Re: [simspark-devel] Plan!

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<span>Hi Sander and all, <br>
(CC: Sahar)<br>
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van Dijk" <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:sgv...@gm...">&lt;sgv...@gm...&gt;</a></b></i> wrote on ۰۸/۱۱/۱۶
03:53:05:</span><br>
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I think this structure sounds good too. How shall we go ahead? It will
probably be best if one builds and fills the structure in the SVN
repository, it's probably not that much work that it makes sense to
divide over multiple people, right? The changes in the simspark CVS
have already been ported to the rcsoccersim repository, or not? If not,
I think that's the next step after moving to SVN.<br>
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As far as I remember, I've ported all of the changes in simspark CVS to
rcssserver3d repository, and simspark CVS has not been updated since
then (I think!). <br>
Yes it is not much work. ZigoratAssistant should be ported by Zigorat
people I think, but others can be done by any other person. Maybe I can
do it myself. But it would be nice if someone can port rsgedit and
simspark-utilities in parallel for example. <br>
<br>
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Then I think we probably should look at basic bugs/code clean
up/documentation etc. until proposals for the 3DD league are in, so we
don't take on big changes that may overlap or interfere with work of
the 3DD teams.<br>
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I've talked with Sahar about it. We should not rely on 3DD teams'
works. So, we thought that it is better to do the reverse: creating MC
plan before 3DD proposal submission deadline so that 3DD teams could
select tasks which don't overlap with our plan. <br>
Our suggestion is to determine and publish MC plan for 2009 in November
(around November 26th), so that 3DD teams consider our plan when
deciding about their work.<br>
What do you think about it?<br>
<br>
Thanks for your notice,<br>
Hedayat<br>
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Sander<br>
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  <div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 12:01 PM, Hedayat
Vatankhah <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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    <div style="direction: ltr;" bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000"><span>Hi,<br>
OK, it seems that we are agree with most of the suggestions. I think
the migration process can be started now, with ZigoratAssistant and
spark/ since they don't depend on anything else and everybody seems to
agree with the proposed structure for them.<br>
    <br>
Good luck,<br>
Hedayat<br>
    <br>
    <i><b>Mahdi
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 type="cite">Hi Hedayat and all<br>
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  I think it's better if rsgedit is not moved anywhere and be a package
itself. Since rsgedit is not used commonly among RoboCup researchers.
The sole use of rsgedit is for developers and people who intend to run
their own simulations.<br>
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  In case that every top-level directory is an independent package
(which I did not know it beforehand!), I agree with most of the things
spoken till now. 5 packages seems to be fair: spark, rcssserver3d,
rsgedit, simspark-utilities, ZigoratAssistant plus a package which
contains all of the above. (Just like previous versions of 2D simulator
- rcsoccersim)<br>
      <br>
  Current version of the ZigoratAssistant does not rely on any part of
simulator or spark code. It's completely standalone (The only packages
needed is of course ogre and it's related ones!). So it may be as you
said. But I thought it would be better if it is placed beside the
simulator packages, since all tools and packages needed (mandatory or
optionally) would be all together. The primary good point for this idea
is that everything would be found easily and all their wiki's and user
faq's would be reachable in one place.<br>
      <br>
Cheers<br>
Mahdi<br>
      <br>
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