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From: Yuan Xu <xuy...@gm...> - 2010-11-08 17:36:02
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Great work! Hedayat, As usual, there are a lot of work to do. I am interested to improve the performance of physic engine, and can help to fix some bugs in soccer rule. BTW, I think we can enable seeing lines in the next release, especially in larger field. -- Best Regards, Xu, Yuan On Sun, Nov 7, 2010 at 12:09 AM, Hedayat Vatankhah <hed...@gm...>wrote: > Hi all! > I've created a draft version of WiKi page for organizing 2011 work of MC[1] > which is based on 2010 page. It'd be nice if you could have a look at it and > add additional info or correct what I wrote. Also, it would be really nice > if you pick up some tasks! > > Specially, there are some bugs listed in the bugs section some of which are > really annoying, so fixing them is greatly appreciated. :) If there are any > other known bugs, please add them to the list. > > Finally, if your name is listed under "Currently Assigned Tasks" section, > please let me know if you are still interested to work on it. > > Looking to hear from you! > Good luck, > Hedayat > > > [1] > http://simspark.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/Maintenance_Committee_2011 > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > The Next 800 Companies to Lead America's Growth: New Video Whitepaper > David G. Thomson, author of the best-selling book "Blueprint to a > Billion" shares his insights and actions to help propel your > business during the next growth cycle. Listen Now! > http://p.sf.net/sfu/SAP-dev2dev > _______________________________________________ > Simspark Generic Physical MAS Simulator > simspark-devel mailing list > sim...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/simspark-devel > > |
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From: Hedayat V. <hed...@gm...> - 2010-11-06 23:40:04
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Hi all!<br>
I've created a draft version of WiKi page for organizing 2011 work
of MC[1] which is based on 2010 page. It'd be nice if you could have
a look at it and add additional info or correct what I wrote. Also,
it would be really nice if you pick up some tasks! <br>
<br>
Specially, there are some bugs listed in the bugs section some of
which are really annoying, so fixing them is greatly appreciated. :)
If there are any other known bugs, please add them to the list. <br>
<br>
Finally, if your name is listed under "Currently Assigned Tasks"
section, please let me know if you are still interested to work on
it. <br>
<br>
Looking to hear from you!<br>
Good luck,<br>
Hedayat<br>
<br>
<br>
[1]
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://simspark.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/Maintenance_Committee_2011">http://simspark.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/Maintenance_Committee_2011</a><br>
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From: Hedayat V. <hed...@gm...> - 2010-11-06 22:59:32
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Hi all (specially veterans!),<br>
One of the items in our wish list which has sit there for a long
time is this: "Replace networking code with sth. like RakkNet"<br>
I'd like to know what are the desired features of the replacement?!
In fact, I'm interested in replacing the current network code with a
code using Boost's Asio; but I'm not sure if it has the desired
properties. I'm thinking about different ways I can finish the
proposed "Agent Proxy" code and one of them is using this library.
So I thought that it might be a good replacement for rcssnet and
decided to ask about the intended properties of the replacement
code.<br>
<br>
Note: Boost Asio has been around since boost 1.37, so I think it is
not too new to be used in the project.<br>
<br>
Thanks,<br>
Hedayat<br>
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From: Drew N. <dre...@ya...> - 2010-09-14 13:11:27
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Hello Huang / Hedayat, I did some work on the wiki a few months ago. If you decide to continue working on the wiki (it is a bit more up-to-date than the TeX in SVN, at least for the User Manual and network/monitor protocols) then I am happy to help with any questions you may have. The wiki is pretty straightforward, however. Drew. ________________________________ From: Hedayat Vatankhah <hed...@ai...> To: Huang Yaolong <air...@gm...> Cc: Simspark Devel ML <sim...@li...> Sent: Tue, 14 September, 2010 13:32:00 Subject: Re: [simspark-devel] MC 2011: Call for participation! Hi Huang, Huang Yaolong <air...@gm...> wrote on 09/14/2010 1:51:27 PM +0450: Hi, Hedayat. > >Recently I have been digging out the implementation details of SimSpark. >And I am always thinking about writing a comprehensive developer >documentation, which covers most of the design and architecture issues >about SimSpark. > >Currently there are only api, how-tos and a very concise developer >documentation. So I want to complete this, which I think will greatly ease >the job of development of agents and maybe the development of SimSpark. :) >So far I am just understand the overall architecture and walk through >Zeitgeist, and I think by writing some documentation will help me >understand some hard issues in it. > That's great. Writing a good developer documentation is one of our important TODO's and we would appreciate any efforts in this area. Is there any deadline for this job, or I just write it by my own then mail it to the mailing list? Any other tips? > No, there is no specific deadline for the documentation and it is essentially an incremental work. But it is not good that you write it fully (which could take a long time) and send the result to us. The most desirable way is to set up and work on the documentation in a public fashion, so that others can benefit from it even when it is incomplete and also others will probably contribute to it. So, the best thing IMHO is to go the same way as the user manual; either start working on the developer documentation in simspark wiki (like ) or start working on it in simspark SVN as latex documentation. Since working in wiki is apparently easier for everybody, maybe working on it in wiki is a better option. BTW, either register in the wiki and initiate the documentation there, or we will give you SVN commit access and start working on the documentation there. You may even decide to do both ;) Thanks a lot and welcome to our Maintenance Committee, Hedayat > >On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 9:07 PM, Hedayat Vatankhah <hed...@ai...> >wrote: > >Hi all! >>We've passed RoboCup 2010, and 2011 competitions is in front of us. >>So, we should organize our MC to push the simulator forward in the >>desired direction. >> >> >>As the first step, I'd like to call everybody, both current MC >>members and all other participants and who are interested in 3D >>league to come along and participate in 2011 development work of the >>simulator. Any contribution, consisting of code, documentation and >>artwork is highly appreciated. The general direction of the >>development of the simulator will be (hopefully ;)) decided by >>Technical Committee with the help of 3D community; but without the >>efforts of MC there will be no progress. >> >> >>We have priorities for development of the simulator, but MC members >>are free to select any of the current tasks they like, or even they >>can propose new features and work on what they prefer (as while as >>it is not in conflict with the general direction). >> >> >>You can find the 2010 plan of MC at [1]. Not all of what have been >>happened in 2010 is reflected in the page, but most of the content >>is valid. Unfortunately, there are many tasks in the list which have >>not been completed in 2010. BTW, we had a good progress in 2010 and >>we are able to play 6 vs 6 games even in single threaded mode and >>overall 2010 progress was nice. But I hope that we can make much >>more progress in 2011. >> >> >>Please let us know about your interest and your plans for >>participating in the simulator development in 2011, so that we can >>setup a new wiki page for 2011! Everybody is invited ;) >> >>Regards, >>Hedayat Vatankhah >> >>[1] http://simspark.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/Maintenance_Committee_2010 >> >> >>------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>Start uncovering the many advantages of virtual appliances >>and start using them to simplify application deployment and >>accelerate your shift to cloud computing >>http://p.sf.net/sfu/novell-sfdev2dev >> >>_______________________________________________ >>Simspark Generic Physical MAS Simulator >>simspark-devel mailing list >>sim...@li... >>https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/simspark-devel >> >> > > >-- >Best regards, >Yaolong Huang(Curtis) > >Tianjin University, China > >Blog: http://blog.csdn.net/airekans/ > |
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From: Hedayat V. <hed...@ai...> - 2010-09-14 12:35:46
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Oops, sorry I forgot the wiki link: <a
class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="http://simspark.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/Developers_Manual">http://simspark.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/Developers_Manual</a><br>
<br>
<span>
<style type="text/css">blockquote {color: navy !important; background-color: RGB(245,245,245) !important; padding: 0 15 10 15 !important; margin: 15 0 0 0; border-left: #1010ff 2px solid;} blockquote blockquote {color: maroon !important; background-color: RGB(235,235,235) !important; border-left-color:maroon !important} blockquote blockquote blockquote {color: green !important; background-color: RGB(225,225,225) !important; border-left-color:teal !important} blockquote blockquote blockquote blockquote {color: purple !important; background-color: RGB(215,215,215) !important; border-left-color: purple !important} blockquote blockquote blockquote blockquote blockquote {color: teal !important; background-color: RGB(205,205,205) !important; border-left-color: green !important}</style><i><b>Hedayat
Vatankhah <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:hed...@ai..."><hed...@ai...></a></b></i>
wrote on 09/14/2010 5:02:00 PM +0450:</span><br>
<blockquote style="color: navy; background-color: rgb(245, 245,
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Hi Huang,<br>
<br>
<span>
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Yaolong <a moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:air...@gm..."><air...@gm...></a></b></i>
wrote on 09/14/2010 1:51:27 PM +0450:</span><br>
<blockquote style="color: navy; background-color: rgb(245, 245,
245); padding-left: 15px; border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16,
255);"
cite="mid:AANLkTikbj4=P8x...@ma..."
type="cite">Hi, Hedayat.<br>
<br>
Recently I have been digging out the implementation details of
SimSpark. And I am always thinking about writing a comprehensive
developer documentation, which covers most of the design and
architecture issues about SimSpark. <br>
Currently there are only api, how-tos and a very concise
developer documentation. So I want to complete this, which I
think will greatly ease the job of development of agents and
maybe the development of SimSpark. :)<br>
So far I am just understand the overall architecture and walk
through Zeitgeist, and I think by writing some documentation
will help me understand some hard issues in it.<br>
</blockquote>
That's great. Writing a good developer documentation is one of our
important TODO's and we would appreciate any efforts in this area.<br>
<br>
<blockquote style="color: navy; background-color: rgb(245, 245,
245); padding-left: 15px; border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16,
255);"
cite="mid:AANLkTikbj4=P8x...@ma..."
type="cite"> Is there any deadline for this job, or I just write
it by my own then mail it to the mailing list? Any other tips?<br>
</blockquote>
No, there is no specific deadline for the documentation and it is
essentially an incremental work. But it is not good that you write
it fully (which could take a long time) and send the result to us.
The most desirable way is to set up and work on the documentation
in a public fashion, so that others can benefit from it even when
it is incomplete and also others will probably contribute to it.
So, the best thing IMHO is to go the same way as the user manual;
either start working on the developer documentation in simspark
wiki (like ) or start working on it in simspark SVN as latex
documentation. <br>
Since working in wiki is apparently easier for everybody, maybe
working on it in wiki is a better option. <br>
BTW, either register in the wiki and initiate the documentation
there, or we will give you SVN commit access and start working on
the documentation there. You may even decide to do both ;)<br>
<br>
Thanks a lot and welcome to our Maintenance Committee,<br>
Hedayat<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<blockquote style="color: navy; background-color: rgb(245, 245,
245); padding-left: 15px; border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16,
255);"
cite="mid:AANLkTikbj4=P8x...@ma..."
type="cite"> <br>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 9:07 PM,
Hedayat Vatankhah <span dir="ltr"><<a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:hed...@ai...">hed...@ai...</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
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rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left:
1ex;">
<div style="direction: ltr;" bgcolor="#ffffff"
text="#000000"> Hi all!<br>
We've passed RoboCup 2010, and 2011 competitions is in
front of us. So, we should organize our MC to push the
simulator forward in the desired direction. <br>
<br>
As the first step, I'd like to call everybody, both
current MC members and all other participants and who are
interested in 3D league to come along and participate in
2011 development work of the simulator. Any contribution,
consisting of code, documentation and artwork is highly
appreciated. The general direction of the development of
the simulator will be (hopefully ;)) decided by Technical
Committee with the help of 3D community; but without the
efforts of MC there will be no progress. <br>
<br>
We have priorities for development of the simulator, but
MC members are free to select any of the current tasks
they like, or even they can propose new features and work
on what they prefer (as while as it is not in conflict
with the general direction). <br>
<br>
You can find the 2010 plan of MC at [1]. Not all of what
have been happened in 2010 is reflected in the page, but
most of the content is valid. Unfortunately, there are
many tasks in the list which have not been completed in
2010. BTW, we had a good progress in 2010 and we are able
to play 6 vs 6 games even in single threaded mode and
overall 2010 progress was nice. But I hope that we can
make much more progress in 2011. <br>
<br>
Please let us know about your interest and your plans for
participating in the simulator development in 2011, so
that we can setup a new wiki page for 2011! Everybody is
invited ;)<br>
<br>
Regards,<br>
Hedayat Vatankhah<br>
<br>
[1] <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://simspark.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/Maintenance_Committee_2010"
target="_blank">http://simspark.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/Maintenance_Committee_2010</a><br>
<br>
</div>
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------------------------------------------------------------------------------<br>
Start uncovering the many advantages of virtual appliances<br>
and start using them to simplify application deployment and<br>
accelerate your shift to cloud computing<br>
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href="http://p.sf.net/sfu/novell-sfdev2dev"
target="_blank">http://p.sf.net/sfu/novell-sfdev2dev</a><br>
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_______________________________________________<br>
Simspark Generic Physical MAS Simulator<br>
simspark-devel mailing list<br>
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href="mailto:sim...@li...">sim...@li...</a><br>
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href="https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/simspark-devel"
target="_blank">https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/simspark-devel</a><br>
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<br>
<br clear="all">
<br>
-- <br>
Best regards,<br>
Yaolong Huang(Curtis)<br>
<br>
Tianjin University, China<br>
<br>
Blog: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://blog.csdn.net/airekans/">http://blog.csdn.net/airekans/</a><br>
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From: Hedayat V. <hed...@ai...> - 2010-09-14 12:32:47
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Hi Huang,<br>
<br>
<span>
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Yaolong <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:air...@gm..."><air...@gm...></a></b></i>
wrote on 09/14/2010 1:51:27 PM +0450:</span><br>
<blockquote style="color: navy; background-color: rgb(245, 245,
245); padding-left: 15px; border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16,
255);"
cite="mid:AANLkTikbj4=P8x...@ma..."
type="cite">Hi, Hedayat.<br>
<br>
Recently I have been digging out the implementation details of
SimSpark. And I am always thinking about writing a comprehensive
developer documentation, which covers most of the design and
architecture issues about SimSpark. <br>
Currently there are only api, how-tos and a very concise developer
documentation. So I want to complete this, which I think will
greatly ease the job of development of agents and maybe the
development of SimSpark. :)<br>
So far I am just understand the overall architecture and walk
through Zeitgeist, and I think by writing some documentation will
help me understand some hard issues in it.<br>
</blockquote>
That's great. Writing a good developer documentation is one of our
important TODO's and we would appreciate any efforts in this area.<br>
<br>
<blockquote style="color: navy; background-color: rgb(245, 245,
245); padding-left: 15px; border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16,
255);"
cite="mid:AANLkTikbj4=P8x...@ma..."
type="cite"> Is there any deadline for this job, or I just write
it by my own then mail it to the mailing list? Any other tips?<br>
</blockquote>
No, there is no specific deadline for the documentation and it is
essentially an incremental work. But it is not good that you write
it fully (which could take a long time) and send the result to us.
The most desirable way is to set up and work on the documentation in
a public fashion, so that others can benefit from it even when it is
incomplete and also others will probably contribute to it. So, the
best thing IMHO is to go the same way as the user manual; either
start working on the developer documentation in simspark wiki (like
) or start working on it in simspark SVN as latex documentation. <br>
Since working in wiki is apparently easier for everybody, maybe
working on it in wiki is a better option. <br>
BTW, either register in the wiki and initiate the documentation
there, or we will give you SVN commit access and start working on
the documentation there. You may even decide to do both ;)<br>
<br>
Thanks a lot and welcome to our Maintenance Committee,<br>
Hedayat<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<blockquote style="color: navy; background-color: rgb(245, 245,
245); padding-left: 15px; border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16,
255);"
cite="mid:AANLkTikbj4=P8x...@ma..."
type="cite"> <br>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 9:07 PM, Hedayat
Vatankhah <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:hed...@ai...">hed...@ai...</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid
rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left:
1ex;">
<div style="direction: ltr;" bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000">
Hi all!<br>
We've passed RoboCup 2010, and 2011 competitions is in front
of us. So, we should organize our MC to push the simulator
forward in the desired direction. <br>
<br>
As the first step, I'd like to call everybody, both current
MC members and all other participants and who are interested
in 3D league to come along and participate in 2011
development work of the simulator. Any contribution,
consisting of code, documentation and artwork is highly
appreciated. The general direction of the development of the
simulator will be (hopefully ;)) decided by Technical
Committee with the help of 3D community; but without the
efforts of MC there will be no progress. <br>
<br>
We have priorities for development of the simulator, but MC
members are free to select any of the current tasks they
like, or even they can propose new features and work on what
they prefer (as while as it is not in conflict with the
general direction). <br>
<br>
You can find the 2010 plan of MC at [1]. Not all of what
have been happened in 2010 is reflected in the page, but
most of the content is valid. Unfortunately, there are many
tasks in the list which have not been completed in 2010.
BTW, we had a good progress in 2010 and we are able to play
6 vs 6 games even in single threaded mode and overall 2010
progress was nice. But I hope that we can make much more
progress in 2011. <br>
<br>
Please let us know about your interest and your plans for
participating in the simulator development in 2011, so that
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Hi all!<br>
We've passed RoboCup 2010, and 2011 competitions is in front of us.
So, we should organize our MC to push the simulator forward in the
desired direction. <br>
<br>
As the first step, I'd like to call everybody, both current MC
members and all other participants and who are interested in 3D
league to come along and participate in 2011 development work of the
simulator. Any contribution, consisting of code, documentation and
artwork is highly appreciated. The general direction of the
development of the simulator will be (hopefully ;)) decided by
Technical Committee with the help of 3D community; but without the
efforts of MC there will be no progress. <br>
<br>
We have priorities for development of the simulator, but MC members
are free to select any of the current tasks they like, or even they
can propose new features and work on what they prefer (as while as
it is not in conflict with the general direction). <br>
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You can find the 2010 plan of MC at [1]. Not all of what have been
happened in 2010 is reflected in the page, but most of the content
is valid. Unfortunately, there are many tasks in the list which have
not been completed in 2010. BTW, we had a good progress in 2010 and
we are able to play 6 vs 6 games even in single threaded mode and
overall 2010 progress was nice. But I hope that we can make much
more progress in 2011. <br>
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Please let us know about your interest and your plans for
participating in the simulator development in 2011, so that we can
setup a new wiki page for 2011! Everybody is invited ;)<br>
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Regards,<br>
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From: Hedayat V. <hed...@ai...> - 2010-06-27 15:35:25
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Hi,<br>
There is a problem in your installation. Please remove the old versions
of both simspark and rcssserver3d completely, and then install latest
version of simspark and then rcssserver3d. Also, it is better to remove
your ~/.simspark directory too.<br>
<br>
Good luck,<br>
Hedayat<br>
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Razeghi <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:raz...@gm..."><raz...@gm...></a></b></i> wrote on 06/26/2010 9:00:41
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style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">I
install rcssserver3d but when I want run it I've got below error<br>
could you help me?<br>
<br>
/ronin@linux-nwe5:~> rcssserver3d<br>
(ScriptServer) Running /usr/local/share/simspark//zeitgeist.rb...<br>
(ScriptServer) updating cached script variables<br>
(ScriptServer) Script ended OK /usr/local/share/simspark//zeitgeist.rb<br>
(ScriptServer) Running /usr/local/share/simspark//oxygen.rb...<br>
(ScriptServer) updating cached script variables<br>
(ScriptServer) Script ended OK /usr/local/share/simspark//oxygen.rb<br>
(ScriptServer) Running /home/ronin/.simspark/kerosin.rb...<br>
(ScriptServer) updating cached script variables<br>
(ScriptServer) Script ended OK /home/ronin/.simspark/kerosin.rb<br>
(ScriptServer) Running /usr/local/share/simspark//spark.rb...<br>
(spark.rb) setup<br>
(SharedLibrary) ERROR: dlopen failed for odeimps with:<br>
� � � �/usr/local/share/simspark/Contents/plugins/odeimps.so: cannot<br>
open shared object file: No such file or<br>
directory<br>
<br>
(Core) ERROR: Could not open<br>
'odeimps'<br>
<br>
(spark.rb) using ODE, to change the physics engine go to line 559 in<br>
spark.rb<br>
(Core) caught signal<br>
11<br>
<br>
(Core) dumping 33 stack<br>
frames.<br>
<br>
[0]<br>
/usr/local/lib/simspark/libzeitgeist.so.3(zeitgeist::Core::CatchSignal(int)+0xd0)<br>
[0xb774e0f0]<br>
??<br>
<br>
??:0<br>
<br>
<br>
[1] [0xffffe400]<br>
??<br>
??:0<br>
<br>
[2]<br>
/usr/local/lib/simspark/liboxygen.so.4(oxygen::PhysicsServer::OnLink()+0x26)<br>
[0xb76b6026]<br>
??<br>
<br>
??:0<br>
<br>
<br>
[3]<br>
/usr/local/lib/simspark/libzeitgeist.so.3(zeitgeist::Leaf::SetParent(boost::shared_ptr<zeitgeist::Node><br>
const&)+0x554)<br>
[0xb7756ca4]<br>
<br>
??<br>
<br>
??:0<br>
<br>
<br>
[4]<br>
/usr/local/lib/simspark/libzeitgeist.so.3(zeitgeist::Node::AddChildReference(boost::shared_ptr<zeitgeist::Leaf><br>
const&)+0xf1)<br>
[0xb775ee51]<br>
<br>
??<br>
<br>
??:0<br>
<br>
<br>
[5]<br>
/usr/local/lib/simspark/libzeitgeist.so.3(zeitgeist::CoreContext::Install(boost::shared_ptr<zeitgeist::Leaf><br>
const&, std::basic_string<char, std::char_traits<char>,<br>
std::allocator<char> > const&, bool)+0x2ea) [0xb775526a]<br>
??<br>
<br>
??:0<br>
<br>
<br>
[6]<br>
/usr/local/lib/simspark/libzeitgeist.so.3(zeitgeist::CoreContext::New(std::basic_string<char,<br>
std::char_traits<char>, std::allocator<char> >
const&,<br>
std::basic_string<char, std::char_traits<char>,
std::allocator<char> ><br>
const&)+0x69)<br>
[0xb7755449]<br>
<br>
??<br>
<br>
??:0<br>
<br>
<br>
[7] /usr/local/lib/simspark/libzeitgeist.so.3(newObject(unsigned long,<br>
unsigned long, unsigned long)+0x85)<br>
[0xb776ea55]<br>
<br>
??<br>
<br>
??:0<br>
<br>
<br>
[8] /usr/lib/libruby.so.1.8 [0xb7227112]<br>
??<br>
??:0<br>
<br>
[9] /usr/lib/libruby.so.1.8 [0xb723220e]<br>
??<br>
??:0<br>
<br>
[10] /usr/lib/libruby.so.1.8 [0xb72323c9]<br>
??<br>
??:0<br>
<br>
[11] /usr/lib/libruby.so.1.8 [0xb722f392]<br>
??<br>
??:0<br>
<br>
[12] /usr/lib/libruby.so.1.8 [0xb722cfd5]<br>
??<br>
??:0<br>
<br>
[13] /usr/lib/libruby.so.1.8 [0xb72320a9]<br>
??<br>
??:0<br>
<br>
[14] /usr/lib/libruby.so.1.8 [0xb72323c9]<br>
??<br>
??:0<br>
<br>
[15] /usr/lib/libruby.so.1.8 [0xb722f392]<br>
??<br>
??:0<br>
<br>
[16] /usr/lib/libruby.so.1.8 [0xb722cfd5]<br>
??<br>
??:0<br>
<br>
[17] /usr/lib/libruby.so.1.8 [0xb72320a9]<br>
??<br>
??:0<br>
<br>
[18] /usr/lib/libruby.so.1.8 [0xb72323c9]<br>
??<br>
??:0<br>
<br>
[19] /usr/lib/libruby.so.1.8 [0xb722f392]<br>
??<br>
??:0<br>
<br>
[20] /usr/lib/libruby.so.1.8 [0xb723dde8]<br>
??<br>
??:0<br>
<br>
[21] /usr/lib/libruby.so.1.8(rb_eval_string+0x70) [0xb723e800]<br>
??<br>
??:0<br>
<br>
[22] /usr/lib/libruby.so.1.8(rb_protect+0x119) [0xb7228c39]<br>
??<br>
??:0<br>
<br>
[23] /usr/lib/libruby.so.1.8(rb_eval_string_protect+0x2d) [0xb7228c6d]<br>
??<br>
??:0<br>
<br>
[24]<br>
/usr/local/lib/simspark/libzeitgeist.so.3(zeitgeist::RbEvalStringWrap(std::basic_string<char,<br>
std::char_traits<char>, std::allocator<char> >
const&, int&)+0x2b)<br>
[0xb776a42b]<br>
??<br>
<br>
??:0<br>
<br>
<br>
[25]<br>
/usr/local/lib/simspark/libzeitgeist.so.3(zeitgeist::ScriptServer::Eval(std::basic_string<char,<br>
std::char_traits<char>, std::allocator<char> >
const&)+0x24)<br>
[0xb776a764]<br>
??<br>
<br>
??:0<br>
<br>
<br>
[26]<br>
/usr/local/lib/simspark/libzeitgeist.so.3(zeitgeist::ScriptServer::Run(boost::shared_ptr<salt::RFile>)+0x8d)<br>
[0xb776d84d]<br>
<br>
??<br>
<br>
??:0<br>
<br>
<br>
[27]<br>
/usr/local/lib/simspark/libzeitgeist.so.3(zeitgeist::ScriptServer::RunInitScriptInternal(std::basic_string<char,<br>
std::char_traits<char>, std::allocator<char> >
const&,<br>
std::basic_string<char, std::char_traits<char>,
std::allocator<char> ><br>
const&, bool, std::basic_string<char,
std::char_traits<char>,<br>
std::allocator<char> > const&)+0x1e1) [0xb776dad1]<br>
??<br>
??:0<br>
<br>
[28]<br>
/usr/local/lib/simspark/libzeitgeist.so.3(zeitgeist::ScriptServer::RunInitScript(std::basic_string<char,<br>
std::char_traits<char>, std::allocator<char> >
const&,<br>
std::basic_string<char, std::char_traits<char>,
std::allocator<char> ><br>
const&, zeitgeist::ScriptServer::EInitScriptType)+0x12c)
[0xb776f1dc]<br>
??<br>
??:0<br>
<br>
[29] /usr/local/lib/simspark/libspark.so.0(spark::Spark::Init(int,<br>
char**)+0x84) [0xb778f5c4]<br>
??<br>
??:0<br>
<br>
[30] rcssserver3d(main+0x93) [0x80497f3]<br>
main<br>
??:0<br>
<br>
[31] /lib/libc.so.6(__libc_start_main+0xfe) [0xb731face]<br>
??<br>
??:0<br>
<br>
[32] rcssserver3d [0x80493a1]<br>
_start<br>
/usr/src/packages/BUILD/glibc-2.10.1/csu/../sysdeps/i386/elf/start.S:122<br>
<br>
(Core) exit<br>
/<br>
Best Regards<br>
� �Esmaeil Mirzaee(ronin3d)<br>
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I have exactly the same problem on arch linux .� could anyone help
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From: Mohammad R. <raz...@gm...> - 2010-06-26 13:01:07
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Hi All > I install rcssserver3d but when I want run it I've got below error > could you help me? > > /ronin@linux-nwe5:~> rcssserver3d > (ScriptServer) Running /usr/local/share/simspark//zeitgeist.rb... > (ScriptServer) updating cached script variables > (ScriptServer) Script ended OK /usr/local/share/simspark//zeitgeist.rb > (ScriptServer) Running /usr/local/share/simspark//oxygen.rb... > (ScriptServer) updating cached script variables > (ScriptServer) Script ended OK /usr/local/share/simspark//oxygen.rb > (ScriptServer) Running /home/ronin/.simspark/kerosin.rb... > (ScriptServer) updating cached script variables > (ScriptServer) Script ended OK /home/ronin/.simspark/kerosin.rb > (ScriptServer) Running /usr/local/share/simspark//spark.rb... > (spark.rb) setup > (SharedLibrary) ERROR: dlopen failed for odeimps with: > /usr/local/share/simspark/Contents/plugins/odeimps.so: cannot > open shared object file: No such file or > directory > > (Core) ERROR: Could not open > 'odeimps' > > (spark.rb) using ODE, to change the physics engine go to line 559 in > spark.rb > (Core) caught signal > 11 > > (Core) dumping 33 stack > frames. > > [0] > > /usr/local/lib/simspark/libzeitgeist.so.3(zeitgeist::Core::CatchSignal(int)+0xd0) > [0xb774e0f0] > ?? > > ??:0 > > > [1] [0xffffe400] > ?? > ??:0 > > [2] > > /usr/local/lib/simspark/liboxygen.so.4(oxygen::PhysicsServer::OnLink()+0x26) > [0xb76b6026] > ?? > > ??:0 > > > [3] > > /usr/local/lib/simspark/libzeitgeist.so.3(zeitgeist::Leaf::SetParent(boost::shared_ptr<zeitgeist::Node> > const&)+0x554) > [0xb7756ca4] > > ?? > > ??:0 > > > [4] > > /usr/local/lib/simspark/libzeitgeist.so.3(zeitgeist::Node::AddChildReference(boost::shared_ptr<zeitgeist::Leaf> > const&)+0xf1) > [0xb775ee51] > > ?? > > ??:0 > > > [5] > > /usr/local/lib/simspark/libzeitgeist.so.3(zeitgeist::CoreContext::Install(boost::shared_ptr<zeitgeist::Leaf> > const&, std::basic_string<char, std::char_traits<char>, > std::allocator<char> > const&, bool)+0x2ea) [0xb775526a] > ?? > > ??:0 > > > [6] > > /usr/local/lib/simspark/libzeitgeist.so.3(zeitgeist::CoreContext::New(std::basic_string<char, > std::char_traits<char>, std::allocator<char> > const&, > std::basic_string<char, std::char_traits<char>, std::allocator<char> > > const&)+0x69) > [0xb7755449] > > ?? > > ??:0 > > > [7] /usr/local/lib/simspark/libzeitgeist.so.3(newObject(unsigned long, > unsigned long, unsigned long)+0x85) > [0xb776ea55] > > ?? > > ??:0 > > > [8] /usr/lib/libruby.so.1.8 [0xb7227112] > ?? > ??:0 > > [9] /usr/lib/libruby.so.1.8 [0xb723220e] > ?? > ??:0 > > [10] /usr/lib/libruby.so.1.8 [0xb72323c9] > ?? > ??:0 > > [11] /usr/lib/libruby.so.1.8 [0xb722f392] > ?? > ??:0 > > [12] /usr/lib/libruby.so.1.8 [0xb722cfd5] > ?? > ??:0 > > [13] /usr/lib/libruby.so.1.8 [0xb72320a9] > ?? > ??:0 > > [14] /usr/lib/libruby.so.1.8 [0xb72323c9] > ?? > ??:0 > > [15] /usr/lib/libruby.so.1.8 [0xb722f392] > ?? > ??:0 > > [16] /usr/lib/libruby.so.1.8 [0xb722cfd5] > ?? > ??:0 > > [17] /usr/lib/libruby.so.1.8 [0xb72320a9] > ?? > ??:0 > > [18] /usr/lib/libruby.so.1.8 [0xb72323c9] > ?? > ??:0 > > [19] /usr/lib/libruby.so.1.8 [0xb722f392] > ?? > ??:0 > > [20] /usr/lib/libruby.so.1.8 [0xb723dde8] > ?? > ??:0 > > [21] /usr/lib/libruby.so.1.8(rb_eval_string+0x70) [0xb723e800] > ?? > ??:0 > > [22] /usr/lib/libruby.so.1.8(rb_protect+0x119) [0xb7228c39] > ?? > ??:0 > > [23] /usr/lib/libruby.so.1.8(rb_eval_string_protect+0x2d) [0xb7228c6d] > ?? > ??:0 > > [24] > > /usr/local/lib/simspark/libzeitgeist.so.3(zeitgeist::RbEvalStringWrap(std::basic_string<char, > std::char_traits<char>, std::allocator<char> > const&, int&)+0x2b) > [0xb776a42b] > ?? > > ??:0 > > > [25] > > /usr/local/lib/simspark/libzeitgeist.so.3(zeitgeist::ScriptServer::Eval(std::basic_string<char, > std::char_traits<char>, std::allocator<char> > const&)+0x24) > [0xb776a764] > ?? > > ??:0 > > > [26] > > /usr/local/lib/simspark/libzeitgeist.so.3(zeitgeist::ScriptServer::Run(boost::shared_ptr<salt::RFile>)+0x8d) > [0xb776d84d] > > ?? > > ??:0 > > > [27] > > /usr/local/lib/simspark/libzeitgeist.so.3(zeitgeist::ScriptServer::RunInitScriptInternal(std::basic_string<char, > std::char_traits<char>, std::allocator<char> > const&, > std::basic_string<char, std::char_traits<char>, std::allocator<char> > > const&, bool, std::basic_string<char, std::char_traits<char>, > std::allocator<char> > const&)+0x1e1) [0xb776dad1] > ?? > ??:0 > > [28] > > /usr/local/lib/simspark/libzeitgeist.so.3(zeitgeist::ScriptServer::RunInitScript(std::basic_string<char, > std::char_traits<char>, std::allocator<char> > const&, > std::basic_string<char, std::char_traits<char>, std::allocator<char> > > const&, zeitgeist::ScriptServer::EInitScriptType)+0x12c) [0xb776f1dc] > ?? > ??:0 > > [29] /usr/local/lib/simspark/libspark.so.0(spark::Spark::Init(int, > char**)+0x84) [0xb778f5c4] > ?? > ??:0 > > [30] rcssserver3d(main+0x93) [0x80497f3] > main > ??:0 > > [31] /lib/libc.so.6(__libc_start_main+0xfe) [0xb731face] > ?? > ??:0 > > [32] rcssserver3d [0x80493a1] > _start > /usr/src/packages/BUILD/glibc-2.10.1/csu/../sysdeps/i386/elf/start.S:122 > > (Core) exit > / > Best Regards > Esmaeil Mirzaee(ronin3d) > I have exactly the same problem on arch linux . could anyone help please ? Thanks , |
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From: Drew N. <dre...@ya...> - 2010-06-26 09:05:39
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Hi Samuel, By all means, if you find an area of the wiki that could be improved by perhaps adding more information, questioning things that seem incorrect, updating examples/screenshots, or even removing duplicated information, go for it! If you're new to the project, then you have a unique perspective on the documentation. What would have been easier for you, or more useful, while you were learning SimSpark/rcssserver3d? Also, every article on the wiki has its own discussion page upon which questions or half-baked ideas can be posted, if you don't think they're ready or appropriate for the main article just yet. Some ideas for areas of the wiki that could be improved: * The screen shots on this page are a bit out of date, for example http://simspark.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/Running_a_Simulation. They show the old Soccerbot model. The actual images should have replacements uploaded. Unfortunately I've been messing around with the textures and models in my simulator, so mine looks even less like the current release! * Another area that could be improved is visibility on ideas and improvements in the pipeline for the project. This page currently links to four other pages, each of which have some kind of todo list on them. It might be nice to pull all these into one area, and invite people to discuss/add/endorse there. Perhaps there's an issue tracker for this already, but wikis are still amenable to this if the volume isn't too great. * We could add a Hall of Fame that shows which teams placed in previous competitions. * Several pages have TODO markers that indicate places where the documentation could be improved. You could try and answer some of these, and even add your own in places where you think it isn't clear. Unfortunately searching the Wiki for TODO returns the page with that name, so you can use Google: http://www.google.com/search?q=site:simspark.sourceforge.net+TODO I realised as I wrote this that the list should probably go on the wiki iteself, so check this page for ideas to solve, or add your own: http://simspark.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/Todo Have fun! Drew. ________________________________ From: Samuel Russell <ro...@ho...> To: Joschka Boedecker <jos...@am...> Cc: Drew Noakes <dr...@dr...>; sse...@li...; sim...@li... Sent: Sat, 26 June, 2010 2:25:11 Subject: Re: [Sserver-three-d] [simspark-devel] Documentation Hi Drew I'm new in 3d simulation but if you need some help you can count on me, It's my pleasure to assist you. And thanks for your improve WIKI page. Best Regards Esmaeil Mirzaee(ronin3d) |
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From: Samuel R. <ro...@ho...> - 2010-06-25 16:25:53
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Hi all
I install rcssserver3d but when I want run it I've got below error
could you help me?
/ronin@linux-nwe5:~> rcssserver3d
(ScriptServer) Running /usr/local/share/simspark//zeitgeist.rb...
(ScriptServer) updating cached script variables
(ScriptServer) Script ended OK /usr/local/share/simspark//zeitgeist.rb
(ScriptServer) Running /usr/local/share/simspark//oxygen.rb...
(ScriptServer) updating cached script variables
(ScriptServer) Script ended OK /usr/local/share/simspark//oxygen.rb
(ScriptServer) Running /home/ronin/.simspark/kerosin.rb...
(ScriptServer) updating cached script variables
(ScriptServer) Script ended OK /home/ronin/.simspark/kerosin.rb
(ScriptServer) Running /usr/local/share/simspark//spark.rb...
(spark.rb) setup
(SharedLibrary) ERROR: dlopen failed for odeimps with:
/usr/local/share/simspark/Contents/plugins/odeimps.so: cannot
open shared object file: No such file or
directory
(Core) ERROR: Could not open
'odeimps'
(spark.rb) using ODE, to change the physics engine go to line 559 in
spark.rb
(Core) caught signal
11
(Core) dumping 33 stack
frames.
[0]
/usr/local/lib/simspark/libzeitgeist.so.3(zeitgeist::Core::CatchSignal(int)+0xd0)
[0xb774e0f0]
??
??:0
[1] [0xffffe400]
??
??:0
[2]
/usr/local/lib/simspark/liboxygen.so.4(oxygen::PhysicsServer::OnLink()+0x26)
[0xb76b6026]
??
??:0
[3]
/usr/local/lib/simspark/libzeitgeist.so.3(zeitgeist::Leaf::SetParent(boost::shared_ptr<zeitgeist::Node>
const&)+0x554)
[0xb7756ca4]
??
??:0
[4]
/usr/local/lib/simspark/libzeitgeist.so.3(zeitgeist::Node::AddChildReference(boost::shared_ptr<zeitgeist::Leaf>
const&)+0xf1)
[0xb775ee51]
??
??:0
[5]
/usr/local/lib/simspark/libzeitgeist.so.3(zeitgeist::CoreContext::Install(boost::shared_ptr<zeitgeist::Leaf>
const&, std::basic_string<char, std::char_traits<char>,
std::allocator<char> > const&, bool)+0x2ea) [0xb775526a]
??
??:0
[6]
/usr/local/lib/simspark/libzeitgeist.so.3(zeitgeist::CoreContext::New(std::basic_string<char,
std::char_traits<char>, std::allocator<char> > const&,
std::basic_string<char, std::char_traits<char>, std::allocator<char> >
const&)+0x69)
[0xb7755449]
??
??:0
[7] /usr/local/lib/simspark/libzeitgeist.so.3(newObject(unsigned long,
unsigned long, unsigned long)+0x85)
[0xb776ea55]
??
??:0
[8] /usr/lib/libruby.so.1.8 [0xb7227112]
??
??:0
[9] /usr/lib/libruby.so.1.8 [0xb723220e]
??
??:0
[10] /usr/lib/libruby.so.1.8 [0xb72323c9]
??
??:0
[11] /usr/lib/libruby.so.1.8 [0xb722f392]
??
??:0
[12] /usr/lib/libruby.so.1.8 [0xb722cfd5]
??
??:0
[13] /usr/lib/libruby.so.1.8 [0xb72320a9]
??
??:0
[14] /usr/lib/libruby.so.1.8 [0xb72323c9]
??
??:0
[15] /usr/lib/libruby.so.1.8 [0xb722f392]
??
??:0
[16] /usr/lib/libruby.so.1.8 [0xb722cfd5]
??
??:0
[17] /usr/lib/libruby.so.1.8 [0xb72320a9]
??
??:0
[18] /usr/lib/libruby.so.1.8 [0xb72323c9]
??
??:0
[19] /usr/lib/libruby.so.1.8 [0xb722f392]
??
??:0
[20] /usr/lib/libruby.so.1.8 [0xb723dde8]
??
??:0
[21] /usr/lib/libruby.so.1.8(rb_eval_string+0x70) [0xb723e800]
??
??:0
[22] /usr/lib/libruby.so.1.8(rb_protect+0x119) [0xb7228c39]
??
??:0
[23] /usr/lib/libruby.so.1.8(rb_eval_string_protect+0x2d) [0xb7228c6d]
??
??:0
[24]
/usr/local/lib/simspark/libzeitgeist.so.3(zeitgeist::RbEvalStringWrap(std::basic_string<char,
std::char_traits<char>, std::allocator<char> > const&, int&)+0x2b)
[0xb776a42b]
??
??:0
[25]
/usr/local/lib/simspark/libzeitgeist.so.3(zeitgeist::ScriptServer::Eval(std::basic_string<char,
std::char_traits<char>, std::allocator<char> > const&)+0x24)
[0xb776a764]
??
??:0
[26]
/usr/local/lib/simspark/libzeitgeist.so.3(zeitgeist::ScriptServer::Run(boost::shared_ptr<salt::RFile>)+0x8d)
[0xb776d84d]
??
??:0
[27]
/usr/local/lib/simspark/libzeitgeist.so.3(zeitgeist::ScriptServer::RunInitScriptInternal(std::basic_string<char,
std::char_traits<char>, std::allocator<char> > const&,
std::basic_string<char, std::char_traits<char>, std::allocator<char> >
const&, bool, std::basic_string<char, std::char_traits<char>,
std::allocator<char> > const&)+0x1e1) [0xb776dad1]
??
??:0
[28]
/usr/local/lib/simspark/libzeitgeist.so.3(zeitgeist::ScriptServer::RunInitScript(std::basic_string<char,
std::char_traits<char>, std::allocator<char> > const&,
std::basic_string<char, std::char_traits<char>, std::allocator<char> >
const&, zeitgeist::ScriptServer::EInitScriptType)+0x12c) [0xb776f1dc]
??
??:0
[29] /usr/local/lib/simspark/libspark.so.0(spark::Spark::Init(int,
char**)+0x84) [0xb778f5c4]
??
??:0
[30] rcssserver3d(main+0x93) [0x80497f3]
main
??:0
[31] /lib/libc.so.6(__libc_start_main+0xfe) [0xb731face]
??
??:0
[32] rcssserver3d [0x80493a1]
_start
/usr/src/packages/BUILD/glibc-2.10.1/csu/../sysdeps/i386/elf/start.S:122
(Core) exit
/
Best Regards
Esmaeil Mirzaee(ronin3d)
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From: Samuel R. <ro...@ho...> - 2010-06-25 16:25:37
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Hi Drew
I'm new in 3d simulation but if you need some help you can count on me,
It's my pleasure to assist you.
And thanks for your improve WIKI page.
Best Regards
Esmaeil Mirzaee(ronin3d)
On 06/25/2010 12:22 PM, Joschka Boedecker wrote:
> Hi Drew,
>
> On Jun 24, 2010, at 1:23 PM, Drew Noakes wrote:
>
>
>> While some of you have been enjoying yourselves in Singapore (thanks for posting the log files!), I've been programming my own agent and refining the wiki documentation further. Hopefully I can make it to RoboCup next year.
>>
>>
> Thank you very much for putting all that information into the Wiki! I didn't have time to look at everything in detail yet, but it looks like you did a great job. I like the way in which you grouped things on the main page making the relevant information accessible quickly. Also, it's great to have everything cross-referenced, and of course, to have updated information and relevant Todos.
>
>
>> Also, I am trying to find out what sorts of MediaWiki extensions are available to us on the SourceForge Wiki, but I don't think non-admins are able to do that. Is it possible to set me up as an admin for the wiki?
>>
> Sure. Please let me know your SourceForge login name, and I'll add you as a developer with shell and SVN access. This way, you can also add features to the code base that you feel are missing ;-) Shell access will let you install new things for the Wiki I think.
>
>
>> Primarily I would like to find a way to embed video (some of the match videos are really fun to see) and make the code sample font a standard size as code looks very small on my computer. I'd also like to try Simon Raffeiner's idea about collating a Wikibook for offline viewing.
>>
>>
> Sounds very good.
>
>
>> Monitor
>>
>> There's a page for monitors. It now has a list of key commands available for rcssmonitor3d. I recall from the mailing list that there are some new key commands, but I can't find the email. If someone remembers, could they update the page?
>>
>>
> Sander should know this best, but he'll probably need some time to recover from organizing the event in Singapore ;-)
>
> @Sander: Congratulations by the way for running a successful and exciting event! I enjoyed the logfiles a lot.
>
>
>> Monitor Protocol
>>
>> A new page containing information about messages sent and received on port 3200. The information came in part from the PDF Joschka sent, and in part from reading the source code. I put this page together while writing my own monitor client for a machine learning exercise, so I know it's at least detailed enough to do that.
>>
>>
> Great!
>
>
>> There's quite a lot of new stuff on the wiki now.
>>
> Indeed.
>
>
>> If you have time, please have a look and send through your feedback or just make changes directly. As the Wikipedia folks say, Be Bold!
>>
>>
> I second that :-)
>
> Thanks again, your work is much appreciated!
>
> Cheers,
> Joschka
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From: Joschka B. <jos...@am...> - 2010-06-25 07:52:57
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Hi Drew, On Jun 24, 2010, at 1:23 PM, Drew Noakes wrote: > > While some of you have been enjoying yourselves in Singapore (thanks for posting the log files!), I've been programming my own agent and refining the wiki documentation further. Hopefully I can make it to RoboCup next year. > Thank you very much for putting all that information into the Wiki! I didn't have time to look at everything in detail yet, but it looks like you did a great job. I like the way in which you grouped things on the main page making the relevant information accessible quickly. Also, it's great to have everything cross-referenced, and of course, to have updated information and relevant Todos. > Also, I am trying to find out what sorts of MediaWiki extensions are available to us on the SourceForge Wiki, but I don't think non-admins are able to do that. Is it possible to set me up as an admin for the wiki? Sure. Please let me know your SourceForge login name, and I'll add you as a developer with shell and SVN access. This way, you can also add features to the code base that you feel are missing ;-) Shell access will let you install new things for the Wiki I think. > Primarily I would like to find a way to embed video (some of the match videos are really fun to see) and make the code sample font a standard size as code looks very small on my computer. I'd also like to try Simon Raffeiner's idea about collating a Wikibook for offline viewing. > Sounds very good. > > Monitor > > There's a page for monitors. It now has a list of key commands available for rcssmonitor3d. I recall from the mailing list that there are some new key commands, but I can't find the email. If someone remembers, could they update the page? > Sander should know this best, but he'll probably need some time to recover from organizing the event in Singapore ;-) @Sander: Congratulations by the way for running a successful and exciting event! I enjoyed the logfiles a lot. > > Monitor Protocol > > A new page containing information about messages sent and received on port 3200. The information came in part from the PDF Joschka sent, and in part from reading the source code. I put this page together while writing my own monitor client for a machine learning exercise, so I know it's at least detailed enough to do that. > Great! > > There's quite a lot of new stuff on the wiki now. Indeed. > If you have time, please have a look and send through your feedback or just make changes directly. As the Wikipedia folks say, Be Bold! > I second that :-) Thanks again, your work is much appreciated! Cheers, Joschka |
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From: Drew N. <dre...@ya...> - 2010-06-24 04:23:12
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Hello all, While some of you have been enjoying yourselves in Singapore (thanks for posting the log files!), I've been programming my own agent and refining the wiki documentation further. Hopefully I can make it to RoboCup next year. Also, I am trying to find out what sorts of MediaWiki extensions are available to us on the SourceForge Wiki, but I don't think non-admins are able to do that. Is it possible to set me up as an admin for the wiki? Primarily I would like to find a way to embed video (some of the match videos are really fun to see) and make the code sample font a standard size as code looks very small on my computer. I'd also like to try Simon Raffeiner's idea about collating a Wikibook for offline viewing. I apologise to those who receive this twice. I am cross-posting as the documentation applies to both lists. Monitor There's a page for monitors. It now has a list of key commands available for rcssmonitor3d. I recall from the mailing list that there are some new key commands, but I can't find the email. If someone remembers, could they update the page? http://simspark.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/Monitor Monitor Protocol A new page containing information about messages sent and received on port 3200. The information came in part from the PDF Joschka sent, and in part from reading the source code. I put this page together while writing my own monitor client for a machine learning exercise, so I know it's at least detailed enough to do that. http://simspark.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/Network_Protocol#Server.2FMonitor_Communication There are still a few TODO markers on the page. It would be great if anyone is keen to address some of them. Log Files A new, small, page devoted to recording and playing log files, and links to competition log archives. I've added the URL for 2010, but if other archives exist out there, please update the table: http://simspark.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/Log_Files There's quite a lot of new stuff on the wiki now. If you have time, please have a look and send through your feedback or just make changes directly. As the Wikipedia folks say, Be Bold! All the best, Drew. |
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From: Drew N. <dre...@ya...> - 2010-06-17 08:32:14
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The bulk of the work has been done in porting the documentation across to the Wiki. I have broken it up into what felt like sensible topics to me, and I'm open to alternative ideas. I've spent a while going through trying to cross-reference articles to increase visibility of the new content for visitors. There is some information on this page that shows what new pages were created, and what sections of the PDF I didn't port over because they seemed out of date or particular to a paper document. http://simspark.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/Users_Manual#Wiki_Version I have also left several TODO markers accompanied by short questions on a few pages. Much of the documentation was out of date and it would be great to have more experienced people read it through. I still have to reconcile my errata. I'll do that soon. Also Joschka, I took a screenshot of a diagram that was included in your SIMPAR paper and included it on the wiki. I can remove it if it doesn't have the appropriate license for use on the wiki. Apologies, but that only crossed my mind after I'd joyfully copied your work! I've made a quick job of putting more content on the main page under slightly different groupings. Any feedback, good or bad, is appreciated. http://simspark.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/Main_Page > We should also document that it is possible to run agents as plugins directly in the simulator process... This has been done. > ...about two years ago Carlos Bustamante was kind enough to document the monitor protocol further... That PDF is a great start, but it only covers messages from the server to the monitor. I am particularly interested in those messages that I can send to the server on port 3200 in order to perform machine learning. Any pointers to information on that would be great. All the best, Drew. ________________________________ From: Joschka Boedecker <jos...@am...> To: Drew Noakes <dr...@dr...> Cc: 3D Server ML <sse...@li...>; Simspark Devel ML <sim...@li...>; Richard Keely <rc...@gm...> Sent: Tue, 15 June, 2010 11:04:08 Subject: Re: [simspark-devel] [Sserver-three-d] Documentation and wikis Hi Drew and all, On Jun 14, 2010, at 11:47 PM, Drew Noakes wrote: > > I'll get started in the next day or so. Excellent! > No doubt I'll have many questions, so I'll add them to the wiki itself and ask people more knowledgeable than me to fill in the blanks. > OK, sounds good. > I saw somewhere a task along the lines of "update TeX files with TEXT_INSTEAD_OF_A_MANUAL". Does this text file represent the most up-to-date information? I will be sure to draw from all sources I can find, but if there are conflicts I'd like to know which source is more authoritative. > The TEXT_INSTEAD_OF_A_MANUAL file was used as the basis for the user manual. However, not all of the information made it into the tex files (we planned a server developer's manual that was supposed to contain some of that information, see also below). So I guess in places where there is overlap, the manual should be more recent. > Also, does anyone have any documentation about the monitor protocol? Part of it is documented in the TEXT_INSTEAD_OF_A_MANUAL. In addition, about two years ago Carlos Bustamante was kind enough to document the monitor protocol further. Unfortunately, the information never made it into the manual (it was supposed to go into the developer's manual, but so far, we haven't gotten started on that one yet :-( ). You can find his draft at [1]. It might be incomplete, and possibly slightly out of date, but it's a good start. > If not then I will reverse it from TrainerCommandParser. I was going to ask the list whether it would be possible to add the ability to position the ball exactly for machine learning purposes, only to find mention of this interface in a changelog somewhere. It'd be great to have it detailed on the wiki. > If I'm not mistaken, it is also described in the TEXT_INSTEAD_OF_A_MANUAL file. We should also document that it is possible to run agents as plugins directly in the simulator process, with no network communication required (example is given in the soccerbotbehavior in rcssserver3d/plugin/soccer/agentintegration). This should also be interesting for machine learning and debugging purposes, and it might be another one of those useful but not very well known features of the simulator. I mention it in the overview paper I wrote for the SIMPAR 2008 workshop [2], but that might be its only mention I'm afraid. Just as a general note, not directly concerning the documentation, I wanted to let people know that we have started development on the integration of the Bullet physics engine into the simulator as an alternative to ODE. My colleague Richard Keely has kindly taken on that task, and I'll try to assist. Best regards, Joschka [1] http://jeap-res.ams.eng.osaka-u.ac.jp/~joschka/simspark/monitorprotocol.pdf [2] http://monicareggiani.net/simpar2008/RoboCupSimulators/SIMPAR_simspark.pdf |
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From: Joschka B. <jos...@am...> - 2010-06-15 01:04:17
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Hi Drew and all, On Jun 14, 2010, at 11:47 PM, Drew Noakes wrote: > > I'll get started in the next day or so. Excellent! > No doubt I'll have many questions, so I'll add them to the wiki itself and ask people more knowledgeable than me to fill in the blanks. > OK, sounds good. > I saw somewhere a task along the lines of "update TeX files with TEXT_INSTEAD_OF_A_MANUAL". Does this text file represent the most up-to-date information? I will be sure to draw from all sources I can find, but if there are conflicts I'd like to know which source is more authoritative. > The TEXT_INSTEAD_OF_A_MANUAL file was used as the basis for the user manual. However, not all of the information made it into the tex files (we planned a server developer's manual that was supposed to contain some of that information, see also below). So I guess in places where there is overlap, the manual should be more recent. > Also, does anyone have any documentation about the monitor protocol? Part of it is documented in the TEXT_INSTEAD_OF_A_MANUAL. In addition, about two years ago Carlos Bustamante was kind enough to document the monitor protocol further. Unfortunately, the information never made it into the manual (it was supposed to go into the developer's manual, but so far, we haven't gotten started on that one yet :-( ). You can find his draft at [1]. It might be incomplete, and possibly slightly out of date, but it's a good start. > If not then I will reverse it from TrainerCommandParser. I was going to ask the list whether it would be possible to add the ability to position the ball exactly for machine learning purposes, only to find mention of this interface in a changelog somewhere. It'd be great to have it detailed on the wiki. > If I'm not mistaken, it is also described in the TEXT_INSTEAD_OF_A_MANUAL file. We should also document that it is possible to run agents as plugins directly in the simulator process, with no network communication required (example is given in the soccerbotbehavior in rcssserver3d/plugin/soccer/agentintegration). This should also be interesting for machine learning and debugging purposes, and it might be another one of those useful but not very well known features of the simulator. I mention it in the overview paper I wrote for the SIMPAR 2008 workshop [2], but that might be its only mention I'm afraid. Just as a general note, not directly concerning the documentation, I wanted to let people know that we have started development on the integration of the Bullet physics engine into the simulator as an alternative to ODE. My colleague Richard Keely has kindly taken on that task, and I'll try to assist. Best regards, Joschka [1] http://jeap-res.ams.eng.osaka-u.ac.jp/~joschka/simspark/monitorprotocol.pdf [2] http://monicareggiani.net/simpar2008/RoboCupSimulators/SIMPAR_simspark.pdf |
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From: Drew N. <dre...@ya...> - 2010-06-14 14:47:18
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Hi Joschka,
I'll get started in the next day or so. No doubt I'll have many questions, so I'll add them to the wiki itself and ask people more knowledgeable than me to fill in the blanks.
I saw somewhere a task along the lines of "update TeX files with TEXT_INSTEAD_OF_A_MANUAL". Does this text file represent the most up-to-date information? I will be sure to draw from all sources I can find, but if there are conflicts I'd like to know which source is more authoritative.
Also, does anyone have any documentation about the monitor protocol? If not then I will reverse it from TrainerCommandParser. I was going to ask the list whether it would be possible to add the ability to position the ball exactly for machine learning purposes, only to find mention of this interface in a changelog somewhere. It'd be great to have it detailed on the wiki.
Drew.
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From: Joschka Boedecker <jos...@am...>
To: Drew Noakes <dr...@dr...>
Cc: Simspark Devel ML <sim...@li...>; sse...@li...
Sent: Mon, 14 June, 2010 20:27:19
Subject: Re: [simspark-devel] [Sserver-three-d] Documentation and wikis
Hi Drew,
thanks a lot for your contributions, and for taking the initiative on this issue.
On Jun 14, 2010, at 2:43 PM, Drew Noakes wrote:
>
>I've had a few off-list emails in support of wiki based documentation and, as yet, nothing against the idea. I'm new to this group and not someone who should be deciding this kind of thing, so please if you do reply, do so to the group.
I think having the manual in the Wiki would be great! We could still have a nice PDF version every once in a while, but focus on the Wiki which should be easier to keep up to date.
Would you be willing to go ahead and start this? I'm sure people will help once the first pages are there, but it's always good if someone takes the lead.
Cheers,
Joschka
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From: Joschka B. <jos...@am...> - 2010-06-14 10:27:31
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Hi Drew, thanks a lot for your contributions, and for taking the initiative on this issue. On Jun 14, 2010, at 2:43 PM, Drew Noakes wrote: > > I've had a few off-list emails in support of wiki based documentation and, as yet, nothing against the idea. I'm new to this group and not someone who should be deciding this kind of thing, so please if you do reply, do so to the group. I think having the manual in the Wiki would be great! We could still have a nice PDF version every once in a while, but focus on the Wiki which should be easier to keep up to date. Would you be willing to go ahead and start this? I'm sure people will help once the first pages are there, but it's always good if someone takes the lead. Cheers, Joschka |
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From: Drew N. <dre...@ya...> - 2010-06-14 05:43:59
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Hi Simon, That looks like a very sensible way to deal with the printing/offline issue. In which case, I would revise the pros of using PDF documentation with TeX as: * Can (sort of) edit offline > It looks bad compared to a properly formated TeX document, and there is no Index, but it works. I think we might be able to create and index using a devoted page. And there's no way it'll look as good at a TeX document, but as you say the wiki uses different formatting for printable versions. Here's an example: http://simspark.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php?title=Users_Manual&printable=yes I've had a few off-list emails in support of wiki based documentation and, as yet, nothing against the idea. I'm new to this group and not someone who should be deciding this kind of thing, so please if you do reply, do so to the group. Drew. ________________________________ From: Simon Raffeiner <sra...@st...> To: sim...@li...; Drew Noakes <dr...@dr...> Cc: Peter Stone <ps...@cs...>; sse...@li... Sent: Mon, 14 June, 2010 5:21:10 Subject: Re: [simspark-devel] [Sserver-three-d] Documentation and wikis Sehr geehrter Drew Noakes, Am Sonntag 13 Juni 2010 19:12:18 schrieben Sie: > * Can be printed. > * Can be viewed offline. That's actually possible with a Wiki too, just look at how WikiBooks is doing it: http://en.wikibooks.org/w/index.php?title=Wikijunior:Big_Cats/Complete_Edition&action=edit This is a special page which includes all other pages as chapters into a single document when viewed, and can then be printed - also into a PDF file. The MediaWiki CSS style will automatically remove the Wiki decorations (menu, logo etc.) if the page is printed. It looks bad compared to a properly formated TeX document, and there is no Index, but it works. -- mit freundlichen Grüßen/regards/cordiali saluti Simon Raffeiner University of Applied Sciences Offenburg, Germany Department of Computer Science, RoboCup Team |
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From: Drew N. <dre...@ya...> - 2010-06-14 03:44:07
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> I agree that a wiki would be useful for this, but I'll let the rest of the community chime in. I look forward to hearing people's ideas. > Will you be at the competition in Singapore next week? Sadly not. I have the time, but my passport is locked away in a consulate along with a visa application. The Japan Open matches were streamed live via www.ustream.tv. Will that be the case from Singapore? ________________________________ From: Peter Stone <ps...@cs...> To: Drew Noakes <dr...@dr...> Cc: sse...@li...; sim...@li... Sent: Mon, 14 June, 2010 3:46:15 Subject: Re: [Sserver-three-d] Documentation and wikis Drew, I agree that a wiki would be useful for this, but I'll let the rest of the community chime in. Will you be at the competition in Singapore next week? If so, that would be a great time to have this conversation in real time and with all the relevant people involved... Peter |
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From: Simon R. <sra...@st...> - 2010-06-13 19:22:10
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Sehr geehrter Drew Noakes, Am Sonntag 13 Juni 2010 19:12:18 schrieben Sie: > * Can be printed. > * Can be viewed offline. That's actually possible with a Wiki too, just look at how WikiBooks is doing it: http://en.wikibooks.org/w/index.php?title=Wikijunior:Big_Cats/Complete_Edition&action=edit This is a special page which includes all other pages as chapters into a single document when viewed, and can then be printed - also into a PDF file. The MediaWiki CSS style will automatically remove the Wiki decorations (menu, logo etc.) if the page is printed. It looks bad compared to a properly formated TeX document, and there is no Index, but it works. -- mit freundlichen Grüßen/regards/cordiali saluti Simon Raffeiner University of Applied Sciences Offenburg, Germany Department of Computer Science, RoboCup Team |
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From: Peter S. <ps...@cs...> - 2010-06-13 17:46:29
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Drew,
I agree that a wiki would be useful for this, but I'll let the rest of
the community chime in.
Will you be at the competition in Singapore next week? If so, that
would be a great time to have this conversation in real time and with
all the relevant people involved...
Peter
>
>
> One question I've been pondering is whether a TeX-generated PDF is really the best medium for the bulk of the documentation
> when compared to a wiki. Here are the pros of each that I've come up with.
>
>
>
> PDF
>
>
>
> * Can be printed.
>
> * Can be viewed offline.
>
> * Fidelity of vector-based diagrams.
>
>
>
> Wiki
>
>
>
> * Editing is very easy, and only a click away when reading an article.
>
> * Doesn't require post-edit compilation and release.
>
> * Doesn't require commit access to the source code to make changes to the documentation.
>
> * Everyone is always looking at the head version (I spent four weeks looking at an out-of-date PDF I found
> online). History is one click away and bad edits can easily be rolled back.
>
> * Hyperlinking: within document / outside-in / inside-out.
>
> * In situ discussion tabs for questions and ideas that sometimes result in quality improvements.
>
> * More readily indexable by search engines, increasing project visibility.
>
> * Wiki syntax is simpler than TeX.
>
> * Can embed video from YouTube/vimeo/etc (I think the Wiki supports this).
>
> * Support for translation into multiple languages (I think the Wiki supports this).
>
>
>
> I am happy to spend a day carrying the content of the TeX files and images over to the Wiki if people agree this would be a
> good thing to do. As you say, documentation does tend to lag behind development, but if a larger audience of documenters
> are facilitated by a wiki, then the lag should be reduced and the quality and depth improved.
>
>
>
> Drew.
>
>
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> From: Peter Stone <ps...@cs...>
> To: Drew Noakes <dr...@dr...>
> Cc: sse...@li...; sim...@li...
> Sent: Mon, 14 June, 2010 2:44:06
> Subject: Re: [Sserver-three-d] Documentation and wikis
> Drew,
> Thank you very much for taking the time to document that.
> Documentation always lags development, and having a newcomer document
> difficulties at getting up to speed is always a valuble resource.
> I hope the league can incorporate all of your suggestions quickly and
> accurately.
> Cheers,
> Peter
> >
> > Hello all,
> >
> >
> >
> > I'm new to these lists, having only discovered the 3D Simulation League in April after visiting the Japan Open RoboCup
> > event in Osaka. Since then I've spent countless hours learning what's required to make my own agent. Great fun.
> >
> >
> >
> > I found that there was some room to improve the public documentation of SimSpark and RoboCup 3D. I have made a bunch of
> > edits to various wikis and would really appreciate if people more experienced that me would review them for accuracy.
> >
> >
> >
> > Firstly, the Wikipedia page RoboCup Simulation League exclusively covered the 2D sub-league. I moved that content to a
> new
> > page and created another for the 3D sub-league. The previous page now links to these two new pages. I also fleshed out
> > the SimSpark page.
> >
> >
> >
> > * [[[[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RoboCup_Simulation_League]]]]
> >
> > * [[[[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RoboCup_2D_Soccer_Simulation_League]]]]
> >
> > * [[[[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RoboCup_3D_Soccer_Simulation_League]]]]
> >
> > * [[[[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SimSpark]]]]
> >
> >
> >
> > On the SimSpark wiki I created a new page devoted to agent authoring. It contains a table of open source agents and
> > base-code libraries. Please add any that are missing.
> >
> >
> >
> > * [[[[http://simspark.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/Agents]]]]
> >
> >
> >
> > In programming my own agent, I kept a list of where the SimSpark user manual was confusing, incomplete or possibly
> > wrong. There's a new section beneath the User Manual download link on the wiki that lists these points:
> >
> >
> >
> > * [[[[http://simspark.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/Users_Manual]]]]
> >
> >
> >
> > Please take the time to review these pages for accuracy. Please make any changes directly, or discuss ideas for
> > improvement on the relevant article's discussion page.
> >
> >
> >
> > For a full list of the changes I've made (there are other minor ones not listed above), see:
> >
> >
> >
> > * [[[[http://simspark.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/Special:Contributions/Drewnoakes]]]]
> >
> > * [[[[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Drewnoakes]]]]
> >
> >
> >
> > It is my hope that these additions to Wikipedia and the SimSpark wiki will help extend the reach of these great projects
> as
> > well as make it even easier for people to start programming their own agents. My sincere thanks to everyone who has
> > contributed to SimSpark/rcssserver3d.
> >
> >
> >
> > Kind regards,
> >
> >
> >
> > Drew.
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > ThinkGeek and WIRED's GeekDad team up for the Ultimate
> > GeekDad Father's Day Giveaway. ONE MASSIVE PRIZE to the
> > lucky parental unit. See the prize list and enter to win:
> > [[http://p.sf.net/sfu/thinkgeek-promo_______________________________________________]]
> > Sserver-three-d mailing list
> > [[Sse...@li...]]
> > [[https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/sserver-three-d]]
>
>
>
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From: Drew N. <dre...@ya...> - 2010-06-13 17:12:25
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One question I've been pondering is whether a TeX-generated PDF is really the best medium for the bulk of the documentation when compared to a wiki. Here are the pros of each that I've come up with.
PDF
* Can be printed.
* Can be viewed offline.
* Fidelity of vector-based diagrams.
Wiki
* Editing is very easy, and only a click away when reading an article.
* Doesn't require post-edit compilation and release.
* Doesn't require commit access to the source code to make changes to the documentation.
* Everyone is always looking at the head version (I spent four weeks looking at an out-of-date PDF I found online). History is one click away and bad edits can easily be rolled back.
* Hyperlinking: within document / outside-in / inside-out.
* In situ discussion tabs for questions and ideas that sometimes result in quality improvements.
* More readily indexable by search engines, increasing project visibility.
* Wiki syntax is simpler than TeX.
* Can embed video from YouTube/vimeo/etc (I think the Wiki supports this).
* Support for translation into multiple languages (I think the Wiki supports this).
I am happy to spend a day carrying the content of the TeX files and images over to the Wiki if people agree this would be a good thing to do. As you say, documentation does tend to lag behind development, but if a larger audience of documenters are facilitated by a wiki, then the lag should be reduced and the quality and depth improved.
Drew.
________________________________
From: Peter Stone <ps...@cs...>
To: Drew Noakes <dr...@dr...>
Cc: sse...@li...; sim...@li...
Sent: Mon, 14 June, 2010 2:44:06
Subject: Re: [Sserver-three-d] Documentation and wikis
Drew,
Thank you very much for taking the time to document that.
Documentation always lags development, and having a newcomer document
difficulties at getting up to speed is always a valuble resource.
I hope the league can incorporate all of your suggestions quickly and
accurately.
Cheers,
Peter
>
> Hello all,
>
>
>
> I'm new to these lists, having only discovered the 3D Simulation League in April after visiting the Japan Open RoboCup
> event in Osaka. Since then I've spent countless hours learning what's required to make my own agent. Great fun.
>
>
>
> I found that there was some room to improve the public documentation of SimSpark and RoboCup 3D. I have made a bunch of
> edits to various wikis and would really appreciate if people more experienced that me would review them for accuracy.
>
>
>
> Firstly, the Wikipedia page RoboCup Simulation League exclusively covered the 2D sub-league. I moved that content to a new
> page and created another for the 3D sub-league. The previous page now links to these two new pages. I also fleshed out
> the SimSpark page.
>
>
>
> * [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RoboCup_Simulation_League]]
>
> * [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RoboCup_2D_Soccer_Simulation_League]]
>
> * [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RoboCup_3D_Soccer_Simulation_League]]
>
> * [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SimSpark]]
>
>
>
> On the SimSpark wiki I created a new page devoted to agent authoring. It contains a table of open source agents and
> base-code libraries. Please add any that are missing.
>
>
>
> * [[http://simspark.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/Agents]]
>
>
>
> In programming my own agent, I kept a list of where the SimSpark user manual was confusing, incomplete or possibly
> wrong. There's a new section beneath the User Manual download link on the wiki that lists these points:
>
>
>
> * [[http://simspark.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/Users_Manual]]
>
>
>
> Please take the time to review these pages for accuracy. Please make any changes directly, or discuss ideas for
> improvement on the relevant article's discussion page.
>
>
>
> For a full list of the changes I've made (there are other minor ones not listed above), see:
>
>
>
> * [[http://simspark.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/Special:Contributions/Drewnoakes]]
>
> * [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Drewnoakes]]
>
>
>
> It is my hope that these additions to Wikipedia and the SimSpark wiki will help extend the reach of these great projects as
> well as make it even easier for people to start programming their own agents. My sincere thanks to everyone who has
> contributed to SimSpark/rcssserver3d.
>
>
>
> Kind regards,
>
>
>
> Drew.
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> ThinkGeek and WIRED's GeekDad team up for the Ultimate
> GeekDad Father's Day Giveaway. ONE MASSIVE PRIZE to the
> lucky parental unit. See the prize list and enter to win:
> http://p.sf.net/sfu/thinkgeek-promo_______________________________________________
> Sserver-three-d mailing list
> Sse...@li...
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/sserver-three-d
|
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From: Peter S. <ps...@cs...> - 2010-06-13 16:44:18
|
Drew, Thank you very much for taking the time to document that. Documentation always lags development, and having a newcomer document difficulties at getting up to speed is always a valuble resource. I hope the league can incorporate all of your suggestions quickly and accurately. Cheers, Peter > > Hello all, > > > > I'm new to these lists, having only discovered the 3D Simulation League in April after visiting the Japan Open RoboCup > event in Osaka. Since then I've spent countless hours learning what's required to make my own agent. Great fun. > > > > I found that there was some room to improve the public documentation of SimSpark and RoboCup 3D. I have made a bunch of > edits to various wikis and would really appreciate if people more experienced that me would review them for accuracy. > > > > Firstly, the Wikipedia page RoboCup Simulation League exclusively covered the 2D sub-league. I moved that content to a new > page and created another for the 3D sub-league. The previous page now links to these two new pages. I also fleshed out > the SimSpark page. > > > > * [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RoboCup_Simulation_League]] > > * [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RoboCup_2D_Soccer_Simulation_League]] > > * [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RoboCup_3D_Soccer_Simulation_League]] > > * [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SimSpark]] > > > > On the SimSpark wiki I created a new page devoted to agent authoring. It contains a table of open source agents and > base-code libraries. Please add any that are missing. > > > > * [[http://simspark.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/Agents]] > > > > In programming my own agent, I kept a list of where the SimSpark user manual was confusing, incomplete or possibly > wrong. There's a new section beneath the User Manual download link on the wiki that lists these points: > > > > * [[http://simspark.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/Users_Manual]] > > > > Please take the time to review these pages for accuracy. Please make any changes directly, or discuss ideas for > improvement on the relevant article's discussion page. > > > > For a full list of the changes I've made (there are other minor ones not listed above), see: > > > > * [[http://simspark.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/Special:Contributions/Drewnoakes]] > > * [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Drewnoakes]] > > > > It is my hope that these additions to Wikipedia and the SimSpark wiki will help extend the reach of these great projects as > well as make it even easier for people to start programming their own agents. My sincere thanks to everyone who has > contributed to SimSpark/rcssserver3d. > > > > Kind regards, > > > > Drew. > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > ThinkGeek and WIRED's GeekDad team up for the Ultimate > GeekDad Father's Day Giveaway. ONE MASSIVE PRIZE to the > lucky parental unit. See the prize list and enter to win: > http://p.sf.net/sfu/thinkgeek-promo_______________________________________________ > Sserver-three-d mailing list > Sse...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/sserver-three-d |
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From: Drew N. <dre...@ya...> - 2010-06-13 16:26:20
|
Hello all, I'm new to these lists, having only discovered the 3D Simulation League in April after visiting the Japan Open RoboCup event in Osaka. Since then I've spent countless hours learning what's required to make my own agent. Great fun. I found that there was some room to improve the public documentation of SimSpark and RoboCup 3D. I have made a bunch of edits to various wikis and would really appreciate if people more experienced that me would review them for accuracy. Firstly, the Wikipedia page RoboCup Simulation League exclusively covered the 2D sub-league. I moved that content to a new page and created another for the 3D sub-league. The previous page now links to these two new pages. I also fleshed out the SimSpark page. * http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RoboCup_Simulation_League * http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RoboCup_2D_Soccer_Simulation_League * http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RoboCup_3D_Soccer_Simulation_League * http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SimSpark On the SimSpark wiki I created a new page devoted to agent authoring. It contains a table of open source agents and base-code libraries. Please add any that are missing. * http://simspark.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/Agents In programming my own agent, I kept a list of where the SimSpark user manual was confusing, incomplete or possibly wrong. There's a new section beneath the User Manual download link on the wiki that lists these points: * http://simspark.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/Users_Manual Please take the time to review these pages for accuracy. Please make any changes directly, or discuss ideas for improvement on the relevant article's discussion page. For a full list of the changes I've made (there are other minor ones not listed above), see: * http://simspark.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/Special:Contributions/Drewnoakes * http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Drewnoakes It is my hope that these additions to Wikipedia and the SimSpark wiki will help extend the reach of these great projects as well as make it even easier for people to start programming their own agents. My sincere thanks to everyone who has contributed to SimSpark/rcssserver3d. Kind regards, Drew. |
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