[Sparrow-devel] Collaboration (was: Join Sparrow)

[Joel S. <jo...@ik...>]

On Fri, 2002-04-05 at 11:11, Andy Lewis wrote:
> AS far as collaboration, I see a couple of things here. Ideally there would
> be a single JDO implementation, and the object database is the backend
> instead of an O/R mapping tool. Should be quite doable. However, and that
> point I have to ask if the effort isn't really segmented into three parts:
> 
> JDO Implementation
> ObjectBridge O/R Storage
> Sparrow ODBMS Storage

There may be some additions to that, but in the simplistic sense, that's
generally the idea.

> And if so, how would that be managed?
> Done correctly, one, or at most two jars, and the "drop and go" capability
> should be achievable.

Right, it may involve multiple jars because of desirable modularity.

> While I completely support the open source effort, I found Kodo useful for
> evaluating how the JDO interface and so on actually works.

I'll see about taking a look at it. I was a little concerned about
legality. I was rather surprised by ObjectBridge mucking around the JDO
RI as I thought there would be legal concerns with that--maybe not. I'm
no lawyer. Licenses make things so complicated and confusing.

Forte has a built in JDO support I think with Pointbase or something
like that. I've glanced at how it works. It can work based on running in
a custom classloader--something we discussed on how to do the
enhancement seamlessly.

> The limited developer support would mean some possible recruiting efforts
> to get the manpower, but with a bit of project momentum, that should be
> managable. A lot of people want this.

Right. I think we need to show some significant progress before people
will be willing to jump on board and contribute. I think that's why it
stalled last year.

I have an appreciation for XP and though design is crucial, I think
getting something that compiles and does something is a critical
milestone that should be achieved as quickly as possible--which I had
until my hard drive crashed. Once that is reached (again), I think we'll
be able to start building momentum.
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