favourite or any other nonsense - just cold hard, "what enables me 
> to get on with my job"
>
> Dieter asks "What are you still doing here".  This does not sound to me 
> like I'm being welcomed back no?
>
>   
>> Are you going to take your ball $$ and go home?
>>   
>>     
>
> Well that doesn't sound like you want me either?
>
> Yes - it's my money - I have to work very hard for it and yes I will 
> spend it where I get best value.
>
>   
>> You have 20K - 40K to spend on software but you're complaining on other 
>> lists about the SQL-Ledger then feigning hurt feelings when called on it?
>>   
>>     
>
> I have no idea where you are going with this?
>
> As I already said - SL is a fairly great bit of software and has got me 
> so far - now I have outgrown (SL 2.6) and I need to move to something 
> else.  Right now I have narrowed it down to TinyERP, SL, LSMB and 
> Hansaworld (big $$ package which I have since pretty much rejected).  I 
> need something sufficiently customised that I am prepared to spend some 
> money on it to get what I need
>
> However, whatever the reality, perhaps its just a language barrier or 
> whatever, but no matter why - I get a feeling of hostility from the SL 
> community and just like now I don't get a strong sense that I will do 
> well to risk the success of my business to some software where the 
> community following it is as hostile as you are
>
> "Complaining" is the word you used - actually if you followed the 
> conversation on the SL list (and read my private emails to Chris) then 
> you would see that I have spent most time complaining about LSMB - it 
> basically has most of the same problems (for me) as SL 2.6.
>
> So I'm not particularly "complaining" about SL, but lets be frank - it 
> does not suit my needs - why is this a problem to you though?  I still 
> think Dieter has built a great bit of software - it just doesn't suit 
> all my needs right now (2.6 remember)
>
>   
>> Grow up!
>>   
>>     
>
> Charming.
>
> Have I called you some names?  I think it's not me who is being childish?
>
> Ed W
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Re: [SL] Trend analysis

[Ed W <li...@wi...>]

Dieter Simader wrote:
> I asked a simple question and you hurle insults.
>   

Hmm, you asked: "Why are you still here?" - doesn't seem like a warm 
greeting?

and I wrote back (in part)

"Good luck to you in any case - you have created a very compelling bit 
of software and deserve to profit from it" - this was suppose to be a 
compliment no? 

There are no insults being hurled here and none of the rest of my email 
was meant to cause offence - specifically the bit where I say: "please 
don't be insulted if you mean otherwise" should be a clue?

Your software has served me well for a couple of years now and I tried 
to thank you for that...  I don't see that it's an insult that I am now 
looking for something which fits my needs more closely as my business 
has started to expand?  I even have a small budget to pay to get what I 
need...

> Is it so hard to provide a reasonable answer rather than you getting all 
> uptight about feeling rejected.
>   

I tried hard to give you a reasonable answer.  Whether you intend to or 
not, the reality is that *your* emails appear to me to be hostile.  If 
you don't intend them to be that way then I think you need to try harder 
to make that clear. 

Your email certainly doesn't warm me to the idea that I should risk my 
development capital with SL, but lets be clear: there is no bullshit 
here, I *need* something which suits *my* business processes better than 
SL 2.6 and I need it soon.  It could be SL 2.8, but I don't get a warm 
feeling that I am going to get what I need from the SL community, but 
you are welcome to at least try and extend an olive branch if my 
business is interesting?

"Non hostile" regards from a current user

Ed W


>> Dieter Simader wrote:
>>     
>>> On Fri, 6 Jun 2008, Ed W wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> You are still here, why?
>>>
>>> http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?thread_name=484435EA.7000309%40wildgooses.com&forum_name=ledger-smb-devel
>>>
>>>       
>> I am on SL 2.6.27 (which I have "outgrown").  I am trying to decide
>> where to go next
>>
>>     

Re: [SL] Trend analysis

[Ed W <li...@wi...>]

Jeff Roberts wrote:
> Ed
>   
>> but until 10 minutes ago restarting support 
>> was a serious possibility. 
>>     
> Give me a break! Do you have any idea how childish that sounds?
>   

No?  I don't see why it would appear childish?

Bottom line is that I have a business to run - this is not about which 
is my favourite or any other nonsense - just cold hard, "what enables me 
to get on with my job"

Dieter asks "What are you still doing here".  This does not sound to me 
like I'm being welcomed back no?

> Are you going to take your ball $$ and go home?
>   

Well that doesn't sound like you want me either?

Yes - it's my money - I have to work very hard for it and yes I will 
spend it where I get best value.

> You have 20K - 40K to spend on software but you're complaining on other 
> lists about the SQL-Ledger then feigning hurt feelings when called on it?
>   

I have no idea where you are going with this?

As I already said - SL is a fairly great bit of software and has got me 
so far - now I have outgrown (SL 2.6) and I need to move to something 
else.  Right now I have narrowed it down to TinyERP, SL, LSMB and 
Hansaworld (big $$ package which I have since pretty much rejected).  I 
need something sufficiently customised that I am prepared to spend some 
money on it to get what I need

However, whatever the reality, perhaps its just a language barrier or 
whatever, but no matter why - I get a feeling of hostility from the SL 
community and just like now I don't get a strong sense that I will do 
well to risk the success of my business to some software where the 
community following it is as hostile as you are

"Complaining" is the word you used - actually if you followed the 
conversation on the SL list (and read my private emails to Chris) then 
you would see that I have spent most time complaining about LSMB - it 
basically has most of the same problems (for me) as SL 2.6.

So I'm not particularly "complaining" about SL, but lets be frank - it 
does not suit my needs - why is this a problem to you though?  I still 
think Dieter has built a great bit of software - it just doesn't suit 
all my needs right now (2.6 remember)

> Grow up!
>   

Charming.

Have I called you some names?  I think it's not me who is being childish?

Ed W

Re: [SL] Trend analysis

[Dr E. L. <el...@li...>]

Nonsense.

el

on 6/6/08 9:10 PM Luke said the following:
> Ledgersmb's got its issues, but it's on the road to becoming rather good.  
> More than one developer for a start, and the developers actually welcome 
> conversation with the users, instead of asking sarcastic questions 
> seemingly designed to alienate them.
> 
> Apparently enough is going on there, that Dieter finds it useful to 
> monitor their development list, else he would not have had that post to 
> throw in Ed's face.  Not that there's anything wrong with him monitoring 
> it--this is open source, after all.
> 
> On Fri, 6 Jun 2008, Michael Hasse wrote:
> 
>> Wow!
>>     I mean, just... wow!
>>     So I guess a lot of people are moving to LedgerSMB then?
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Michael
>>
>>
>> On Jun 6, 2008, at 8:13 AM, Dieter Simader wrote:
>>
>>> On Fri, 6 Jun 2008, Ed W wrote:
>>>
>>>> C. Duncan Hudson wrote:
>>>>> What kind of trends are you looking for?  For sales analysis I  
>>>>> wrote a
>>>>> little Perl script that is cron'd to run on the 5th day of each  
>>>>> month
>>>>> (gives me a couple of days to fix any month end issues).  The script
>>>>> summarizes each sales person's sales and receivables for the  
>>>>> month.  It
>>>>> also provides a delta of the month over the previous month and  
>>>>> the month
>>>>> over the same month one year ago.  Finally, it builds a nice little
>>>>> (electric company bill style) 13 month bar graph.  The script then
>>>>> emails the personalized report to the salesperson and their manager.
>>>>>
>>>>> For inventory analysis I have a Perl script that  is cron'd  
>>>>> hourly.  My
>>>>> reorder points (minimum), and EOQ are recalculated each time the  
>>>>> script
>>>>> runs.  When ever any of the stocked items falls below their  
>>>>> minimum an
>>>>> email is fired off to the person who does the parts ordering.  The
>>>>> script also does Pareto Analysis (ABC) and labels each item as such
>>>>> along with its percentage of both sales and revenue.
>>>>>
>>>> Can we see the scripts?
>>>>
>>>> Ed W
>>> You are still here, why?
>>>
>>> http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?thread_name=484435EA. 
>>> 7000309%40wildgooses.com&forum_name=ledger-smb-devel
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Re: [SL] Trend analysis

[Luke <sl...@li...>]

Ledgersmb's got its issues, but it's on the road to becoming rather good.  
More than one developer for a start, and the developers actually welcome 
conversation with the users, instead of asking sarcastic questions 
seemingly designed to alienate them.

Apparently enough is going on there, that Dieter finds it useful to 
monitor their development list, else he would not have had that post to 
throw in Ed's face.  Not that there's anything wrong with him monitoring 
it--this is open source, after all.

On Fri, 6 Jun 2008, Michael Hasse wrote:

> Wow!
>     I mean, just... wow!
>     So I guess a lot of people are moving to LedgerSMB then?
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Michael
> 
> 
> On Jun 6, 2008, at 8:13 AM, Dieter Simader wrote:
> 
> > On Fri, 6 Jun 2008, Ed W wrote:
> >
> >> C. Duncan Hudson wrote:
> >>> What kind of trends are you looking for?  For sales analysis I  
> >>> wrote a
> >>> little Perl script that is cron'd to run on the 5th day of each  
> >>> month
> >>> (gives me a couple of days to fix any month end issues).  The script
> >>> summarizes each sales person's sales and receivables for the  
> >>> month.  It
> >>> also provides a delta of the month over the previous month and  
> >>> the month
> >>> over the same month one year ago.  Finally, it builds a nice little
> >>> (electric company bill style) 13 month bar graph.  The script then
> >>> emails the personalized report to the salesperson and their manager.
> >>>
> >>> For inventory analysis I have a Perl script that  is cron'd  
> >>> hourly.  My
> >>> reorder points (minimum), and EOQ are recalculated each time the  
> >>> script
> >>> runs.  When ever any of the stocked items falls below their  
> >>> minimum an
> >>> email is fired off to the person who does the parts ordering.  The
> >>> script also does Pareto Analysis (ABC) and labels each item as such
> >>> along with its percentage of both sales and revenue.
> >>>
> >>
> >> Can we see the scripts?
> >>
> >> Ed W
> >
> > You are still here, why?
> >
> > http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?thread_name=484435EA. 
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Re: [SL] Trend analysis

[Jeff R. <je...@jr...>]

Ed
> but until 10 minutes ago restarting support 
> was a serious possibility. 
Give me a break! Do you have any idea how childish that sounds?

Are you going to take your ball $$ and go home?

You have 20K - 40K to spend on software but you're complaining on other 
lists about the SQL-Ledger then feigning hurt feelings when called on it?

Grow up!

Jeff Roberts

Ed W wrote:
> Dieter Simader wrote:
>   
>> On Fri, 6 Jun 2008, Ed W wrote:
>>
>>   
>> You are still here, why?
>>
>> http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?thread_name=484435EA.7000309%40wildgooses.com&forum_name=ledger-smb-devel
>>   
>>     
>
>
> I am on SL 2.6.27 (which I have "outgrown").  I am trying to decide 
> where to go next
>
> You have given me one more reason to reject continuing with SL - I need 
> to find a system with good backup and support and your comments often 
> "suggest" that I would not find it with SL - I get a strong sense that 
> you would be happy to take my money upfront, but not be particularly 
> forthcoming afterwards - please don't be insulted if you mean otherwise, 
> I am only voicing my concerns
>
> For those watching at home I have previously (ok, minorly) supported SL 
> to the tune of buying a single year of updates of "the manual".  I 
> lapsed for various reasons but until 10 minutes ago restarting support 
> was a serious possibility.  I have a total budget of around $20-40K for 
> all the changes I need made to get whatever solution I pick to the point 
> it works well for my needs.
>
> I get an increasingly strong sense that I'm not wanted by the SL 
> community though... 
>
> Good luck to you in any case - you have created a very compelling bit of 
> software and deserve to profit from it - I am personally distressed by 
> the serious problems I keep finding with it's adding up (fixable though 
> I'm sure, which is why I'm still here), however, it has a very good GUI 
> and a good feature set for many small businesses.  It's just a shame 
> that  you seem to chase away some of your customers...
>
>
> Regards
>
> Ed W
>
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Re: [SL] Trend analysis

[Dieter S. <dsi...@sq...>]

I asked a simple question and you hurle insults.

Is it so hard to provide a reasonable answer rather than you getting all 
uptight about feeling rejected.


On Fri, 6 Jun 2008, Ed W wrote:

> Dieter Simader wrote:
>> On Fri, 6 Jun 2008, Ed W wrote:
>>
>>
>> You are still here, why?
>>
>> http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?thread_name=484435EA.7000309%40wildgooses.com&forum_name=ledger-smb-devel
>>
>
>
> I am on SL 2.6.27 (which I have "outgrown").  I am trying to decide
> where to go next
>
> You have given me one more reason to reject continuing with SL - I need
> to find a system with good backup and support and your comments often
> "suggest" that I would not find it with SL - I get a strong sense that
> you would be happy to take my money upfront, but not be particularly
> forthcoming afterwards - please don't be insulted if you mean otherwise,
> I am only voicing my concerns
>
> For those watching at home I have previously (ok, minorly) supported SL
> to the tune of buying a single year of updates of "the manual".  I
> lapsed for various reasons but until 10 minutes ago restarting support
> was a serious possibility.  I have a total budget of around $20-40K for
> all the changes I need made to get whatever solution I pick to the point
> it works well for my needs.
>
> I get an increasingly strong sense that I'm not wanted by the SL
> community though...
>
> Good luck to you in any case - you have created a very compelling bit of
> software and deserve to profit from it - I am personally distressed by
> the serious problems I keep finding with it's adding up (fixable though
> I'm sure, which is why I'm still here), however, it has a very good GUI
> and a good feature set for many small businesses.  It's just a shame
> that  you seem to chase away some of your customers...
>
>
> Regards
>
> Ed W
>
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Re: [SL] Trend analysis

[Ed W <li...@wi...>]

Dieter Simader wrote:
> On Fri, 6 Jun 2008, Ed W wrote:
>
>   
> You are still here, why?
>
> http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?thread_name=484435EA.7000309%40wildgooses.com&forum_name=ledger-smb-devel
>   


I am on SL 2.6.27 (which I have "outgrown").  I am trying to decide 
where to go next

You have given me one more reason to reject continuing with SL - I need 
to find a system with good backup and support and your comments often 
"suggest" that I would not find it with SL - I get a strong sense that 
you would be happy to take my money upfront, but not be particularly 
forthcoming afterwards - please don't be insulted if you mean otherwise, 
I am only voicing my concerns

For those watching at home I have previously (ok, minorly) supported SL 
to the tune of buying a single year of updates of "the manual".  I 
lapsed for various reasons but until 10 minutes ago restarting support 
was a serious possibility.  I have a total budget of around $20-40K for 
all the changes I need made to get whatever solution I pick to the point 
it works well for my needs.

I get an increasingly strong sense that I'm not wanted by the SL 
community though... 

Good luck to you in any case - you have created a very compelling bit of 
software and deserve to profit from it - I am personally distressed by 
the serious problems I keep finding with it's adding up (fixable though 
I'm sure, which is why I'm still here), however, it has a very good GUI 
and a good feature set for many small businesses.  It's just a shame 
that  you seem to chase away some of your customers...


Regards

Ed W

Re: [SL] Trend analysis

[Michael H. <mh...@it...>]

Wow!
    I mean, just... wow!
    So I guess a lot of people are moving to LedgerSMB then?


Thanks,

Michael


On Jun 6, 2008, at 8:13 AM, Dieter Simader wrote:

> On Fri, 6 Jun 2008, Ed W wrote:
>
>> C. Duncan Hudson wrote:
>>> What kind of trends are you looking for?  For sales analysis I  
>>> wrote a
>>> little Perl script that is cron'd to run on the 5th day of each  
>>> month
>>> (gives me a couple of days to fix any month end issues).  The script
>>> summarizes each sales person's sales and receivables for the  
>>> month.  It
>>> also provides a delta of the month over the previous month and  
>>> the month
>>> over the same month one year ago.  Finally, it builds a nice little
>>> (electric company bill style) 13 month bar graph.  The script then
>>> emails the personalized report to the salesperson and their manager.
>>>
>>> For inventory analysis I have a Perl script that  is cron'd  
>>> hourly.  My
>>> reorder points (minimum), and EOQ are recalculated each time the  
>>> script
>>> runs.  When ever any of the stocked items falls below their  
>>> minimum an
>>> email is fired off to the person who does the parts ordering.  The
>>> script also does Pareto Analysis (ABC) and labels each item as such
>>> along with its percentage of both sales and revenue.
>>>
>>
>> Can we see the scripts?
>>
>> Ed W
>
> You are still here, why?
>
> http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?thread_name=484435EA. 
> 7000309%40wildgooses.com&forum_name=ledger-smb-devel
>
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Re: [SL] Trend analysis

[Dr E. W L. <el...@li...>]

Oinking from the boinking :-)-O

el


On Jun 6, 2008, at 16:13, Dieter Simader wrote:

> On Fri, 6 Jun 2008, Ed W wrote:
>
>> C. Duncan Hudson wrote:
>>> What kind of trends are you looking for?  For sales analysis I  
>>> wrote a
>>> little Perl script that is cron'd to run on the 5th day of each  
>>> month
>>> (gives me a couple of days to fix any month end issues).  The script
>>> summarizes each sales person's sales and receivables for the  
>>> month.  It
>>> also provides a delta of the month over the previous month and the  
>>> month
>>> over the same month one year ago.  Finally, it builds a nice little
>>> (electric company bill style) 13 month bar graph.  The script then
>>> emails the personalized report to the salesperson and their manager.
>>>
>>> For inventory analysis I have a Perl script that  is cron'd  
>>> hourly.  My
>>> reorder points (minimum), and EOQ are recalculated each time the  
>>> script
>>> runs.  When ever any of the stocked items falls below their  
>>> minimum an
>>> email is fired off to the person who does the parts ordering.  The
>>> script also does Pareto Analysis (ABC) and labels each item as such
>>> along with its percentage of both sales and revenue.
>>>
>>
>> Can we see the scripts?
>>
>> Ed W
>
> You are still here, why?
>
> http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?thread_name=484435EA.7000309%40wildgooses.com&forum_name=ledger-smb-devel
>
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Re: [SL] Trend analysis

[Dr E. W L. <el...@li...>]

Me three, please :-)-O

el

On Jun 4, 2008, at 03:29, C. Duncan Hudson wrote:

> What kind of trends are you looking for?  For sales analysis I wrote a
> little Perl script that is cron'd to run on the 5th day of each month
> (gives me a couple of days to fix any month end issues).  The script
> summarizes each sales person's sales and receivables for the month.   
> It
> also provides a delta of the month over the previous month and the  
> month
> over the same month one year ago.  Finally, it builds a nice little
> (electric company bill style) 13 month bar graph.  The script then
> emails the personalized report to the salesperson and their manager.
>
> For inventory analysis I have a Perl script that  is cron'd hourly.   
> My
> reorder points (minimum), and EOQ are recalculated each time the  
> script
> runs.  When ever any of the stocked items falls below their minimum an
> email is fired off to the person who does the parts ordering.  The
> script also does Pareto Analysis (ABC) and labels each item as such
> along with its percentage of both sales and revenue.
>
> Dunc
>
> Munroe Sollog wrote:
>> I am wondering how people perform trend analysis?
>>
>> I am looking to graph my AR and AP and different journals  etc...  It
>> looks like sql-ledger has some very standard reports built-in but is
>> there another tool that people use other than a spreadsheet?
>>
>>
>
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Re: [SL] Trend analysis

[Dieter S. <dsi...@sq...>]

On Fri, 6 Jun 2008, Ed W wrote:

> C. Duncan Hudson wrote:
>> What kind of trends are you looking for?  For sales analysis I wrote a
>> little Perl script that is cron'd to run on the 5th day of each month
>> (gives me a couple of days to fix any month end issues).  The script
>> summarizes each sales person's sales and receivables for the month.  It
>> also provides a delta of the month over the previous month and the month
>> over the same month one year ago.  Finally, it builds a nice little
>> (electric company bill style) 13 month bar graph.  The script then
>> emails the personalized report to the salesperson and their manager.
>>
>> For inventory analysis I have a Perl script that  is cron'd hourly.  My
>> reorder points (minimum), and EOQ are recalculated each time the script
>> runs.  When ever any of the stocked items falls below their minimum an
>> email is fired off to the person who does the parts ordering.  The
>> script also does Pareto Analysis (ABC) and labels each item as such
>> along with its percentage of both sales and revenue.
>>
>
> Can we see the scripts?
>
> Ed W

You are still here, why?

http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?thread_name=484435EA.7000309%40wildgooses.com&forum_name=ledger-smb-devel

Re: [SL] Trend analysis

[Ed W <li...@wi...>]

C. Duncan Hudson wrote:
> What kind of trends are you looking for?  For sales analysis I wrote a 
> little Perl script that is cron'd to run on the 5th day of each month 
> (gives me a couple of days to fix any month end issues).  The script 
> summarizes each sales person's sales and receivables for the month.  It 
> also provides a delta of the month over the previous month and the month 
> over the same month one year ago.  Finally, it builds a nice little 
> (electric company bill style) 13 month bar graph.  The script then 
> emails the personalized report to the salesperson and their manager.
>
> For inventory analysis I have a Perl script that  is cron'd hourly.  My 
> reorder points (minimum), and EOQ are recalculated each time the script 
> runs.  When ever any of the stocked items falls below their minimum an 
> email is fired off to the person who does the parts ordering.  The 
> script also does Pareto Analysis (ABC) and labels each item as such 
> along with its percentage of both sales and revenue.
>   

Can we see the scripts?

Ed W

Re: [SL] Trend analysis

[David J <ja...@in...>]

Duncan
I've been thinking of preparing some end-of-month reports to
run automagically by cronjob, and email to
owner/manager/administrator.
Is it possible to somehow get any existing SQL-L reports
sent this way, or will my custom perl script need to dig
(and format) its own data directly from the SQL-L database ?
We've previously used some perl scripts to insert data into
SQL-L, but can't see any way to capture SQL-L output for ->
email.
Cheers
DJ


> What kind of trends are you looking for?  For sales
> analysis I wrote a  little Perl script that is cron'd to
> run on the 5th day of each month  (gives me a couple of
> days to fix any month end issues).  The script  summarizes
> each sales person's sales and receivables for the month. 
> It  also provides a delta of the month over the previous
> month and the month  over the same month one year ago. 
> Finally, it builds a nice little  (electric company bill
> style) 13 month bar graph.  The script then  emails the
> personalized report to the salesperson and their manager.
> 
> Dunc
>

Re: [SL] Trend analysis

[C. D. H. <du...@du...>]

What kind of trends are you looking for?  For sales analysis I wrote a 
little Perl script that is cron'd to run on the 5th day of each month 
(gives me a couple of days to fix any month end issues).  The script 
summarizes each sales person's sales and receivables for the month.  It 
also provides a delta of the month over the previous month and the month 
over the same month one year ago.  Finally, it builds a nice little 
(electric company bill style) 13 month bar graph.  The script then 
emails the personalized report to the salesperson and their manager.

For inventory analysis I have a Perl script that  is cron'd hourly.  My 
reorder points (minimum), and EOQ are recalculated each time the script 
runs.  When ever any of the stocked items falls below their minimum an 
email is fired off to the person who does the parts ordering.  The 
script also does Pareto Analysis (ABC) and labels each item as such 
along with its percentage of both sales and revenue.

Dunc

Munroe Sollog wrote:
> I am wondering how people perform trend analysis?
>
> I am looking to graph my AR and AP and different journals  etc...  It
> looks like sql-ledger has some very standard reports built-in but is
> there another tool that people use other than a spreadsheet?
>
>   

Re: [SL] Receipt Printers

[C. D. H. <du...@du...>]

We don't print receipts, but we do use printers that would work for 
you.  We have pick slips print directly to Zebra label printers.  
They're all thermal printers, you can print to either labels or thermal 
paper (receipts), and they have cups drivers.

Dunc

George Osvald wrote:
> On Saturday 31 May 2008, Andrew @ ATM Logic wrote:
>   
>> I am also wondering, I have a few serial recipt printers I would love to
>> try.  Mine are "ITHACA SERIES 90 RECEIPT PRINTERS ITH-93S"
>>     
>
> All you need to do is to set up the reciept printer for your operating system 
> and then adjust the receipt tremplate for optimal nuber of lines. I am using 
> DYMO thermal label writer without a problem on Linux. It is really cheap and 
> it runs perfectly.
>
>   
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>>> Behalf Of Michael Anderson
>>> Sent: Monday, May 26, 2008 7:19 PM
>>> To: SQL-Ledger
>>> Subject: [SL] Receipt Printers
>>>
>>> I see that SQL-Ledger will be supporting receipt printers.
>>> Does anyone know what models are supported?  I'm trying to
>>> get a handle on overall costs so that I can budget for both
>>> the till and getting the support for SQL-Ledger.
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Re: [SL] Receipt Printers

[George O. <geo...@ya...>]

On Monday 02 June 2008, Michael Hasse wrote:
> Virtually all label printers are compatible with the old ESC command
> set, which means they'll work under Linux as a "generic" printer even
> if there isn't a specific driver available.
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Michael
>
> On Jun 1, 2008, at 12:46 PM, Jeff Kowalczyk wrote:
> > --- George Osvald <geo...@ya...> wrote:
> >> I am using DYMO thermal label writer without a problem on Linux.
> >> It is really cheap and it runs perfectly.
> >
> > George, which DYMO thermal printer model(s) have you used and/or
> > know to be
> > compatible with Linux?

I will not be in my office for a week but I am pretty sure it is DYMO 
LABELWRITER SE300. It is a thermal printer so it requires no meintenance at 
all. It has been working for 3 years without a problem.

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