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Re: [simspark-devel] Nao model
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From: Daniel P. <d.p...@he...> - 2009-03-05 12:43:43
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Hi, Aldebaran seemed quite concerned with the appearance of the robot, in fact more so than on the technical specs. Question to the MC: will a detailed modeling of the appearance affect simulation performance? A second issue is the following: we need to be careful that the requirements of the simulation league are not necessarily dictated by the exact technical specifications where this is not yet relevant. Of course, in the course of years we want to converge to model the actual Nao, but we need to be careful that our scientific goals are dictated by what we want and are able to do this year in terms of scientific challenge. - Daniel Sahar Asadi writes: > Hi, > > In Suzhou, I talked with one of the guys from Aldebaran and he gave me his > contact info. He was positive and said they can provide us more details for > improving our model. I wanted to link Feng Xue to him but meanwhile I became > so busy and I forgot. I will send you the contact information. I really > apologize for forgetting this issue. > > > Best, > Sahar > > On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 7:29 AM, Peter Stone <ps...@cs...> wrote: > > > > > Hi all, > > > > I'll email my contact at Aldebaran to ask how they would like to > > proceed, and will report back. > > > > I'll try to set it up so that there can be direct contact between > > Aldebaran and the MC. > > > > Best, > > Peter > > > > > > > > > > On 05/03/2009, at 5:11 AM, Sander van Dijk wrote: > > > > > > > Hello MC, OC, TC, executive and trustee, > > > > > > > > There is an issue that we have to resolve before the competitions in > > > > Graz: the use of the Nao model in the 3D simulation league. As you > > > > probably know, in Suzhou there was some controversy about this, > > > > since the people from Aldeberan were surprised to see the model > > > > without them being notified. In my contact with them at that time > > > > they seemed quite willing to let us use it and to supply details to > > > > possibly make the model more realistic, but I think it is still > > > > necessary to get some sort of formal agreement. We don't want to > > > > have a clash again in Graz. > > > > > > > > At which level should this be done? At least when the agreement is > > > > there, I think it's best that the MC discusses with them about the > > > > details? > > > > > > I agree it's an important issue, and if I remember correctly, Joschka > > > tried to contact them not too long ago, but didn't get a reply (I > > > don't know the details. I'm pretty sure it wasn't about getting an > > > agreement, but about technical issues because Aldebaran was apparently > > > interested in contributing to improving the model). > > > > > > An agreement is a separate issue, I'm not sure how formal it needs to > > > be though. An email from Aldebaran would probably be enough for now - > > > probably not too difficult to get, I would hope. > > > > > > I know Daniel was part of the discussion last year, so I've cc'ed him > > > and Joschka too. > > > > > > cheers > > > Oliver > > > > > > -- > > > Oliver Obst form follows function (Louis Sullivan). > > > Fon: +61 2 9325 3278 http://oliver.obst.eu/ > > > Autonomous Systems Lab CSIRO ICT Centre http://www.ict.csiro.au/asl/ > > > > > > > > > > > Hi,<br><br>In Suzhou, I talked with one of the guys from Aldebaran and > he gave me his contact info. He was positive and said they can provide > us more details for improving our model. I wanted to link Feng Xue to > him but meanwhile I became so busy and I forgot. I will send you the > contact information. I really apologize for forgetting this issue.<br> > <br><br>Best,<br><font color="#888888">Sahar</font><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 7:29 AM, Peter Stone <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ps...@cs...">ps...@cs...</a>></span> wrote:<br> > <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><br> > Hi all,<br> > <br> > I'll email my contact at Aldebaran to ask how they would like to<br> > proceed, and will report back.<br> > <br> > I'll try to set it up so that there can be direct contact between<br> > Aldebaran and the MC.<br> > <br> > Best,<br> > <font color="#888888"> Peter<br> > </font><div><div></div><div class="h5"><br> > <br> > ><br> > > On 05/03/2009, at 5:11 AM, Sander van Dijk wrote:<br> > ><br> > > > Hello MC, OC, TC, executive and trustee,<br> > > ><br> > > > There is an issue that we have to resolve before the competitions in<br> > > > Graz: the use of the Nao model in the 3D simulation league. As you<br> > > > probably know, in Suzhou there was some controversy about this,<br> > > > since the people from Aldeberan were surprised to see the model<br> > > > without them being notified. In my contact with them at that time<br> > > > they seemed quite willing to let us use it and to supply details to<br> > > > possibly make the model more realistic, but I think it is still<br> > > > necessary to get some sort of formal agreement. We don't want to<br> > > > have a clash again in Graz.<br> > > ><br> > > > At which level should this be done? At least when the agreement is<br> > > > there, I think it's best that the MC discusses with them about the<br> > > > details?<br> > ><br> > > I agree it's an important issue, and if I remember correctly, Joschka<br> > > tried to contact them not too long ago, but didn't get a reply (I<br> > > don't know the details. I'm pretty sure it wasn't about getting an<br> > > agreement, but about technical issues because Aldebaran was apparently<br> > > interested in contributing to improving the model).<br> > ><br> > > An agreement is a separate issue, I'm not sure how formal it needs to<br> > > be though. An email from Aldebaran would probably be enough for now -<br> > > probably not too difficult to get, I would hope.<br> > ><br> > > I know Daniel was part of the discussion last year, so I've cc'ed him<br> > > and Joschka too.<br> > ><br> > > cheers<br> > > Oliver<br> > ><br> > > --<br> > > Oliver Obst form follows function (Louis Sullivan).<br> > > Fon: +61 2 9325 3278 <a href="http://oliver.obst.eu/" target="_blank">http://oliver.obst.eu/</a><br> > > Autonomous Systems Lab CSIRO ICT Centre <a href="http://www.ict.csiro.au/asl/" target="_blank">http://www.ict.csiro.au/asl/</a><br> > ><br> > ><br> > <br> > </div></div></blockquote></div><br> |
