Thread: [Shinken-devel] Shinken 2.0-RC1 OUT. Need tests!
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From: Sébastien C. <s.c...@fr...> - 2014-01-25 01:35:41
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Hi all! I finally decided to create the 2.0-RC1 tag and push it upstream. I was waiting for small easy bugfixes to clear. As there are a lot of change (see the ChangeLog for all details) in the Core I need you guys to test it deeply! As the communication part is new, bug are likely to hide there. I hope we managed to fix the biggest ones :) Careful when you install Shinken, we want to put LSB path for conf, log and pid. So you will need a /var/run/shinken, /var/log/shinken and /etc/shinken to make it work properly. In my own case I only create the first to and "boot" from git with bin/launch_all.sh for test. I really fear that the rc1 may not work on windows as I have nothing to test it (and the veosoft installer is so useful :D). I hope someone will be able to give me feedback on that. Last thing, I'm thinking about tagging all modules with a version in order to have at least one "stable" release of them. What do you think? Have a nice week-end :) Sébastien COAVOUX, Computer Science Engineer (Network && Systems) Shinken Development Team Member GitHub <https://github.com/Seb-Solon> - Twitter<https://twitter.com/Seb_Cvx> - Linkedin <http://www.linkedin.com/profile/view?id=86578210> |
From: david h. <dav...@gm...> - 2014-01-25 09:40:33
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Good news for LSB ;) 2014/1/25 Sébastien Coavoux <s.c...@fr...> > Hi all! > > I finally decided to create the 2.0-RC1 tag and push it upstream. I was > waiting for small easy bugfixes to clear. As there are a lot of change (see > the ChangeLog for all details) in the Core I need you guys to test it > deeply! As the communication part is new, bug are likely to hide there. I > hope we managed to fix the biggest ones :) > > Careful when you install Shinken, we want to put LSB path for conf, log > and pid. So you will need a /var/run/shinken, /var/log/shinken and > /etc/shinken to make it work properly. In my own case I only create the > first to and "boot" from git with bin/launch_all.sh for test. > > I really fear that the rc1 may not work on windows as I have nothing to > test it (and the veosoft installer is so useful :D). I hope someone will be > able to give me feedback on that. > > Last thing, I'm thinking about tagging all modules with a version in order > to have at least one "stable" release of them. What do you think? > > > Have a nice week-end :) > > > Sébastien COAVOUX, > > Computer Science Engineer (Network && Systems) > Shinken Development Team Member > > GitHub <https://github.com/Seb-Solon> - Twitter<https://twitter.com/Seb_Cvx> > - Linkedin <http://www.linkedin.com/profile/view?id=86578210> > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > CenturyLink Cloud: The Leader in Enterprise Cloud Services. > Learn Why More Businesses Are Choosing CenturyLink Cloud For > Critical Workloads, Development Environments & Everything In Between. > Get a Quote or Start a Free Trial Today. > > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=119420431&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk > _______________________________________________ > Shinken-devel mailing list > Shi...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/shinken-devel > > -- David Hannequin |
From: nap <nap...@gm...> - 2014-01-25 13:39:07
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??? Sorry? You tag a rc? You kidding me? did I allow this? there are still fix I need to do before a rc! You can at least ask by chat! I planned to work this week on the last part, especially the install part (that is totally broken!) and the shinken command that is still full of debug. Did you think it's a good thing to put a RC with all of this??? I'll revert this RC. I'm not agree with the quality level of this RC. Jean On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 10:40 AM, david hannequin <dav...@gm... > wrote: > Good news for LSB ;) > > > 2014/1/25 Sébastien Coavoux <s.c...@fr...> > >> Hi all! >> >> I finally decided to create the 2.0-RC1 tag and push it upstream. I was >> waiting for small easy bugfixes to clear. As there are a lot of change (see >> the ChangeLog for all details) in the Core I need you guys to test it >> deeply! As the communication part is new, bug are likely to hide there. I >> hope we managed to fix the biggest ones :) >> >> Careful when you install Shinken, we want to put LSB path for conf, log >> and pid. So you will need a /var/run/shinken, /var/log/shinken and >> /etc/shinken to make it work properly. In my own case I only create the >> first to and "boot" from git with bin/launch_all.sh for test. >> >> I really fear that the rc1 may not work on windows as I have nothing to >> test it (and the veosoft installer is so useful :D). I hope someone will be >> able to give me feedback on that. >> >> Last thing, I'm thinking about tagging all modules with a version in >> order to have at least one "stable" release of them. What do you think? >> >> >> Have a nice week-end :) >> >> >> Sébastien COAVOUX, >> >> Computer Science Engineer (Network && Systems) >> Shinken Development Team Member >> >> GitHub <https://github.com/Seb-Solon> - Twitter<https://twitter.com/Seb_Cvx> >> - Linkedin <http://www.linkedin.com/profile/view?id=86578210> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> CenturyLink Cloud: The Leader in Enterprise Cloud Services. >> Learn Why More Businesses Are Choosing CenturyLink Cloud For >> Critical Workloads, Development Environments & Everything In Between. >> Get a Quote or Start a Free Trial Today. >> >> http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=119420431&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk >> _______________________________________________ >> Shinken-devel mailing list >> Shi...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/shinken-devel >> >> > > > -- > David Hannequin > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > CenturyLink Cloud: The Leader in Enterprise Cloud Services. > Learn Why More Businesses Are Choosing CenturyLink Cloud For > Critical Workloads, Development Environments & Everything In Between. > Get a Quote or Start a Free Trial Today. > > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=119420431&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk > _______________________________________________ > Shinken-devel mailing list > Shi...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/shinken-devel > > |
From: David D. <d.d...@si...> - 2014-01-25 14:21:07
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Le Sat, 25 Jan 2014 14:38:59 +0100 nap <nap...@gm...> a écrit: >??? Sorry? You tag a rc? You kidding me? did I allow this? there are >still fix I need to do before a rc! You can at least ask by chat! > >I planned to work this week on the last part, especially the install >part (that is totally broken!) and the shinken command that is still >full of debug. Did you think it's a good thing to put a RC with all of >this??? > >I'll revert this RC. I'm not agree with the quality level of this RC. Not sure speak like this to someboby works lot of his time on a community project is a good thing. David ++ >Jean > > > > >On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 10:40 AM, david hannequin ><dav...@gm... >> wrote: > >> Good news for LSB ;) >> >> >> 2014/1/25 Sébastien Coavoux <s.c...@fr...> >> >>> Hi all! >>> >>> I finally decided to create the 2.0-RC1 tag and push it upstream. I >>> was waiting for small easy bugfixes to clear. As there are a lot of >>> change (see the ChangeLog for all details) in the Core I need you >>> guys to test it deeply! As the communication part is new, bug are >>> likely to hide there. I hope we managed to fix the biggest ones :) >>> >>> Careful when you install Shinken, we want to put LSB path for conf, >>> log and pid. So you will need a /var/run/shinken, /var/log/shinken >>> and /etc/shinken to make it work properly. In my own case I only >>> create the first to and "boot" from git with bin/launch_all.sh for >>> test. >>> >>> I really fear that the rc1 may not work on windows as I have >>> nothing to test it (and the veosoft installer is so useful :D). I >>> hope someone will be able to give me feedback on that. >>> >>> Last thing, I'm thinking about tagging all modules with a version in >>> order to have at least one "stable" release of them. What do you >>> think? >>> >>> >>> Have a nice week-end :) >>> >>> >>> Sébastien COAVOUX, >>> >>> Computer Science Engineer (Network && Systems) >>> Shinken Development Team Member >>> >>> GitHub <https://github.com/Seb-Solon> - >>> Twitter<https://twitter.com/Seb_Cvx> >>> - Linkedin <http://www.linkedin.com/profile/view?id=86578210> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> CenturyLink Cloud: The Leader in Enterprise Cloud Services. >>> Learn Why More Businesses Are Choosing CenturyLink Cloud For >>> Critical Workloads, Development Environments & Everything In >>> Between. Get a Quote or Start a Free Trial Today. >>> >>> http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=119420431&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Shinken-devel mailing list >>> Shi...@li... >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/shinken-devel >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> David Hannequin >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> CenturyLink Cloud: The Leader in Enterprise Cloud Services. >> Learn Why More Businesses Are Choosing CenturyLink Cloud For >> Critical Workloads, Development Environments & Everything In Between. >> Get a Quote or Start a Free Trial Today. >> >> http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=119420431&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk >> _______________________________________________ >> Shinken-devel mailing list >> Shi...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/shinken-devel >> >> |
From: Guillaume S. <ma...@su...> - 2014-01-25 15:12:57
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Le 14/01/25 15:05, David DURIEUX claviotta : > Le Sat, 25 Jan 2014 14:38:59 +0100 > nap <nap...@gm...> a écrit: > > >??? Sorry? You tag a rc? You kidding me? did I allow this? there are > >still fix I need to do before a rc! You can at least ask by chat! > > > >I planned to work this week on the last part, especially the install > >part (that is totally broken!) and the shinken command that is still > >full of debug. Did you think it's a good thing to put a RC with all of > >this??? > > > >I'll revert this RC. I'm not agree with the quality level of this RC. > > Not sure speak like this to someboby works lot of his time on a > community project is a good thing. Moreover, this version works just fine, and install part works too. The shinken command is full of debug, yes, but this will not kill anybody. After two years using Shinken, I was seeing the work of Seb as a revival of the shinken community and a new hope of the projet. I agree this should be a "beta" instead of a "RC", and this premature release might annoy you. But a "RC" is not a packaged release either! After months waiting for a new version of shinken, we should all see it as a step forward. It may be flawed, but it is a step towards something better. -- Guillaume Subiron Mail - ma...@su... GPG - 5BC2 EADB Jabber - ma...@im... IRC - maethor@(freenode|geeknode) |
From: Sébastien C. <s.c...@fr...> - 2014-01-25 17:15:02
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Well, at least we can all thanks Jean for this perfect example of "How to manage a community nagiosly***" :) Now I'll focus on what Nap mean and not the way it was said (You deserved at least a troll for your email dude) 2014-01-25 Guillaume Subiron <ma...@su...> > Le 14/01/25 15:05, David DURIEUX claviotta : > > Le Sat, 25 Jan 2014 14:38:59 +0100 > > nap <nap...@gm...> a écrit: > > > > >??? Sorry? You tag a rc? You kidding me? did I allow this? there are > > >still fix I need to do before a rc! You can at least ask by chat! > > > > 1 : RC, alpha, beta, whatever. The thing was more about tagging something to make the community try it. There are still github ticket for 1.4. Everytime it's a pain to know it still a bug or not. I want to spend time to Shinken wisely because I don't have much. > > >I planned to work this week on the last part, especially the install > > >part (that is totally broken!) and the shinken command that is still > > >full of debug. Did you think it's a good thing to put a RC with all of > > >this??? > You planned to work on it? That's a good news :) You won't mind if I gently remind you that I was not aware of it? We talked about it before, we really need a roadmap or at least something to put or ideas. I currently used github for that but it may not be the good solution. At least, everything is in the same place, but this creates ticket for "nothing" > > > > >I'll revert this RC. I'm not agree with the quality level of this RC. > Goto 1 > > Not sure speak like this to someboby works lot of his time on a > > community project is a good thing. > > Moreover, this version works just fine, and install part works too. > The shinken command is full of debug, yes, but this will not kill > anybody. > > After two years using Shinken, I was seeing the work of Seb as a > revival of the shinken community and a new hope of the projet. I agree > this should be a "beta" instead of a "RC", and this premature release > might annoy you. But a "RC" is not a packaged release either! > After months waiting for a new version of shinken, we should all see > it as a step forward. > It may be flawed, but it is a step towards something better. > > -- > Guillaume Subiron > Mail - ma...@su... > GPG - 5BC2 EADB > Jabber - ma...@im... > IRC - maethor@(freenode|geeknode) > > Now I can get back to the way you show your disagreement. You obvisouly broke the rule number 1 when you receive an email that does not make you happy : Rule #1 : Do not answer, under any circumstances, to an email if you are not in a good mood. Maybe you wanted to answer quickly to explain the revert but this still brakes #1. I know you know that rule, this is the common way to deal with troll isn't it? Regarding the chat part : I wanted to push it later actually but I had time yesterday at my job. The +6h jet lag does not help to catch you on chat (look the date of the commit, I guess you were sleeping). Moreover, as you are usually in invisible mode to gtalk it makes me harder to know if you are here or not (we could argue on that point but we are not children) To conclude this, I may suggest you to take a nap (JOKE INSIDE) and relax a little bit :) I'm trying to do a part of the work you were doing on Shinken before work on the Entreprise. Keep and heartbeat upstream is really important to show users that we are still active. Making Shinken better is a matter of time and we don't have much. Let's not waste it with pointless quarells :) *** Nagios is a trademark blablabla (insert bullshit here) |
From: David G. <dav...@gm...> - 2014-01-25 17:48:25
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Hi there ..... Wtf is Going on there ? Do not start flaming for nothing please, Seb you are doing a really great job, but do not forget who is the leader there ;-) i know jean is not really present this time. This is not a reason to make such important decision alone. Jean you are the boss but please do not react this way publicly, write an email, read it twice and Everything will be fine. I know sometime we are not in a good mood, not a reason to shout everywhere ok ? From my point of view both of you should stop this and talk .... But privately. Le 25 janv. 2014 17:15, "Sébastien Coavoux" <s.c...@fr...> a écrit : > Well, at least we can all thanks Jean for this perfect example of "How to > manage a community nagiosly***" :) > > Now I'll focus on what Nap mean and not the way it was said (You deserved > at least a troll for your email dude) > > > 2014-01-25 Guillaume Subiron <ma...@su...> > >> Le 14/01/25 15:05, David DURIEUX claviotta : >> > Le Sat, 25 Jan 2014 14:38:59 +0100 >> > nap <nap...@gm...> a écrit: >> > >> > >??? Sorry? You tag a rc? You kidding me? did I allow this? there are >> > >still fix I need to do before a rc! You can at least ask by chat! >> > > >> > 1 : RC, alpha, beta, whatever. The thing was more about tagging something > to make the community try it. There are still github ticket for 1.4. > Everytime it's a pain to know it still a bug or not. > I want to spend time to Shinken wisely because I don't have much. > > >> > >I planned to work this week on the last part, especially the install >> > >part (that is totally broken!) and the shinken command that is still >> > >full of debug. Did you think it's a good thing to put a RC with all of >> > >this??? >> > You planned to work on it? That's a good news :) You won't mind if I > gently remind you that I was not aware of it? We talked about it before, we > really need a roadmap or at least something to put or ideas. I currently > used github for that but it may not be the good solution. At least, > everything is in the same place, but this creates ticket for "nothing" > > > > >> > >I'll revert this RC. I'm not agree with the quality level of this RC. >> Goto 1 >> > > Not sure speak like this to someboby works lot of his time on a >> > community project is a good thing. >> >> Moreover, this version works just fine, and install part works too. >> The shinken command is full of debug, yes, but this will not kill >> anybody. >> >> After two years using Shinken, I was seeing the work of Seb as a >> revival of the shinken community and a new hope of the projet. I agree >> this should be a "beta" instead of a "RC", and this premature release >> might annoy you. But a "RC" is not a packaged release either! >> After months waiting for a new version of shinken, we should all see >> it as a step forward. >> It may be flawed, but it is a step towards something better. >> >> -- >> Guillaume Subiron >> Mail - ma...@su... >> GPG - 5BC2 EADB >> Jabber - ma...@im... >> IRC - maethor@(freenode|geeknode) >> >> > Now I can get back to the way you show your disagreement. > > You obvisouly broke the rule number 1 when you receive an email that does > not make you happy : Rule #1 : Do not answer, under any circumstances, to > an email if you are not in a good mood. > Maybe you wanted to answer quickly to explain the revert but this still > brakes #1. I know you know that rule, this is the common way to deal with > troll isn't it? > > Regarding the chat part : I wanted to push it later actually but I had > time yesterday at my job. The +6h jet lag does not help to catch you on > chat (look the date of the commit, I guess you were sleeping). Moreover, as > you are usually in invisible mode to gtalk it makes me harder to know if > you are here or not (we could argue on that point but we are not children) > > To conclude this, I may suggest you to take a nap (JOKE INSIDE) and relax > a little bit :) I'm trying to do a part of the work you were doing on > Shinken before work on the Entreprise. Keep and heartbeat upstream is > really important to show users that we are still active. > > Making Shinken better is a matter of time and we don't have much. Let's > not waste it with pointless quarells :) > > > > *** Nagios is a trademark blablabla (insert bullshit here) > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > CenturyLink Cloud: The Leader in Enterprise Cloud Services. > Learn Why More Businesses Are Choosing CenturyLink Cloud For > Critical Workloads, Development Environments & Everything In Between. > Get a Quote or Start a Free Trial Today. > > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=119420431&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk > _______________________________________________ > Shinken-devel mailing list > Shi...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/shinken-devel > > |
From: Sébastien C. <s.c...@fr...> - 2014-01-25 18:10:11
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Hi guyz, David, I'm not flaming don't worry. The first line was a troll about Jean's email actually (that's what I wrote on the seconde line). I'm not trying to take Jean's job/position, I don't even manage to commit as often as he did actually :) The RC seems to disturb you, that's fine. I just didn't think about another tag type to make poeple test it. Beta is perfect for me. As I said, I'm just trying to get rid of all 1.4 ticket that are time consuming. I was not ironic in my previous email, neither in this one. I'm really happy that nap will work on Shinken next week, we need it for the real 2.0. Email are always a bit confusing, especially when it comes on disagreement. I really don't want to start some kind of fight, I don't have the time for it :) Sébastien COAVOUX, Computer Science Engineer (Network && Systems) Shinken Development Team Member GitHub <https://github.com/Seb-Solon> - Twitter<https://twitter.com/Seb_Cvx> - Linkedin <http://www.linkedin.com/profile/view?id=86578210> 2014-01-25 David GUENAULT <dav...@gm...> > Hi there ..... Wtf is Going on there ? Do not start flaming for nothing > please, Seb you are doing a really great job, but do not forget who is the > leader there ;-) i know jean is not really present this time. This is not a > reason to make such important decision alone. Jean you are the boss but > please do not react this way publicly, write an email, read it twice and > Everything will be fine. I know sometime we are not in a good mood, not a > reason to shout everywhere ok ? From my point of view both of you should > stop this and talk .... But privately. > Le 25 janv. 2014 17:15, "Sébastien Coavoux" <s.c...@fr...> a écrit : > >> Well, at least we can all thanks Jean for this perfect example of "How >> to manage a community nagiosly***" :) >> >> Now I'll focus on what Nap mean and not the way it was said (You deserved >> at least a troll for your email dude) >> >> >> 2014-01-25 Guillaume Subiron <ma...@su...> >> >>> Le 14/01/25 15:05, David DURIEUX claviotta : >>> > Le Sat, 25 Jan 2014 14:38:59 +0100 >>> > nap <nap...@gm...> a écrit: >>> > >>> > >??? Sorry? You tag a rc? You kidding me? did I allow this? there are >>> > >still fix I need to do before a rc! You can at least ask by chat! >>> > > >>> >> 1 : RC, alpha, beta, whatever. The thing was more about tagging something >> to make the community try it. There are still github ticket for 1.4. >> Everytime it's a pain to know it still a bug or not. >> I want to spend time to Shinken wisely because I don't have much. >> >> >>> > >I planned to work this week on the last part, especially the install >>> > >part (that is totally broken!) and the shinken command that is still >>> > >full of debug. Did you think it's a good thing to put a RC with all of >>> > >this??? >>> >> You planned to work on it? That's a good news :) You won't mind if I >> gently remind you that I was not aware of it? We talked about it before, we >> really need a roadmap or at least something to put or ideas. I currently >> used github for that but it may not be the good solution. At least, >> everything is in the same place, but this creates ticket for "nothing" >> >> > > >>> > >I'll revert this RC. I'm not agree with the quality level of this RC. >>> Goto 1 >>> >> > Not sure speak like this to someboby works lot of his time on a >>> > community project is a good thing. >>> >>> Moreover, this version works just fine, and install part works too. >>> The shinken command is full of debug, yes, but this will not kill >>> anybody. >>> >>> After two years using Shinken, I was seeing the work of Seb as a >>> revival of the shinken community and a new hope of the projet. I agree >>> this should be a "beta" instead of a "RC", and this premature release >>> might annoy you. But a "RC" is not a packaged release either! >>> After months waiting for a new version of shinken, we should all see >>> it as a step forward. >>> It may be flawed, but it is a step towards something better. >>> >>> -- >>> Guillaume Subiron >>> Mail - ma...@su... >>> GPG - 5BC2 EADB >>> Jabber - ma...@im... >>> IRC - maethor@(freenode|geeknode) >>> >>> >> Now I can get back to the way you show your disagreement. >> >> You obvisouly broke the rule number 1 when you receive an email that does >> not make you happy : Rule #1 : Do not answer, under any circumstances, >> to an email if you are not in a good mood. >> Maybe you wanted to answer quickly to explain the revert but this still >> brakes #1. I know you know that rule, this is the common way to deal with >> troll isn't it? >> >> Regarding the chat part : I wanted to push it later actually but I had >> time yesterday at my job. The +6h jet lag does not help to catch you on >> chat (look the date of the commit, I guess you were sleeping). Moreover, as >> you are usually in invisible mode to gtalk it makes me harder to know if >> you are here or not (we could argue on that point but we are not children) >> >> To conclude this, I may suggest you to take a nap (JOKE INSIDE) and relax >> a little bit :) I'm trying to do a part of the work you were doing on >> Shinken before work on the Entreprise. Keep and heartbeat upstream is >> really important to show users that we are still active. >> >> Making Shinken better is a matter of time and we don't have much. Let's >> not waste it with pointless quarells :) >> >> >> >> *** Nagios is a trademark blablabla (insert bullshit here) >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> CenturyLink Cloud: The Leader in Enterprise Cloud Services. >> Learn Why More Businesses Are Choosing CenturyLink Cloud For >> Critical Workloads, Development Environments & Everything In Between. >> Get a Quote or Start a Free Trial Today. >> >> http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=119420431&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk >> _______________________________________________ >> Shinken-devel mailing list >> Shi...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/shinken-devel >> >> > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > CenturyLink Cloud: The Leader in Enterprise Cloud Services. > Learn Why More Businesses Are Choosing CenturyLink Cloud For > Critical Workloads, Development Environments & Everything In Between. > Get a Quote or Start a Free Trial Today. > > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=119420431&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk > _______________________________________________ > Shinken-devel mailing list > Shi...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/shinken-devel > > |
From: David G. <dav...@gm...> - 2014-01-25 18:36:43
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I do not want tout talk about this anymore. Ah least publicly. You have to deal with jean out of the ml Hi guyz, David, I'm not flaming don't worry. The first line was a troll about Jean's email actually (that's what I wrote on the seconde line). I'm not trying to take Jean's job/position, I don't even manage to commit as often as he did actually :) The RC seems to disturb you, that's fine. I just didn't think about another tag type to make poeple test it. Beta is perfect for me. As I said, I'm just trying to get rid of all 1.4 ticket that are time consuming. I was not ironic in my previous email, neither in this one. I'm really happy that nap will work on Shinken next week, we need it for the real 2.0. Email are always a bit confusing, especially when it comes on disagreement. I really don't want to start some kind of fight, I don't have the time for it :) Sébastien COAVOUX, Computer Science Engineer (Network && Systems) Shinken Development Team Member GitHub <https://github.com/Seb-Solon> - Twitter<https://twitter.com/Seb_Cvx> - Linkedin <http://www.linkedin.com/profile/view?id=86578210> 2014-01-25 David GUENAULT <dav...@gm...> > Hi there ..... Wtf is Going on there ? Do not start flaming for nothing > please, Seb you are doing a really great job, but do not forget who is the > leader there ;-) i know jean is not really present this time. This is not a > reason to make such important decision alone. Jean you are the boss but > please do not react this way publicly, write an email, read it twice and > Everything will be fine. I know sometime we are not in a good mood, not a > reason to shout everywhere ok ? From my point of view both of you should > stop this and talk .... But privately. > Le 25 janv. 2014 17:15, "Sébastien Coavoux" <s.c...@fr...> a écrit : > >> Well, at least we can all thanks Jean for this perfect example of "How >> to manage a community nagiosly***" :) >> >> Now I'll focus on what Nap mean and not the way it was said (You deserved >> at least a troll for your email dude) >> >> >> 2014-01-25 Guillaume Subiron <ma...@su...> >> >>> Le 14/01/25 15:05, David DURIEUX claviotta : >>> > Le Sat, 25 Jan 2014 14:38:59 +0100 >>> > nap <nap...@gm...> a écrit: >>> > >>> > >??? Sorry? You tag a rc? You kidding me? did I allow this? there are >>> > >still fix I need to do before a rc! You can at least ask by chat! >>> > > >>> >> 1 : RC, alpha, beta, whatever. The thing was more about tagging something >> to make the community try it. There are still github ticket for 1.4. >> Everytime it's a pain to know it still a bug or not. >> I want to spend time to Shinken wisely because I don't have much. >> >> >>> > >I planned to work this week on the last part, especially the install >>> > >part (that is totally broken!) and the shinken command that is still >>> > >full of debug. Did you think it's a good thing to put a RC with all of >>> > >this??? >>> >> You planned to work on it? That's a good news :) You won't mind if I >> gently remind you that I was not aware of it? We talked about it before, we >> really need a roadmap or at least something to put or ideas. I currently >> used github for that but it may not be the good solution. At least, >> everything is in the same place, but this creates ticket for "nothing" >> >> > > >>> > >I'll revert this RC. I'm not agree with the quality level of this RC. >>> Goto 1 >>> >> > Not sure speak like this to someboby works lot of his time on a >>> > community project is a good thing. >>> >>> Moreover, this version works just fine, and install part works too. >>> The shinken command is full of debug, yes, but this will not kill >>> anybody. >>> >>> After two years using Shinken, I was seeing the work of Seb as a >>> revival of the shinken community and a new hope of the projet. I agree >>> this should be a "beta" instead of a "RC", and this premature release >>> might annoy you. But a "RC" is not a packaged release either! >>> After months waiting for a new version of shinken, we should all see >>> it as a step forward. >>> It may be flawed, but it is a step towards something better. >>> >>> -- >>> Guillaume Subiron >>> Mail - ma...@su... >>> GPG - 5BC2 EADB >>> Jabber - ma...@im... >>> IRC - maethor@(freenode|geeknode) >>> >>> >> Now I can get back to the way you show your disagreement. >> >> You obvisouly broke the rule number 1 when you receive an email that does >> not make you happy : Rule #1 : Do not answer, under any circumstances, >> to an email if you are not in a good mood. >> Maybe you wanted to answer quickly to explain the revert but this still >> brakes #1. I know you know that rule, this is the common way to deal with >> troll isn't it? >> >> Regarding the chat part : I wanted to push it later actually but I had >> time yesterday at my job. The +6h jet lag does not help to catch you on >> chat (look the date of the commit, I guess you were sleeping). Moreover, as >> you are usually in invisible mode to gtalk it makes me harder to know if >> you are here or not (we could argue on that point but we are not children) >> >> To conclude this, I may suggest you to take a nap (JOKE INSIDE) and relax >> a little bit :) I'm trying to do a part of the work you were doing on >> Shinken before work on the Entreprise. Keep and heartbeat upstream is >> really important to show users that we are still active. >> >> Making Shinken better is a matter of time and we don't have much. Let's >> not waste it with pointless quarells :) >> >> >> >> *** Nagios is a trademark blablabla (insert bullshit here) >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> CenturyLink Cloud: The Leader in Enterprise Cloud Services. >> Learn Why More Businesses Are Choosing CenturyLink Cloud For >> Critical Workloads, Development Environments & Everything In Between. >> Get a Quote or Start a Free Trial Today. >> >> http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=119420431&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk >> _______________________________________________ >> Shinken-devel mailing list >> Shi...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/shinken-devel >> >> > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > CenturyLink Cloud: The Leader in Enterprise Cloud Services. > Learn Why More Businesses Are Choosing CenturyLink Cloud For > Critical Workloads, Development Environments & Everything In Between. > Get a Quote or Start a Free Trial Today. > > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=119420431&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk > _______________________________________________ > Shinken-devel mailing list > Shi...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/shinken-devel > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ CenturyLink Cloud: The Leader in Enterprise Cloud Services. 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From: nap <nap...@gm...> - 2014-01-26 10:46:43
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On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 7:36 PM, David GUENAULT <dav...@gm...>wrote: > I do not want tout talk about this anymore. Ah least publicly. You have to > deal with jean out of the ml > Hi, I got nothing to talk about it publicly :) It's true that I did not follow the "do not answer when you are upset", sorry about that. But when someone else is releasing a tag/rc without asking the project leader, that's something wrong out there. For the installation: the install script don't do what we want. It do not install like it should now and it even give a wrng idea of what the 2.0 will be with the addon installation. This part need a huge rework, so not ok for a rc. One other problem is that a rc will means for huge tests, especially this one. But don't expect help if people will have to change lot of thing between a RC1 and a RC2. So sorry, but a RC really means something :) For the roadmap it's true that it's not easy to follow, mainly all is in github but it's not so easy to manage. In the first years we used the "idea" website, but in the end the votes push quite "not o useful things" when really useful ones where not vote because on the last pages. For my usage github is good enough, and unplanned features came from pull-requests. But if you find a good way to have a roadmap without asking too much time to everyone, I'm ok :) Jean |