Thread: Re: [sprog-users] Sprog Help Please!
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From: Grant M. <gr...@mc...> - 2006-03-06 22:09:20
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On Mon, 2006-03-06 at 18:03 +0000, Mark A. Smith wrote: > Hi, Hi Mark If you want to send messages to the sprog-users list, then you really need to subscribe to it - otherwise your message has to be manually approved by a moderator and you may not see replies. > I'm a novice Linux user and have been trying to get Sprog (which looks > like a fantastic app) to work on Centos Enterprise v4.2 (Intel xeon > smp 2gh/512mb - centos full install) - with no luck - I'm primarily a Debian user, so I can't offer specific advice about Centos. Did you try installing the RPM from the SourceForge site? http://sprog.sourceforge.net/install/index.html#rpm > I know there are component libraries which need to be installed such > as... > > > GTK+ libraries > libgnomecanvas* > libglade > Perl - preferably version 5.8, along with the following CPAN modules: > * Gtk2 Perl bindings > * Gnome2::Canvas* > * Gtk2::GladeXML > * Class::Accessor Actually, Class::Accessor is no longer needed. I'll update the web page. > * YAML > * Pod::Simple This is the list of packages from Gavin's RPM spec file: perl perl-Gtk2 perl-Gtk2-GladeXML perl-Gnome2-Canvas perl-YAML perl-Pod-Simple Are these available as RPMs from the standard Centos repository? You definitely don't want to be trying to install the Gtk, Glade and GnomeCanvas modules direct from the CPAN source tarballs - that would require having a bunch of development packages installed and even then significant knowledge will be required. > When I try to install these I get missing package dependencies and > when I install the missing components they are not found by Sprog or > other dependant components. That tends to suggest that the installation failed. However, without seeing the messages produced during the installation I can only guess. > I've also been trying to find rpm files where poss. (to satisfy the > dependencies and have been using fedora core 4 rpms as I cant find the > rpms for centos) but when I download a component package in tgz format > I unpack and install them using the 'default' install method... > > ./configure > make > make install That would really be the hard way. It would also not be the right way for CPAN tarballs. This sort of problem is the reason I moved from RedHat to Debian. In Debian, it really is as simple as adding the Sprog repository into the package manager and selecting the libsprog-perl package for installation. You can even do it all by pointing and clicking if you use the Synaptic package manager. I know that doesn't help solve your current problem - but after people told me a few times I eventually tried it and haven't looked back. Note, when I say Debian, I'm including Ubuntu - that's what I run on my development system. The Ubuntu live CD is a painless way to evaluate it. Regards Grant |
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From: Gavin B. <gav...@uk...> - 2006-03-07 09:55:51
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> perl > perl-Gtk2 > perl-Gtk2-GladeXML > perl-Gnome2-Canvas > perl-YAML > perl-Pod-Simple > > Are these available as RPMs from the standard Centos repository? I just checked Centos and Centosplus, and they aren't in there. The RPMForge repository has RHEL packages for the YAML and POD modules, perl-Gtk2 and perl-Gnome2-Canvas, but not perl-Gtk2-GladeXML. My approach to Perl modules is to use cpan2rpm to build them from source - it doesn't yet follow the dependency chain but it makes installing Perl modules as RPMs a lot simpler. > This sort of problem is the reason I moved from RedHat to Debian. In > Debian, it really is as simple as adding the Sprog repository into the > package manager and selecting the libsprog-perl package for > installation. I hear you - it's a pain. There's no technical reason, it's just politics as far as I can tell. Various repositories refuse to be compatible with each other. Gavin. -- Gavin Brown http://jodrell.net/ |
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From: Gavin H. <gh...@fe...> - 2006-03-14 08:36:20
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On Tue, 07 Mar 2006 11:09:08 +1300, Grant McLean wrote > On Mon, 2006-03-06 at 18:03 +0000, Mark A. Smith wrote: > > Hi, > > Hi Mark > > If you want to send messages to the sprog-users list, then you really > need to subscribe to it - otherwise your message has to be manually > approved by a moderator and you may not see replies. > > > I'm a novice Linux user and have been trying to get Sprog (which looks > > like a fantastic app) to work on Centos Enterprise v4.2 (Intel xeon > > smp 2gh/512mb - centos full install) - with no luck - > > I'm primarily a Debian user, so I can't offer specific advice about > Centos. > > Did you try installing the RPM from the SourceForge site? > > http://sprog.sourceforge.net/install/index.html#rpm > > > I know there are component libraries which need to be installed such > > as... > > > > > > GTK+ libraries > > libgnomecanvas* > > libglade > > Perl - preferably version 5.8, along with the following CPAN modules: > > * Gtk2 Perl bindings > > * Gnome2::Canvas* > > * Gtk2::GladeXML > > * Class::Accessor > > Actually, Class::Accessor is no longer needed. I'll update the web > page. > > > * YAML > > * Pod::Simple > > This is the list of packages from Gavin's RPM spec file: > > perl > perl-Gtk2 > perl-Gtk2-GladeXML > perl-Gnome2-Canvas > perl-YAML > perl-Pod-Simple > > Are these available as RPMs from the standard Centos repository? I wouldn't have thought so. These are all now in Fedora Extras, as of a few weeks ago. You also need perl-Imager too. > > You definitely don't want to be trying to install the Gtk, Glade and > GnomeCanvas modules direct from the CPAN source tarballs - that would > require having a bunch of development packages installed and even > then significant knowledge will be required. > > > When I try to install these I get missing package dependencies and > > when I install the missing components they are not found by Sprog or > > other dependant components. > > That tends to suggest that the installation failed. However, without > seeing the messages produced during the installation I can only guess. > > > I've also been trying to find rpm files where poss. (to satisfy the > > dependencies and have been using fedora core 4 rpms as I cant find the > > rpms for centos) but when I download a component package in tgz format > > I unpack and install them using the 'default' install method... > > > > ./configure > > make > > make install > > That would really be the hard way. It would also not be the right > way for CPAN tarballs. > > This sort of problem is the reason I moved from RedHat to Debian. In > Debian, it really is as simple as adding the Sprog repository into > the package manager and selecting the libsprog-perl package for > installation. You can even do it all by pointing and clicking if > you use the Synaptic package manager. I know that doesn't help > solve your current problem - but after people told me a few times I eventually > tried it and haven't looked back. Note, when I say Debian, I'm > including Ubuntu - that's what I run on my development system. The > Ubuntu live CD is a painless way to evaluate it. > > Regards > Grant > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by xPML, a groundbreaking scripting language > that extends applications into web and mobile media. Attend the live > webcast and join the prime developer group breaking into this new > coding territory! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=110944&bid=241720&dat=121642 > _______________________________________________ > sprog-users mailing list > spr...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/sprog-users -- Kind Regards, Gavin Henry, Editorial Staff. FedoraNEWS.ORG (http://FedoraNEWS.ORG) |
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