## Rep:Re: Rep:Re: Rep:Re: [Smartmontools-support]Strenge outpout

 Rep:Re: Rep:Re: Rep:Re: [Smartmontools-support]Strenge outpout From: Julian Vassaux - 2002-11-22 15:51:43 ```Ok Cheers, Julian -----Message d'origine----- De: Bruce Allen A: Julian Vassaux Date: 22/11/02 Objet: Re: Rep:Re: Rep:Re: [Smartmontools-support]Strenge ou= tpout Just to follow through.... The key thing here is to IGNORE the huge numbers like: 18446744073709551615 =3D 2^64-1 They are "un-normalized" raw values. In fact in hexidecimal= notation the number above is: FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF which just corresponds to "all bits set". I think I might m= odify smartctl to not print this value... let me think abou it. The thing to look at is the three numbers: 162 162 000 The first is the actual Attribute value (162) The second is the lowest (worst) value ever recorded (162) The third is the "fail" threshold (0). So if the first number drops to zero, this means that a Usag= e (old-age) attribute is failing. If the second number drops to zero, t= his means that it has failed in the past. Cheers, Bruce On Fri, 22 Nov 2002, Julian Vassaux wrote: > Sorry Bruce, I have no clue what it means, that's why I as= ked you ;-) > Julian >=20 > -----Message d'origine----- > De: Bruce Allen > A: Julian Vassaux > Date: 22/11/02 > Objet: Re: Rep:Re: [Smartmontools-support]Strenge outpout >=20 > Hi Julian, >=20 > > The strenge result is is the ststus variables : > > > 197 Current_Pending_Sector 0x0030 162 162 000 = Old_age =20 =20 >=20 > > > 18446744073709551615 > > > 198 Offline_Uncorrectable 0x0030 162 162 000 = Old_age =20 =20 >=20 > > > 18446744073709551615 > >=20 > > Seems like a signed vs unsigned number problem. >=20 > I think you mean "the strange result is in the RAW_VALUE". >=20 > In a sense you are correct. The problem is that the SMART= standard does > not specify how the manufacturer stores their "raw" smart = data. There > are > 6 bytes available. In many cases, the disk manufacturer s= tores an > integer > there - so unless we know better, that's how we print it (= yes, a 6-byte > integer). In a few cases I've been able to guess what the= 6 bytes are > when they are NOT an integer. For example for the tempera= ture attribute > IBM uses this field for three two-byte integers representi= ng > temperatures > (current, lifetime minimum and lifetime maximum). >=20 > If you can find out from the disk vendor how to interpret = the 6 bytes we > can do a better job of printing them... >=20 > Cheers, > Bruce >=20 >=20 > >=20 > > Julian > >=20 > > -----Message d'origine----- > > De: Bruce Allen > > A: Julian Vassaux > > Date: 21/11/02 > > Objet: Re: [Smartmontools-support]Strenge outpout > >=20 > > Hi Julian, > >=20 > > > On one of my hdd, a Seagate 20G (ATA 1) I'm having the= se very > strenge > > > results. > >=20 > > I'm confused. Are you talking about the output of smart= ctl from > below? > > It's an ATA-4 disk, and I don't see what's strange. > >=20 > > The drive is working fine and a self test says OK. The = others > > > HDD report errors as mentionned by the user having a r= aid array, > maybe > > > because I use them with a LVM (Logical Volume Manager)= ? > >=20 > > I'm sorry, I don't understand your question. > >=20 > > Bruce > >=20 > > > =3D=3D=3D START OF INFORMATION SECTION =3D=3D=3D > > > Device Model: ST320430A = =20 > > > Serial Number: 7BX078CE =20 > > > Firmware Version: 3.11 =20 > > > ATA Version is: 4 > > > ATA Standard is: Unrecognized. Minor revision code: 0= x00 > > > SMART support is: Available - device has SMART capabil= ity. > > > SMART support is: Enabled > > >=20 > > > =3D=3D=3D START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION =3D=3D=3D > > > SMART overall-health self-assessment test result: PASS= ED > > >=20 > > > General SMART Values: > > > Off-line data collection status: (0x02) Offline data c= ollection > > activity > > >=20 > > > completed with= out error. > > > Self-test execution status: ( 0) The previous s= elf-test > routine > > > completed > > > without error = or no > self-test > > > has ever=20 > > > been run. > > > Total time to complete off-line=20 > > > data collection: (2222) seconds. > > > Offline data collection > > > capabilities: (0x1b) SMART execute = Offline > > immediate. > > > Automatic time= r ON/OFF > > support. > > > Suspend Offlin= e collection > > upon > > > new > > > command. > > > Offline surfac= e scan > > supported. > > > Self-test supp= orted. > > > SMART capabilities: (0x0003) Saves SMART da= ta before > > entering > > > power-saving m= ode. > > > Supports SMART= auto save > > timer. > > > Error logging capability: (0x01) Error logging = supported. > > > Short self-test routine=20 > > > recommended polling time: ( 2) minutes. > > > Extended self-test routine=20 > > > recommended polling time: ( 27) minutes. > > >=20 > > > SMART Attributes Data Structure revision number: 10 > > > Vendor Specific SMART Attributes with Thresholds: > > > ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME FLAG VALUE WORST THRES= H TYPE =20 > > > WHEN_FAILED RAW_VALUE > > > 1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate 0x0008 072 068 000 = Old_age =20 =20 > - > > =20 > > > 69733223 > > > 3 Spin_Up_Time 0x0006 070 070 000 = Old_age =20 =20 > - > > =20 > > > 0 > > > 4 Start_Stop_Count 0x0013 100 100 020 = Pre-fail =20 =20 > - > > =20 > > > 962 > > > 5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct 0x0013 100 100 036 = Pre-fail =20 =20 > - > > =20 > > > 0 > > > 7 Seek_Error_Rate 0x000b 067 060 030 = Pre-fail =20 =20 > - > > =20 > > > 10958911 > > > 9 Power_On_Hours 0x0012 030 001 000 = Old_age =20 =20 > - > > =20 > > > 7346 > > > 10 Spin_Retry_Count 0x0013 100 100 097 = Pre-fail =20 =20 > - > > =20 > > > 0 > > > 12 Power_Cycle_Count 0x0013 099 099 020 = Pre-fail =20 =20 > - > > =20 > > > 1985 > > > 196 Reallocated_Event_Count 0x0012 100 100 000 = Old_age =20 =20 > - > > =20 > > > 0 > > > 197 Current_Pending_Sector 0x0030 162 162 000 = Old_age =20 =20 > - > > =20 > > > 18446744073709551615 > > > 198 Offline_Uncorrectable 0x0030 162 162 000 = Old_age =20 =20 > - > > =20 > > > 18446744073709551615 > > > 199 UDMA_CRC_Error_Count 0x000a 200 200 000 = Old_age =20 =20 > - > > =20 > > > 1 > > >=20 > > > SMART Error Log Version: 1 > > > No Errors Logged > > >=20 > > > SMART Self-test log, version number 1 > > > Num Test_Description Status Remai= ning=20 > > > LifeTime(hours) LBA_of_first_error > > > # 1 Extended off-line Completed = 00% =20 7344 > =20 > > =20 > > > =20 > > > # 2 Short off-line Completed = 00% =20 7343 > =20 > > =20 > > > =20 > > > # 3 Extended off-line Interrupted (host reset) = 90% =20 739 > =20 > > =20 > > > =20 > > > # 4 Short off-line Interrupted (host reset) = 90% =20 739 > =20 > > =20 > > > =20 > > > # 5 Extended off-line Interrupted (host reset) = 90% =20 739 > =20 > > =20 > > > =20 > > > # 6 Short off-line Interrupted (host reset) = 90% =20 739 > =20 > > =20 > > > =20 > > > # 7 Extended off-line Interrupted (host reset) = 90% =20 739 > =20 > > =20 > > > =20 > > > # 8 Short off-line Interrupted (host reset) = 90% =20 739 > =20 > > =20 > > > =20 > > > # 9 Short off-line Completed = 00% =20 697 > =20 > > =20 > > > =20 > > > #10 Unknown test Interrupted (host reset) = 150% =20 > 0=20 > > =20 > > > =20 > > > #11 Unknown test Aborted by host = 150% =20 > 0=20 > > =20 > > > =20 > > >=20 > > >=20 > > > __________________________________________________ > > > Modem offert : 150,92 euros rembours=E9s sur le Pack e= Xtense de > Wanadoo > > !=20 > > > Haut d=E9bit =E0 partir de 30 euros/mois : > http://www.ifrance.com/_reloc/w > > >=20 > > >=20 > > >=20 > > > ------------------------------------------------------= - > > > This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek > > > Welcome to geek heaven. > > > http://thinkgeek.com/sf > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Smartmontools-support mailing list > > > Smartmontools-support@... > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/smartmont= ools-support > > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > > __________________________________________________ > > Modem offert : 150,92 euros rembours=E9s sur le Pack eXt= ense de Wanadoo > !=20 > > Haut d=E9bit =E0 partir de 30 euros/mois : http://www.ifrance.com/_reloc/w > >=20 > >=20 > > __________________________________________________ > > Modem offert : 150,92 euros rembours=E9s sur le Pack eXt= ense de Wanadoo > !=20 > > Haut d=E9bit =E0 partir de 30 euros/mois : http://www.ifrance.com/_reloc/w > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek > > Welcome to geek heaven. > > http://thinkgeek.com/sf > > _______________________________________________ > > Smartmontools-support mailing list > > Smartmontools-support@... > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/smartmontoo= ls-support > >=20 >=20 >=20 > __________________________________________________ > Modem offert : 150,92 euros rembours=E9s sur le Pack eXten= se de Wanadoo !=20 > Haut d=E9bit =E0 partir de 30 euros/mois : http://www.ifra= nce.com/_reloc/w >=20 >=20 > __________________________________________________ > Modem offert : 150,92 euros rembours=E9s sur le Pack eXten= se de Wanadoo !=20 > Haut d=E9bit =E0 partir de 30 euros/mois : http://www.ifra= nce.com/_reloc/w >=20 >=20 >=20 > ------------------------------------------------------- > This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek > Welcome to geek heaven. > http://thinkgeek.com/sf > _______________________________________________ > Smartmontools-support mailing list > Smartmontools-support@... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/smartmontools= -support >=20 __________________________________________________ Modem offert : 150,92 euros rembours=E9s sur le Pack eXtense= de Wanadoo !=20 Haut d=E9bit =E0 partir de 30 euros/mois : http://www.ifranc= e.com/_reloc/w __________________________________________________ Modem offert : 150,92 euros rembours=E9s sur le Pack eXtense= de Wanadoo !=20 Haut d=E9bit =E0 partir de 30 euros/mois : http://www.ifranc= e.com/_reloc/w ```

 Rep:Re: Rep:Re: Rep:Re: [Smartmontools-support]Strenge outpout From: Julian Vassaux - 2002-11-22 15:51:43 ```Ok Cheers, Julian -----Message d'origine----- De: Bruce Allen A: Julian Vassaux Date: 22/11/02 Objet: Re: Rep:Re: Rep:Re: [Smartmontools-support]Strenge ou= tpout Just to follow through.... The key thing here is to IGNORE the huge numbers like: 18446744073709551615 =3D 2^64-1 They are "un-normalized" raw values. In fact in hexidecimal= notation the number above is: FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF which just corresponds to "all bits set". I think I might m= odify smartctl to not print this value... let me think abou it. The thing to look at is the three numbers: 162 162 000 The first is the actual Attribute value (162) The second is the lowest (worst) value ever recorded (162) The third is the "fail" threshold (0). So if the first number drops to zero, this means that a Usag= e (old-age) attribute is failing. If the second number drops to zero, t= his means that it has failed in the past. Cheers, Bruce On Fri, 22 Nov 2002, Julian Vassaux wrote: > Sorry Bruce, I have no clue what it means, that's why I as= ked you ;-) > Julian >=20 > -----Message d'origine----- > De: Bruce Allen > A: Julian Vassaux > Date: 22/11/02 > Objet: Re: Rep:Re: [Smartmontools-support]Strenge outpout >=20 > Hi Julian, >=20 > > The strenge result is is the ststus variables : > > > 197 Current_Pending_Sector 0x0030 162 162 000 = Old_age =20 =20 >=20 > > > 18446744073709551615 > > > 198 Offline_Uncorrectable 0x0030 162 162 000 = Old_age =20 =20 >=20 > > > 18446744073709551615 > >=20 > > Seems like a signed vs unsigned number problem. >=20 > I think you mean "the strange result is in the RAW_VALUE". >=20 > In a sense you are correct. The problem is that the SMART= standard does > not specify how the manufacturer stores their "raw" smart = data. There > are > 6 bytes available. In many cases, the disk manufacturer s= tores an > integer > there - so unless we know better, that's how we print it (= yes, a 6-byte > integer). In a few cases I've been able to guess what the= 6 bytes are > when they are NOT an integer. For example for the tempera= ture attribute > IBM uses this field for three two-byte integers representi= ng > temperatures > (current, lifetime minimum and lifetime maximum). >=20 > If you can find out from the disk vendor how to interpret = the 6 bytes we > can do a better job of printing them... >=20 > Cheers, > Bruce >=20 >=20 > >=20 > > Julian > >=20 > > -----Message d'origine----- > > De: Bruce Allen > > A: Julian Vassaux > > Date: 21/11/02 > > Objet: Re: [Smartmontools-support]Strenge outpout > >=20 > > Hi Julian, > >=20 > > > On one of my hdd, a Seagate 20G (ATA 1) I'm having the= se very > strenge > > > results. > >=20 > > I'm confused. Are you talking about the output of smart= ctl from > below? > > It's an ATA-4 disk, and I don't see what's strange. > >=20 > > The drive is working fine and a self test says OK. The = others > > > HDD report errors as mentionned by the user having a r= aid array, > maybe > > > because I use them with a LVM (Logical Volume Manager)= ? > >=20 > > I'm sorry, I don't understand your question. > >=20 > > Bruce > >=20 > > > =3D=3D=3D START OF INFORMATION SECTION =3D=3D=3D > > > Device Model: ST320430A = =20 > > > Serial Number: 7BX078CE =20 > > > Firmware Version: 3.11 =20 > > > ATA Version is: 4 > > > ATA Standard is: Unrecognized. Minor revision code: 0= x00 > > > SMART support is: Available - device has SMART capabil= ity. > > > SMART support is: Enabled > > >=20 > > > =3D=3D=3D START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION =3D=3D=3D > > > SMART overall-health self-assessment test result: PASS= ED > > >=20 > > > General SMART Values: > > > Off-line data collection status: (0x02) Offline data c= ollection > > activity > > >=20 > > > completed with= out error. > > > Self-test execution status: ( 0) The previous s= elf-test > routine > > > completed > > > without error = or no > self-test > > > has ever=20 > > > been run. > > > Total time to complete off-line=20 > > > data collection: (2222) seconds. > > > Offline data collection > > > capabilities: (0x1b) SMART execute = Offline > > immediate. > > > Automatic time= r ON/OFF > > support. > > > Suspend Offlin= e collection > > upon > > > new > > > command. > > > Offline surfac= e scan > > supported. > > > Self-test supp= orted. > > > SMART capabilities: (0x0003) Saves SMART da= ta before > > entering > > > power-saving m= ode. > > > Supports SMART= auto save > > timer. > > > Error logging capability: (0x01) Error logging = supported. > > > Short self-test routine=20 > > > recommended polling time: ( 2) minutes. > > > Extended self-test routine=20 > > > recommended polling time: ( 27) minutes. > > >=20 > > > SMART Attributes Data Structure revision number: 10 > > > Vendor Specific SMART Attributes with Thresholds: > > > ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME FLAG VALUE WORST THRES= H TYPE =20 > > > WHEN_FAILED RAW_VALUE > > > 1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate 0x0008 072 068 000 = Old_age =20 =20 > - > > =20 > > > 69733223 > > > 3 Spin_Up_Time 0x0006 070 070 000 = Old_age =20 =20 > - > > =20 > > > 0 > > > 4 Start_Stop_Count 0x0013 100 100 020 = Pre-fail =20 =20 > - > > =20 > > > 962 > > > 5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct 0x0013 100 100 036 = Pre-fail =20 =20 > - > > =20 > > > 0 > > > 7 Seek_Error_Rate 0x000b 067 060 030 = Pre-fail =20 =20 > - > > =20 > > > 10958911 > > > 9 Power_On_Hours 0x0012 030 001 000 = Old_age =20 =20 > - > > =20 > > > 7346 > > > 10 Spin_Retry_Count 0x0013 100 100 097 = Pre-fail =20 =20 > - > > =20 > > > 0 > > > 12 Power_Cycle_Count 0x0013 099 099 020 = Pre-fail =20 =20 > - > > =20 > > > 1985 > > > 196 Reallocated_Event_Count 0x0012 100 100 000 = Old_age =20 =20 > - > > =20 > > > 0 > > > 197 Current_Pending_Sector 0x0030 162 162 000 = Old_age =20 =20 > - > > =20 > > > 18446744073709551615 > > > 198 Offline_Uncorrectable 0x0030 162 162 000 = Old_age =20 =20 > - > > =20 > > > 18446744073709551615 > > > 199 UDMA_CRC_Error_Count 0x000a 200 200 000 = Old_age =20 =20 > - > > =20 > > > 1 > > >=20 > > > SMART Error Log Version: 1 > > > No Errors Logged > > >=20 > > > SMART Self-test log, version number 1 > > > Num Test_Description Status Remai= ning=20 > > > LifeTime(hours) LBA_of_first_error > > > # 1 Extended off-line Completed = 00% =20 7344 > =20 > > =20 > > > =20 > > > # 2 Short off-line Completed = 00% =20 7343 > =20 > > =20 > > > =20 > > > # 3 Extended off-line Interrupted (host reset) = 90% =20 739 > =20 > > =20 > > > =20 > > > # 4 Short off-line Interrupted (host reset) = 90% =20 739 > =20 > > =20 > > > =20 > > > # 5 Extended off-line Interrupted (host reset) = 90% =20 739 > =20 > > =20 > > > =20 > > > # 6 Short off-line Interrupted (host reset) = 90% =20 739 > =20 > > =20 > > > =20 > > > # 7 Extended off-line Interrupted (host reset) = 90% =20 739 > =20 > > =20 > > > =20 > > > # 8 Short off-line Interrupted (host reset) = 90% =20 739 > =20 > > =20 > > > =20 > > > # 9 Short off-line Completed = 00% =20 697 > =20 > > =20 > > > =20 > > > #10 Unknown test Interrupted (host reset) = 150% =20 > 0=20 > > =20 > > > =20 > > > #11 Unknown test Aborted by host = 150% =20 > 0=20 > > =20 > > > =20 > > >=20 > > >=20 > > > __________________________________________________ > > > Modem offert : 150,92 euros rembours=E9s sur le Pack e= Xtense de > Wanadoo > > !=20 > > > Haut d=E9bit =E0 partir de 30 euros/mois : > http://www.ifrance.com/_reloc/w > > >=20 > > >=20 > > >=20 > > > ------------------------------------------------------= - > > > This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek > > > Welcome to geek heaven. > > > http://thinkgeek.com/sf > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Smartmontools-support mailing list > > > Smartmontools-support@... > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/smartmont= ools-support > > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > > __________________________________________________ > > Modem offert : 150,92 euros rembours=E9s sur le Pack eXt= ense de Wanadoo > !=20 > > Haut d=E9bit =E0 partir de 30 euros/mois : http://www.ifrance.com/_reloc/w > >=20 > >=20 > > __________________________________________________ > > Modem offert : 150,92 euros rembours=E9s sur le Pack eXt= ense de Wanadoo > !=20 > > Haut d=E9bit =E0 partir de 30 euros/mois : http://www.ifrance.com/_reloc/w > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek > > Welcome to geek heaven. > > http://thinkgeek.com/sf > > _______________________________________________ > > Smartmontools-support mailing list > > Smartmontools-support@... > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/smartmontoo= ls-support > >=20 >=20 >=20 > __________________________________________________ > Modem offert : 150,92 euros rembours=E9s sur le Pack eXten= se de Wanadoo !=20 > Haut d=E9bit =E0 partir de 30 euros/mois : http://www.ifra= nce.com/_reloc/w >=20 >=20 > __________________________________________________ > Modem offert : 150,92 euros rembours=E9s sur le Pack eXten= se de Wanadoo !=20 > Haut d=E9bit =E0 partir de 30 euros/mois : http://www.ifra= nce.com/_reloc/w >=20 >=20 >=20 > ------------------------------------------------------- > This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek > Welcome to geek heaven. > http://thinkgeek.com/sf > _______________________________________________ > Smartmontools-support mailing list > Smartmontools-support@... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/smartmontools= -support >=20 __________________________________________________ Modem offert : 150,92 euros rembours=E9s sur le Pack eXtense= de Wanadoo !=20 Haut d=E9bit =E0 partir de 30 euros/mois : http://www.ifranc= e.com/_reloc/w __________________________________________________ Modem offert : 150,92 euros rembours=E9s sur le Pack eXtense= de Wanadoo !=20 Haut d=E9bit =E0 partir de 30 euros/mois : http://www.ifranc= e.com/_reloc/w ```