Thread: [Springframework-developer] CVS (again)

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the performance of CVS seems so awful I can't even get updates properly n=
ow
from the SSH servers.  Anyone else having difficulty?

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Darren Davison
Public Key: #DD356B0D

I always have problems with the CVS

Darren Davison wrote:

>the performance of CVS seems so awful I can't even get updates properly now
>from the SSH servers.  Anyone else having difficulty?
>
>  
>

On Tue, February 22, 2005 9:40, Rob Harrop said:
> I always have problems with the CVS
>
> Darren Davison wrote:
>
>>the performance of CVS seems so awful I can't even get updates properly=
 now
>>from the SSH servers.  Anyone else having difficulty?

at least we're not the only ones.  There are loads of recent support issu=
es
logged https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=3D1&atid=3D200001 - incl=
uding one
or two from frustrated users saying they're going to move from SF if they
don't fix it properly this time or provide subversion instead.

I've now got a completely borked local tree due to several failed updates=
 this
morning :(

--=20
Darren Davison
Public Key: #DD356B0D

>>>the performance of CVS seems so awful I can't even get updates properly 
>>>now
>>>from the SSH servers.  Anyone else having difficulty?

>> I always have problems with the CVS

> at least we're not the only ones.  There are loads of recent support 
> issues
> logged https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=1&atid=200001 - including 
> one
> or two from frustrated users saying they're going to move from SF if they
>don't fix it properly this time or provide subversion instead.

> I've now got a completely borked local tree due to several failed updates 
> this
> morning :(

How about moving to codehaus.org? :-)

Cheers,

Martin (Kersten) 

On Feb 22, 2005, at 4:00 AM, Martin Kersten wrote:

>>>> the performance of CVS seems so awful I can't even get updates 
>>>> properly now
>>>> from the SSH servers.  Anyone else having difficulty?
>
>>> I always have problems with the CVS
>
>> at least we're not the only ones.  There are loads of recent support 
>> issues
>> logged https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=1&atid=200001 - 
>> including one
>> or two from frustrated users saying they're going to move from SF if 
>> they
>> don't fix it properly this time or provide subversion instead.
>
>> I've now got a completely borked local tree due to several failed 
>> updates this
>> morning :(
>
> How about moving to codehaus.org? :-)

I've moved to java.net a while ago because of the CVS issues at SF.  
Haven't really had any issues since moving.  java.net does kinda suck 
though because you only get one module per project - unlike SF where 
you get your own CVSROOT.

Matt

>>>>> the performance of CVS seems so awful I can't even get updates 
>>>>> properly now
>>>>> from the SSH servers.  Anyone else having difficulty?
>>
>>>> I always have problems with the CVS
>>
>>> at least we're not the only ones.  There are loads of recent support 
>>> issues
>>> logged https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=1&atid=200001 - 
>>> including one
>>> or two from frustrated users saying they're going to move from SF if 
>>> they
>>> don't fix it properly this time or provide subversion instead.
>>
>>> I've now got a completely borked local tree due to several failed 
>>> updates this
>>> morning :(
>>
>> How about moving to codehaus.org? :-)
> 
> I've moved to java.net a while ago because of the CVS issues at SF.  
> Haven't really had any issues since moving.  java.net does kinda suck 
> though because you only get one module per project - unlike SF where 
> you get your own CVSROOT.

The codehaus people are great buddies. It isn't a huge site, quite
familiar. :-) And Spring would meet their special focus I guess but 
who cares? I guess the SF dudes are tackling this problem right now.
Maybe it is solved this week. I heared that they move some server
but I am not quite sure... .

Cheers, 

Martin (Kersten)

CVS issues at SourceForge.net have been going on for over 2 years.  
They come and go every few weeks.

I remember moving a project to java.net solely because of CVS issues at 
SF.

Cheers,
   Matthew

On Feb 22, 2005, at 12:09 PM, Martin Kersten wrote:

>>>>>> the performance of CVS seems so awful I can't even get updates 
>>>>>> properly now
>>>>>> from the SSH servers.  Anyone else having difficulty?
>>>
>>>>> I always have problems with the CVS
>>>
>>>> at least we're not the only ones.  There are loads of recent 
>>>> support issues
>>>> logged https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=1&atid=200001 - 
>>>> including one
>>>> or two from frustrated users saying they're going to move from SF 
>>>> if they
>>>> don't fix it properly this time or provide subversion instead.
>>>
>>>> I've now got a completely borked local tree due to several failed 
>>>> updates this
>>>> morning :(
>>>
>>> How about moving to codehaus.org? :-)
>> I've moved to java.net a while ago because of the CVS issues at SF.  
>> Haven't really had any issues since moving.  java.net does kinda suck 
>> though because you only get one module per project - unlike SF where 
>> you get your own CVSROOT.
>
> The codehaus people are great buddies. It isn't a huge site, quite
> familiar. :-) And Spring would meet their special focus I guess but 
> who cares? I guess the SF dudes are tackling this problem right now.
> Maybe it is solved this week. I heared that they move some server
> but I am not quite sure... .
>
>
> Cheers,
> Martin (Kersten)
>
>
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I have absolutely zero faith that SF is going to resolve their CVS 
issues any time soon. They started having problems almost 2 years ago, 
were going to resolve things with a bunch of server upgrades scheduled 
for summer '2003, and things never got any better. While to some extent 
I guess you can't complain about something you get for free, I think we 
certainly do have other options. I don't however like the UI of 
java.net, or the one module limitation of their CVS offering....

Matthew E.Porter wrote:

> CVS issues at SourceForge.net have been going on for over 2 years.  
> They come and go every few weeks.
>
> I remember moving a project to java.net solely because of CVS issues 
> at SF.
>
>
> Cheers,
>   Matthew
>
>
> On Feb 22, 2005, at 12:09 PM, Martin Kersten wrote:
>
>>>>>>> the performance of CVS seems so awful I can't even get updates 
>>>>>>> properly now
>>>>>>> from the SSH servers.  Anyone else having difficulty?
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>> I always have problems with the CVS
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> at least we're not the only ones.  There are loads of recent 
>>>>> support issues
>>>>> logged https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=1&atid=200001 - 
>>>>> including one
>>>>> or two from frustrated users saying they're going to move from SF 
>>>>> if they
>>>>> don't fix it properly this time or provide subversion instead.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> I've now got a completely borked local tree due to several failed 
>>>>> updates this
>>>>> morning :(
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> How about moving to codehaus.org? :-)
>>>
>>> I've moved to java.net a while ago because of the CVS issues at SF.  
>>> Haven't really had any issues since moving.  java.net does kinda 
>>> suck though because you only get one module per project - unlike SF 
>>> where you get your own CVSROOT.
>>
>>
>> The codehaus people are great buddies. It isn't a huge site, quite
>> familiar. :-) And Spring would meet their special focus I guess but 
>> who cares? I guess the SF dudes are tackling this problem right now.
>> Maybe it is solved this week. I heared that they move some server
>> but I am not quite sure... .
>>
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Martin (Kersten)
>>
>>
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java.net is abominable...
There should be awards for the Software with the Most Miserable UI.
Collab.net would give most IBM products a run for their money. It
seems specifically designed to make it impossible to find the simplest
thing.

Move to codehaus and get it over with - just need to get somone to invite you...

-Nick

On Tue, 22 Feb 2005 10:39:41 -0700, Matt Raible <li...@ra...> wrote:
> 
> On Feb 22, 2005, at 4:00 AM, Martin Kersten wrote:
> 
> >>>> the performance of CVS seems so awful I can't even get updates
> >>>> properly now
> >>>> from the SSH servers.  Anyone else having difficulty?
> >
> >>> I always have problems with the CVS
> >
> >> at least we're not the only ones.  There are loads of recent support
> >> issues
> >> logged https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=1&atid=200001 -
> >> including one
> >> or two from frustrated users saying they're going to move from SF if
> >> they
> >> don't fix it properly this time or provide subversion instead.
> >
> >> I've now got a completely borked local tree due to several failed
> >> updates this
> >> morning :(
> >
> > How about moving to codehaus.org? :-)
> 
> I've moved to java.net a while ago because of the CVS issues at SF.
> Haven't really had any issues since moving.  java.net does kinda suck
> though because you only get one module per project - unlike SF where
> you get your own CVSROOT.
> 
> Matt
> 
> 
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My update gets stuck at (after a few spaced attempts):
cvs update: [11:06:28] waiting for anoncvs_springframework's lock in 
/cvsroot/springframework/spring/autobuilds/apps/ejbtest/src/application/META-INF

Darren Davison wrote:
> On Tue, February 22, 2005 9:40, Rob Harrop said:
> 
>>I always have problems with the CVS
>>
>>Darren Davison wrote:
>>
>>
>>>the performance of CVS seems so awful I can't even get updates properly now
>>
>>>from the SSH servers.  Anyone else having difficulty?
> 
> 
> at least we're not the only ones.  There are loads of recent support issues
> logged https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=1&atid=200001 - including one
> or two from frustrated users saying they're going to move from SF if they
> don't fix it properly this time or provide subversion instead.
> 
> I've now got a completely borked local tree due to several failed updates this
> morning :(
> 

I sometimes wonder if sourceforge is headed toward failure (I've always 
wondered how they make enough revenue).  They seem to be giving off warning 
signs - reminds me of a failing hard drive - when you start to lose your 
sector remapping pool and hear an occasional click, it's time to get your 
replacement ready. :)

  - Andy

On Tuesday 22 February 2005 02:16 am, Darren Davison wrote:
>
> at least we're not the only ones.  There are loads of recent support issues
> logged https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=1&atid=200001 - including
> one or two from frustrated users saying they're going to move from SF if
> they don't fix it properly this time or provide subversion instead.
>
> I've now got a completely borked local tree due to several failed updates
> this morning :(

So, codehaus?

Colin Sampaleanu wrote:

> I have absolutely zero faith that SF is going to resolve their CVS 
> issues any time soon. They started having problems almost 2 years ago, 
> were going to resolve things with a bunch of server upgrades scheduled 
> for summer '2003, and things never got any better. While to some 
> extent I guess you can't complain about something you get for free, I 
> think we certainly do have other options. I don't however like the UI 
> of java.net, or the one module limitation of their CVS offering....
>
>
>
> Matthew E.Porter wrote:
>
>> CVS issues at SourceForge.net have been going on for over 2 years.  
>> They come and go every few weeks.
>>
>> I remember moving a project to java.net solely because of CVS issues 
>> at SF.
>>
>>
>> Cheers,
>>   Matthew
>>
>>
>> On Feb 22, 2005, at 12:09 PM, Martin Kersten wrote:
>>
>>>>>>>> the performance of CVS seems so awful I can't even get updates 
>>>>>>>> properly now
>>>>>>>> from the SSH servers.  Anyone else having difficulty?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>> I always have problems with the CVS
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> at least we're not the only ones.  There are loads of recent 
>>>>>> support issues
>>>>>> logged https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=1&atid=200001 - 
>>>>>> including one
>>>>>> or two from frustrated users saying they're going to move from SF 
>>>>>> if they
>>>>>> don't fix it properly this time or provide subversion instead.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> I've now got a completely borked local tree due to several failed 
>>>>>> updates this
>>>>>> morning :(
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> How about moving to codehaus.org? :-)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I've moved to java.net a while ago because of the CVS issues at 
>>>> SF.  Haven't really had any issues since moving.  java.net does 
>>>> kinda suck though because you only get one module per project - 
>>>> unlike SF where you get your own CVSROOT.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The codehaus people are great buddies. It isn't a huge site, quite
>>> familiar. :-) And Spring would meet their special focus I guess but 
>>> who cares? I guess the SF dudes are tackling this problem right now.
>>> Maybe it is solved this week. I heared that they move some server
>>> but I am not quite sure... .
>>>
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Martin (Kersten)
>>>
>>>
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>>
>>
>>
>>
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Chaps, I was just chatting with bob.

If you are interested in moving to codehaus, just drop him an email (I
expect its bob@codehaus) - he would be happy to help.

Cheers,
Nick

On Tue, 22 Feb 2005 21:09:27 -0500, Dmitriy Kopylenko
<dko...@ru...> wrote:
> So, codehaus?
> 
> Colin Sampaleanu wrote:
> 
> > I have absolutely zero faith that SF is going to resolve their CVS
> > issues any time soon. They started having problems almost 2 years ago,
> > were going to resolve things with a bunch of server upgrades scheduled
> > for summer '2003, and things never got any better. While to some
> > extent I guess you can't complain about something you get for free, I
> > think we certainly do have other options. I don't however like the UI
> > of java.net, or the one module limitation of their CVS offering....
> >
> >
> >
> > Matthew E.Porter wrote:
> >
> >> CVS issues at SourceForge.net have been going on for over 2 years.
> >> They come and go every few weeks.
> >>
> >> I remember moving a project to java.net solely because of CVS issues
> >> at SF.
> >>
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >>   Matthew
> >>
> >>
> >> On Feb 22, 2005, at 12:09 PM, Martin Kersten wrote:
> >>
> >>>>>>>> the performance of CVS seems so awful I can't even get updates
> >>>>>>>> properly now
> >>>>>>>> from the SSH servers.  Anyone else having difficulty?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>> I always have problems with the CVS
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> at least we're not the only ones.  There are loads of recent
> >>>>>> support issues
> >>>>>> logged https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=1&atid=200001 -
> >>>>>> including one
> >>>>>> or two from frustrated users saying they're going to move from SF
> >>>>>> if they
> >>>>>> don't fix it properly this time or provide subversion instead.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> I've now got a completely borked local tree due to several failed
> >>>>>> updates this
> >>>>>> morning :(
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> How about moving to codehaus.org? :-)
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> I've moved to java.net a while ago because of the CVS issues at
> >>>> SF.  Haven't really had any issues since moving.  java.net does
> >>>> kinda suck though because you only get one module per project -
> >>>> unlike SF where you get your own CVSROOT.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> The codehaus people are great buddies. It isn't a huge site, quite
> >>> familiar. :-) And Spring would meet their special focus I guess but
> >>> who cares? I guess the SF dudes are tackling this problem right now.
> >>> Maybe it is solved this week. I heared that they move some server
> >>> but I am not quite sure... .
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Cheers,
> >>> Martin (Kersten)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> -------------------------------------------------------
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> >>
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