Re: [Simplog-devel] Listserv vs. blog

[Jeremy A. <ash...@13...>]

there is a private development forum on the BBS that I've set up.   If 
there is anyone on here who wants to start using it, go setup an account 
in the support forums, let me know what it is, and I'll give you 
access.  We also have an IRC channel that I've had one person visit at

irc.simplog.org
channel #simplog

I'm in there part of the day during the weekdays.

As far as development communication, I like to be notified of new posts 
in some manner, because I'm really bad at checking sites on a regular 
basis due to my busy schedule outside of the project.  I get instant 
notifcation via my email client using the listserv and can respond 
almost immediately.  That's my only real holdup to using Simplog, as it 
currently doesn't do notifications.  I'm open to almost anything you 
guys want to use as long as I can be notified via email or something......

Jim Hu wrote:

> I can understand why certain development issues shouldn't be on the 
> bbs - especially discussion of unclosed security holes - and it seems 
> like the bbs is used mostly to do user support.  But it seems to me 
> that there's a basic problem with the listserv model for developer 
> discussions: when someone new joins, the collective memory is in the 
> listserv archive which is not that well organized.
>
> By contrast, if we had a blog for the discussion, we could use 
> categories, links, comments, and trackbacks to organize the discussion 
> so that a new developer could have a better sense of what has or has 
> not already been hashed out, what problems were found etc.  It's not 
> like the listserv archives are secured anyway.  Posting and commenting 
> could be limited to people on the dev list, using stuff we already 
> have working in Simplog (I have a login-only version of comment.php in 
> the CVS, and it would be easy to modify to have different levels of 
> restriction on different blogs).
>
> From my own experience, it sure would have been nice to be able to 
> have a place to go to learn about how certain things work.  I've 
> modified the trackback handling, but it took a while to figure out 
> what the existing code does.  Similarly, it took me a while to 
> understand the installer.  These weren't hard, but it would have been 
> easier if I could just read someone else's posts about who had figured 
> it out before me, or who had explained it in more detail than you'd 
> want to put in the code comments.  I think that explaining the weird 
> way I've handled custom layouts in what's in the CVS might be 
> useful...and could stimulate discussion of what should be done 
> differently in version 2.
>
> I was thinking about this because I've been using Simplog this way for 
> discussion of other group projects...and it dawned on me that one of 
> the places I'm not using it is in the discussion of Simplog itself!  
> Also, I'm thinking that new user Tom Cort might be a good addition, 
> and we can help him and others get up to speed faster if we have 
> better archives.
>
> Jim Hu
>
> p.s.  I'm not sure if this general idea would be better using Simplog 
> or phpBB.  But I think either is better than the listserv...or they 
> can be complementary.  I like using Simplog partly because it's more 
> under our direct control, and partly because it's a nice advert for 
> the program.
>
>
>
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