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Re: [simspark-devel] Nao model
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From: Sander v. D. <sgv...@gm...> - 2009-03-05 13:01:24
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Hello all, We have contact with the people from Aldeberan, they will supply us with meshes for the graphical model. In the simulator this model is seperate from the physical model, so changes in the looks have no effect on the performance. Peter and I have also asked them for some details for the physical model (mass distributions, sensor noise, etc.). It may be too late to push them into the simulator for this year, since they will change the performance and teams may need a lot of time to addept their behaviors to them, but it will help to make the model more realistic later on. Cheers, Sander On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 12:08 PM, Daniel Polani <d.p...@he...> wrote: > Hi, > > Aldebaran seemed quite concerned with the appearance of the robot, in > fact more so than on the technical specs. Question to the MC: will a > detailed modeling of the appearance affect simulation performance? > > A second issue is the following: we need to be careful that the > requirements of the simulation league are not necessarily dictated by > the exact technical specifications where this is not yet relevant. Of > course, in the course of years we want to converge to model the actual > Nao, but we need to be careful that our scientific goals are dictated > by what we want and are able to do this year in terms of scientific > challenge. > > - Daniel > > Sahar Asadi writes: > > Hi, > > > > In Suzhou, I talked with one of the guys from Aldebaran and he gave me > his > > contact info. He was positive and said they can provide us more details > for > > improving our model. I wanted to link Feng Xue to him but meanwhile I > became > > so busy and I forgot. I will send you the contact information. I really > > apologize for forgetting this issue. > > > > > > Best, > > Sahar > > > > On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 7:29 AM, Peter Stone <ps...@cs...> > wrote: > > > > > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > I'll email my contact at Aldebaran to ask how they would like to > > > proceed, and will report back. > > > > > > I'll try to set it up so that there can be direct contact between > > > Aldebaran and the MC. > > > > > > Best, > > > Peter > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 05/03/2009, at 5:11 AM, Sander van Dijk wrote: > > > > > > > > > Hello MC, OC, TC, executive and trustee, > > > > > > > > > > There is an issue that we have to resolve before the competitions > in > > > > > Graz: the use of the Nao model in the 3D simulation league. As you > > > > > probably know, in Suzhou there was some controversy about this, > > > > > since the people from Aldeberan were surprised to see the model > > > > > without them being notified. In my contact with them at that time > > > > > they seemed quite willing to let us use it and to supply details > to > > > > > possibly make the model more realistic, but I think it is still > > > > > necessary to get some sort of formal agreement. We don't want to > > > > > have a clash again in Graz. > > > > > > > > > > At which level should this be done? At least when the agreement is > > > > > there, I think it's best that the MC discusses with them about the > > > > > details? > > > > > > > > I agree it's an important issue, and if I remember correctly, > Joschka > > > > tried to contact them not too long ago, but didn't get a reply (I > > > > don't know the details. I'm pretty sure it wasn't about getting an > > > > agreement, but about technical issues because Aldebaran was > apparently > > > > interested in contributing to improving the model). > > > > > > > > An agreement is a separate issue, I'm not sure how formal it needs > to > > > > be though. An email from Aldebaran would probably be enough for now > - > > > > probably not too difficult to get, I would hope. > > > > > > > > I know Daniel was part of the discussion last year, so I've cc'ed > him > > > > and Joschka too. > > > > > > > > cheers > > > > Oliver > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Oliver Obst form follows function (Louis > Sullivan). > > > > Fon: +61 2 9325 3278 > http://oliver.obst.eu/ > > > > Autonomous Systems Lab CSIRO ICT Centre > http://www.ict.csiro.au/asl/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi,<br><br>In Suzhou, I talked with one of the guys from Aldebaran and > > he gave me his contact info. He was positive and said they can provide > > us more details for improving our model. I wanted to link Feng Xue to > > him but meanwhile I became so busy and I forgot. I will send you the > > contact information. I really apologize for forgetting this issue.<br> > > <br><br>Best,<br><font color="#888888">Sahar</font><br><br><div > class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 7:29 AM, Peter Stone <span > dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ps...@cs...">ps...@cs...</a>></span> > wrote:<br> > > <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, > 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><br> > > Hi all,<br> > > <br> > > I'll email my contact at Aldebaran to ask how they would like to<br> > > proceed, and will report back.<br> > > <br> > > I'll try to set it up so that there can be direct contact > between<br> > > Aldebaran and the MC.<br> > > <br> > > Best,<br> > > <font color="#888888"> Peter<br> > > </font><div><div></div><div class="h5"><br> > > <br> > > ><br> > > > On 05/03/2009, at 5:11 AM, Sander van Dijk wrote:<br> > > ><br> > > > > Hello MC, OC, TC, executive and trustee,<br> > > > ><br> > > > > There is an issue that we have to resolve before the > competitions in<br> > > > > Graz: the use of the Nao model in the 3D simulation league. As > you<br> > > > > probably know, in Suzhou there was some controversy about > this,<br> > > > > since the people from Aldeberan were surprised to see the > model<br> > > > > without them being notified. In my contact with them at that > time<br> > > > > they seemed quite willing to let us use it and to supply > details to<br> > > > > possibly make the model more realistic, but I think it is > still<br> > > > > necessary to get some sort of formal agreement. We don't > want to<br> > > > > have a clash again in Graz.<br> > > > ><br> > > > > At which level should this be done? At least when the > agreement is<br> > > > > there, I think it's best that the MC discusses with them > about the<br> > > > > details?<br> > > ><br> > > > I agree it's an important issue, and if I remember correctly, > Joschka<br> > > > tried to contact them not too long ago, but didn't get a reply > (I<br> > > > don't know the details. I'm pretty sure it wasn't about > getting an<br> > > > agreement, but about technical issues because Aldebaran was > apparently<br> > > > interested in contributing to improving the model).<br> > > ><br> > > > An agreement is a separate issue, I'm not sure how formal it > needs to<br> > > > be though. An email from Aldebaran would probably be enough for now > -<br> > > > probably not too difficult to get, I would hope.<br> > > ><br> > > > I know Daniel was part of the discussion last year, so I've > cc'ed him<br> > > > and Joschka too.<br> > > ><br> > > > cheers<br> > > > Oliver<br> > > ><br> > > > --<br> > > > Oliver Obst form follows function (Louis > Sullivan).<br> > > > Fon: +61 2 9325 3278 <a href=" > http://oliver.obst.eu/" target="_blank">http://oliver.obst.eu/</a><br> > > > Autonomous Systems Lab CSIRO ICT Centre <a href=" > http://www.ict.csiro.au/asl/" target="_blank">http://www.ict.csiro.au/asl/ > </a><br> > > ><br> > > ><br> > > <br> > > </div></div></blockquote></div><br> > > |
