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From: BPJ <bp...@me...> - 2015-08-11 11:24:31
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Hi, Can you open PDFs generated by Graphite-aware programs like XeTeX or LibreOffice in Adobe programs without losing the Graphite 'magic'? I ask because I don't have or use those programs, but some in my presumptive user base do, so the issue will certainly come up. /bpj |
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From: Carsten B. <ca...@gm...> - 2015-08-11 11:42:19
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Hi Benct, this should work in my experience, at least as far as Adobe Reader is concerned. Here's a screenshot of my own Graphite-enabled font for my own fictional alphabet (left; XeTeX) [1] and another document set in Linux Libertine G, which uses Graphite for typographic ligatures (Th, fi, ff et al.) among others (right; LibreOffice 4) [2]. The fonts are partially embedded in the PDF files in both cases according to the file properties dialog. <http://i.imgur.com/drMYXph.png> I'm viewing this in Adobe Reader 11.0.08 running with WINE 1.7.44 on KUbuntu 15.04. Regards Carsten [1] <http://benung.nfshost.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/2015-06-29-lords-prayer.pdf> [2] <http://benung.nfshost.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/2012-04-07-imperial-messages.pdf> Am 11.08.2015 um 13:24 schrieb BPJ: > Can you open PDFs generated by Graphite-aware programs like XeTeX > or LibreOffice in Adobe programs without losing the Graphite > 'magic'? I ask because I don't have or use those programs, but > some in my presumptive user base do, so the issue will certainly > come up. |
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From: BPJ <bp...@me...> - 2015-08-11 11:57:31
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Den 2015-08-11 13:42, Carsten Becker skrev: > Hi Benct, > > this should work in my experience, at least as far as Adobe Reader is > concerned. Hi Carsten, I'm using Ubuntu/GNOME and have had no problem *viewing such PDFs in a variety of viewers. I was thinking more of Illustrator and friends which actually open PDFs for editing. I should have pointed that out, but human beings are in the habit of taking things for granted! :-) /bpj > Here's a screenshot of my own Graphite-enabled font for my > own fictional alphabet (left; XeTeX) [1] and another document set in > Linux Libertine G, which uses Graphite for typographic ligatures (Th, > fi, ff et al.) among others (right; LibreOffice 4) [2]. The fonts are > partially embedded in the PDF files in both cases according to the file > properties dialog. > > <http://i.imgur.com/drMYXph.png> > > I'm viewing this in Adobe Reader 11.0.08 running with WINE 1.7.44 on > KUbuntu 15.04. > > Regards > Carsten > > [1] > <http://benung.nfshost.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/2015-06-29-lords-prayer.pdf> > [2] > <http://benung.nfshost.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/2012-04-07-imperial-messages.pdf> > > Am 11.08.2015 um 13:24 schrieb BPJ: > >> Can you open PDFs generated by Graphite-aware programs like XeTeX >> or LibreOffice in Adobe programs without losing the Graphite >> 'magic'? I ask because I don't have or use those programs, but >> some in my presumptive user base do, so the issue will certainly >> come up. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > _______________________________________________ > Silgraphite-fonts mailing list > Sil...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/silgraphite-fonts > |
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From: Jim B. <jim...@si...> - 2015-08-11 13:57:37
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I haven't used Illustrator, but I did a quick experiment with Acrobat. I'm using Windows 8.1, Acrobat Pro XI, XeTex, Tai Dam language text in the Tai Viet script, and the Tai Heritage Pro font. I opened the XeTex output in Acrobat. I was able to add/remove pages, highlight text, and edit Latin text. When I tried to edit Tai Viet text, it became a bit problematic: My Keyman keyboard did not seem to function inside of Acrobat. I was able to paste Tai Viet characters into the text from the clipboard, but the Graphite rendering did not work. That is not surprising. However, I would never edit XeTex output in this way--I would edit the source file and rerun XeTex. Jim Brase NRSI On 8/11/2015 7:57 AM, BPJ wrote: > Den 2015-08-11 13:42, Carsten Becker skrev: >> Hi Benct, >> >> this should work in my experience, at least as far as Adobe Reader is >> concerned. > Hi Carsten, > > I'm using Ubuntu/GNOME and have had no problem *viewing such PDFs > in a variety of viewers. > I was thinking more of Illustrator and friends which actually open > PDFs for editing. I should have pointed that out, but human > beings are in the habit of taking things for granted! :-) > > /bpj > > >> Here's a screenshot of my own Graphite-enabled font for my >> own fictional alphabet (left; XeTeX) [1] and another document set in >> Linux Libertine G, which uses Graphite for typographic ligatures (Th, >> fi, ff et al.) among others (right; LibreOffice 4) [2]. The fonts are >> partially embedded in the PDF files in both cases according to the file >> properties dialog. >> >> <http://i.imgur.com/drMYXph.png> >> >> I'm viewing this in Adobe Reader 11.0.08 running with WINE 1.7.44 on >> KUbuntu 15.04. >> >> Regards >> Carsten >> >> [1] >> <http://benung.nfshost.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/2015-06-29-lords-prayer.pdf> >> [2] >> <http://benung.nfshost.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/2012-04-07-imperial-messages.pdf> >> >> Am 11.08.2015 um 13:24 schrieb BPJ: >> >>> Can you open PDFs generated by Graphite-aware programs like XeTeX >>> or LibreOffice in Adobe programs without losing the Graphite >>> 'magic'? I ask because I don't have or use those programs, but >>> some in my presumptive user base do, so the issue will certainly >>> come up. >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> _______________________________________________ >> Silgraphite-fonts mailing list >> Sil...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/silgraphite-fonts >> > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > _______________________________________________ > Silgraphite-fonts mailing list > Sil...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/silgraphite-fonts |
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From: BPJ <bp...@me...> - 2015-08-11 16:31:38
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Den 2015-08-11 15:31, Jim Brase skrev: > I haven't used Illustrator, but I did a quick experiment with Acrobat. > I'm using Windows 8.1, Acrobat Pro XI, XeTex, Tai Dam language text in > the Tai Viet script, and the Tai Heritage Pro font. I opened the XeTex > output in Acrobat. I was able to add/remove pages, highlight text, and > edit Latin text. > > When I tried to edit Tai Viet text, it became a bit problematic: My > Keyman keyboard did not seem to function inside of Acrobat. I was able > to paste Tai Viet characters into the text from the clipboard, but the > Graphite rendering did not work. That is not surprising. However, I > would never edit XeTex output in this way--I would edit the source file > and rerun XeTex. So would I, but it has happened that my XeTeX-generated PDFs have been embedded in one way or another in Illustrator documents. I'll have to contact the people concerned and find out if they can embed a pdf as a 'black box', or if they are willing to conduct some experiments. As a last resort I'll have to instead/alternatively rely on solutions using TECkit. I was anyway expecting to largely have to rely on glyph substitution rather than positioning so it won't be an enormous difference, although I'll have to create or modify more glyphs, and I don't think everyone will be happy to have to use (Xe)LaTeX and/or plaintext rather than LibreOffice. For some reason some people, unlike me, like WYSIWYG! :-) Thank you for spending your time on this! /bpj > > Jim Brase > NRSI > > > On 8/11/2015 7:57 AM, BPJ wrote: >> Den 2015-08-11 13:42, Carsten Becker skrev: >>> Hi Benct, >>> >>> this should work in my experience, at least as far as Adobe Reader is >>> concerned. >> Hi Carsten, >> >> I'm using Ubuntu/GNOME and have had no problem *viewing such PDFs >> in a variety of viewers. >> I was thinking more of Illustrator and friends which actually open >> PDFs for editing. I should have pointed that out, but human >> beings are in the habit of taking things for granted! :-) >> >> /bpj >> >> >>> Here's a screenshot of my own Graphite-enabled font for my >>> own fictional alphabet (left; XeTeX) [1] and another document set in >>> Linux Libertine G, which uses Graphite for typographic ligatures (Th, >>> fi, ff et al.) among others (right; LibreOffice 4) [2]. The fonts are >>> partially embedded in the PDF files in both cases according to the file >>> properties dialog. >>> >>> <http://i.imgur.com/drMYXph.png> >>> >>> I'm viewing this in Adobe Reader 11.0.08 running with WINE 1.7.44 on >>> KUbuntu 15.04. >>> >>> Regards >>> Carsten >>> >>> [1] >>> <http://benung.nfshost.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/2015-06-29-lords-prayer.pdf> >>> [2] >>> <http://benung.nfshost.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/2012-04-07-imperial-messages.pdf> >>> >>> Am 11.08.2015 um 13:24 schrieb BPJ: >>> >>>> Can you open PDFs generated by Graphite-aware programs like XeTeX >>>> or LibreOffice in Adobe programs without losing the Graphite >>>> 'magic'? I ask because I don't have or use those programs, but >>>> some in my presumptive user base do, so the issue will certainly >>>> come up. >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Silgraphite-fonts mailing list >>> Sil...@li... >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/silgraphite-fonts >>> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> _______________________________________________ >> Silgraphite-fonts mailing list >> Sil...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/silgraphite-fonts > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > _______________________________________________ > Silgraphite-fonts mailing list > Sil...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/silgraphite-fonts > |
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