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From: youcef b. <ybi...@ya...> - 2006-01-23 22:56:27
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These are my answers given my knowledge of the product. > 1) Is there a way to view Autopsy log files from > within the Autopsy > interface? I can load up the log files in the > browser by going to > file->open, but is there any way from within the > actual interface to do it? No > 2) Are EnCase images supported at all? I can import > EnCase images into a > case, but none of the operations I attempt seem to > execute correctly. No. Autopsy (TSK in fact) supports raw image format. > 3) Can a SHA-1 hash be generated when an image is > imported. When I import > an image, I have the option of generating an MD5 > hash, but I don't see > SHA-1. You can use sha in TSK but it is no incorporated yet in Autopsy. > 4) Is there any way to limit searches to files with > certain extensions, or > to those in a particular directory? Not in autopsy. but you have all the tools in TSK to achieve this. unfortunatrely there is no automated way to do it. > 5) Should the regular expresssion: > 'special[:space:][0-9A-Za-z]*[:space:]access' (I > don't include the single > quotes when I enter it in the search box) match the > string "special test > access". I've tried that expression on an image > that I know contains that > string, but it doesn't return any matches. I've > ensured that the regular > expression box was checked on the search page, and > I've tried using > parenthesis. your search is vlaid for ASCII text. Make sure that your text is not in Unicode. > 6) Is it possible to generate reports at a higher > granularity than files. > That is, can a report be generated for a host or a > case that contains > information about multiple files? Can notes be > included in reports? Autopsy is still weak in the reporting side. it doesnt generate a decent report, but it does log all the investigator actions which could be inlcuded in the report. > 7) Is there any way to dissect and analyze the > messages/attachments within > an Outlook (.pst) or a Exchange (.edb) file, or can > they only be searched > for text? TSK and autopsy are file system analysis tool. Here your are touching on applicaiton analysis layer and you need to look for other specialsed tools that achieve it. Open source tools that I know of which can process pst files are readpst from the debian project. there is a good article in the forensicfocus which explains the usage of this tool and other ones related to email analysis. Regards Youcef ___________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Messenger - NEW crystal clear PC to PC calling worldwide with voicemail http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com |
From: Ryan P. <rpe...@mi...> - 2006-01-23 16:56:28
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Greetings, I have been using Sleuthkit for the last few months, and I have a few questions that I could not find the answers to in the manual, or in the mailing list archive. I aplogize in advance if these issues have already been addressed in previous posts, but the search function on the sourceforge archive page does not seem to be functioning. 1) Is there a way to view Autopsy log files from within the Autopsy interface? I can load up the log files in the browser by going to file->open, but is there any way from within the actual interface to do it? 2) Are EnCase images supported at all? I can import EnCase images into a case, but none of the operations I attempt seem to execute correctly. 3) Can a SHA-1 hash be generated when an image is imported. When I import an image, I have the option of generating an MD5 hash, but I don't see SHA-1. 4) Is there any way to limit searches to files with certain extensions, or to those in a particular directory? 5) Should the regular expresssion: 'special[:space:][0-9A-Za-z]*[:space:]access' (I don't include the single quotes when I enter it in the search box) match the string "special test access". I've tried that expression on an image that I know contains that string, but it doesn't return any matches. I've ensured that the regular expression box was checked on the search page, and I've tried using parenthesis. 6) Is it possible to generate reports at a higher granularity than files. That is, can a report be generated for a host or a case that contains information about multiple files? Can notes be included in reports? 7) Is there any way to dissect and analyze the messages/attachments within an Outlook (.pst) or a Exchange (.edb) file, or can they only be searched for text? Thank you for any answers you can provide, -Ryan -- Ryan Persaud rpe...@mi... 703-983-1275 The MITRE Corporation |
From: Paul S. <pa...@vn...> - 2006-01-19 04:21:09
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Thanks everyone! Paul farmer dude wrote: >Hi Paul, > >Linux doesn't access the last odd sector when >initializing file systems and so the article you read >probably indicated using Linux to acquire may leave >the last sector if the count is odd or similar. > >This is true for the 2.4 Linux kernel because the >block layer uses 1024 and a sector is 512, so it >cannot be accessed when going through the block layer >(such as 'dd' does when dumping a device). The block >layer was rewritten in the 2.6 kernel so a 2.6 can >access this last odd sector for those Windows file >system types that use it. > >A side note, you can happily acquire that sector using >the 2.4 Linux kernel, too. Just avoid the block layer >and use the raw device. I do this when I need to and >teach about it in my training classes. You don't need >a 2.6 kernel to get the last odd sector. You only >need to know what the problem is and how to work >around it in the 2.4 series kernels. > > >regards, > >farmerdude > >http://www.farmerdude.com/ > > > >--- Paul Stillwell <pa...@vn...> wrote: > > > >>Hello all, >> >> I'm reading some articles and one that I have >>come across (was >>handed to me unfortunately no link) and it says that >>Linux will not >>recognize the last sector of a disk if it has an odd >>number of sectors. >>I had never heard this before and it has prompted a >>couple of questions. >> >>1) will this affect an image acquired using dd? >> >>2) will it affect Sleuthkit's handling of an image >>of this drive? >> >>Thanks! >> >>Paul >> >> >> >> >> >------------------------------------------------------- > > >>This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do >>you grep through log files >>for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search >>engine that makes >>searching your log files as easy as surfing the >>web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! >> >> >> >http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=103432&bid=230486&dat=121642 > > >>_______________________________________________ >>sleuthkit-users mailing list >> >> >> >https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/sleuthkit-users > > >>http://www.sleuthkit.org >> >> >> > > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around >http://mail.yahoo.com > > > |
From: farmer d. <far...@ya...> - 2006-01-18 20:48:41
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Hi Paul, Linux doesn't access the last odd sector when initializing file systems and so the article you read probably indicated using Linux to acquire may leave the last sector if the count is odd or similar. This is true for the 2.4 Linux kernel because the block layer uses 1024 and a sector is 512, so it cannot be accessed when going through the block layer (such as 'dd' does when dumping a device). The block layer was rewritten in the 2.6 kernel so a 2.6 can access this last odd sector for those Windows file system types that use it. A side note, you can happily acquire that sector using the 2.4 Linux kernel, too. Just avoid the block layer and use the raw device. I do this when I need to and teach about it in my training classes. You don't need a 2.6 kernel to get the last odd sector. You only need to know what the problem is and how to work around it in the 2.4 series kernels. regards, farmerdude http://www.farmerdude.com/ --- Paul Stillwell <pa...@vn...> wrote: > Hello all, > > I'm reading some articles and one that I have > come across (was > handed to me unfortunately no link) and it says that > Linux will not > recognize the last sector of a disk if it has an odd > number of sectors. > I had never heard this before and it has prompted a > couple of questions. > > 1) will this affect an image acquired using dd? > > 2) will it affect Sleuthkit's handling of an image > of this drive? > > Thanks! > > Paul > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do > you grep through log files > for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search > engine that makes > searching your log files as easy as surfing the > web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! > http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=103432&bid=230486&dat=121642 > _______________________________________________ > sleuthkit-users mailing list > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/sleuthkit-users > http://www.sleuthkit.org > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com |
From: Eagle I. S. Inc. <in...@ea...> - 2006-01-18 07:57:59
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Paul, This is a well discussed, and well solved issue. Look in the archives, or on linuxforensics yahoo group. The simplest answer is to use the 2.6 kernel or use a patch for the 2.4 kernel to get around this. Google is your friend. And, Sleuthkit won't be affected per se, since it will analyze whatever you hand to it and quite successfully too. Niall. Paul Stillwell wrote: > Hello all, > > I'm reading some articles and one that I have come across (was > handed to me unfortunately no link) and it says that Linux will not > recognize the last sector of a disk if it has an odd number of sectors. > I had never heard this before and it has prompted a couple of questions. > > 1) will this affect an image acquired using dd? > > 2) will it affect Sleuthkit's handling of an image of this drive? > > Thanks! > > Paul > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log > files > for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes > searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! > http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=103432&bid=230486&dat=121642 > _______________________________________________ > sleuthkit-users mailing list > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/sleuthkit-users > http://www.sleuthkit.org > |
From: Paul S. <pa...@vn...> - 2006-01-18 03:28:39
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Hello all, I'm reading some articles and one that I have come across (was handed to me unfortunately no link) and it says that Linux will not recognize the last sector of a disk if it has an odd number of sectors. I had never heard this before and it has prompted a couple of questions. 1) will this affect an image acquired using dd? 2) will it affect Sleuthkit's handling of an image of this drive? Thanks! Paul |
From: Eagle I. S. I. <in...@ea...> - 2006-01-15 23:59:09
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Alex, This following might help: http://www.mainconcept.com/mpeg_encoder.shtml http://www.canopus.com/products/ProCoderExpress/index.php Niall. _____ From: sle...@li... [mailto:sle...@li...] On Behalf Of Aleksander Lavrih Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2006 4:01 PM To: sle...@li... Subject: [sleuthkit-users] mp4.raw Using Autopsy I've got .mp3.raw and mp4.raw files which I can't listen or see. How can I convert them in usual mp* format? dd? Regards, Alex |
From: Aleksander L. <ale...@si...> - 2006-01-15 21:01:36
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Using Autopsy I've got .mp3.raw and mp4.raw files which I can't listen or see. How can I convert them in usual mp* format? dd? Regards, Alex |
From: farmer d. <far...@ya...> - 2006-01-13 02:24:47
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Matt, The early bird gets the bush ... ;) CDFS is pretty cool at times. I cover its use in my training class and include it on my boot CD because of its usefulness. It's come in handy a few times. Happy 2006! farmerdude --- mm...@ta... wrote: > Farmer, you beat me to it, CDFS is covered in our > Agile Risk Management > Article on CDR Forensics. > > Good Luck Nico. > > M Shannon > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: farmer dude <far...@ya...> > Date: Thursday, January 12, 2006 5:22 pm > Subject: Re: [sleuthkit-users] CD Forensics > > > Hi Nico, > > > > Try mounting as type "cdfs" (you'll most likely > need > > to get that driver and compile against your kernel > or > > use a Linux forensic boot CD that already has it) > and > > then viewing the file "/proc/cdfs". This will > show > > you every session and allow you to mount each as > ISO. > > > > regards, > > > > farmerdude > > > > http://www.farmerdude.com/ > > > > > > > > --- Nico Kalteis <nka...@gm...> wrote: > > > > > UPDATE! > > > > > > OK, so I was playing around a bit more. Here is > > > what I did with an > > > experimental CD-R: > > > > > > 1) Wrote two files to the CD using standard > WinXP > > > method (right-click and > > > Send To D:) > > > 2) Wrote one more file using same method > > > 3) Wrote one more file using same method > > > > > > At this point Windows showed four files on my > CD-R. > > > > > > I take the CD and put it into my Linux box. > > > > > > 1) I run readcd dev=/dev/cdrom -fulltoc > > > > > > As expected, I get output saying that there are > > > three sessions on that CD-R: > > > > > > Read speed: 5645 kB/s (CD 32x, DVD 4x). > > > Write speed: 1411 kB/s (CD 8x, DVD 1x). > > > TOC len: 180. First Session: 1 Last Session: 3. > > > 01 14 00 A0 00 00 00 00 01 20 00 > > > 01 14 00 A1 00 00 00 00 01 00 00 > > > 01 14 00 A2 00 00 00 00 00 06 03 > > > 01 14 00 01 00 00 00 00 00 02 00 > > > 01 54 00 B0 02 24 03 02 4F 3B 4A > > > 01 54 00 C0 A0 00 40 00 61 11 06 > > > 02 14 00 A0 00 00 00 00 02 20 00 > > > 02 14 00 A1 00 00 00 00 02 00 00 > > > 02 14 00 A2 00 00 00 00 02 2A 06 > > > 02 14 00 02 00 00 00 00 02 26 03 > > > 02 54 00 B0 04 0C 06 01 4F 3B 4A > > > 03 14 00 A0 00 00 00 00 03 20 00 > > > 03 14 00 A1 00 00 00 00 03 00 00 > > > 03 14 00 A2 00 00 00 00 04 12 09 > > > 03 14 00 03 00 00 00 00 04 0E 06 > > > 03 54 00 B0 05 30 09 01 4F 3B 4A > > > Lead out 1: 303 > > > Lead out 2: 12006 > > > Lead out 3: 19209 > > > > > > 2) I do a 'hexdump -C /dev/cdrom | less' > > > > > > Everything goes fine for a while. I see the two > > > files I wrote first and the > > > TOC. Then I see a 'hexdump: /dev/hdc: > Input/output > > > error'. > > > > > > 3) OK, so I try dcfldd (later I tried > unsuccessfully > > > using readcd. It > > > produced tons of I/O errors until it finally > froze > > > up. After rebooting I > > > look at the image file written by dcfldd (using > > > hexdump) and it ends right > > > where the original hexdump od /dev/cdrom ended. > > > > > > So, eventually I realized that the place the > > > hexdumps stopped and dcfldd > > > froze up was at blocksize (2048) * 303 (Lead Out > 1 > > > from readcd output > > > earlier). That tells me that everything is fine > > > while looking at the first > > > session only. But for some reason hexdump and > > > dcfldd won't show me the > > > other two sessions. Any ideas? > > > > > > For what it's worth, mounting the CD using -t > > > iso9660 and doing an ls -l > > > shows all four files. > > > > > > Again, thanks and enjoy the brain teaser! > > > > > > Nico > > > > > > > > > > > > On 1/12/06, Nico Kalteis <nka...@gm...> > wrote: > > > > > > > > I would like to thank everyone very much for > their > > > input. It has opened > > > > up some interesting additional avenues for > > > exploration, which I will do > > > > right away. > > > > > > > > To answer a couple of questions, I began to dd > > > (dcfldd, actually) the > > > > whole thing but started to run into heavy I/O > > > errors after about 55MB or > > > > so. Obtaining the image slowed to a crawl > where I > > > would get about 1MB every > > > > minute, which ended up becoming unfeasible for > > > this particular situation. I > > > > would have loved to get the whole thing, > but...oh > > > well. So, I did all of my > > > > analysis on the 50MB chunk. I did run it > through > > > foremost and all it found > > > > was just the one file. I was able to verify > that > > > finding fairly easily > > > > using hexdump since it abbreviates the data > with a > > > simple asterisk if the > > > > preceeding line occurs more than once. That > made > > > the 50+MB fairly easy to > > > > skim through manually. > > > > > > > > The link to http://www.agilerm.net/linux1.html > is > > > excellent! > > > > > > > > Thanks again for your time! > > > > > > > > Nico > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam > protection around > > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do > you grep through > > log files > > for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search > engine that makes > > searching your log files as easy as surfing the > web. DOWNLOAD > > > SPLUNK!http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7637&alloc_id=16865&op=click > > _______________________________________________ > > sleuthkit-users mailing list > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/sleuthkit-users > > http://www.sleuthkit.org > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do > you grep through log files > for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search > engine that makes > searching your log files as easy as surfing the > web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! > === message truncated === __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com |
From: Nico K. <nka...@gm...> - 2006-01-12 23:50:30
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Thanks to both of you! I'll try that first thing. I should mention that I did see that in the article. However, the article said that mounting the C= D normally (which defaults to iso9660) only showed one session's worth of dat= a while mounting it CDFS showed all session which could be individually mounted. When I mounted the CD using iso9660 (I don't have the CDFS driver= s yet) I saw all four files, i.e. all sessions' data. Based on the article I only expected to see the one file written in the most recent section. <Time passes as I installed the CDFS driver> OK, so I couldn't resist and installed the CDFS driver before finishing thi= s email. It worked! I mounted it with CDFS and can do a hexdump on the individual ISOs. Very cool. Thanks again everyone for your help. This was a most invaluable experience= . Cheers! Nico On 1/12/06, mm...@ta... <mm...@ta...> wrote: > > Farmer, you beat me to it, CDFS is covered in our Agile Risk Management > Article on CDR Forensics. > > Good Luck Nico. > > M Shannon > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: farmer dude <far...@ya...> > Date: Thursday, January 12, 2006 5:22 pm > Subject: Re: [sleuthkit-users] CD Forensics > > > Hi Nico, > > > > Try mounting as type "cdfs" (you'll most likely need > > to get that driver and compile against your kernel or > > use a Linux forensic boot CD that already has it) and > > then viewing the file "/proc/cdfs". This will show > > you every session and allow you to mount each as ISO. > > > > regards, > > > > farmerdude > > > > http://www.farmerdude.com/ > > > > > > > > --- Nico Kalteis <nka...@gm...> wrote: > > > > > UPDATE! > > > > > > OK, so I was playing around a bit more. Here is > > > what I did with an > > > experimental CD-R: > > > > > > 1) Wrote two files to the CD using standard WinXP > > > method (right-click and > > > Send To D:) > > > 2) Wrote one more file using same method > > > 3) Wrote one more file using same method > > > > > > At this point Windows showed four files on my CD-R. > > > > > > I take the CD and put it into my Linux box. > > > > > > 1) I run readcd dev=3D/dev/cdrom -fulltoc > > > > > > As expected, I get output saying that there are > > > three sessions on that CD-R: > > > > > > Read speed: 5645 kB/s (CD 32x, DVD 4x). > > > Write speed: 1411 kB/s (CD 8x, DVD 1x). > > > TOC len: 180. First Session: 1 Last Session: 3. > > > 01 14 00 A0 00 00 00 00 01 20 00 > > > 01 14 00 A1 00 00 00 00 01 00 00 > > > 01 14 00 A2 00 00 00 00 00 06 03 > > > 01 14 00 01 00 00 00 00 00 02 00 > > > 01 54 00 B0 02 24 03 02 4F 3B 4A > > > 01 54 00 C0 A0 00 40 00 61 11 06 > > > 02 14 00 A0 00 00 00 00 02 20 00 > > > 02 14 00 A1 00 00 00 00 02 00 00 > > > 02 14 00 A2 00 00 00 00 02 2A 06 > > > 02 14 00 02 00 00 00 00 02 26 03 > > > 02 54 00 B0 04 0C 06 01 4F 3B 4A > > > 03 14 00 A0 00 00 00 00 03 20 00 > > > 03 14 00 A1 00 00 00 00 03 00 00 > > > 03 14 00 A2 00 00 00 00 04 12 09 > > > 03 14 00 03 00 00 00 00 04 0E 06 > > > 03 54 00 B0 05 30 09 01 4F 3B 4A > > > Lead out 1: 303 > > > Lead out 2: 12006 > > > Lead out 3: 19209 > > > > > > 2) I do a 'hexdump -C /dev/cdrom | less' > > > > > > Everything goes fine for a while. I see the two > > > files I wrote first and the > > > TOC. Then I see a 'hexdump: /dev/hdc: Input/output > > > error'. > > > > > > 3) OK, so I try dcfldd (later I tried unsuccessfully > > > using readcd. It > > > produced tons of I/O errors until it finally froze > > > up. After rebooting I > > > look at the image file written by dcfldd (using > > > hexdump) and it ends right > > > where the original hexdump od /dev/cdrom ended. > > > > > > So, eventually I realized that the place the > > > hexdumps stopped and dcfldd > > > froze up was at blocksize (2048) * 303 (Lead Out 1 > > > from readcd output > > > earlier). That tells me that everything is fine > > > while looking at the first > > > session only. But for some reason hexdump and > > > dcfldd won't show me the > > > other two sessions. Any ideas? > > > > > > For what it's worth, mounting the CD using -t > > > iso9660 and doing an ls -l > > > shows all four files. > > > > > > Again, thanks and enjoy the brain teaser! > > > > > > Nico > > > > > > > > > > > > On 1/12/06, Nico Kalteis <nka...@gm...> wrote: > > > > > > > > I would like to thank everyone very much for their > > > input. It has opened > > > > up some interesting additional avenues for > > > exploration, which I will do > > > > right away. > > > > > > > > To answer a couple of questions, I began to dd > > > (dcfldd, actually) the > > > > whole thing but started to run into heavy I/O > > > errors after about 55MB or > > > > so. Obtaining the image slowed to a crawl where I > > > would get about 1MB every > > > > minute, which ended up becoming unfeasible for > > > this particular situation. I > > > > would have loved to get the whole thing, but...oh > > > well. So, I did all of my > > > > analysis on the 50MB chunk. I did run it through > > > foremost and all it found > > > > was just the one file. I was able to verify that > > > finding fairly easily > > > > using hexdump since it abbreviates the data with a > > > simple asterisk if the > > > > preceeding line occurs more than once. That made > > > the 50+MB fairly easy to > > > > skim through manually. > > > > > > > > The link to http://www.agilerm.net/linux1.html is > > > excellent! > > > > > > > > Thanks again for your time! > > > > > > > > Nico > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through > > log files > > for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes > > searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. 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From: <mm...@ta...> - 2006-01-12 22:56:44
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Farmer, you beat me to it, CDFS is covered in our Agile Risk Management Article on CDR Forensics. Good Luck Nico. M Shannon ----- Original Message ----- From: farmer dude <far...@ya...> Date: Thursday, January 12, 2006 5:22 pm Subject: Re: [sleuthkit-users] CD Forensics > Hi Nico, > > Try mounting as type "cdfs" (you'll most likely need > to get that driver and compile against your kernel or > use a Linux forensic boot CD that already has it) and > then viewing the file "/proc/cdfs". This will show > you every session and allow you to mount each as ISO. > > regards, > > farmerdude > > http://www.farmerdude.com/ > > > > --- Nico Kalteis <nka...@gm...> wrote: > > > UPDATE! > > > > OK, so I was playing around a bit more. Here is > > what I did with an > > experimental CD-R: > > > > 1) Wrote two files to the CD using standard WinXP > > method (right-click and > > Send To D:) > > 2) Wrote one more file using same method > > 3) Wrote one more file using same method > > > > At this point Windows showed four files on my CD-R. > > > > I take the CD and put it into my Linux box. > > > > 1) I run readcd dev=/dev/cdrom -fulltoc > > > > As expected, I get output saying that there are > > three sessions on that CD-R: > > > > Read speed: 5645 kB/s (CD 32x, DVD 4x). > > Write speed: 1411 kB/s (CD 8x, DVD 1x). > > TOC len: 180. First Session: 1 Last Session: 3. > > 01 14 00 A0 00 00 00 00 01 20 00 > > 01 14 00 A1 00 00 00 00 01 00 00 > > 01 14 00 A2 00 00 00 00 00 06 03 > > 01 14 00 01 00 00 00 00 00 02 00 > > 01 54 00 B0 02 24 03 02 4F 3B 4A > > 01 54 00 C0 A0 00 40 00 61 11 06 > > 02 14 00 A0 00 00 00 00 02 20 00 > > 02 14 00 A1 00 00 00 00 02 00 00 > > 02 14 00 A2 00 00 00 00 02 2A 06 > > 02 14 00 02 00 00 00 00 02 26 03 > > 02 54 00 B0 04 0C 06 01 4F 3B 4A > > 03 14 00 A0 00 00 00 00 03 20 00 > > 03 14 00 A1 00 00 00 00 03 00 00 > > 03 14 00 A2 00 00 00 00 04 12 09 > > 03 14 00 03 00 00 00 00 04 0E 06 > > 03 54 00 B0 05 30 09 01 4F 3B 4A > > Lead out 1: 303 > > Lead out 2: 12006 > > Lead out 3: 19209 > > > > 2) I do a 'hexdump -C /dev/cdrom | less' > > > > Everything goes fine for a while. I see the two > > files I wrote first and the > > TOC. Then I see a 'hexdump: /dev/hdc: Input/output > > error'. > > > > 3) OK, so I try dcfldd (later I tried unsuccessfully > > using readcd. It > > produced tons of I/O errors until it finally froze > > up. After rebooting I > > look at the image file written by dcfldd (using > > hexdump) and it ends right > > where the original hexdump od /dev/cdrom ended. > > > > So, eventually I realized that the place the > > hexdumps stopped and dcfldd > > froze up was at blocksize (2048) * 303 (Lead Out 1 > > from readcd output > > earlier). That tells me that everything is fine > > while looking at the first > > session only. But for some reason hexdump and > > dcfldd won't show me the > > other two sessions. Any ideas? > > > > For what it's worth, mounting the CD using -t > > iso9660 and doing an ls -l > > shows all four files. > > > > Again, thanks and enjoy the brain teaser! > > > > Nico > > > > > > > > On 1/12/06, Nico Kalteis <nka...@gm...> wrote: > > > > > > I would like to thank everyone very much for their > > input. It has opened > > > up some interesting additional avenues for > > exploration, which I will do > > > right away. > > > > > > To answer a couple of questions, I began to dd > > (dcfldd, actually) the > > > whole thing but started to run into heavy I/O > > errors after about 55MB or > > > so. Obtaining the image slowed to a crawl where I > > would get about 1MB every > > > minute, which ended up becoming unfeasible for > > this particular situation. I > > > would have loved to get the whole thing, but...oh > > well. So, I did all of my > > > analysis on the 50MB chunk. I did run it through > > foremost and all it found > > > was just the one file. I was able to verify that > > finding fairly easily > > > using hexdump since it abbreviates the data with a > > simple asterisk if the > > > preceeding line occurs more than once. That made > > the 50+MB fairly easy to > > > skim through manually. > > > > > > The link to http://www.agilerm.net/linux1.html is > > excellent! > > > > > > Thanks again for your time! > > > > > > Nico > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through > log files > for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes > searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD > SPLUNK!http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7637&alloc_id=16865&op=click > _______________________________________________ > sleuthkit-users mailing list > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/sleuthkit-users > http://www.sleuthkit.org > |
From: farmer d. <far...@ya...> - 2006-01-12 22:22:40
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Hi Nico, Try mounting as type "cdfs" (you'll most likely need to get that driver and compile against your kernel or use a Linux forensic boot CD that already has it) and then viewing the file "/proc/cdfs". This will show you every session and allow you to mount each as ISO. regards, farmerdude http://www.farmerdude.com/ --- Nico Kalteis <nka...@gm...> wrote: > UPDATE! > > OK, so I was playing around a bit more. Here is > what I did with an > experimental CD-R: > > 1) Wrote two files to the CD using standard WinXP > method (right-click and > Send To D:) > 2) Wrote one more file using same method > 3) Wrote one more file using same method > > At this point Windows showed four files on my CD-R. > > I take the CD and put it into my Linux box. > > 1) I run readcd dev=/dev/cdrom -fulltoc > > As expected, I get output saying that there are > three sessions on that CD-R: > > Read speed: 5645 kB/s (CD 32x, DVD 4x). > Write speed: 1411 kB/s (CD 8x, DVD 1x). > TOC len: 180. First Session: 1 Last Session: 3. > 01 14 00 A0 00 00 00 00 01 20 00 > 01 14 00 A1 00 00 00 00 01 00 00 > 01 14 00 A2 00 00 00 00 00 06 03 > 01 14 00 01 00 00 00 00 00 02 00 > 01 54 00 B0 02 24 03 02 4F 3B 4A > 01 54 00 C0 A0 00 40 00 61 11 06 > 02 14 00 A0 00 00 00 00 02 20 00 > 02 14 00 A1 00 00 00 00 02 00 00 > 02 14 00 A2 00 00 00 00 02 2A 06 > 02 14 00 02 00 00 00 00 02 26 03 > 02 54 00 B0 04 0C 06 01 4F 3B 4A > 03 14 00 A0 00 00 00 00 03 20 00 > 03 14 00 A1 00 00 00 00 03 00 00 > 03 14 00 A2 00 00 00 00 04 12 09 > 03 14 00 03 00 00 00 00 04 0E 06 > 03 54 00 B0 05 30 09 01 4F 3B 4A > Lead out 1: 303 > Lead out 2: 12006 > Lead out 3: 19209 > > 2) I do a 'hexdump -C /dev/cdrom | less' > > Everything goes fine for a while. I see the two > files I wrote first and the > TOC. Then I see a 'hexdump: /dev/hdc: Input/output > error'. > > 3) OK, so I try dcfldd (later I tried unsuccessfully > using readcd. It > produced tons of I/O errors until it finally froze > up. After rebooting I > look at the image file written by dcfldd (using > hexdump) and it ends right > where the original hexdump od /dev/cdrom ended. > > So, eventually I realized that the place the > hexdumps stopped and dcfldd > froze up was at blocksize (2048) * 303 (Lead Out 1 > from readcd output > earlier). That tells me that everything is fine > while looking at the first > session only. But for some reason hexdump and > dcfldd won't show me the > other two sessions. Any ideas? > > For what it's worth, mounting the CD using -t > iso9660 and doing an ls -l > shows all four files. > > Again, thanks and enjoy the brain teaser! > > Nico > > > > On 1/12/06, Nico Kalteis <nka...@gm...> wrote: > > > > I would like to thank everyone very much for their > input. It has opened > > up some interesting additional avenues for > exploration, which I will do > > right away. > > > > To answer a couple of questions, I began to dd > (dcfldd, actually) the > > whole thing but started to run into heavy I/O > errors after about 55MB or > > so. Obtaining the image slowed to a crawl where I > would get about 1MB every > > minute, which ended up becoming unfeasible for > this particular situation. I > > would have loved to get the whole thing, but...oh > well. So, I did all of my > > analysis on the 50MB chunk. I did run it through > foremost and all it found > > was just the one file. I was able to verify that > finding fairly easily > > using hexdump since it abbreviates the data with a > simple asterisk if the > > preceeding line occurs more than once. That made > the 50+MB fairly easy to > > skim through manually. > > > > The link to http://www.agilerm.net/linux1.html is > excellent! > > > > Thanks again for your time! > > > > Nico > > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com |
From: Nico K. <nka...@gm...> - 2006-01-12 21:12:13
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UPDATE! OK, so I was playing around a bit more. Here is what I did with an experimental CD-R: 1) Wrote two files to the CD using standard WinXP method (right-click and Send To D:) 2) Wrote one more file using same method 3) Wrote one more file using same method At this point Windows showed four files on my CD-R. I take the CD and put it into my Linux box. 1) I run readcd dev=3D/dev/cdrom -fulltoc As expected, I get output saying that there are three sessions on that CD-R= : Read speed: 5645 kB/s (CD 32x, DVD 4x). Write speed: 1411 kB/s (CD 8x, DVD 1x). TOC len: 180. First Session: 1 Last Session: 3. 01 14 00 A0 00 00 00 00 01 20 00 01 14 00 A1 00 00 00 00 01 00 00 01 14 00 A2 00 00 00 00 00 06 03 01 14 00 01 00 00 00 00 00 02 00 01 54 00 B0 02 24 03 02 4F 3B 4A 01 54 00 C0 A0 00 40 00 61 11 06 02 14 00 A0 00 00 00 00 02 20 00 02 14 00 A1 00 00 00 00 02 00 00 02 14 00 A2 00 00 00 00 02 2A 06 02 14 00 02 00 00 00 00 02 26 03 02 54 00 B0 04 0C 06 01 4F 3B 4A 03 14 00 A0 00 00 00 00 03 20 00 03 14 00 A1 00 00 00 00 03 00 00 03 14 00 A2 00 00 00 00 04 12 09 03 14 00 03 00 00 00 00 04 0E 06 03 54 00 B0 05 30 09 01 4F 3B 4A Lead out 1: 303 Lead out 2: 12006 Lead out 3: 19209 2) I do a 'hexdump -C /dev/cdrom | less' Everything goes fine for a while. I see the two files I wrote first and th= e TOC. Then I see a 'hexdump: /dev/hdc: Input/output error'. 3) OK, so I try dcfldd (later I tried unsuccessfully using readcd. It produced tons of I/O errors until it finally froze up. After rebooting I look at the image file written by dcfldd (using hexdump) and it ends right where the original hexdump od /dev/cdrom ended. So, eventually I realized that the place the hexdumps stopped and dcfldd froze up was at blocksize (2048) * 303 (Lead Out 1 from readcd output earlier). That tells me that everything is fine while looking at the first session only. But for some reason hexdump and dcfldd won't show me the other two sessions. Any ideas? For what it's worth, mounting the CD using -t iso9660 and doing an ls -l shows all four files. Again, thanks and enjoy the brain teaser! Nico On 1/12/06, Nico Kalteis <nka...@gm...> wrote: > > I would like to thank everyone very much for their input. It has opened > up some interesting additional avenues for exploration, which I will do > right away. > > To answer a couple of questions, I began to dd (dcfldd, actually) the > whole thing but started to run into heavy I/O errors after about 55MB or > so. Obtaining the image slowed to a crawl where I would get about 1MB ev= ery > minute, which ended up becoming unfeasible for this particular situation.= I > would have loved to get the whole thing, but...oh well. So, I did all of= my > analysis on the 50MB chunk. I did run it through foremost and all it fou= nd > was just the one file. I was able to verify that finding fairly easily > using hexdump since it abbreviates the data with a simple asterisk if the > preceeding line occurs more than once. That made the 50+MB fairly easy t= o > skim through manually. > > The link to http://www.agilerm.net/linux1.html is excellent! > > Thanks again for your time! > > Nico > |
From: Nico K. <nka...@gm...> - 2006-01-12 18:18:22
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I would like to thank everyone very much for their input. It has opened up some interesting additional avenues for exploration, which I will do right away. To answer a couple of questions, I began to dd (dcfldd, actually) the whole thing but started to run into heavy I/O errors after about 55MB or so. Obtaining the image slowed to a crawl where I would get about 1MB every minute, which ended up becoming unfeasible for this particular situation. = I would have loved to get the whole thing, but...oh well. So, I did all of m= y analysis on the 50MB chunk. I did run it through foremost and all it found was just the one file. I was able to verify that finding fairly easily using hexdump since it abbreviates the data with a simple asterisk if the preceeding line occurs more than once. That made the 50+MB fairly easy to skim through manually. The link to http://www.agilerm.net/linux1.html is excellent! Thanks again for your time! Nico |
From: Barry J. G. <bg...@im...> - 2006-01-12 16:50:50
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On Thu, 2006-01-12 at 10:12 -0500, Nico Kalteis wrote: > I was recently tasked with looking at a CD-R. In general, this has some pointers you might find interesting. FWIW, this whole series of articles is good stuff. http://www.agilerm.net/linux1.html -- /*************************************** Special Agent Barry J. Grundy NASA Office of Inspector General Computer Crimes Division Goddard Space Flight Center Code 190 Greenbelt Rd. Greenbelt, MD 20771 (301)286-3358 **************************************/ |
From: Kalisiak A. C. <Ale...@ni...> - 2006-01-12 16:32:04
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You might want to look up ISO9660 standards. You could probably use that to figure exactly where the file table should be for any given CD media. . . From what I remember though, Single session / closed disc: File table first, then files Multi-session: (old data) files, then file table It sounds like the user saved a bit of data on there, saved it as an open session, then created another session (or more) after that. Have you DD'ed the whole thing, and maybe ran foremost or anything yet? - Alex Kalisiak DMS/Exchange Administrator Niagara Falls IAP-ARS Comm: 716.236.3310 DSN: 238.3310 ale...@ni... _____ From: sle...@li... [mailto:sle...@li...] On Behalf Of Nico Kalteis Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2006 10:12 AM To: sle...@li... Subject: [sleuthkit-users] CD Forensics Good morning! This doesn't pertain directly to TSK, but I thought some of you might be able to offer me some insight into this issue. I was recently tasked with looking at a CD-R. There was only a single file of about 55KB. However, when checking the properties under Windows it showed that the used space was somewhere in the vicinity of ~580MB, which equalled the capacity of the CD-R. We suspected that there was more data than just that one file. We proceeded to get a bit-level image using dcfldd with various (conv=noerror,sync) and got to about 50MB when we started getting errors that simply slowed the read process down dramatically. The CD was heavily scratched, which might have caused the issue. However, when looking at the CD image we did get using hexedit and hexdump, we did only see that one file followed eventually by the file table. It appears that the CD format was UDF and that only that one file was on the disk. I tried to replicate the scenario by writing a single file of similar size to a new CD-R using various methods native to XP as well as using Nero. But in each case the amount of used space according to the Windows properties sheet was in the KB range, which I expected based on file size + file table. But nowhere near the full capacity of the CD. Has anybody run into this or does anybody have any insight? Do you think there might be more data? Since it's a CD-R I really doubt that anybody would write files to the CD and be able to mess with the file table. Particularly the person in question. Also, does anybody have anymore info on the location of the file table? On some CD-Rs and CD-RWs I see the file table at the very beginning of the CD before the files themselves, and on others I see the files first followed eventually by the file table. Thank you VERY much for your time and interest. Cheers! Nico |
From: Rich T. <te...@ap...> - 2006-01-12 15:29:54
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Could it be that the session was not closed???? What would the files of a opened session CD-R look like in the forensics environment? Interesting- never ran into that before. Cool problem (academically, of course) Nico Kalteis <nka...@gm...> wrote: Good morning! This doesn't pertain directly to TSK, but I thought some of you might be able to offer me some insight into this issue. I was recently tasked with looking at a CD-R. There was only a single file of about 55KB. However, when checking the properties under Windows it showed that the used space was somewhere in the vicinity of ~580MB, which equalled the capacity of the CD-R. We suspected that there was more data than just that one file. We proceeded to get a bit-level image using dcfldd with various (conv=noerror,sync) and got to about 50MB when we started getting errors that simply slowed the read process down dramatically. The CD was heavily scratched, which might have caused the issue. However, when looking at the CD image we did get using hexedit and hexdump, we did only see that one file followed eventually by the file table. It appears that the CD format was UDF and that only that one file was on the disk. I tried to replicate the scenario by writing a single file of similar size to a new CD-R using various methods native to XP as well as using Nero. But in each case the amount of used space according to the Windows properties sheet was in the KB range, which I expected based on file size + file table. But nowhere near the full capacity of the CD. Has anybody run into this or does anybody have any insight? Do you think there might be more data? Since it's a CD-R I really doubt that anybody would write files to the CD and be able to mess with the file table. Particularly the person in question. Also, does anybody have anymore info on the location of the file table? On some CD-Rs and CD-RWs I see the file table at the very beginning of the CD before the files themselves, and on others I see the files first followed eventually by the file table. Thank you VERY much for your time and interest. Cheers! Nico |
From: Nico K. <nka...@gm...> - 2006-01-12 15:12:40
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Good morning! This doesn't pertain directly to TSK, but I thought some of you might be able to offer me some insight into this issue. I was recently tasked with looking at a CD-R. There was only a single file of about 55KB. However, when checking the properties under Windows it showed that the used space was somewhere in the vicinity of ~580MB, which equalled the capacity of the CD-R. We suspected that there was more data than just that one file. We proceeded to get a bit-level image using dcfldd with various (conv=3Dnoerror,sync) and got to about 50MB when we started getting errors that simply slowed the read process down dramatically. The CD was heavily scratched, which might have caused the issue. However, when looking at the CD image we did get using hexedit and hexdump, we did only see that one fil= e followed eventually by the file table. It appears that the CD format was UDF and that only that one file was on the disk. I tried to replicate the scenario by writing a single file of similar size to a new CD-R using various methods native to XP as well as using Nero. Bu= t in each case the amount of used space according to the Windows properties sheet was in the KB range, which I expected based on file size + file table. But nowhere near the full capacity of the CD. Has anybody run into this or does anybody have any insight? Do you think there might be more data? Since it's a CD-R I really doubt that anybody would write files to the CD and be able to mess with the file table. Particularly the person in question. Also, does anybody have anymore info on the location of the file table? On some CD-Rs and CD-RWs I see the file table at the very beginning of the CD before the files themselves, and on others I see the files first followed eventually by the file table. Thank you VERY much for your time and interest. Cheers! Nico |
From: J B <je...@ad...> - 2006-01-12 02:56:30
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> > That is very strange. Do all of the other tools work? Have you tried > to recompile? I can't say that I have tried Fedora on a PPC, but I > don't see why some tools would work and others wouldn't. . They > all share the same image opening routines. Nothing at all is printed > to stderr with '-v'? > > brian nope, nothing but the invalid... and then correct usage readout I appreciate your help. -jessop |
From: Brian C. <ca...@sl...> - 2006-01-12 01:14:58
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On Jan 11, 2006, at 8:00 PM, J B wrote: > > Thank you.. at your suggestion, I tried that. I tried offsets 61, > 62, 63, 64 and didn't get anywhere. > > I changed the filename to just "old". > > #mmls old //still reports a primary table, unallocated, dos fat16 > (starting at 63) > > interestingly enough, > > #fls -r -o 63 -f fat /evidence/old //works fine, I can even grep > JPG as long as I remember unix is case sensitive ;) > > There's probably something obvious I'm overlooking with fsstat That is very strange. Do all of the other tools work? Have you tried to recompile? I can't say that I have tried Fedora on a PPC, but I don't see why some tools would work and others wouldn't. . They all share the same image opening routines. Nothing at all is printed to stderr with '-v'? brian |
From: J B <je...@ad...> - 2006-01-12 01:00:53
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>> mmls /evidence/old.dd >> *reports first sector (0) Primary Table, 1 > 62 unallocated, 63 > >> 1031121 DOS FAT16 > <snip> >> fsstat old.dd >> invalid arguemnt: old.dd > > In addition to the fstype, as farmerdude pointed out, you will probably > want to point to the offset to the file system. Your mmls output > reports that the fs is at sector 63, not the front of the image. > > fsstat -f fat -o 63 old.dd (assuming it's formatted FAT). > > Thank you.. at your suggestion, I tried that. I tried offsets 61, 62, 63, 64 and didn't get anywhere. I changed the filename to just "old". #mmls old //still reports a primary table, unallocated, dos fat16 (starting at 63) interestingly enough, #fls -r -o 63 -f fat /evidence/old //works fine, I can even grep JPG as long as I remember unix is case sensitive ;) There's probably something obvious I'm overlooking with fsstat thanks, JB |
From: Barry J. G. <bg...@im...> - 2006-01-11 20:07:37
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On Tue, 2006-01-10 at 22:30 -0500, J B wrote: > mmls /evidence/old.dd > *reports first sector (0) Primary Table, 1 > 62 unallocated, 63 > > 1031121 DOS FAT16 <snip> > fsstat old.dd > invalid arguemnt: old.dd In addition to the fstype, as farmerdude pointed out, you will probably want to point to the offset to the file system. Your mmls output reports that the fs is at sector 63, not the front of the image. fsstat -f fat -o 63 old.dd (assuming it's formatted FAT). -- /*************************************** Special Agent Barry J. Grundy NASA Office of Inspector General Computer Crimes Division Goddard Space Flight Center Code 190 Greenbelt Rd. Greenbelt, MD 20771 (301)286-3358 **************************************/ |
From: farmer d. <far...@ya...> - 2006-01-11 05:39:36
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JB, What happens when you pass one or more arguments to "fsstat"? Perhaps; fsstat -t old.dd -OR- fsstat -f FSTYPE_HERE old.dd -OR- fsstat -vt old.dd Does your mileage improve by passing arguments before the file name? regards, farmerdude http://www.farmerdude.com/farmercd.html --- J B <je...@ad...> wrote: > I installed tsk on my ibook running ppc fedora. > Some things work, others don't > > I have a file called old.dd which is an image of an > old 512mb hd. > > mmls /evidence/old.dd > *reports first sector (0) Primary Table, 1 > 62 > unallocated, 63 > 1031121 DOS FAT16 > > however, > > fsstat old.dd > invalid arguemnt: old.dd > > fsstat "old.dd" = invalid argument: old.dd > fsstat 'old.dd', ... > fsstat "\evidence\old.dd" = invalid argument: > \evidence\old.dd > > verbose doesn't even report anything. > > Any suggestions? > > -JB __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com |
From: J B <je...@ad...> - 2006-01-11 03:30:53
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I installed tsk on my ibook running ppc fedora. Some things work, = others don't I have a file called old.dd which is an image of an old 512mb hd. mmls /evidence/old.dd=20 *reports first sector (0) Primary Table, 1 > 62 unallocated, 63 > = 1031121 DOS FAT16 however, fsstat old.dd invalid arguemnt: old.dd fsstat "old.dd" =3D invalid argument: old.dd fsstat 'old.dd', ... fsstat "\evidence\old.dd" =3D invalid argument: \evidence\old.dd verbose doesn't even report anything. Any suggestions? -JB |
From: farmer d. <far...@ya...> - 2006-01-04 19:44:16
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Hi Colby, You might improve your mileage by acquiring the drive in reverse (reverse sector cloning). 'ddrescue' can do this on the Linux side of the house. There is another *nix utility but I've brain farted and cannot remember it at this point. Look into it and see if that doesn't help you. regards, farmerdude http://www.farmerdude.com/farmercd.html __________________________________________ Yahoo! DSL Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less. dsl.yahoo.com |