Re: [SL] Swedish SQL-ledger 2.6.20, To buy a computer: no right account number

[Roy P <or...@sh...>]

Apology in advance to the list... I don't think this is a forum for this ty=
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of discussion, but since Chris sent his comment to the list.. i sent this=20
reply in defence.

All further replies will be offlist.

On Sunday 26 November 2006 10:33, you wrote:
> On 11/26/06, Roy P <or...@sh...> wrote:
> > Here in Canada I was  taught Quebec French in school. The problem is,
> > it's not real French so it's not as useful. Due to lack of use... I can
> > barely remember the basics. Now I usually just say.. Je ne comprend pas=
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> > :(
>
>   First of all, if your school was worth attending at all, you were
> likely taught 'Fran=C3=A7ais International' (international French), which
> is more or less the French spoken by diplomats and business folks when
> they are talking to people from many nationalities. I grew up and
> still live in Quebec and this was the French I was taught (public
> school K-11).

I guess it depends on when you went to school and which school you went to.
I graduated from public high school in 1980 in Manitoba and the pronunciati=
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we learned is the Quebecois dialect.

>   Secondly, Quebec French is just as 'real' as Canadian English, or
> American English or UK English. To say otherwise is really an insult
> to Quebecois. While I don't think you intended this as an insult, the
> notion in Canada that Quebecois speak some lower form of their
> language is a sign of some of the prejudices in certain parts of the
> country.

On the contrary...
Quebecois French IS a lower form of French, just like Acadian French is.
The same as the English dialect as spoken in Liverpool, commonly reffered t=
o=20
as "scouse", is a lower form of English.

"How Ya'll Doin' ?","Yo Yo wassup homie ?", and "Stay where yer at, I'll co=
me=20
where yer to" may be forms of english... but they are not common english,=20
they are regional and cultural dialects.

If you ever take a German language course, you will hear the terms "Low=20
German" and "High German".  In today's definition of the term, "High German=
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is the official language of Germany as taught in german schools, used in=20
german media and shown in the official dictionary.
Low German encompasses the regional dialects that are not High German.
=46or example, in southern Manitoba communities with a Mennonnite history, =
you=20
will hear a German dialect referred to as "Plautdietsch"

Every language has a lower form (dialect).=20
That's not to say it's any less valid LOCALLY as a language.=20
The issue comes down to widespread usability.

Learning the Liverpool English "Scouse" dialect is great if you want to spe=
ak=20
to someone from Liverpool, but you would have a horrible time being=20
understood in any other English speaking region.

Learning "Plautdietsch" would be pointless if you want to listen to German=
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radio or speak to the majority of Germans.

It would also be pointless to learn Quebecois French (Which I in fact learn=
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in school, here in 2nd largest French speaking community in Canada), if I=20
wanted to be easily understood in France or other parts of the world.

Learning the high level version of any language will assist in communicatin=
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with the vast majority of others, including those who use lower dialects,=20
because the lower dialect  is derived from the higher language.

> It's divisive and insulting to all Canadians. It also makes
> it much harder for English Quebecers like myself as we have to live
> with these tensions on a regular basis. So, please don't refer to it
> as 'non-real' or a lower form of French. Thanks.

Quite simply...
Quebecois French is a dialect of French.
Dialects are not the preferred form to use when trying to communicate to a=
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majority of people.
I don't understand how stating that fact is divisive or insulting.

Regards,
Roy0