#183 Crash on exit

I upgraded from SimpleMail v0.44 to v0.45, and then but then it crashes every time I quit. This makes it unusable - not least because the Index file isn't written, so it has to rescan any folders that were updated.

This is on an X1000. I have attached a Crash Log.

[trekman]

I can confirm this bug. Im on a A4000T/060 AOS3.9.
When I check "Clean Delete-Folder at exit" in config and then exit simplemail (V0.45) it crashes with a guru (8000000B). When I uncheck it in config simplemail does not crash at exit.

[trekman]

hmm...I got it running. What I did was to change the filesystem of the partition from pfs3 to sfs (v1279) and changed the dir name from "work:dfü/simplemail" to "work:net/simplemail".
Maybe the "ü" character is not optimal here.
I also went back from AmiSSL 4.7 to AmiSSL 4.2 as this seems to solve a crash when testing IMAP Accounts. From AmiSSL 4.3 on up Simple Mail has intense Problems and goes to crash. Its a pity :( since IBrowse (v.2.5.3) wants at least AmiSSL 4.4 at the time being.

[trekman]

ok...tried some things...the workaround is to install AmiSSL4.2 then AmiSSL4.3 over it and then finally (at the time being) install AmiSSL4.7 over all that. So I can use SimpleMail, IBrowse and even YAM (which woŕks only up to AmiSSL4.3 with the latest developer build, 2.10) until today. The crash at exit (so I do think) may be a problem with the filesystem as described above.

[Steve]

Hi Trekman, I find myself in the same boat as you with SimpleMail crashing every time I try to configure IMAP/SSL. I'm using AmiSSL 4.8. I read your posts and downloaded the older versions of AmiSSL and installed them too but it didn't help. How exactly did you manage to get the old versions of AmiSSL installed in such a way as to fix it? I have IBrowse 2.5.3 and YAM 2.10 (03/21 build) working fine. This is running on WB3.1.4. A1200/030. Any pointers would be most welcome!

[trekman]

Hey Steve, the only way it worked for me was to do the following :
uninstall AmiSSL completely. (Delete the AmiSSL folder and the entrys in user-startup)
Restart the computer. Then do a fresh install of AmiSSL4.2. Reboot the computer. Then install AmiSSL4.3 over AmiSSL4.2. (with the installer you can choose this option). Reboot computer. Then install AmiSSL4.7 over the 4.2/4.3 installation. Reboot computer.
This should help running simplemail , yam and Ibrowse simultaniously. At least it worked for me.
You can try to install the newest AmiSSL4.9 instead of 4.7, but I dont know if this is good for simplemail.

Unfortunately simplemail is not developed further on due to the lack of time and interest. I myself abandoned simplemail, installed AmiSSL4.9 alone. So I can use YAM 2.10 dv build and newest IBrowse. At the time being there is no proper mail client solution for amiga. YAM only does POP3 poll, but better than nothing. :-|

I hope someone capable gets it done to IMAP and newest AmiSSL someday....;-)

[Steve]

That's a real shame. I think at the back of my mind I kind of suspected something was up but kept hoping I was wrong. There had been regular small annual updates for several years but then it just went quiet after v.45. I didn't know it was officially dead though :(

In that case I guess it's kind of pointless getting it working anyway as I'd just be setting up to fail again next time something else is updated and breaks it. At least YAM development is still active, for the time being at least. I think IMAP is on their 'to do' list actually but who knows if that will ever actually happen.

I'd happily pay for that feature though, whether it is added to YAM or by someone taking over development of SimpleMail...

[Sebastian Bauer]

The project has not been abandoned in general, only on this site. Please use https://github.com/sba1/simplemail for Issues and discussions. Granted, it is in a longer hibernate mode there too, due to time constraints. But if I would have a clear step to step instruction how to reproduce the problem, perferably on emulated 68k for the time being, with minimal doing from my side except the coding, I could take a look at it.

[trekman]

From my point of view it needs to be adapted to the latest AmiSSL version (4.9 today)
That seems to be a big problem somehow even at start of simplemail.
Once done we could adress to other problems when there. :-)

[Steve]

So I decided to have a go at this seeing as how SimpleMail may not be dead. However I'm unsure what to choose when installing AmiSSL 4.3 over the top of 4.2. It detects it's there which is fine but then after installing a few libraries it then says "you already have a newer version of AmiSSL installed" (I don't - it's got 4.2 on it!) and recommends I keep the (allegedly newer) installed certificates?

I did delete the entire AmiSSL folder and the entries in user-startup before installing 4.2 and rebooted. Confused!

[Steve]

Ok, I must have forgotten to reboot between installing 4.2 and 4.3 as the installer deleted the old certificates automatically when I tried again. However this did not fix my issue with SimpleMail crashing with IMAP so I guess there's something else at play here :(

Anyway at last YAM and IBrowse still work properly so all is not lost.