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From: salvador <sal...@in...> - 2001-11-08 17:33:43
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Grzegorz Adam Hankiewicz wrote: > On Wed, Nov 07, 2001 at 05:33:06PM -0300, salvador wrote: > > > How about implementing it via ~/.setedit/clipboard? > > > > Is possible, but a lock file should be needed. > > Well, just for writting to it, and I don't think I would like to copy two > things at the same time to the same clipboard from different consoles. > At least I won't be skilled enough to do it in time :) May be, but using a file that must be modified externally without a lock isn't a good idea. A write could be slow and you switch to the other copy of the editor, specially if your home is mounted using NFS in a slow network. > > Can you put it in the Feature Requests tracker? > > I tried, but stupid SF just keeps giving errors, possibly because of > the need of cookies I don't have. Argh... Ok, I'll put it. And yes, I think cookies are mandatory for S.F. SET -- Salvador Eduardo Tropea (SET). (Electronics Engineer) Visit my home page: http://welcome.to/SetSoft or http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Vista/6552/ Alternative e-mail: se...@co... se...@ie... Address: Curapaligue 2124, Caseros, 3 de Febrero Buenos Aires, (1678), ARGENTINA Phone: +(5411) 4759 0013 |
From: Grzegorz A. H. <gr...@te...> - 2001-11-07 23:08:10
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On Wed, Nov 07, 2001 at 05:33:06PM -0300, salvador wrote: > > How about implementing it via ~/.setedit/clipboard? > > Is possible, but a lock file should be needed. Well, just for writting to it, and I don't think I would like to copy two things at the same time to the same clipboard from different consoles. At least I won't be skilled enough to do it in time :) > Can you put it in the Feature Requests tracker? I tried, but stupid SF just keeps giving errors, possibly because of the need of cookies I don't have. Argh... -- Grzegorz Adam Hankiewicz gr...@te... http://gradha.infierno.org/ |
From: salvador <sal...@in...> - 2001-11-07 20:31:58
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Grzegorz Adam Hankiewicz wrote: > Sometimes it's useful (or just happens) that you have two editors running > at the same time, but you can't copy/paste from one to the another. Under > Windows I've managed to use the Windows clipboard feature to transfer > data. But under linux there isn't any. > > How about implementing it via ~/.setedit/clipboard? It's also very nice > when you have a console setedit and another under X (for some strange > reason :-) I manually create/use a ~/temp file, so it would be nice if > the editor took care of it automatically. Is possible, but a lock file should be needed. Can you put it in the Feature Requests tracker? SET -- Salvador Eduardo Tropea (SET). (Electronics Engineer) Visit my home page: http://welcome.to/SetSoft or http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Vista/6552/ Alternative e-mail: se...@co... se...@ie... Address: Curapaligue 2124, Caseros, 3 de Febrero Buenos Aires, (1678), ARGENTINA Phone: +(5411) 4759 0013 |
From: Grzegorz A. H. <gr...@te...> - 2001-11-07 19:02:01
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Hi. Sometimes it's useful (or just happens) that you have two editors running at the same time, but you can't copy/paste from one to the another. Under Windows I've managed to use the Windows clipboard feature to transfer data. But under linux there isn't any. How about implementing it via ~/.setedit/clipboard? It's also very nice when you have a console setedit and another under X (for some strange reason :-) I manually create/use a ~/temp file, so it would be nice if the editor took care of it automatically. -- Grzegorz Adam Hankiewicz gr...@te... http://gradha.infierno.org/ |
From: salvador <sal...@in...> - 2001-11-07 13:03:57
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Hi Thiago! I fixed the indent uncomenting bug and problems in InfView when loading old desktops. SET P.S. The indent comenting undo was making visible the rectangle selection used for it, now is properly hided. -- Salvador Eduardo Tropea (SET). (Electronics Engineer) Visit my home page: http://welcome.to/SetSoft or http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Vista/6552/ Alternative e-mail: se...@co... se...@ie... Address: Curapaligue 2124, Caseros, 3 de Febrero Buenos Aires, (1678), ARGENTINA Phone: +(5411) 4759 0013 |
From: salvador <sal...@in...> - 2001-11-06 16:13:10
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"C. W. Young" wrote: > I tried 0.4.51 yesterday. This was unsuccessful. In a terminal, garbage > was printed on the screen when I clicked the mouse. In Konsole, the > function keys worked improperly. Most probably due to wrong terminal descriptions. > I am back to 0.4.41 in the gnome terminal. There are some problems: > > 1. The color palette option is missing. Only Linux terminals support it and X terminals aren't Linux terminals. The sequences to do it are specific to TERM=Linux > 2. ^PageUp and ^PageDown only move one page. That's a limitation of all UNIX terminals. The System V terminfo database can't define those keys (and a lot more). Also: most UNIX terminals are unable to differenciate it. > 3. I am unable to select text. You mean using shift+arrows, no? Is the same as 2. Use ^k-b and ^k-k > I continue to use this editor because it is still preferable to > any alternative. I look forward to your new release. I insist: currently the only way to get a tolerable behavior is using *Eterm* and with my patches. It is available in the setedit site at Source Forge (source code and .deb binaries for Potato). Most X terminals are just missconfigured and limited to what the System V people thinks is enough for a UNIX terminal (which is really far from what we want). Even with that there are important limitations, as an example: the mouse doesn't report movements, just button press/release. It is a little bit annoying. Another limitation is in the available characters, some ISO-8859-1 accents are missing to let space for the DEC frames (used to emulate the IBM frames). The only way to solve these limitations is with the native X version. I have a Turbo Vision at home that can do it, but it will be released *after* the next stable release of the editor. This Turbo Vision won't be stable so I can't mix a stable editor with an unstable Turbo Vision. SET -- Salvador Eduardo Tropea (SET). (Electronics Engineer) Visit my home page: http://welcome.to/SetSoft or http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Vista/6552/ Alternative e-mail: se...@co... se...@ie... Address: Curapaligue 2124, Caseros, 3 de Febrero Buenos Aires, (1678), ARGENTINA Phone: +(5411) 4759 0013 |
From: C. W. Y. <ch...@su...> - 2001-11-06 15:56:07
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I tried 0.4.51 yesterday. This was unsuccessful. In a terminal, garbage was printed on the screen when I clicked the mouse. In Konsole, the function keys worked improperly. I am back to 0.4.41 in the gnome terminal. There are some problems: 1. The color palette option is missing. 2. ^PageUp and ^PageDown only move one page. 3. I am unable to select text. I continue to use this editor because it is still preferable to any alternative. I look forward to your new release. Thanks again for your help Chuck Young salvador wrote: > "C. W. Young" wrote: > > > I was using the kvt terminal. I switched to gnome and the function keys > > work. > > In the next weeks I'll release a new stable version soon. After it I'll put my > effort to release the WIP of Turbo Vision that supports X in a native fashion, so > you won't need a terminal emulator and things like ctrl+arrow will work. > If you need to use the editor with X now take a look at the patches for Eterm > 0.8.10 that I put in Source Forge (extra package section), they enable a lot of > keyboard combinations. > > SET > > BTW: Your problem looks like kvt is using the same terminfo database that xterm > but needs another ... is common to see it in Linux distros, don't know why they > mess things, I also don't know why x terminals doesn't simply all use VT220 > standard as they claim to be using. > |
From: salvador <sal...@in...> - 2001-11-05 13:28:42
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"C. W. Young" wrote: > I recently installed version 04.41 in Storm Linux 2000. While I am able The first thing to test is just try 0.4.51 that uses TV 1.1.3. > to work with it there are several problems which seem to be related to > key assignment. The following shows most of the problems: > > 11~ 12~ 13~ 14~ printed by F1 F2 F3 F4 [snip] 1) I need more information, are you running in the console? if not please use a console, not an X terminal. 2) If that's in a console then it looks like a huge missconfiguration of the terminfo database. SET -- Salvador Eduardo Tropea (SET). (Electronics Engineer) Visit my home page: http://welcome.to/SetSoft or http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Vista/6552/ Alternative e-mail: se...@co... se...@ie... Address: Curapaligue 2124, Caseros, 3 de Febrero Buenos Aires, (1678), ARGENTINA Phone: +(5411) 4759 0013 |
From: C. W. Y. <ch...@su...> - 2001-11-04 13:34:19
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I recently installed version 04.41 in Storm Linux 2000. While I am able to work with it there are several problems which seem to be related to key assignment. The following shows most of the problems: 11~ 12~ 13~ 14~ printed by F1 F2 F3 F4 H F printed by Home and End (which do not affect the cursor) caused by F11 (looked like !) caused by F8 (looked like >) caused by F7 (looked like *) ^Home and ^End don't work ^PageUp and ^PageDown work like PageUp and PageDown F2 does not Save. The menuitem works OK though. The munuitem Color Pallete does not appear. ^Del does not work |
From: salvador <sal...@in...> - 2001-11-01 21:19:10
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Grzegorz Adam Hankiewicz wrote: > When you are over a word and press Ctrl+Q+F you get the search box with > the current word selected, and you can press cursor right to 'extend' > the search term with more text. Can it be made that the combo keys > ctrl+left/right work here too to include whole words at once? May be. Goes to the F.R. list SET -- Salvador Eduardo Tropea (SET). (Electronics Engineer) Visit my home page: http://welcome.to/SetSoft or http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Vista/6552/ Alternative e-mail: se...@co... se...@ie... Address: Curapaligue 2124, Caseros, 3 de Febrero Buenos Aires, (1678), ARGENTINA Phone: +(5411) 4759 0013 |
From: Grzegorz A. H. <gr...@te...> - 2001-11-01 11:13:01
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Hi. When you are over a word and press Ctrl+Q+F you get the search box with the current word selected, and you can press cursor right to 'extend' the search term with more text. Can it be made that the combo keys ctrl+left/right work here too to include whole words at once? -- Grzegorz Adam Hankiewicz gr...@te... http://gradha.infierno.org/ |
From: Martijn V. <m.v...@hc...> - 2001-10-31 15:59:41
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>> Hi SET, >> >> I have a request. When you do a search the entry line of the search automagically displays >> the word under the cursor, this is right in most cases, but when a selection >> is active it would IMHO be more logical to let it use that. >> >> This way you can mark a block of text, press CTRL-Q F and find that block immediately. >> What do you think? > >Don't know, it will confuse people acustomed to the Borland behavior. Well, it is the way it works in wordstar compatible editors IRRC, so it is what a lot of (non borland) people expect. -- Martijn Versteegh |
From: Thiago F.G. A. <tf...@za...> - 2001-10-31 14:05:46
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On 31/10/01 10:36:33, salvador wrote: >Alt+F8 == Next message, Alt+F7 == Previous message. This is cool! I didn't know that. Thank you. Thiago |
From: Thiago F.G. A. <tf...@za...> - 2001-10-31 14:05:43
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On 31/10/01 10:40:09, salvador wrote: >> Since we're talking about this: what about a 'search' sLisp command? > >Please elaborate. This is not high priority stuff. I just mentioned it because the subject came up. The idea is to have a macro like this: (defmacro 'search-word-under-cursor' (eval (Search (WordUnderCursor) sWholeWords sCaseSensitive) ) ) Then with just one key stroke, you would jump to the next occurence of the word under cursor in the text. Of course the user can choose if he/she likes this to be case sensive, etc. modifying the macro. 'sWholeWords' and 'sCaseSensitive' are constants corresponding to the options in the Find dialog box. The 'Search' primitive has a variable-lenght argument list. If some constant is present, the corresponding option is on; otherwise it is off. Well, that's it. :) Thiago |
From: salvador <sal...@in...> - 2001-10-31 12:37:47
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"Thiago F.G. Albuquerque" wrote: > On 30/10/01 10:41:22, salvador wrote: > > >Martijn Versteegh wrote: > > > >> Hi SET, > >> > >> I have a request. When you do a search the entry line of the search automagically displays > >> the word under the cursor, this is right in most cases, but when a selection > >> is active it would IMHO be more logical to let it use that. > >> > >> This way you can mark a block of text, press CTRL-Q F and find that block immediately. > >> What do you think? > > > >Don't know, it will confuse people acustomed to the Borland behavior. > > I like Martijn's idea. Maybe it could be optional, so that the Borland people don't get pissed > off. I think the 2 available methodes are enough. Of course you can add it to the "Features request" tracking system in S.F. from time to time I add things that I don't really like/need/agree because enough users asks for it. > Since we're talking about this: what about a 'search' sLisp command? Please elaborate. SET -- Salvador Eduardo Tropea (SET). (Electronics Engineer) Visit my home page: http://welcome.to/SetSoft or http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Vista/6552/ Alternative e-mail: se...@co... se...@ie... Address: Curapaligue 2124, Caseros, 3 de Febrero Buenos Aires, (1678), ARGENTINA Phone: +(5411) 4759 0013 |
From: salvador <sal...@in...> - 2001-10-31 12:34:13
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"Thiago F.G. Albuquerque" wrote: > Hi, SET, > > I have another request. I would like to have a "ShowMessageWindow" command. As the name says, it > shows the message window! :) Opens it or, if it is already open, move the focus to it. > > Why I am asking this? > > Imagine you just compiled some code. It had some compilation errors, so now you are in the Message > Window. You press enter, and you are taken to the file and line where the error occured. You > correct the error and now you want to go back to the message window to move to the next error. > That's the problem. There's no shortcut to do this directly. Alt+F8 == Next message, Alt+F7 == Previous message. You'll see them when the Message window is selected. When an editor is selected they are available but doesn't fit in the status bar. This is defined in menubind.smn. Section 11.7 of the 0.4.50 manual describes it (Misc.|Message Window). > You can press alt-0 and select the > message window from the list, you can grab the mouse and click on it (if it is visible) or you can > find out the number of the window and press alt+number. > > As I do this many times a day, it would be good to have a command that I could bind to a single > key stroke. Alt+F7/F8 are also used by RHIDE because BC++ 3.1 had it ;-) For terminals where these combinations are unavailable you can redefine it in menubind.smn. SET -- Salvador Eduardo Tropea (SET). (Electronics Engineer) Visit my home page: http://welcome.to/SetSoft or http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Vista/6552/ Alternative e-mail: se...@co... se...@ie... Address: Curapaligue 2124, Caseros, 3 de Febrero Buenos Aires, (1678), ARGENTINA Phone: +(5411) 4759 0013 |
From: Grzegorz A. H. <gr...@te...> - 2001-10-31 06:18:05
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On Tue, Oct 30, 2001 at 09:41:33PM -0200, Thiago F.G. Albuquerque wrote: > Imagine you just compiled some code. It had some compilation errors, > so now you are in the Message Window. You press enter, and you are taken > to the file and line where the error occured. You correct the error and > now you want to go back to the message window to move to the next error. > That's the problem. There's no shortcut to do this directly. I press Alt+F6. Since the message window was the last visited window, using the PrevWindow command brings you back to it. -- Grzegorz Adam Hankiewicz gr...@te... http://gradha.infierno.org/ |
From: Thiago F.G. A. <tf...@za...> - 2001-10-31 03:11:30
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On 30/10/01 10:41:22, salvador wrote: >Martijn Versteegh wrote: > >> Hi SET, >> >> I have a request. When you do a search the entry line of the search automagically displays >> the word under the cursor, this is right in most cases, but when a selection >> is active it would IMHO be more logical to let it use that. >> >> This way you can mark a block of text, press CTRL-Q F and find that block immediately. >> What do you think? > >Don't know, it will confuse people acustomed to the Borland behavior. I like Martijn's idea. Maybe it could be optional, so that the Borland people don't get pissed off. Since we're talking about this: what about a 'search' sLisp command? Thiago |
From: Thiago F.G. A. <tf...@za...> - 2001-10-30 23:42:18
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Hi, SET, I have another request. I would like to have a "ShowMessageWindow" command. As the name says, it shows the message window! :) Opens it or, if it is already open, move the focus to it. Why I am asking this? Imagine you just compiled some code. It had some compilation errors, so now you are in the Message Window. You press enter, and you are taken to the file and line where the error occured. You correct the error and now you want to go back to the message window to move to the next error. That's the problem. There's no shortcut to do this directly. You can press alt-0 and select the message window from the list, you can grab the mouse and click on it (if it is visible) or you can find out the number of the window and press alt+number. As I do this many times a day, it would be good to have a command that I could bind to a single key stroke. Thiago |
From: salvador <sal...@in...> - 2001-10-30 21:41:56
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Ivan Baldo wrote: > Hey!!!! > I never done that!!! > I didn't know that you could expand the text that way!!! > Where could I find more information about tricks like that? In the sources ;-)))) This "piped text" feature is available in Borland editors. I think I discovered it by accident. A long time ago users asked to support it because BC++ 3.1 editor had it. With the time it became an obvious thing ;-) so I never documented it properly. I don't really know where should I put it. SET -- Salvador Eduardo Tropea (SET). (Electronics Engineer) Visit my home page: http://welcome.to/SetSoft or http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Vista/6552/ Alternative e-mail: se...@co... se...@ie... Address: Curapaligue 2124, Caseros, 3 de Febrero Buenos Aires, (1678), ARGENTINA Phone: +(5411) 4759 0013 |
From: Ivan B. <lu...@ad...> - 2001-10-30 21:07:01
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Hey!!!! I never done that!!! I didn't know that you could expand the text that way!!! Where could I find more information about tricks like that? salvador wrote: > > Martijn Versteegh wrote: > > > Hi SET, > > > > I have a request. When you do a search the entry line of the search automagically displays > > the word under the cursor, this is right in most cases, but when a selection > > is active it would IMHO be more logical to let it use that. > > > > This way you can mark a block of text, press CTRL-Q F and find that block immediately. > > What do you think? > > Don't know, it will confuse people acustomed to the Borland behavior. > You can: > 1) Select text. > 2) Copy it to clipboard. > 3) ^Q-F > 4) Paste it. > > A couple of extra keystrokes but works. > You can also put the cursor over the first word and then use the right arrow to take more > than one word in the input line, this is similar to selecting the text. > > SET > > -- > Salvador Eduardo Tropea (SET). (Electronics Engineer) > Visit my home page: http://welcome.to/SetSoft or > http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Vista/6552/ > Alternative e-mail: se...@co... se...@ie... > Address: Curapaligue 2124, Caseros, 3 de Febrero > Buenos Aires, (1678), ARGENTINA Phone: +(5411) 4759 0013 > > _______________________________________________ > Setedit-users mailing list > Set...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/setedit-users -- Ivan Baldo: lu...@ad... - http://go.to/ibaldo - ICQ 10215364 Phone: (598) (2) 613 3223. Caldas 1781, 11400 Malvin, Montevideo, Uruguay, South America. (If you have problems with the previous addresses, try this ones: ib...@us..., http://members.xoom.com/baldo.1). |
From: salvador <sal...@in...> - 2001-10-30 12:40:05
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Martijn Versteegh wrote: > Hi SET, > > I have a request. When you do a search the entry line of the search automagically displays > the word under the cursor, this is right in most cases, but when a selection > is active it would IMHO be more logical to let it use that. > > This way you can mark a block of text, press CTRL-Q F and find that block immediately. > What do you think? Don't know, it will confuse people acustomed to the Borland behavior. You can: 1) Select text. 2) Copy it to clipboard. 3) ^Q-F 4) Paste it. A couple of extra keystrokes but works. You can also put the cursor over the first word and then use the right arrow to take more than one word in the input line, this is similar to selecting the text. SET -- Salvador Eduardo Tropea (SET). (Electronics Engineer) Visit my home page: http://welcome.to/SetSoft or http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Vista/6552/ Alternative e-mail: se...@co... se...@ie... Address: Curapaligue 2124, Caseros, 3 de Febrero Buenos Aires, (1678), ARGENTINA Phone: +(5411) 4759 0013 |
From: Martijn V. <m.v...@hc...> - 2001-10-29 21:57:53
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Hi SET, I have a request. When you do a search the entry line of the search automagically displays the word under the cursor, this is right in most cases, but when a selection is active it would IMHO be more logical to let it use that. This way you can mark a block of text, press CTRL-Q F and find that block immediately. What do you think? -- Martijn Versteegh |
From: salvador <sal...@in...> - 2001-10-29 14:47:08
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I wrote: > "Thiago F.G. Albuquerque" wrote: > > > >And I think that's > > >(if (not (strcmp "#i")) (InsertText "...")) > > > > > >strcmp is just like the C function, so a match is 0, that's why I need the `not', `if' is just > > >like the C counterpart. > > > > This doesn't work, because this 'not' is bitwise. So (not 1) returns -2, which is also true. > > You have the "&" operator ;-) > But I think a not operator is needed. Ok, now (not 1) is 0 and (not 1) is 1, the old behavior is assigned to the ~ operator (a new one). I also found a couple of bugs: you couldn't enter (~ -2) and after it any run gave errors (because the error wasn't reset). I also added hexadecimals to the shl because they are supported. In another mail with subject "Re: Evaluate selection" > > This is what I have in mind: > > > > You don't need to select. > > > > You position the cursor under the first character of the expression to be evaluated (or before). > > If the first non-blank character is '(', then read up to the matching ')'. Otherwise, this must > > be a variable name. So, read the next identifier and print it's value or "Variable unbound" in > > the status line (or the message window). > > > > In both cases, the value of the expression is printed in a new line. So, to evaluate > > > > (not 1) > > > > you move the cursor to '(' and run the command. Then you get > > > > (not 1) > > -2 > > Hmmm... not sure. What about "piping" the option to manually enter the code to execute like some > input lines that take the word under cursor and make it take the "code under cursor". > The returned value should go to the message window with any other diagnostic thing. > Opinions? I implemented it. > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > One other thing: what sLisp calls "eval" is called "progn" in LISP. How about changing the name? > > So that users that have a LISP background don't get confused. > > Perhaps an alias, this will avoid breaking old macros. Implemented. ---------- back to first mail: > > ------------------------------------------------ > > > > Also, there's something I'd like to ask. I would like to be able to close the Message Window with > > ESC. > > Will see. Implemented, it helps a lot when running a small code and the return value is printed in the message box. SET -- Salvador Eduardo Tropea (SET). (Electronics Engineer) Visit my home page: http://welcome.to/SetSoft or http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Vista/6552/ Alternative e-mail: se...@co... se...@ie... Address: Curapaligue 2124, Caseros, 3 de Febrero Buenos Aires, (1678), ARGENTINA Phone: +(5411) 4759 0013 |
From: salvador <sal...@in...> - 2001-10-29 13:54:14
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"Thiago F.G. Albuquerque" wrote: > On 26/10/01 13:46:17, salvador wrote: > > >Hmmm... not sure. What about "piping" the option to manually enter the code to execute like > some > >input lines that take the word under cursor and make it take the "code under cursor". > >The returned value should go to the message window with any other diagnostic thing. > >Opinions? > > I'm sorry, I didn't understand. Can you explain it in a different way? Ok: When you are over a word and you do a search (^Q-F) the input line in the dialog takes the word under the cursor. The editor looks for the whole word, it doesn't matter if you are in the middle of it. Pressing end and then the right arrow you can get the characters after the word. The input line have some kind of "pipe" between their buffer and the editor buffer. The same concept can be (and in fact I implemented it during the weekend) applied to sLisp code. Now the editor takes the "sLisp code under the cursor" and puts it in the input line. Any sLisp function returns a value, this value is printed in the message window, pressing ESC the message window goes away and you are free to modify the sLisp code. I'll put it in the CVS today. SET -- Salvador Eduardo Tropea (SET). (Electronics Engineer) Visit my home page: http://welcome.to/SetSoft or http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Vista/6552/ Alternative e-mail: se...@co... se...@ie... Address: Curapaligue 2124, Caseros, 3 de Febrero Buenos Aires, (1678), ARGENTINA Phone: +(5411) 4759 0013 |