From: Christopher M. <chr...@gm...> - 2006-09-10 06:25:55
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George, your rant is silly. On 9/9/06, GeorgeOsvald <geo...@ya...> wrote: > Because you are abusing this list to promote your product. Do you see anyone > here promoting MYOB or Quickbooks? That is what you're doing. That's funny, I've never used MYOB or Quickbooks. > How can Dieter possibly benefit from that? Honestly, I'm not very interested in what Dieter can benefit from. I am far more interested in what users can benefit from. I also believe that if more users benefit from it, this will benefit Dieter and developers. Look around you, do a google search for open source accounting projects. There aren't a lot of products like SQL-Ledger... yet. However there are a lot that are getting very close and they are far slicker, html from this century even, have more developers and offer way more features (like payroll, EDI, integration with groupware suites, etc.). The only thing that most of them lack is maturity/stability which will come over time. If the development of SQL-Ledger does not pick up in a *serious* way, it will be gone. One person does not stand a chance against the teams that are developing these products. SQL-Ledger needs fixing. Dieter has done well to take it to this point, but he needs to realize that he can't do it alone. The code has structural problems, the security isn't even an after-thought - it's non-existent, the schema is not using any features of a modern RDMS and allows for data corruption, the output is non-standard compliant, etc.. We (as in everyone here) can fix this. We (as in the folks working on LedgerSMB) will fix this. Dieter can take any/all of what we do and benefit from the work of many instead of doing it all by himself. His clients and users will benefit too. Dieter is more than welcome to join on the development of LedgerSMB, the only thing he would have to give up is having to do all the work. Dieter is also welcome to take anything he wants from LedgerSMB and incorporate it into SQL-Ledger. How does this damage him exactly? > You obviously do not have anyone interested in "YOUR" software otherwise you > would be preaching to them. You're welcome to join our mailing lists and find out that you're wrong. >Your fork might > resolve one problem though. Some time ago I suggested to Dieter that he > should have two mail lists. One for paying customers and another one for non > payers. You show that you don't understand the benefits of open source. The benefit is in numbers and in community. Not only in a community of users, but in a community of developers and people providing feedback. Close that off and you might as well be selling binaries. > Your spoon (sorry fork) can serve that purpose. That's just silly, was that supposed to be a joke or a pun? > And please do not > pretend to be mighty good doer ooooh blessed one. > Everybody here knows you only do this for one reason and that is profit. I'm doing this as a last resort because my clients needed some software that worked and was secure. I was willing to put my work into SQL-Ledger, I offered Dieter my help and I had also planned on paying $900 for developer support. It became very clear that this wasn't going to happen and my only choice was a fork. This is the best option for my clients, and in that case I will profit because I will be providing them with what they need. However, I would much rather be a contributor in a large group than do it by myself. Fortunately, LedgerSMB is already a large group of developers compared to SQL-Ledger. So, again, this fork is beneficial to me, to my clients and to the other developers. > However I do not like > people who pretend they want only to help others while they only try to help > their own wallets. (like for example US government) I'm not sure why you're bringing this sort of politics into this, unless you're trying to insult Americans. Maybe you think I am one? I'm not btw, nor should that matter. This does not have to be a us VS them issue, but you seem to insist on making it that, which is a real shame. Cheers, Chris |