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Re: [Slashcode-development] Topics

[Eric D. <eri...@ja...>]

Multiple topics would be good. How about a story can have one main
topic, but have many related subtopics? That would make more sense.

Brian Aker wrote:

> So this is what is floating around in my head for
> changes to topics. These are the needs I see:
> * Stories need to be able to belong to multiple
>   topics
> * We still need a single topic for display
> * This still has to be fast
> * We need section topics
> * The topic list is to long in admin for large
>   sites
> * Keyword support for RSS and such would be nice
>
> To pull this off, the following changes are made:
> * Stories get a sequence (need this for other stuff too..)
> * Topics get a sequence and an optional section
> * Table is created that puts a story sequence with the
>   topic sequence.
>

Yeah, but aren't the sid's or whatever is used to identify them already
unique? Then you really don't need to create a sequence do you? The
table could just have the unique fields from the topics table and the
stories table.

>
> We can either assign all topics to sections, or
> topics without sections are global.
>
> Stories are still displayed with the topic used in
> the story table. We can use the use the multiple topics
> for places where we need keyword support today.
>
> This about a days worth of work and this would be
> for 2.2 (which should add the support newsforge needs).
>
>         -Brian

[Slashcode-development] Topics

[Brian A. <br...@ta...>]

So this is what is floating around in my head for
changes to topics. These are the needs I see:
* Stories need to be able to belong to multiple
  topics
* We still need a single topic for display
* This still has to be fast
* We need section topics
* The topic list is to long in admin for large
  sites
* Keyword support for RSS and such would be nice

To pull this off, the following changes are made:
* Stories get a sequence (need this for other stuff too..)
* Topics get a sequence and an optional section
* Table is created that puts a story sequence with the 
  topic sequence.

We can either assign all topics to sections, or
topics without sections are global.

Stories are still displayed with the topic used in
the story table. We can use the use the multiple topics
for places where we need keyword support today.

This about a days worth of work and this would be
for 2.2 (which should add the support newsforge needs).

	-Brian

Re: [Slashcode-development] Bender on Oracle

[Brian A. <br...@ta...>]

Stephen Clouse wrote:
> Is anyone actively working on getting bender to work on Oracle?  I noticed some
> work had been done (mainly to getting a working DB schema) between 1.1.3 and
> 1.1.4.  I have been doing some work on this myself in my limited free time, but
> if there's already a person or group to collaborate with I'd like to avoid
> duplication of effort.
There is. More to come on this very soon...
	-Brian

[Slashcode-development] Bender on Oracle

[Stephen C. <the...@wa...>]

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Is anyone actively working on getting bender to work on Oracle?  I noticed some
work had been done (mainly to getting a working DB schema) between 1.1.3 and
1.1.4.  I have been doing some work on this myself in my limited free time, but
if there's already a person or group to collaborate with I'd like to avoid
duplication of effort.

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Re: [Slashcode-development] Section hierarchy

[Brian A. <br...@ta...>]

shane wrote:
> This is interesting. I've often "wished out loud" that I
> wanted a different structure then topic::section. But instead
> of doing anything about it I've tried to make my site's logic
> match the topic:section-type-layout.
> 
> One of the things that I have wanted, specifically, is the
> ability to assign a story to multiple topics (tho I wouldn't want
> all the topic's graphics to show up with the story)
We have talked about this internally... stories belonging to multiple
topics. Newsforge and a few other sites are in need of this,
so you will probably see it at some point in the near future.
What we have talked about is a primary topic  and then 
secondary section topics. 

So, I have the code in my head, but the interface is still somewhat
not very well established. Would you want to finish a story and then
get a list of secondary topics to select from?

	-Brian

Re: [Slashcode-development] Section hierarchy

[shane <sh...@lo...>]

At 06:29 AM 2/22/2000 -0800, you wrote:
>Would anyone be interesed in there being some hierarchy to the sections?
>
>For example, you could have:
>
>Apple > OS X
>
>as 2 sections on your site, OS X being a child section of Apple.
>
>Or to hit closer to home:
>
>Linux > Debian
>
>etc.
>
>I know *sometimes* you could just add another topic, but other times it just
>makes no sense.
>
>If you have thought about this feature and would like to see it or have a
>hack to provide it, let me know and include any applicable thoughts.

This is interesting. I've often "wished out loud" that I
wanted a different structure then topic::section. But instead
of doing anything about it I've tried to make my site's logic
match the topic:section-type-layout.

One of the things that I have wanted, specifically, is the
ability to assign a story to multiple topics (tho I wouldn't want
all the topic's graphics to show up with the story)

  Shane

Re: [Slashcode-development] "Prototype Mismatch" error

[Chris N. <pu...@po...>]

At 10:11 -0500 2001.02.22, Judd Maltin wrote:
>Where do I start?  How can I help progress postgres?

I'll make sure it is fixed on CVS; but until then, please just remove
"PerlModule Compress::Zlib" in slash.conf.  That should fix it.  I don't
know why.

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[Slashcode-development] "Prototype Mismatch" error

[Judd M. <ju...@ma...>]

Salutations,

I'm on RH6.2, running apache1.3.17 and I've gotten QUITE far installing 
bender 1.1.4 with Postgresql.  (only had to add the "author' field to 
"users" database, BTW)

httpd craps out, giving the following error, beyond my ken:

Database handle destroyed without explicit disconnect.
Prototype mismatch: sub Slash::Apache::SlashVirtualUser vs ($$$) at 
/usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.6.0/i686-linux/Slash/Apache.pm line 52.

Where do I start?  How can I help progress postgres?

-judd

[Slashcode-development] Section hierarchy

[CertIndex.com W. <web...@ce...>]

Would anyone be interesed in there being some hierarchy to the sections?

For example, you could have:

Apple > OS X

as 2 sections on your site, OS X being a child section of Apple.

Or to hit closer to home:

Linux > Debian

etc.

I know *sometimes* you could just add another topic, but other times it just
makes no sense.

If you have thought about this feature and would like to see it or have a
hack to provide it, let me know and include any applicable thoughts.

regards

k

[Slashcode-development] Bender/PostgreSQL developers

[CertIndex.com W. <web...@ce...>]

greetings,

I just wanted to know if we were the only people out there working on the
postgresql port of bender. If you're working on it, give a shout. We have
deadlines to meet for launching our site and so if we're the only ones
working on it, we'll probably have to jump ship and use the mysql version
considering Krow has little to no time to fix postgresql port bugs.

Re: [Slashcode-development] developer

[CertIndex.com W. <web...@ce...>]

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Sent: Monday, February 19, 2001 6:17 AM
Subject: Re: [Slashcode-development] developer


> At 03:16 -0800 2000.02.18, CertIndex.com Webmaster wrote:
> >anyone on this list know perl, php, sql, and unix really well? also have
~
> >5+ hours per day available. slash or other weblog experience is optimal.
>
> Is this a job posting?  I am not sure if we should have job postings on
> this list; I don't care that much about it, but most technical lists I am
> on either disallow job postings, or force them to go through a specific
> procedure.  Does anyone have strong feelings about it?
>
> Also, as noted last week, your year is off on your box, Mr. CertIndex.com
> Webmaster.  It is 2001, not 2000.  Please fix it.  Thanks,

Ahh, yea. I'm using a beta version of Windows and it's expired, thus I need
to have my clock set back 1 year so I can still use this computer. When
WinXP beta2 comes out this coming month I'll upgrade to that an then my
clock will be back to normal. Thanks for the notice.

k

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RE: [Slashcode-development] strange apache errors.

[Chris N. <pu...@po...>]

At 06:23 -0500 2001.02.20, Blake Day wrote:
>That is an error from perl's DBI module, nothing to do with the way you
>compiled apache (afaik).  It usually appears when a script abnormally
>terminates without disconnecting from the database server.

>From: sla...@li...
>[mailto:sla...@li...]On Behalf Of
>Wojtek

>>so now apache doesn't die when i run the configurationtests.
>>it dies when i attempt to start httpd, and gives the following error message
>>in the error log:
>>Issuing rollback() for database handle being DESTROY'd without explicit
>>disconne
>>ct().

It is not an error from DBI, it is a warning.  The difference being that an
error means something wrong happened to cause the program to attempt to
exit, while a warning is something that may or may not be something wrong,
and the program will not attempt to terminate because of it.  I say this
only to note that this warning is _not_ a significant problem, and you
shouldn't worry when you see it.  It's just a warning that in itself is not
an indication of any error.

But aside from that, right, this has nothing directly to do with why the
httpd might be dying, and as such doesn't really help us diagnose whatever
problem the httpd might be having.

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RE: [Slashcode-development] strange apache errors.

[Blake D. <bl...@ar...>]

That is an error from perl's DBI module, nothing to do with the way you
compiled apache (afaik).  It usually appears when a script abnormally
terminates without disconnecting from the database server.

Blake Day

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Wojtek
Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2001 6:34 AM
To: sla...@li...
Subject: [Slashcode-development] strange apache errors.


greetings,

i've finally managed to setup php4 + mod_perl together.  what made it work
was using the --with-mysql=/path/to/mysql switch to php's configure.

so now apache doesn't die when i run the configurationtests.
it dies when i attempt to start httpd, and gives the following error message
in the error log:
Issuing rollback() for database handle being DESTROY'd without explicit
disconne
ct().

is this a common problem?  what should i do to fix it?

greetings,
Wojtek

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[Slashcode-development] strange apache errors.

[Wojtek <so...@ne...>]

greetings,

i've finally managed to setup php4 + mod_perl together.  what made it work
was using the --with-mysql=/path/to/mysql switch to php's configure.

so now apache doesn't die when i run the configurationtests.
it dies when i attempt to start httpd, and gives the following error message
in the error log:
Issuing rollback() for database handle being DESTROY'd without explicit disconne
ct().

is this a common problem?  what should i do to fix it?

greetings,
Wojtek

[Slashcode-development] install-slashsite feature request

[Nathan V. <na...@th...>]

I upgraded versions of bender this week and last, and it would be really
great if the install-slashsite script could also upgrade any necessary .pl
files on an existing site without nuking the database (except, what if the
version upgrade necessitates schema or template changes?)

I ran it on an existing site anyway and it reset everything, but that was
fine because there wasn't much there anyhow.

-n

Re: [Slashcode-development] some quick bender questions

[Brian A. <br...@ta...>]

jesse hirsh wrote:
> also, when using the template editor in backslash, is there any way to
> export changes made? essentially i'm wondering about how to start a
> theme in /usr/local/slash/themes
I scp the slashcode theme to a new directory and just removed basically
everything and started adding what I wanted back (with edits). 


> what i was going to do was just cp -a slashcode theme and then reverse
> engineer from there. are directories automatically recognized by the
> slash-install script?
If you do it in the directory that you untar to install slash (so this
would be themes/) the install process will recognize your
theme during the install process. Make sure the directory structure
is similar. I'll be putting together a document on it today.
Same with plugins.

> any thoughts on what the current timeline for development is?
I started using pieces of it as of this weekend on a production
site. We have machines now to move slashcode, so it is a matter
of moving data.

	-Brian

Re: [Slashcode-development] developer

[Chris N. <pu...@po...>]

At 03:16 -0800 2000.02.18, CertIndex.com Webmaster wrote:
>anyone on this list know perl, php, sql, and unix really well? also have ~
>5+ hours per day available. slash or other weblog experience is optimal.

Is this a job posting?  I am not sure if we should have job postings on
this list; I don't care that much about it, but most technical lists I am
on either disallow job postings, or force them to go through a specific
procedure.  Does anyone have strong feelings about it?

Also, as noted last week, your year is off on your box, Mr. CertIndex.com
Webmaster.  It is 2001, not 2000.  Please fix it.  Thanks,

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Re: [Slashcode-development] some quick bender questions

[Chris N. <pu...@po...>]

At 08:02 -0500 2001.02.19, jesse hirsh wrote:
>how might i test out the MAIN2Bender script?
>is it command line? like: MAIN2BENDER old.sql > new.sql
>or something like that?

I haven't used it, but there is a usage() sub (which is apparently never
executed :) in the program that tells you how to use it.


>what about template-tool?

Same thing, except that usage() will be executed if you do not supply any
arguments.


>also, when using the template editor in backslash, is there any way to
>export changes made? essentially i'm wondering about how to start a
>theme in /usr/local/slash/themes

template-tool can save templates to disk.


>what i was going to do was just cp -a slashcode theme and then reverse
>engineer from there. are directories automatically recognized by the
>slash-install script?

I don't know.  Someone needs to write documentation for plugins and themes.


>any thoughts on what the current timeline for development is?

When we think the beta is about ready for release (soon), we will migrate
slashcode.com to Bender.  Then we will use slashcode.com as a guage for
when Bender is ready for release.  Users of the site will help us find
bugs, we will get a good stress-test for the system, etc.  Right now we are
in the process of getting new machines set up for the migration, then we
will start migrating.

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[Slashcode-development] some quick bender questions

[jesse h. <je...@ta...>]

so i spent a good part of the weekend playing with bender.
i've included my apache install notes for anyone interested.

i've got a few quick questions:

how might i test out the MAIN2Bender script?
is it command line? like: MAIN2BENDER old.sql > new.sql
or something like that?

what about template-tool?

also, when using the template editor in backslash, is there any way to
export changes made? essentially i'm wondering about how to start a
theme in /usr/local/slash/themes

what i was going to do was just cp -a slashcode theme and then reverse
engineer from there. are directories automatically recognized by the
slash-install script?

this bender install is just for me to play with, so i don't mind junking
it up, and trying stuff out

any thoughts on what the current timeline for development is?


thanks as always! :)

  8:02am  up 16 days,  9:48,  2 users,  load average: 0.05, 0.11, 0.25

Re: [Slashcode-development] More notes on mod_perl and Apache

[Wojtek <so...@ne...>]

On Sun, Feb 18, 2001 at 01:19:33PM -0800, Brian Aker wrote:
> One other thing that I have discovered is that if you are
> using DSO's and you find that SlashVirtualUser is
> causing your server to core, rebuild all of your
> DSO's with the current version of apache that
> you used to build your httpd.
> 
> 	-Brian
DSO's as in - the .so's contained in the perl library directories (like
DBD/mysql/mysql.so or such) or what?  i compile php4/mod_perl DSOs every time i
reinstall apache.

Wojtek

[Slashcode-development] More notes on mod_perl and Apache

[Brian A. <br...@ta...>]

One other thing that I have discovered is that if you are
using DSO's and you find that SlashVirtualUser is
causing your server to core, rebuild all of your
DSO's with the current version of apache that
you used to build your httpd.

	-Brian
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[Slashcode-development] developer

[CertIndex.com W. <web...@ce...>]

anyone on this list know perl, php, sql, and unix really well? also have ~
5+ hours per day available. slash or other weblog experience is optimal.

Re: [Slashcode-development] Notes on Apache

[Ford P. <hu...@el...>]

On 17 Feb, Brian Aker wrote:
> Wojtek wrote:
>> i've tried everything.  is it at all possible to have both php and
>> slashcode?
> Something is up again with php and mod_perl. Last time
> it was
> solved by statically compiling php and mod_perl together. I willl
> recompile here in a bit and see if that is the case.

I'm running bender here also, with the following:

[Sat Feb 17 03:38:49 2001] [notice] Apache/1.3.17 (Unix) PHP/4.0.4pl1
mod_perl/1.25 mod_ssl/2.8.0 OpenSSL/0.9.6 configured -- resuming normal operations

PHP was compiled as a DSO because I'd forgotten to add it and didn't
feel like recompiling everything; all the rest are compiled in.  Works
like a champ.

Now if I could get the sourceforge code running, I'd be in even better
shape :>


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Re: [Slashcode-development] Notes on Apache

[Brian A. <br...@ta...>]

Wojtek wrote:
> in ALL configurations (php4&mod_perl dynamic, both static, one static one
> dynamic, etc. etc.)
> 
> i've tried everything.  is it at all possible to have both php and slashcode?
Its not slashcode, its just fails right off the bat since we have perl
code
in our startup. Something is up again with php and mod_perl. Last time
it was
solved by statically compiling php and mod_perl together. I willl
recompile here in a bit and see if that is the case.

I would love to blame this on PHP again, but I am not sure at all.
Oh well, if it turns out that it is a problem again I'll just post
another editorial on slashdot and see if they will look into it
again and fix it :)

	-Brian

Re: [Slashcode-development] Notes on Apache

[Wojtek <so...@ne...>]

On Fri, Feb 16, 2001 at 01:29:53PM -0800, Brian Aker wrote:
> I've been playing with compiling DSO and non-DSO based
> modules into Apache tonight. I have found that slash (AKA bender)
> works far more reliably with Apache 1.3.17 and mod_perl 1.25
> then any other version. If you find you are having problems
> and you need DSO support I would suggest upgrading.
> 	-Brian
> -- 
yeah, i have that version of apache and that version of mod_perl plus
i have php4 referenced in http://slashdot.org/apache/00/12/07/0838249.shtml
which supposedly is the latest and should be working in this configuration.

still it dumps core on the line:
SlashVirtualUser myuser

in ALL configurations (php4&mod_perl dynamic, both static, one static one
dynamic, etc. etc.)

i've tried everything.  is it at all possible to have both php and slashcode?

give me a hand here,
greetings,
Wojtek