Re: [SIP-devel] hello & some thoughts

[Ricardo F. <ric...@us...>]

Hi,

I dont have much time to maintain a windows version of SIP. However,
there seems to be recent development activity in switching to the
CMake build system. This should make compiling SIP for windows a lot
simpler.


Best,

On Monday, September 20, 2010, Christophe <so...@ei...> wrote:
>   Hi Ricardo,
>
> Interesting email.
>
> I have switched away from SIP to SIVP, since the SIP toolbox hasn't been
> ported to Windows and scilab 5.0. Do you kow if SIP will be available
> under windows anytime soon. I love the toolbox.
>
> Cheers
>
> On 19/09/2010 13:05, Ricardo Fabbri wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> It has been a while, but I've always kept SIP in mind.  I'd like to
>> share with you some ideas motivating me towards this project. They
>> should also be useful for SIP forks and other similar software:
>>
>> Developing SIP is not only towards generating a final useful toolbox;
>> this development activity can fundamentally be seen as a *fun* way of
>> playing with image processing and computer vision algorithms. I can
>> argue that this Fun is so deep and far-reaching that it has power to
>> revolutionize computer vision as a field - and to make it
>> understandable, to make it more applicable, to popularize it, to teach
>> it, and to develop new methods for it. Ok, that is all beautiful and
>> good and abstract, and so here are some pragmatic ideas from this
>> "Just for Fun"/Torvaldian way of thinking:
>>
>> It would be cool to have SIP be explicitly divided into two:
>>       1) a core SIP which is built by default and should be as stable
>> as possible. This has the universally useful image I/O functionality
>> (imread, imwrite, imshow, imfinfo, ...), and perhaps other
>> easy-to-support stuff.
>>       2) an experimental SIP, which is all the rest of functionality.
>> This should only be enabled by passing an explicit configure flag e.g.
>> :
>>                   ./configure --all_fancy_features
>>
>>
>> The experimental component would take the Just for Fun philosophy to
>> an extreme. More specifically, it would ruthlessly interface to as
>> many external libs as desired (VXL, OpenCV,  Leptonica, LTILib,
>> AnImaL, and so on), without much concern about portability or ease of
>> installation at first.
>>
>> As a developer, it is fun  to write Scilab/scripted interfaces to
>> these external libs as it helps you learn the algorithms and
>> functionalities of these libs, and also helps you have this
>> functionality easily available in a nice easy-to-use environment. You
>> then see your work being used by those power users like adventure and
>> use  the "--fancy_features" functionality, and with time these can
>> even make into 'core'. Note that even if Scilab itself has its own
>> "quirks", that itself actually adds to the fun and can actually lead
>> to different and innovative ways of exploring image processing.
>>
>> Writing Scilab interfaces to these libs or even scilab scripts for the
>> SIP toolbox is also an awesome way not only to explore these
>> algorithms, but also to document them. Each function you write for SIP
>> is documented with a nice interactive example, and can also be part of
>> a demo. That's the other thing, producing demos in Scilab are
>> extremely easy and fun to do once the scripting interface has been
>> built. And having demos just makes computer vision more fun.
>>
>> So out of these purely "just for fun" activities, I believe other good
>> things come as a natural consequence. Naturally, a community starts
>> being built around SIP due to the social culture of free software
>> based on sharing. The computer vision field moves forward. Scilab
>> itself gets better.
>> Image processing courses get more fun to teach and participate. It all
>> works well, as long as we don't start "pretending" SIP is a finished
>> product to be pristinely packaged&  delivered&  supported, but just
>> accepting that above this it is just another way of having fun with
>> algorithms, computers, and vision.
>>
>> PS: This is not just talk.. I hope. I'm installing Scilab + SIP on
>> Ubuntu Lucid&  Mac OS X right now. Join the fun!
>> Ricardo
>>
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Ricardo