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From: Lieven D. <ld...@sc...> - 2008-03-05 12:20:38
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Hi everybody, Since Spring RCP is heading for it's first release, perhaps it's time to change the way the site looks too. Granted, the current look resembles the look of the Spring Framework site, but let's face it, that site isn't going to win any beauty contests. Therefor I created a maven skin for the current site that looks a bit more modern and keeps the following in mind: - sites should be totally viewable on 1024x768 screens, the current site is not (screenshots in the pages result in a larger page) - sites should not stretch horizontally (see SpringSource site) - clear visual signs for links that take you outside the website There still is some work to be done on the skin (the powered-by icons are gone and other bugs). I haven't gotten around to uploading a sample (my ftp isn't working correctly), but I did post a screenshot on my Picasa site: http://picasaweb.google.nl/doclolieven/SpringRCP Tell me what you think. I'll put up a sample site ASAP. The website is the postersign for RCP, the first thing people see, and a modern site helps with the image of the product. The current site... well, let's just say there's room for improvement, shall we :). Grtz, Lieven |
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From: Lieven D. <ld...@sc...> - 2008-03-06 09:39:16
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I managed to put up part of the site online, just to give you an idea: http://www.doclo.be/spring/ Yes, I know there are still bugs, but they'll be fixed ASAP :). Greetz, Lieven Lieven Doclo schreef: > Hi everybody, > > Since Spring RCP is heading for it's first release, perhaps it's time to > change the way the site looks too. > Granted, the current look resembles the look of the Spring Framework > site, but let's face it, that site isn't going to win any beauty contests. > Therefor I created a maven skin for the current site that looks a bit > more modern and keeps the following in mind: > - sites should be totally viewable on 1024x768 screens, the current site > is not (screenshots in the pages result in a larger page) > - sites should not stretch horizontally (see SpringSource site) > - clear visual signs for links that take you outside the website > > There still is some work to be done on the skin (the powered-by icons > are gone and other bugs). I haven't gotten around to uploading a sample > (my ftp isn't working correctly), but I did post a screenshot on my > Picasa site: > > http://picasaweb.google.nl/doclolieven/SpringRCP > > Tell me what you think. I'll put up a sample site ASAP. The website is > the postersign for RCP, the first thing people see, and a modern site > helps with the image of the product. The current site... well, let's > just say there's room for improvement, shall we :). > > Grtz, > > Lieven > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft > Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ |
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From: Peter De B. <pet...@gm...> - 2008-03-06 09:46:19
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looks great! regards, Peter On 3/6/08, Lieven Doclo <ld...@sc...> wrote: > > I managed to put up part of the site online, just to give you an idea: > > http://www.doclo.be/spring/ > > Yes, I know there are still bugs, but they'll be fixed ASAP :). > > Greetz, > > Lieven > > > Lieven Doclo schreef: > > > Hi everybody, > > > > Since Spring RCP is heading for it's first release, perhaps it's time to > > change the way the site looks too. > > Granted, the current look resembles the look of the Spring Framework > > site, but let's face it, that site isn't going to win any beauty > contests. > > Therefor I created a maven skin for the current site that looks a bit > > more modern and keeps the following in mind: > > - sites should be totally viewable on 1024x768 screens, the current site > > is not (screenshots in the pages result in a larger page) > > - sites should not stretch horizontally (see SpringSource site) > > - clear visual signs for links that take you outside the website > > > > There still is some work to be done on the skin (the powered-by icons > > are gone and other bugs). I haven't gotten around to uploading a sample > > (my ftp isn't working correctly), but I did post a screenshot on my > > Picasa site: > > > > http://picasaweb.google.nl/doclolieven/SpringRCP > > > > Tell me what you think. I'll put up a sample site ASAP. The website is > > the postersign for RCP, the first thing people see, and a modern site > > helps with the image of the product. The current site... well, let's > > just say there's room for improvement, shall we :). > > > > Grtz, > > > > Lieven > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft > > Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. > > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft > Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ > _______________________________________________ > Springframework-rcp-dev mailing list > Spr...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/springframework-rcp-dev > |
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From: Geoffrey De S. <ge0...@gm...> - 2008-03-06 10:01:47
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Looks great, but shouldn't this be fixed upstream? At the moment, we use the maven-spring-skin, just like all the other spring projects. http://www.mvnrepository.com/artifact/org.springframework.maven.skins/maven-spring-skin That skin could definitly be improved, for example with those changes. -0 as I don't think we should deviate from the general spring skin site convention. With kind regards, Geoffrey De Smet Peter De Bruycker schreef: > looks great! > > regards, > > Peter > > On 3/6/08, *Lieven Doclo* <ld...@sc... > <mailto:ld...@sc...>> wrote: > > I managed to put up part of the site online, just to give you an idea: > > http://www.doclo.be/spring/ > > Yes, I know there are still bugs, but they'll be fixed ASAP :). > > Greetz, > > Lieven > > > Lieven Doclo schreef: > > > Hi everybody, > > > > Since Spring RCP is heading for it's first release, perhaps it's > time to > > change the way the site looks too. > > Granted, the current look resembles the look of the Spring Framework > > site, but let's face it, that site isn't going to win any beauty > contests. > > Therefor I created a maven skin for the current site that looks a bit > > more modern and keeps the following in mind: > > - sites should be totally viewable on 1024x768 screens, the > current site > > is not (screenshots in the pages result in a larger page) > > - sites should not stretch horizontally (see SpringSource site) > > - clear visual signs for links that take you outside the website > > > > There still is some work to be done on the skin (the powered-by icons > > are gone and other bugs). I haven't gotten around to uploading a > sample > > (my ftp isn't working correctly), but I did post a screenshot on my > > Picasa site: > > > > http://picasaweb.google.nl/doclolieven/SpringRCP > > > > Tell me what you think. I'll put up a sample site ASAP. The > website is > > the postersign for RCP, the first thing people see, and a modern site > > helps with the image of the product. The current site... well, let's > > just say there's room for improvement, shall we :). > > > > Grtz, > > > > Lieven > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft > > Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. > > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft > Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ > _______________________________________________ > Springframework-rcp-dev mailing list > Spr...@li... > <mailto:Spr...@li...> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/springframework-rcp-dev > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft > Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Springframework-rcp-dev mailing list > Spr...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/springframework-rcp-dev |
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From: Lieven D. <ld...@sc...> - 2008-03-06 10:22:04
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Thanks Peter! @Geoffrey: Since almost none of the other spring projects are using maven to generate their site (I just checked, except for Acegi, of whom I think they're using Maven, and they're not using the "Spring" sking). I have a firm belief that a website is a 'make-or-break' thing when it comes to a product (especially a first launch). Someone new to RCP entering our current site isn't overwhelmed with a 'Nice!' feeling. The site is the ad for RCP, and bad ads don't sell products, even if the product is good. I have the same feeling about the main Spring site, but they can afford it so to speak. RCP, for it's first release, can't afford that. We need all the publicity we can get. When Spring RCP 1.0 is announced, a lot more people will come to the site. A that point, appearance does matter. But you're right about one thing, the main Spring site is in need for refurbishing... Greetz, Lieven Geoffrey De Smet schreef: > Looks great, but shouldn't this be fixed upstream? > At the moment, we use the maven-spring-skin, just like all the other > spring projects. > http://www.mvnrepository.com/artifact/org.springframework.maven.skins/maven-spring-skin > That skin could definitly be improved, for example with those changes. > > -0 as I don't think we should deviate from the general spring skin site > convention. > > With kind regards, > Geoffrey De Smet > > Peter De Bruycker schreef: >> looks great! >> >> regards, >> >> Peter >> >> On 3/6/08, *Lieven Doclo* <ld...@sc... >> <mailto:ld...@sc...>> wrote: >> >> I managed to put up part of the site online, just to give you an idea: >> >> http://www.doclo.be/spring/ >> >> Yes, I know there are still bugs, but they'll be fixed ASAP :). >> >> Greetz, >> >> Lieven >> >> >> Lieven Doclo schreef: >> >> > Hi everybody, >> > >> > Since Spring RCP is heading for it's first release, perhaps it's >> time to >> > change the way the site looks too. >> > Granted, the current look resembles the look of the Spring Framework >> > site, but let's face it, that site isn't going to win any beauty >> contests. >> > Therefor I created a maven skin for the current site that looks a bit >> > more modern and keeps the following in mind: >> > - sites should be totally viewable on 1024x768 screens, the >> current site >> > is not (screenshots in the pages result in a larger page) >> > - sites should not stretch horizontally (see SpringSource site) >> > - clear visual signs for links that take you outside the website >> > >> > There still is some work to be done on the skin (the powered-by icons >> > are gone and other bugs). I haven't gotten around to uploading a >> sample >> > (my ftp isn't working correctly), but I did post a screenshot on my >> > Picasa site: >> > >> > http://picasaweb.google.nl/doclolieven/SpringRCP >> > >> > Tell me what you think. I'll put up a sample site ASAP. The >> website is >> > the postersign for RCP, the first thing people see, and a modern site >> > helps with the image of the product. The current site... well, let's >> > just say there's room for improvement, shall we :). >> > >> > Grtz, >> > >> > Lieven >> > >> > >> > >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft >> > Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. >> > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft >> Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. >> http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ >> _______________________________________________ >> Springframework-rcp-dev mailing list >> Spr...@li... >> <mailto:Spr...@li...> >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/springframework-rcp-dev >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft >> Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. >> http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Springframework-rcp-dev mailing list >> Spr...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/springframework-rcp-dev > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft > Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ |
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From: Geoffrey De S. <ge0...@gm...> - 2008-03-06 11:10:24
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These use it too :) http://static.springframework.org/spring-batch/ http://static.springframework.org/spring-ws/site/ With kind regards, Geoffrey De Smet Lieven Doclo schreef: > Thanks Peter! > > @Geoffrey: > > Since almost none of the other spring projects are using maven to > generate their site (I just checked, except for Acegi, of whom I think > they're using Maven, and they're not using the "Spring" sking). > > I have a firm belief that a website is a 'make-or-break' thing when it > comes to a product (especially a first launch). Someone new to RCP > entering our current site isn't overwhelmed with a 'Nice!' feeling. The > site is the ad for RCP, and bad ads don't sell products, even if the > product is good. I have the same feeling about the main Spring site, but > they can afford it so to speak. RCP, for it's first release, can't > afford that. We need all the publicity we can get. > > When Spring RCP 1.0 is announced, a lot more people will come to the > site. A that point, appearance does matter. > > But you're right about one thing, the main Spring site is in need for > refurbishing... > > Greetz, > > Lieven > > Geoffrey De Smet schreef: >> Looks great, but shouldn't this be fixed upstream? >> At the moment, we use the maven-spring-skin, just like all the other >> spring projects. >> http://www.mvnrepository.com/artifact/org.springframework.maven.skins/maven-spring-skin >> That skin could definitly be improved, for example with those changes. >> >> -0 as I don't think we should deviate from the general spring skin site >> convention. >> >> With kind regards, >> Geoffrey De Smet >> >> Peter De Bruycker schreef: >>> looks great! >>> >>> regards, >>> >>> Peter >>> >>> On 3/6/08, *Lieven Doclo* <ld...@sc... >>> <mailto:ld...@sc...>> wrote: >>> >>> I managed to put up part of the site online, just to give you an idea: >>> >>> http://www.doclo.be/spring/ >>> >>> Yes, I know there are still bugs, but they'll be fixed ASAP :). >>> >>> Greetz, >>> >>> Lieven >>> >>> >>> Lieven Doclo schreef: >>> >>> > Hi everybody, >>> > >>> > Since Spring RCP is heading for it's first release, perhaps it's >>> time to >>> > change the way the site looks too. >>> > Granted, the current look resembles the look of the Spring Framework >>> > site, but let's face it, that site isn't going to win any beauty >>> contests. >>> > Therefor I created a maven skin for the current site that looks a bit >>> > more modern and keeps the following in mind: >>> > - sites should be totally viewable on 1024x768 screens, the >>> current site >>> > is not (screenshots in the pages result in a larger page) >>> > - sites should not stretch horizontally (see SpringSource site) >>> > - clear visual signs for links that take you outside the website >>> > >>> > There still is some work to be done on the skin (the powered-by icons >>> > are gone and other bugs). I haven't gotten around to uploading a >>> sample >>> > (my ftp isn't working correctly), but I did post a screenshot on my >>> > Picasa site: >>> > >>> > http://picasaweb.google.nl/doclolieven/SpringRCP >>> > >>> > Tell me what you think. I'll put up a sample site ASAP. The >>> website is >>> > the postersign for RCP, the first thing people see, and a modern site >>> > helps with the image of the product. The current site... well, let's >>> > just say there's room for improvement, shall we :). >>> > >>> > Grtz, >>> > >>> > Lieven >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft >>> > Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. >>> > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft >>> Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. >>> http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Springframework-rcp-dev mailing list >>> Spr...@li... >>> <mailto:Spr...@li...> >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/springframework-rcp-dev >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft >>> Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. >>> http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Springframework-rcp-dev mailing list >>> Spr...@li... >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/springframework-rcp-dev >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft >> Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. >> http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft > Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ |
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From: Lieven D. <ld...@sc...> - 2008-03-06 12:17:38
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Granted, you got me there, but even then there are differences: - top text is different font and alignment - spring-ws has powered-by icons, batch has none (this is a part of the skin, so I doubt if they use the same) - menu naming is completely different If you want, I can whip up a variant that uses the same colours as the current spring site. By the way, did you know 5% of the male population has problem seeing the colour green, and 1% percent can't see green at all? So a green skin is an overall bad idea... Grtz, :ldo: Geoffrey De Smet schreef: > These use it too :) > http://static.springframework.org/spring-batch/ > http://static.springframework.org/spring-ws/site/ > > With kind regards, > Geoffrey De Smet > > Lieven Doclo schreef: >> Thanks Peter! >> >> @Geoffrey: >> >> Since almost none of the other spring projects are using maven to >> generate their site (I just checked, except for Acegi, of whom I think >> they're using Maven, and they're not using the "Spring" sking). >> >> I have a firm belief that a website is a 'make-or-break' thing when it >> comes to a product (especially a first launch). Someone new to RCP >> entering our current site isn't overwhelmed with a 'Nice!' feeling. The >> site is the ad for RCP, and bad ads don't sell products, even if the >> product is good. I have the same feeling about the main Spring site, but >> they can afford it so to speak. RCP, for it's first release, can't >> afford that. We need all the publicity we can get. >> >> When Spring RCP 1.0 is announced, a lot more people will come to the >> site. A that point, appearance does matter. >> >> But you're right about one thing, the main Spring site is in need for >> refurbishing... >> >> Greetz, >> >> Lieven >> >> Geoffrey De Smet schreef: >>> Looks great, but shouldn't this be fixed upstream? >>> At the moment, we use the maven-spring-skin, just like all the other >>> spring projects. >>> http://www.mvnrepository.com/artifact/org.springframework.maven.skins/maven-spring-skin >>> That skin could definitly be improved, for example with those changes. >>> >>> -0 as I don't think we should deviate from the general spring skin site >>> convention. >>> >>> With kind regards, >>> Geoffrey De Smet >>> >>> Peter De Bruycker schreef: >>>> looks great! >>>> >>>> regards, >>>> >>>> Peter >>>> >>>> On 3/6/08, *Lieven Doclo* <ld...@sc... >>>> <mailto:ld...@sc...>> wrote: >>>> >>>> I managed to put up part of the site online, just to give you an idea: >>>> >>>> http://www.doclo.be/spring/ >>>> >>>> Yes, I know there are still bugs, but they'll be fixed ASAP :). >>>> >>>> Greetz, >>>> >>>> Lieven >>>> >>>> >>>> Lieven Doclo schreef: >>>> >>>> > Hi everybody, >>>> > >>>> > Since Spring RCP is heading for it's first release, perhaps it's >>>> time to >>>> > change the way the site looks too. >>>> > Granted, the current look resembles the look of the Spring Framework >>>> > site, but let's face it, that site isn't going to win any beauty >>>> contests. >>>> > Therefor I created a maven skin for the current site that looks a bit >>>> > more modern and keeps the following in mind: >>>> > - sites should be totally viewable on 1024x768 screens, the >>>> current site >>>> > is not (screenshots in the pages result in a larger page) >>>> > - sites should not stretch horizontally (see SpringSource site) >>>> > - clear visual signs for links that take you outside the website >>>> > >>>> > There still is some work to be done on the skin (the powered-by icons >>>> > are gone and other bugs). I haven't gotten around to uploading a >>>> sample >>>> > (my ftp isn't working correctly), but I did post a screenshot on my >>>> > Picasa site: >>>> > >>>> > http://picasaweb.google.nl/doclolieven/SpringRCP >>>> > >>>> > Tell me what you think. I'll put up a sample site ASAP. The >>>> website is >>>> > the postersign for RCP, the first thing people see, and a modern site >>>> > helps with the image of the product. The current site... well, let's >>>> > just say there's room for improvement, shall we :). >>>> > >>>> > Grtz, >>>> > >>>> > Lieven >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft >>>> > Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. >>>> > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft >>>> Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. >>>> http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Springframework-rcp-dev mailing list >>>> Spr...@li... >>>> <mailto:Spr...@li...> >>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/springframework-rcp-dev >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>> >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft >>>> Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. >>>> http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Springframework-rcp-dev mailing list >>>> Spr...@li... >>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/springframework-rcp-dev >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft >>> Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. >>> http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft >> Defy all challenges. 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