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[Servingxml-help] Flat file structure validation

[Ravikumar T. <ra...@gm...>]

Hi

I am trying to use servingxml to validate and transform flat files to xml. I
am wondering if this toolkit can help validate the flat file which looks as
follows:

Every row is a record with position #1 as record type. Position #2-5 as
filenumber and the rest as misc fields. I want to validate that for every
filenumber, there exists atleast 1 E record followed by 0 or more S records.

E1001FIELD0
S1001FIELD1FIELD2
S1001FIELD3FIELD4
E1002FIELDA
S1002FIELDBFIELDC

Thanks
Ravi

Re: [Servingxml-help] Flat file structure validation

[Daniel P. <dan...@sy...>]

Hello Ravi,

I think you'd have to transform the flat file to XML and express the =
rules in an XML Schema, using the msv:schemaValidator (previously =
msv:msvFilter) to validate the XML.  Alternatively, you could write a =
custom record filter in Java, and buffer enough records until you could =
determine whether they were valid, and discard them or throw an =
exception if you find an error.  But other than that, the tool doesn't =
provide anything special for validating groups of records, as opposed to =
individual records.

Best regards,
Daniel
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Ravikumar Tadysetty=20
  To: ser...@li...=20
  Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 12:16 AM
  Subject: [Servingxml-help] Flat file structure validation


  Hi

  I am trying to use servingxml to validate and transform flat files to =
xml. I am wondering if this toolkit can help validate the flat file =
which looks as follows:

  Every row is a record with position #1 as record type. Position #2-5 =
as filenumber and the rest as misc fields. I want to validate that for =
every filenumber, there exists atleast 1 E record followed by 0 or more =
S records.=20

  E1001FIELD0
  S1001FIELD1FIELD2
  S1001FIELD3FIELD4
  E1002FIELDA
  S1002FIELDBFIELDC

  Thanks
  Ravi



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Re: [Servingxml-help] Flat file structure validation

[Daniel P. <dan...@sy...>]

Yes, in record mapping sections you can define groupings based on the =
previous, current, and next records, check out any of the examples using =
sx:innerGroup.  The case below is no problem, I may use it in as example =
in the element reference. =20

Daniel


  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Ravikumar Tadysetty=20
  To: Daniel Parker=20
  Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2007 4:06 PM
  Subject: Re: [Servingxml-help] Flat file structure validation


  Thanks Daniel. This is helpful.=20
  Another question on the same file structure.

  It looks like serving xml processes one record (using onRecord) at a =
time. Can I have control over 2 record at a time while converting flat =
file to xml.  I want to convert the below flat file as follows. =
Essentially I want to put one field from E record and one field from S =
record into <group1>. So while processing E record, I need information =
from the next record also.=20

  E1001FIELD0
  S1001FIELD1FIELD2
  E1002FIELDA
  S1002FIELDBFIELDC

  TO

  <record fileno=3D1001>
      <group1>
              <a>FIELD0</a>=20
               <b>FIELD2</b>
      </group1>
       <group2>
               <c>FIELD1</c>
        </group2>
   </record>





  On 3/12/07, Daniel Parker <dan...@sy...> wrote:
    Hello Ravi,

    I think you'd have to transform the flat file to XML and express the =
rules in an XML Schema, using the msv:schemaValidator (previously =
msv:msvFilter) to validate the XML.  Alternatively, you could write a =
custom record filter in Java, and buffer enough records until you could =
determine whether they were valid, and discard them or throw an =
exception if you find an error.  But other than that, the tool doesn't =
provide anything special for validating groups of records, as opposed to =
individual records.

    Best regards,
    Daniel
      ----- Original Message -----=20
      From: Ravikumar Tadysetty=20
      To: ser...@li...=20
      Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 12:16 AM
      Subject: [Servingxml-help] Flat file structure validation


      Hi

      I am trying to use servingxml to validate and transform flat files =
to xml. I am wondering if this toolkit can help validate the flat file =
which looks as follows:

      Every row is a record with position #1 as record type. Position =
#2-5 as filenumber and the rest as misc fields. I want to validate that =
for every filenumber, there exists atleast 1 E record followed by 0 or =
more S records.=20

      E1001FIELD0
      S1001FIELD1FIELD2
      S1001FIELD3FIELD4
      E1002FIELDA
      S1002FIELDBFIELDC

      Thanks
      Ravi



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[Servingxml-help] Flat file structure validation

[Daniel P. <dan...@sy...>]

This isn't currently supported, although it could easily be added.=20

The problem is that you have two groups, and the second one immediately =
follows the first one - its first record is the first one's last record. =
 Currently, the two groups must belong to a sx:recordChoice, so any =
given record can belong to only one group at the same level.  However, =
since the first group is finished before the second group begins, I =
believe it's possible to relax the constraints to allow this. =20

Because grouping is streaming, the records aren't buffered, care has to =
be taken not to start a second group before the first one ends, or the =
output tags will be scrambled.  That was the reason for restricting one =
record to only one group at the same level, to prevent surprises, but it =
looks like this restriction is too strong.  I'll have a look at it.

Daniel
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Ravikumar Tadysetty=20
  To: Daniel Parker=20
  Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2007 10:57 PM
  Subject: Re: [Servingxml-help] Flat file structure validation


  Daniel,

  sorry for trouble. I am unable to achieve what I wanted to do. I was =
trying this through the weekend.  I am able to achieve only a part of =
expected output. I am sending my resource script, input file, expected =
output and actual output. I hope you will help me fix the resource =
script to get the expected output. I am sending the resource script as =
attachment.=20

  Input - ytds.txt

  E1002FIELD0
  S1002FIELD1FIELD2

  ExpectedOutput:

  <record fileno=3D1001>
      <group1>
              <a>FIELD0</a>=20
               <b>FIELD2</b>
      </group1>
       <group2>
               <c>FIELD1</c>
        </group2>
   </record>

  ActualOutput:

  <record fileno=3D1001>
      <group1>
              <a>FIELD0</a>=20
               <b>FIELD2</b>
      </group1>
   </record>

  Regards
  Ravi


  On 3/22/07, Daniel Parker <dan...@sy... > wrote:=20
    Yes, in record mapping sections you can define groupings based on =
the previous, current, and next records, check out any of the examples =
using sx:innerGroup.  The case below is no problem, I may use it in as =
example in the element reference. =20

    Daniel


      ----- Original Message -----=20
      From: Ravikumar Tadysetty=20
      To: Daniel Parker=20
      Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2007 4:06 PM
      Subject: Re: [Servingxml-help] Flat file structure validation


      Thanks Daniel. This is helpful.=20
      Another question on the same file structure.

      It looks like serving xml processes one record (using onRecord) at =
a time. Can I have control over 2 record at a time while converting flat =
file to xml.  I want to convert the below flat file as follows. =
Essentially I want to put one field from E record and one field from S =
record into <group1>. So while processing E record, I need information =
from the next record also.=20

      E1001FIELD0
      S1001FIELD1FIELD2
      E1002FIELDA
      S1002FIELDBFIELDC

      TO

      <record fileno=3D1001>
          <group1>
                  <a>FIELD0</a>=20
                   <b>FIELD2</b>
          </group1>
           <group2>
                   <c>FIELD1</c>
            </group2>
       </record>





      On 3/12/07, Daniel Parker <dan...@sy...> wrote:=20
        Hello Ravi,

        I think you'd have to transform the flat file to XML and express =
the rules in an XML Schema, using the msv:schemaValidator (previously =
msv:msvFilter) to validate the XML.  Alternatively, you could write a =
custom record filter in Java, and buffer enough records until you could =
determine whether they were valid, and discard them or throw an =
exception if you find an error.  But other than that, the tool doesn't =
provide anything special for validating groups of records, as opposed to =
individual records.

        Best regards,
        Daniel
          ----- Original Message -----=20
          From: Ravikumar Tadysetty=20
          To: ser...@li...=20
          Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 12:16 AM
          Subject: [Servingxml-help] Flat file structure validation


          Hi

          I am trying to use servingxml to validate and transform flat =
files to xml. I am wondering if this toolkit can help validate the flat =
file which looks as follows:

          Every row is a record with position #1 as record type. =
Position #2-5 as filenumber and the rest as misc fields. I want to =
validate that for every filenumber, there exists atleast 1 E record =
followed by 0 or more S records.=20

          E1001FIELD0
          S1001FIELD1FIELD2
          S1001FIELD3FIELD4
          E1002FIELDA
          S1002FIELDBFIELDC

          Thanks
          Ravi



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Re: [Servingxml-help] Flat file structure validation

[Daniel P. <dan...@sy...>]

Ravi,

This is now supported in version 0.6.6.  Refer to the element reference =
entry for sx:innerGroup, to the last example.

-- Daniel


  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Ravikumar Tadysetty=20
  To: Daniel Parker=20
  Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2007 10:57 PM
  Subject: Re: [Servingxml-help] Flat file structure validation


  Daniel,

  sorry for trouble. I am unable to achieve what I wanted to do. I was =
trying this through the weekend.  I am able to achieve only a part of =
expected output. I am sending my resource script, input file, expected =
output and actual output. I hope you will help me fix the resource =
script to get the expected output. I am sending the resource script as =
attachment.=20

  Input - ytds.txt

  E1002FIELD0
  S1002FIELD1FIELD2

  ExpectedOutput:

  <record fileno=3D1001>
      <group1>
              <a>FIELD0</a>=20
               <b>FIELD2</b>
      </group1>
       <group2>
               <c>FIELD1</c>
        </group2>
   </record>

  ActualOutput:

  <record fileno=3D1001>
      <group1>
              <a>FIELD0</a>=20
               <b>FIELD2</b>
      </group1>
   </record>

  Regards
  Ravi


  On 3/22/07, Daniel Parker <dan...@sy... > wrote:
    Yes, in record mapping sections you can define groupings based on =
the previous, current, and next records, check out any of the examples =
using sx:innerGroup.  The case below is no problem, I may use it in as =
example in the element reference. =20

    Daniel


      ----- Original Message -----=20
      From: Ravikumar Tadysetty=20
      To: Daniel Parker=20
      Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2007 4:06 PM
      Subject: Re: [Servingxml-help] Flat file structure validation


      Thanks Daniel. This is helpful.=20
      Another question on the same file structure.

      It looks like serving xml processes one record (using onRecord) at =
a time. Can I have control over 2 record at a time while converting flat =
file to xml.  I want to convert the below flat file as follows. =
Essentially I want to put one field from E record and one field from S =
record into <group1>. So while processing E record, I need information =
from the next record also.=20

      E1001FIELD0
      S1001FIELD1FIELD2
      E1002FIELDA
      S1002FIELDBFIELDC

      TO

      <record fileno=3D1001>
          <group1>
                  <a>FIELD0</a>=20
                   <b>FIELD2</b>
          </group1>
           <group2>
                   <c>FIELD1</c>
            </group2>
       </record>





      On 3/12/07, Daniel Parker <dan...@sy...> wrote:=20
        Hello Ravi,

        I think you'd have to transform the flat file to XML and express =
the rules in an XML Schema, using the msv:schemaValidator (previously =
msv:msvFilter) to validate the XML.  Alternatively, you could write a =
custom record filter in Java, and buffer enough records until you could =
determine whether they were valid, and discard them or throw an =
exception if you find an error.  But other than that, the tool doesn't =
provide anything special for validating groups of records, as opposed to =
individual records.

        Best regards,
        Daniel
          ----- Original Message -----=20
          From: Ravikumar Tadysetty=20
          To: ser...@li...=20
          Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 12:16 AM
          Subject: [Servingxml-help] Flat file structure validation


          Hi

          I am trying to use servingxml to validate and transform flat =
files to xml. I am wondering if this toolkit can help validate the flat =
file which looks as follows:

          Every row is a record with position #1 as record type. =
Position #2-5 as filenumber and the rest as misc fields. I want to =
validate that for every filenumber, there exists atleast 1 E record =
followed by 0 or more S records.=20

          E1001FIELD0
          S1001FIELD1FIELD2
          S1001FIELD3FIELD4
          E1002FIELDA
          S1002FIELDBFIELDC

          Thanks
          Ravi



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Re: [Servingxml-help] Flat file structure validation

[Ravikumar T. <ra...@gm...>]

yup. That is exactly what we are doing today.

On 5/10/07, Daniel Parker <ser...@li...> wrote:
>
>  Sorry for the delayed response.
>
> Buffering isn't as simple as that.  It has to be optional, since some
> users are using this tool with very large datasets.  Also, note that record
> filters can remove some records from a stream, so what was once the previous
> record is no longer.
>
> For now, I would suggest using a custom record filter, do your own
> buffering, and modify the current record by adding the fields you need from
> previous records.
>
> Daniel
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Ravikumar Tadysetty <ra...@gm...>
> *To:* Daniel Parker <dan...@sy...>
> *Sent:* Sunday, May 06, 2007 9:03 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [Servingxml-help] Flat file structure validation
>
> Daniel
>
> For situations like this one (or more complicated than this), can we do
> something like:
>
> group all records by file number.
> Hold all those records in a memory buffer.
> Provide a facility to access that memory buffer in the record mapping
> section.
> eg:
>
> <group1>
>      <a> ERecord->[0] </a>
>      <b> SRecord->[1] </b>
>  <group1>
>   <group2>
>        <c>SRecord->[0]</c>
>       <d>ERecord->[1]</d>
>    </group2>
>
> This way we can access data of any record in that group from any element
> of the xml. One of the main constraints today is that servingxml mapping
> processes one record at a time. Once that record is processed, it cannot be
> accessed further. We donot have the ability to look-ahead or look-behind
> while processing a record in a group.
>
>
> On 5/5/07, Ravikumar Tadysetty <ra...@gm...> wrote:
> >
> > Daniel, Thank you. Really waiting for this. However this was only a part
> > of the puzzle. I wanted more flexibility. Please see the below example. I
> > added one more field and I cannot achieve this now. Can you suggest
> > something for this type of situation. Essentially, while printing <group2> I
> > want the data from the previous record.
> >
> > From the previous example, I added 2 new fields FIELDX, FIELDY. I want
> > to put FIELDX from ERecord and FIELD1 from SRecord in <group2>.
> >
> > FROM
> >
> > E1001FIELD0FIELDX
> > S1001FIELD1FIELD2
> >
> > E1002FIELDAFIELDY
> >
> > S1002FIELDBFIELDC
> >
> > TO
> >
> > <ytds>
> >   <record fileno="1001">
> >     <group1>
> >       <a>FIELD0</a>
> >       <b>FIELD2</b>
> >     </group1>
> >
> >
> >     <group2>
> >       <c>FIELD1</c>
> >       <d>FIELDX</d>
> >     </group2>
> >   </record>
> >   <record fileno="1002">
> >     <group1>
> >       <a>FIELDA</a>
> >
> >
> >       <b>FIELDC</b>
> >     </group1>
> >     <group2>
> >       <c>FIELDB</c>
> >       <d>FIELDY</d>
> >     </group2>
> >   </record>
> > </ytds>
> >
> >
> >
> > On 4/29/07, Daniel Parker <dan...@sy... > wrote:
> > >
> > >  Ravi,
> > >
> > > This is now supported in version 0.6.6.  Refer to the element
> > > reference entry for sx:innerGroup, to the last example.
> > >
> > > -- Daniel
> > >
> > >  ----- Original Message -----
> > > *From:* Ravikumar Tadysetty <ra...@gm...>
> > > *To:* Daniel Parker <dan...@sy...>
> > >  *Sent:* Sunday, March 25, 2007 10:57 PM
> > > *Subject:* Re: [Servingxml-help] Flat file structure validation
> > >
> > > Daniel,
> > >
> > > sorry for trouble. I am unable to achieve what I wanted to do. I was
> > > trying this through the weekend.  I am able to achieve only a part of
> > > expected output. I am sending my resource script, input file, expected
> > > output and actual output. I hope you will help me fix the resource script to
> > > get the expected output. I am sending the resource script as attachment.
> > >
> > > Input - ytds.txt
> > >
> > > E1002FIELD0
> > > S1002FIELD1FIELD2
> > >
> > > ExpectedOutput:
> > >
> > > <record fileno=1001>
> > >     <group1>
> > >             <a>FIELD0</a>
> > >              <b>FIELD2</b>
> > >     </group1>
> > >      <group2>
> > >              <c>FIELD1</c>
> > >       </group2>
> > >  </record>
> > >
> > > ActualOutput:
> > >
> > > <record fileno=1001>
> > >     <group1>
> > >             <a>FIELD0</a>
> > >              <b>FIELD2</b>
> > >     </group1>
> > >  </record>
> > >
> > > Regards
> > > Ravi
> > >
> > > On 3/22/07, Daniel Parker <dan...@sy... > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >  Yes, in record mapping sections you can define groupings based on
> > > > the previous, current, and next records, check out any of the examples using
> > > > sx:innerGroup.  The case below is no problem, I may use it in as example in
> > > > the element reference.
> > > >
> > > > Daniel
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > *From:* Ravikumar Tadysetty <ra...@gm...>
> > > >  *To:* Daniel Parker <dan...@sy...>
> > > > *Sent:* Thursday, March 22, 2007 4:06 PM
> > > > *Subject:* Re: [Servingxml-help] Flat file structure validation
> > > >
> > > > Thanks Daniel. This is helpful.
> > > > Another question on the same file structure.
> > > >
> > > > It looks like serving xml processes one record (using onRecord) at a
> > > > time. Can I have control over 2 record at a time while converting flat file
> > > > to xml.  I want to convert the below flat file as follows. Essentially I
> > > > want to put one field from E record and one field from S record into
> > > > <group1>. So while processing E record, I need information from the next
> > > > record also.
> > > >
> > > > E1001FIELD0
> > > > S1001FIELD1FIELD2
> > > > E1002FIELDA
> > > > S1002FIELDBFIELDC
> > > >
> > > > TO
> > > >
> > > > <record fileno=1001>
> > > >     <group1>
> > > >             <a>FIELD0</a>
> > > >              <b>FIELD2</b>
> > > >     </group1>
> > > >      <group2>
> > > >              <c>FIELD1</c>
> > > >       </group2>
> > > >  </record>
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 3/12/07, Daniel Parker <dan...@sy...> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >  Hello Ravi,
> > > > >
> > > > > I think you'd have to transform the flat file to XML and express
> > > > > the rules in an XML Schema, using the msv:schemaValidator (previously
> > > > > msv:msvFilter) to validate the XML.  Alternatively, you could write a custom
> > > > > record filter in Java, and buffer enough records until you could determine
> > > > > whether they were valid, and discard them or throw an exception if you find
> > > > > an error.  But other than that, the tool doesn't provide anything special
> > > > > for validating groups of records, as opposed to individual records.
> > > > >
> > > > > Best regards,
> > > > > Daniel
> > > > >
> > > > >  ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > *From:* Ravikumar Tadysetty <ra...@gm...>
> > > > > *To:* ser...@li...
> > > > > *Sent:* Friday, March 09, 2007 12:16 AM
> > > > > *Subject:* [Servingxml-help] Flat file structure validation
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi
> > > > >
> > > > > I am trying to use servingxml to validate and transform flat files
> > > > > to xml. I am wondering if this toolkit can help validate the flat file which
> > > > > looks as follows:
> > > > >
> > > > > Every row is a record with position #1 as record type. Position
> > > > > #2-5 as filenumber and the rest as misc fields. I want to validate that for
> > > > > every filenumber, there exists atleast 1 E record followed by 0 or more S
> > > > > records.
> > > > >
> > > > > E1001FIELD0
> > > > > S1001FIELD1FIELD2
> > > > > S1001FIELD3FIELD4
> > > > > E1002FIELDA
> > > > > S1002FIELDBFIELDC
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks
> > > > > Ravi
> > > > >
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