Re: [SharpOS Developers] Linking with native libraries (was TrueType Fonts)

[Jonathan D. <jon...@gm...>]

Just to make sure we are all on the same page, the point of having
native libs is so that we can have a better start up time (i.e. True
Type fonts, MySQL client, etc.). In the end (2 years on, or whatever)
we should pull the support out of the compiler: or leave it in as a
enduring experimental feature (i.e. don't cry when it breaks). There
are obviously issues with security AND interaction between the .Net
runtime, but it will definitely help out in the beginning. If it will
take too long to implement there is probably little point, in my view
it should be one of those things that we either get done really
quickly or never done at all.

On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 6:51 PM, grover <sh...@mi...> wrote:
> Hi Jonathan,
>
> Inlining native libraries is difficult to say the least. I have not
> thought about it as I consider this really dangerous to say the least.
>
> You'd have to process all emitted code and either link with the external
> library or copy the code from it. Finally these libraries aren't standalone
> but do require either the C runtime library, another runtime library or
> operating system services - essentially some sort of Posix compliance.
>
> I don't think that will happen soon. How do others think about this?
>
> Mike
>
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>> Auftrag von Jonathan Dickinson
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>> Betreff: Re: [SharpOS Developers] True Type Fonts
>>
>> I said this on the Cosmos ML, I suppose I should have said it
>> everywhere. The point of this TTF stuff is that I will
>> co-incide with completion of System.Drawing namespaces (and
>> the start of userland as a whole). It will rely heavily on
>> Regions and Paths and what not, we will need those types of
>> things first. So it is a looong way off.
>>
>> Honestly, it is really on the back-burner at the moment as I
>> have a quite a bit of work at work, and working with TTF can
>> drive a person crazy. If anyone has a Hazmat suit for me
>> maybe I could dedicate more time to it :).
>>
>> If someone wants to hack System.Drawing support on the
>> current stuff feel free, I will try and get this thing
>> working faster if that's the case.
>>
>> Has anyone thought about inlining native libs (via P/Invoke)
>> so that we can use FreeType (which I am now considering just
>> porting) and Cairo? The Google Javascript OS does that and it
>> looks like it works pretty well... I know there is a certain
>> philosophy with the whole C# only idea, but this would give
>> us a boost so that we don't have to worry about
>> mundane/arcane things (like TTF): we could port the libs
>> later on. Mike, any chance of this stuff?
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 9:04 PM, Sander van Rossen
>> <s.v...@sy...> wrote:
>> > Yeah somebody did some basic graphics work, but it was a
>> bit too early
>> > for it to be used.. especially since we had nothing like a driver
>> > architecture back then, which at least now we have a good
>> part already
>> > in place (of the architecture)
>> >
>> > On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 4:55 PM, Phil Garcia
>> <ph...@th...> wrote:
>> >> Very cool. I think someone already did some work on a VGA
>> driver, but
>> >> they didn't been committed to the trunk. I'll look around
>> for it and
>> >> get it implemented. Let us know why type of graphic API
>> methods you
>> >> will need since obviously we won't have .NET graphic
>> classes available for a while.
>> >> -Phil
>> >
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