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Re: [Springframework-rcp-dev] new skin for the website
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From: Lieven D. <ld...@sc...> - 2008-03-06 15:07:01
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You're totally right. I never disagreed with the fact that the Spring products' sites should look alike. I just don't agree with the current look. Spring Richclient is all about looks and at the moment, it looks way nicer than its website :). I did know 1.0 was going to be a quiet launch (although I don't believe a 1.0 release of a Spring-branded product will go unnoticed nor quiet). And people will be enticed to use Spring RC (at least I hope so, I know people who haven't been able to sell Spring RC to their management due to its 0.x status), even just to have a hint on what's coming with Spring Desktop. Spring RC's success (or, let's hope not, lack of) after its 1.0 release will felt by Spring Desktop. Just for that reason I'd want to revamp the site. You only get one chance at a first impression. Secondly, I really hope after the release, Spring RCP will go in a higher gear, community wise, including me. And again, the entry point for the community... is the website. I was fortunate to have the project lead as a colleague, but when you're trying to find out how RCP works by the website, it's a lot harder to learn and almost impossible to master. But it's great that you'll raise the issue further up the ladder. I appreciate it a lot. I use Spring RC daily, and try to promote it wherever and whenever I can. I am looking forward to October. Kind regards, - Lieven Doclo Java Developer @ Schaubroeck Jim Moore schreef: > Lieven, it does look nicer, and I agree about the importance of the look > of the website. Geoffrey's also right, though, that all the "Spring" > products really should look the same. To resolve that conflict, (and > the discrepancy in looks between projects) I'm raising the issue within > SpringSource about getting the "main" look updated as well. (As a > side-note, Acegi wasn't officially "Spring" which is why Spring doesn't > appear in the name and it doesn't use the Spring look. But when Spring > Security 2 is released, it will have the Spring look.) > > > For clarification: Spring Richclient 1.0 is going to be a "quiet > launch", just to get a stable version out there for the existing code > base. It's going straight into maintenance mode and is not meant to > entice new people to the platform. The big "marketing" push is meant > for Spring Desktop 1.0, which will be released with Spring 3.0 and a > number of other Spring products in October. > > > -Jim Moore > SpringSource Senior Consultant (and Spring Rich/Desktop liason) > > > -----Original Message----- > From: spr...@li... > [mailto:spr...@li...] On Behalf > Of Lieven Doclo > > Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2008 5:21 AM > To: spr...@li... > Subject: Re: [Springframework-rcp-dev] new skin for the website > > Thanks Peter! > > @Geoffrey: > > Since almost none of the other spring projects are using maven to > generate their site (I just checked, except for Acegi, of whom I think > they're using Maven, and they're not using the "Spring" sking). > > I have a firm belief that a website is a 'make-or-break' thing when it > comes to a product (especially a first launch). Someone new to RCP > entering our current site isn't overwhelmed with a 'Nice!' feeling. The > site is the ad for RCP, and bad ads don't sell products, even if the > product is good. I have the same feeling about the main Spring site, but > they can afford it so to speak. RCP, for it's first release, can't > afford that. We need all the publicity we can get. > > When Spring RCP 1.0 is announced, a lot more people will come to the > site. A that point, appearance does matter. > > But you're right about one thing, the main Spring site is in need for > refurbishing... > > Greetz, > > Lieven > > Geoffrey De Smet schreef: > > Looks great, but shouldn't this be fixed upstream? > > At the moment, we use the maven-spring-skin, just like all the other > > spring projects. > > > http://www.mvnrepository.com/artifact/org.springframework.maven.skins/maven-spring-skin > > > That skin could definitly be improved, for example with those changes. > > > > -0 as I don't think we should deviate from the general spring skin site > > convention. > > > > With kind regards, > > Geoffrey De Smet > > > > Peter De Bruycker schreef: > >> looks great! > >> > >> regards, > >> > >> Peter > >> > >> On 3/6/08, *Lieven Doclo* <ld...@sc... > >> <mailto:ld...@sc...>> wrote: > >> > >> I managed to put up part of the site online, just to give you an > idea: > >> > >> http://www.doclo.be/spring/ > >> > >> Yes, I know there are still bugs, but they'll be fixed ASAP :). > >> > >> Greetz, > >> > >> Lieven > >> > >> > >> Lieven Doclo schreef: > >> > >> > Hi everybody, > >> > > >> > Since Spring RCP is heading for it's first release, perhaps it's > >> time to > >> > change the way the site looks too. > >> > Granted, the current look resembles the look of the Spring > Framework > >> > site, but let's face it, that site isn't going to win any beauty > >> contests. > >> > Therefor I created a maven skin for the current site that > looks a bit > >> > more modern and keeps the following in mind: > >> > - sites should be totally viewable on 1024x768 screens, the > >> current site > >> > is not (screenshots in the pages result in a larger page) > >> > - sites should not stretch horizontally (see SpringSource site) > >> > - clear visual signs for links that take you outside the website > >> > > >> > There still is some work to be done on the skin (the > powered-by icons > >> > are gone and other bugs). I haven't gotten around to uploading a > >> sample > >> > (my ftp isn't working correctly), but I did post a screenshot > on my > >> > Picasa site: > >> > > >> > http://picasaweb.google.nl/doclolieven/SpringRCP > >> > > >> > Tell me what you think. I'll put up a sample site ASAP. The > >> website is > >> > the postersign for RCP, the first thing people see, and a > modern site > >> > helps with the image of the product. The current site... > well, let's > >> > just say there's room for improvement, shall we :). > >> > > >> > Grtz, > >> > > >> > Lieven > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft > >> > Defy all challenges. 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