Re: [Slashcode-development] RFC for Open Story Submission Queueplugin

[elijah w. <el...@st...>]

> > in the absence of that, however, here are some ideas:
> > * submission method modularization (email, http, nntp linkages)
> Um, email submission might be a cool idea....

now that i am not rushing to take garbage to the trash dump (i'm at my
parent's house for the holidays and their garbageman doesn't like large
non-household-trash like Dell boxes...

what i really had in mind wrt nntp was the ability to accept story
submissions via newsgroup crossposting.  basically, to make it really easy
to tie a web frontend to a newsgroup and have selected things migrate out
of the NNTP backend and into the mysql||postgres db.  it might be just as
productive if someone wrote an NNTP+LDAP backend to run alongside slash...
but i'm not volunteering for that :)

> > * administrative override (so that the trolls don't mod up a story as a
> >    prank) 
> Great idea

thanks.  next clarification:  i'd like to have the administratievly
overridden entries stashed somewhere that the users can still get at them
if they want.  obviously there's likely to be a huge mess of such posts;
perhaps use a configurable threshold of space wasted by natalie portman
and grits posts?  10mb or 2500 posts sound like a reasonable backlog?  or
is that too much?  (10MB is peanuts these days, imho...)  it'll take a
hell of a long time before anyone comes close to that with a smallish site
:)


> > * settable limits on the speed with which a story can be modded up before
> >         an automated mechanism decides a bot is doing the modding; logging
> >         of accounts used in this fashion
> 
> Is that really a problem? I think the logging of story moderations by users is a
> good idea.

well, botted posts hit kuro5hin pretty hard last summer.  that was sad.

if story-moderations are not random-selection based (like the slashdot
comment modding) then there needs to be a facility to make sure that an
individual doesn't multiply moderate the story in the queue.  i personally
think it'd be pretty cool to be able to go to the story queue page, see
what's there (as a logged in user, probably) and then vote up everything i
thought was worth seeing.

another brief idea- maybe story moderation is something that some admins
might want to restrict to either logged in users or a subset
usergroup.  that probably needs to be settable with little
trouble.  slashdot, having an established troll community, probably
wouldn't be able to do mass-open-moderation on its story queue.  other
sites might, though.  

authenticated users should always be weighted more heavily than anonymous
users, imho.  maybe that threshold needs to be an algorithm with a tunable
constant for teh difference.  set it to zero to turn it off, perhaps?

how about a moderate-up-a-random-story button that selects from the
stories with at least minimum_number of positive votes? :)

> > * graphing of story-submitters and frequency (libgd-perl is your friend)
> Hmm.........another good idea

someone could probably gut MRTG or simply rig it up to do this.  that
might be a good project even outside of the concept of the story
moderation queue.  it'd be a nice bolt-on.

[a side-thought; i'm only subscribed to this one list.  should i be
brainstorming somewhere else?  or is this a tolerable place for that?]

> I don't know about these others, but one thing I'd like to see or
> perhaps hack out one of these days, is that if you submit a story to a
> section that has extra data, say, book reviews, the user can enter
> those data fields when doing the original post. Right now in Slash
> 1.0.9 I think you can only enter those fields while in the Admin
> area.....

i think that's a really cool idea.  and i appreciate your positive
feedback on my ranting from earlier this afternoon :)  i really like
slashdot but i need it to do some more stuff....  *grin*  i eventually
want to use it as a discussion forum for my students, but it needs a bit
more fine-grained tuning before it'll serve as i like :)

is that extra data stuff something that could be done template-style?

is there a forum where people post things they'd eventually like to see a
slash-like system do?  i occasionally have a wacky plugin idea or
something and it'd be nice to be able to do something with it other than
just sit on it and hope i get un-busy eventually..

~elijah