Re: [simspark-devel] Moving to a kinder project hosting service?!

[Simon R. <sra...@st...>]

Am Montag 08 Februar 2010 10:07:01 am schrieb Hedayat Vatankhah:

> But considering the large number of Iranians participating in RoboCup, 
> the recent act of sf.net to block Iranians is really irritating; and is 
> IMHO (notice that I'm Iranian ;) ) unacceptable specially that it is not 
> a US product!

Salam Hedayat,

sadly it's not just SourceForge, but also Google Code and Fedora Hosted. After the alleged Google attacks and recent "predictions" about cyber attacks by the USA authorities I expect the list of blocked countries to grow, maybe they'll even add China or Russia.

We had a lot of controversy about it here in Germany, and I have some very strong opinions about the whole thing, but since this is not the place for political ranting I'll just express my full support for the move to a different hosting service. 


> So, I would like to know your opinions about moving 
> simspark/rcssserver3d to a different project hosting service (e.g. 
> BerliOS, SourceForge.jp) which doesn't impose such restrictions (and 
> preferably is not a USA based service provider).

BerliOS had multiple security breaches in recent years (http://cyberinsecure.com/berlios-open-source-project-portal-hacked-and-defaced/), and their management team doesn't really seem to care.


> As a side note, IF we decided to move to a new project hosting service 
> provider, we could also consider moving from using Subversion to Git, 
> which seems to be better than Subversion in many ways.

Many open-source projects already completed the move to CMake and git, so I don't see a problem. Most users will probably just have to replace "svn checkout" with "git clone". There even is a shiny TortoiseGit GUI for Windows users.


> But I'm not a 
> hard proponent of this move, specially that it'll need contributors to 
> get used to a new system. Even without moving to git, it is possible to 
> use git-svn by those who prefer it. We might even consider other 
> versioning systems.

The only viable one that comes to mind would be Bazar, but I don't think there are many hosting providers around supporting it (besides Launchpad, which is again hosted in the USA).

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mit freundlichen Grüßen/regards
Simon Raffeiner

University of Applied Sciences Offenburg, Germany
Department of Computer Science, RoboCup Team