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[Senseclusters-users] web interfaces down for upgrades

[Ted P. <tpederse@d.umn.edu>]

Greetings all,

The web interfaces for WordNet::Similarity,
WordNet::SenseRelate::AllWords, and SenseClusters are all down due to
a long overdue upgrade. But, at least one of our systems will be back
before 5pm Friday April 27, perhaps both.

These interfaces will continue to be located at the following URLs
once they are back:

http://marimba.d.umn.edu
http://talisker.d.umn.edu

Sorry for the short notice, but hopefully things will be back in a day
or two. If you really need something run *now* let me know and I'll
see what I can do to assist.

Cordially,
Ted

-- 
Ted Pedersen
http://www.d.umn.edu/~tpederse

[Senseclusters-users] new SenseClusters paper at ACM-IHI 2010

[Ted P. <tpederse@d.umn.edu>]

I'll be presenting a new SenseClusters-related paper next week at a
Health Informatics conference.

The Effect of Different Context Representations on Word Sense
Discrimination in Biomedical Texts  (Pedersen) - To Appear in the
Proceedings of the 1st ACM International Health Informatics Symposium,
November 2010, Arlington, VA
http://www.d.umn.edu/~tpederse/Pubs/acm-ihi-2010-pedersen.pdf

This paper compares the two different ways that SenseClusters
represents second order features (word by word co-occurrences and word
by context co-occurrences) and generally finds that word by word
co-occurrences are more effective. It also finds that PK2 cluster
stopping continues to be the most reliable of our cluster stopping
methods, and that SVD has a minimal or negative effect on these
representations.

All of these findings are consistent with previous work we've done,
but I thought this was worth reporting since it deals with biomedical
texts whereas our previous work has been in general English (newswire
text and so forth).

In any case, your comments or suggestions are always welcome.

Cordially,
Ted

-- 
Ted Pedersen
http://www.d.umn.edu/~tpederse

Re: [Senseclusters-users] [Senseclusters-developers] Text::SenseCluster example please

[Ted P. <dul...@gm...>]

Hi Sujana,

Thanks for writing - SenseClusters is primarily a command line oriented
tool, so you can't really use it like a traditional Perl module (where you
have methods that you embed in a Perl program). Rather, you would probably
use it from the command line, or you could your system (  ) calls within a
Perl program (or a bash script, or within any programming language that
supports system ( ) )

On to your question - while you could possibly use SenseClusters to compare
1 short text with 2 other ones (to measure text similarity), the intended
use of SenseClusters is more so in clustering larger number of short
contexts (perhaps 100 or 1000 of them). So, while you could use some of the
individual components in SenseClusters to do what you are describing, it
would take a bit of digging to get the results back in a form that would be
useful for your intended use.

The key to doing that would be to represent each of your texts as a short
context in the SenseEval-2 format that SenseClusters uses for input.
Probably the best source of information about what SenseClusters does and
how it does that can be found here :

http://search.cpan.org/dist/Text-SenseClusters/Toolkit/README.Toolkit.pod

Also, you can get some idea of the intended uses of SenseClusters through
the following paper (which doesn't really talk about SenseClusters
specifically, but it was definately what I was thinking about when I wrote
this...

http://www.d.umn.edu/~tpederse/Pubs/pedersen-salr-2007.pdf

Computational Approaches to Measuring the Similarity of Short Contexts : A
Review of Applications and Methods
<http://www.d.umn.edu/~tpederse/Pubs/pedersen-salr-2007.pdf>(Pedersen), to
appear in the South Asian Language Review <http://salr.net/>(Also available
from CMP-LG E-Print Archive as 0806.3787) <http://arxiv.org/abs/0806.3787>

I hope this is of some help. If you remain interested in trying to use
SenseClusters for your work I'd be happy to look in a little more detail at
what you are trying to do, and figure out how SenseClusters might do that.

Cordially,
Ted


On Mon, May 31, 2010 at 4:11 AM, Mrs sujana jyothi
<suj...@ya...>wrote:

>   Hi,
>
> I am Sujana doing my phd at National University of Ireland Maynooth. A part
> of my research is text comparision. I am looking at how one text can be
> compaired to few other texts and find if the preceeding texts are relevant
> to the first one (content analysis). I was looking at LSA which looks at the
> similarity between texts (one-to-many). Then I stumbled on
> Text::SenseCluster which does take LSA into consideration.
>
> My query is: Does SenseCluster helps to find if the 2nd, 3rd and so on
> texts(paragraphs) are similar to the first text (a paragraph)?
> Could you please provide with an example or atleast a link which guides me
> how to use this perl module in a perl code...
> Does this module already have a corpus which can compare paragraphs?
>
> I would be grateful if I could get some help in this regard from your end.
> I dont think anybody else has used this module as of yet....so I couldnt get
> help on the internet.
>
> Many Thanks.
> Regards,
> Sujana.
>
>
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Ted Pedersen
http://www.d.umn.edu/~tpederse

[Senseclusters-users] SenseClusters at SemEval-2

[Ted P. <tpederse@d.umn.edu>]

Greetings all,

I recently participated in the Sense Induction task of Semeval-2, and
found it to be a very interesting and worthwhile
experience. http://www.cs.york.ac.uk/semeval2010_WSI/index.html

The final camera-ready version of the paper that describes that
experience is now available here:

http://www.d.umn.edu/~tpederse/Pubs/pedersen-semeval2-2010.pdf

Duluth-WSI: SenseClusters Applied to the Sense Induction Task of
SemEval-2 (Pedersen) - To Appear in the
Proceedings of the SemEval 2010 Workshop : the 5th International
Workshop on Semantic Evaluations, July 15-16,
2010, Uppsala, Sweden

In the end it turns out that much of this paper is really more about
the evaluation methods of the task than it is my
participating system, although I do give some details of what I
attempted in my systems (all of which is available
fairly directly from SenseClusters http://senseclusters.sourceforge.net)

In any case, I do have some concerns about how we do unsupervised
evaluations which I've tried to lay out in this
paper, and I continue to think (although it's not explicitly stated in
this paper) that the F-score we have been using for
evaluation in SenseClusters is pretty reliable. I think it is
necessary (but not sufficient) that an evaluation measure for
unsupervised sense induction (or discrimination as we tend to call it)
do the following:

1) Not be fooled by random baselines. A random system should get a
painfully low score. :)
2) Reward systems that predict the correct number of senses (relative
to the gold standard) and penalize those that
get the number of clusters wrong with increasing severity as the
actual and predicted number of senses differ.

Interestingly enough some of the evaluation measures in this task did
not meet either or both of these conditions,
which is part of what prompted the focus of this particular paper.

The paired F-score that was used in the SemEval-2 task is fairly
similar to the SenseClusters F-score, and I think both
of these meet the above conditions reasonably well. But, I'll be doing
a more formal and comprehensive comparison
between them and other possible evaluation methods in the near future
to try and establish just how well, and maybe
formulate a set of necessary and sufficient conditions that we should
try to meet.

Any other thoughts and ideas about how to evaluate unsupervised sense
induction systems are of course very
welcome.

Enjoy,
Ted

-- 
Ted Pedersen
http://www.d.umn.edu/~tpederse

Re: [Senseclusters-users] error running senseclusters

[Ted P. <dul...@gm...>]

Hi Julio,

I followed Pranava's advice and set this environment variable on
marimba, and was able to run your data through SenseClusters.

The output of this...

discriminate.pl "user-test.xml" --format f16.06 --token "token.regex"
--feature bi --stop stopfile --remove 5 --context o2 --clusters 10
--space vector --clmethod rb --crfun i2 --sim cos --label_remove 5
--label_stat ll --label_rank 10 --prefix "user"

is found here...

http://marimba.d.umn.edu/SC-htdocs/user1273066995/

Then I tried to do more or less what you were doing...

discriminate.pl "user-test.xml" --lsa --format f16.06 --token
"token.regex" --feature bi --stop stopfile --remove 5 --context o2
--clusters 8 --space vector --clmethod rb --crfun i2 --sim cos
--label_remove 5 --label_stat ll --label_rank 10 --eval --prefix
"user"

And the output from that is here:

http://marimba.d.umn.edu/SC-htdocs/user1273067206/

So, I think Pranava's suggestion has fixed the problem! I will also
make this change on our backup server (http://talisker.d.umn.edu).

Please let us know if any additional questions arise.

Good luck!
Ted

On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 11:07 PM, Pranava Swaroop Madhyastha
<pma...@ac...> wrote:
> Hi Julio,
>
> I hope you are using Bash,
> Try doing :
>
> export PERL_UNICODE=SDA
>
> on the terminal before running the code.
>
> If it works add this line to your .bash_profile.
>
>
> --
> Pranava Swaroop
>
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-- 
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http://www.d.umn.edu/~tpederse

Re: [Senseclusters-users] error running senseclusters

[Pranava S. M. <pma...@ac...>]

Hi Julio,

I hope you are using Bash,
Try doing :

export PERL_UNICODE=SDA

on the terminal before running the code.

If it works add this line to your .bash_profile.


--
Pranava Swaroop

Re: [Senseclusters-users] error running senseclusters

[Ted P. <dul...@gm...>]

Hi Julio,

Thanks for your note, and I'll look into this in more detail by
tomorrow. But, I am a little concerned about the locale settings on
marimba. To be honest I don't have enough experience with Portuguese
text to know if these settings should be a problem or not (but it's
the first thing I thought of, especially since that error from the
stoplist suggests that a regex is incomplete or invalid - however, a
visual inspect of your stoplist suggests that is is formatted just
fine.

These are the locale settings on marimba - do you think these could be
a part of the problem?

ted@marimba:~$ locale
LANG=en_US.UTF-8
LC_CTYPE="en_US.UTF-8"
LC_NUMERIC="en_US.UTF-8"
LC_TIME="en_US.UTF-8"
LC_COLLATE="en_US.UTF-8"
LC_MONETARY="en_US.UTF-8"
LC_MESSAGES="en_US.UTF-8"
LC_PAPER="en_US.UTF-8"
LC_NAME="en_US.UTF-8"
LC_ADDRESS="en_US.UTF-8"
LC_TELEPHONE="en_US.UTF-8"
LC_MEASUREMENT="en_US.UTF-8"
LC_IDENTIFICATION="en_US.UTF-8"
LC_ALL=

I'll do some more testing tomorrow, but just wanted to raise this issue for now.

Thanks for your interest, I'll be back in touch shortly.

Cordially,
Ted

2010/5/4 Julio Cesar dos Reis <jul...@ct...>:
> Hello.
> I'm a new user of senseclusters and I have trying to make some tests with a
> corpus, however I got some error and I don't know how to fix or better
> improve the options of the parameters to overcome it.
>
> Could anybody help me?
>
> I'm using the marimba server.
>
> the options was
>
>
>       discriminate.pl "user-test.xml" --lsa --format f16.06 --token
>       "token.regex" --feature bi --stop stopfile --context o2
>       --clusters 8 --space vector --clmethod agglo --crfun i2 --sim
>       cos --label_stop label_stopfile --label_stat ll --label_rank 10
>       --eval --prefix "user"
>
>
>     and I got:
>
>
>     There was an error while running this experiment.
>
>
> Ignoring regex with no delimiters: @stop.mode=OR
>
> Ignoring regex with no delimiters: @stop.mode=OR
>
> ERROR(discriminate.pl):
>
>        Only 0 FEATURES found in the  file.
>        At least 10 FEATURES required to proceed with context
>        representation.
>
>
>
> *_the files used (corpus and stopwords in portuguese) are attached_*
>
>
> I'm waiting for answering
>
> Best Regards
>
> Júlio
>
>
> @stop.mode=OR
> /\b[a-zA-Z]\b/
> /\b[úÚ]último\b/
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> /\b[mM]meu\b/
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> /\b[mM]muitos\b/
> /\b[nN]nós\b/
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> /\b[nN]nome\b/
> /\b[nN]nosso\b/
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> /\b[oO]o\b/
> /\b[oO]onde\b/
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> /\b[pP]para\b/
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> /\b[pP]pegar\b/
> /\b[pP]pelo\b/
> /\b[pP]pessoas\b/
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> /\b[pP]poderá   \b/
> /\b[pP]podia\b/
> /\b[pP]por\b/
> /\b[pP]porque\b/
> /\b[pP]povo\b/
> /\b[pP]promeiro\b/
> /\b[qQ]quê\b/
> /\b[qQ]qual\b/
> /\b[qQ]qualquer\b/
> /\b[qQ]quando\b/
> /\b[qQ]quem\b/
> /\b[qQ]quieto\b/
> /\b[sS]são\b/
> /\b[sS]saber\b/
> /\b[sS]sem\b/
> /\b[sS]ser\b/
> /\b[sS]seu\b/
> /\b[sS]somente\b/
> /\b[tT]têm\b/
> /\b[tT]tal\b/
> /\b[tT]também\b/
> /\b[tT]tem\b/
> /\b[tT]tempo\b/
> /\b[tT]tenho\b/
> /\b[tT]tentar\b/
> /\b[tT]tentaram\b/
> /\b[tT]tente\b/
> /\b[tT]tentei\b/
> /\b[tT]teu\b/
> /\b[tT]teve\b/
> /\b[tT]tipo\b/
> /\b[tT]tive\b/
> /\b[tT]todos\b/
> /\b[tT]trabalhar\b/
> /\b[tT]trabalho\b/
> /\b[tT]tu\b/
> /\b[uU]um\b/
> /\b[uU]uma\b/
> /\b[uU]umas\b/
> /\b[uU]uns\b/
> /\b[uU]usa\b/
> /\b[uU]usar\b/
> /\b[vV]valor\b/
> /\b[vV]veja\b/
> /\b[vV]ver\b/
> /\b[vV]verdade\b/
> /\b[vV]verdadeiro\b/
> /\b[vV]você\b/
> /\b[oO]o\b/
> /\b[aA]a\b/
> /\b[oO]os\b/
> /\b[aA]as\b/
> /\b[uU]um\b/
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> /\b[uU]uns\b/
> /\b[uU]umas\b/
> /\b[eE]eu\b/
> /\b[tT]tu\b/
> /\b[eE]ele\b/
> /\b[eE]ela\b/
> /\b[nN]nós\b/
> /\b[vV]vós\b/
> /\b[eE]eles\b/
> /\b[eE]elas\b/
> /\b[mM]me\b/
> /\b[mM]mim\b/
> /\b[cC]comigo\b/
> /\b[tT]te\b/
> /\b[tT]ti\b/
> /\b[cC]contigo\b/
> /\b[sS]se\b/
> /\b[sS]si\b/
> /\b[lL]lhe\b/
> /\b[oO]o\b/
> /\b[aA]a\b/
> /\b[nN]nos\b/
> /\b[cC]conosco\b/
> /\b[vV]vos\b/
> /\b[lL]lhes\b/
> /\b[oO]os\b/
> /\b[aA]as\b/
> /\b[mM]meu\b/
> /\b[mM]minha\b/
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> /\b[mM]minhas\b/
> /\b[tT]teu\b/
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> /\b[tT]tuas\b/
> /\b[sS]seu\b/
> /\b[sS]sua\b/
> /\b[sS]seus\b/
> /\b[sS]suas\b/
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> /\b[nN]nossa\b/
> /\b[nN]nossos\b/
> /\b[nN]nossas\b/
> /\b[vV]vosso\b/
> /\b[vV]vossa\b/
> /\b[vV]vossos\b/
> /\b[vV]vossas\b/
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> /\b[aA]aquela\b/
> /\b[aA]aquelas\b/
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> /\b[pP]próprias\b/
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> /\b[oO]outrem\b/
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> /\b[cC]cada\b/
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> /\b[oO]outra\b/
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> /\b[pP]pouco\b/
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> /\b[pP]poucas\b/
> /\b[qQ]qualquer\b/
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> /\b[qQ]qual\b/
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> /\b[cC]cuja\b/
> /\b[cC]cujas\b/
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> /\b[qQ]quantos\b/
> /\b[qQ]quanta\b/
> /\b[qQ]quantas\b/
> /\b[qQ]quem\b/
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> /\b[oO]onde\b/
> /\b[qQ]que\b/
> /\b[qQ]quê\b/
> /\b[qQ]quem\b/
> /\b[qQ]qual\b/
> /\b[qQ]quantos\b/
> /\b[qQ]quantas\b/
> /\b[sS]sim\b/
> /\b[dD]deveras\b/
> /\b[tT]talvez\b/
> /\b[qQ]quiçá\b/
> /\b[aA]acaso\b/
> /\b[pP]porventura\b/
> /\b[dD]decerto\b/
> /\b[mM]muito\b/
> /\b[pP]pouco\b/
> /\b[aA]assaz\b/
> /\b[bB]bastante\b/
> /\b[mM]mais\b/
> /\b[mM]menos\b/
> /\b[tT]tão\b/
> /\b[dD]demasiado\b/
> /\b[mM]meio\b/
> /\b[tT]todo\b/
> /\b[dD]demais\b/
> /\b[qQ]que\b/
> /\b[qQ]quão\b/
> /\b[qQ]quanto\b/
> /\b[qQ]quase\b/
> /\b[cC]como\b/
> /\b[aA]abaixo\b/
> /\b[aA]acima\b/
> /\b[aA]acolá\b/
> /\b[cC]cá\b/
> /\b[lL]lá\b/
> /\b[aA]aqui\b/
> /\b[aA]ali\b/
> /\b[aA]aí\b/
> /\b[aA]além\b/
> /\b[aA]aquém\b/
> /\b[aA]algures\b/
> /\b[aA]alhures\b/
> /\b[nN]nenhures\b/
> /\b[aA]atrás\b/
> /\b[fF]fora\b/
> /\b[aA]afora\b/
> /\b[dD]dentro\b/
> /\b[pP]perto\b/
> /\b[lL]longe\b/
> /\b[aA]adiante\b/
> /\b[dD]diante\b/
> /\b[oO]onde\b/
> /\b[aA]avante\b/
> /\b[aA]através\b/
> /\b[dD]defronte\b/
> /\b[aA]aonde\b/
> /\b[dD]donde\b/
> /\b[bB]bem\b/
> /\b[mM]mal\b/
> /\b[aA]assim\b/
> /\b[dD]depressa\b/
> /\b[dD]devagar\b/
> /\b[dD]debalde\b/
> /\b[aA]alerta\b/
> /\b[mM]melhor\b/
> /\b[pP]pior\b/
> /\b[nN]não\b/
> /\b[tT]tampouco\b/
> /\b[aA]agora\b/
> /\b[hH]hoje\b/
> /\b[aA]amanhã\b/
> /\b[dD]depois\b/
> /\b[oO]ontem\b/
> /\b[aA]anteontem\b/
> /\b[jJ]já\b/
> /\b[sS]sempre\b/
> /\b[aA]amiúde\b/
> /\b[nN]nunca\b/
> /\b[jJ]jamais\b/
> /\b[aA]ainda\b/
> /\b[lL]logo\b/
> /\b[aA]antes\b/
> /\b[cC]cedo\b/
> /\b[tT]tarde\b/
> /\b[oO]ora\b/
> /\b[oO]outrora\b/
> /\b[eE]então\b/
> /\b[aA]absolutamente\b/
> /\b[bB]breve\b/
> /\b[cC]calmamente\b/
> /\b[cC]certamente\b/
> /\b[cC]corretamente\b/
> /\b[eE]efetivamente\b/
> /\b[fF]fielmente\b/
> /\b[lL]levemente\b/
> /\b[pP]possivelmente\b/
> /\b[pP]primeiramente\b/
> /\b[pP]provavelmente\b/
> /\b[qQ]quiçá\b/
> /\b[rR]realmente\b/
> /\b[tT]tanto\b/
> /\b[tT]tarde\b/
> /\b[uU]ultimamente\b/
> /\b[eE]eis\b/
> /\b[eE]exclusive\b/
> /\b[mM]menos\b/
> /\b[eE]exceto\b/
> /\b[fF]fora\b/
> /\b[sS]salvo\b/
> /\b[sS]senão\b/
> /\b[sS]sequer\b/
> /\b[iI]inclusive\b/
> /\b[tT]também\b/
> /\b[mM]mesmo\b/
> /\b[aA]ainda\b/
> /\b[aA]até\b/
> /\b[aA]ademais\b/
> /\b[aA]além disso\b/
> /\b[dD]de mais a mais\b/
> /\b[sS]só\b/
> /\b[aA]apenas\b/
> /\b[éÉ]é que\b/
> /\b[sS]sobretudo\b/
> /\b[eE]embora\b/
> /\b[aA]aliás\b/
> /\b[oO]ou\b/
> /\b[mM]melhor\b/
> /\b[iI]isto é\b/
> /\b[oO]ou antes\b/
> /\b[aA]a saber\b/
> /\b[pP]por exemplo\b/
> /\b[oO]ou seja\b/
> /\b[aA]afinal\b/
> /\b[aA]agora\b/
> /\b[eE]então\b/
> /\b[mM]mas\b/
> /\b[aA]ante\b/
> /\b[aA]após\b/
> /\b[aA]até\b/
> /\b[cC]com\b/
> /\b[cC]contra\b/
> /\b[dD]de \b/
> /\b[dD]desde\b/
> /\b[eE]em\b/
> /\b[eE]entre\b/
> /\b[pP]para\b/
> /\b[pP]per\b/
> /\b[pP]perante\b/
> /\b[pP]por\b/
> /\b[sS]sem\b/
> /\b[sS]sob\b/
> /\b[sS]sobre\b/
> /\b[tT]trás\b/
> /\b[cC]conforme\b/
> /\b[sS]segundo\b/
> /\b[dD]durante\b/
> /\b[mM]mediante\b/
> /\b[vV]visto\b/
> /\b[cC]como\b/
> /\b[aA]ao\b/
> /\b[aA]aos\b/
> /\b[aA]aonde\b/
> /\b[àÀ]à\b/
> /\b[àÀ]às\b/
> /\b[àÀ]àquele\b/
> /\b[àÀ]àquela\b/
> /\b[àÀ]àquilo\b/
> /\b[dD]de\b/
> /\b[dD]dele\b/
> /\b[dD]deles\b/
> /\b[dD]dela\b/
> /\b[dD]delas\b/
> /\b[dD]deste\b/
> /\b[dD]deste\b/
> /\b[dD]desta\b/
> /\b[dD]destas\b/
> /\b[dD]disto\b/
> /\b[dD]daqui\b/
> /\b[dD]dentre\b/
> /\b[nN]nesse\b/
> /\b[nN]nesses\b/
> /\b[nN]nessa\b/
> /\b[nN]nessas\b/
> /\b[nN]no\b/
> /\b[nN]nos\b/
> /\b[nN]na\b/
> /\b[nN]nas\b/
> /\b[nN]num\b/
> /\b[nN]nuns\b/
> /\b[nN]naquele\b/
> /\b[nN]naquela\b/
> /\b[nN]naqueles\b/
> /\b[nN]naquelas\b/
> /\b[pP]pelo\b/
> /\b[pP]pela\b/
> /\b[pP]pelos\b/
> /\b[pP]pelas\b/
> /\b[eE]e\b/
> /\b[nN]nem\b/
> /\b[mM]mas\b/
> /\b[tT]também\b/
> /\b[mM]mas ainda\b/
> /\b[sS]senão\b/
> /\b[tT]também\b/
> /\b[cC]como também\b/
> /\b[bB]bem como\b/
> /\b[mM]mas\b/
> /\b[pP]porém\b/
> /\b[tT]todavia\b/
> /\b[cC]contudo\b/
> /\b[eE]entretanto\b/
> /\b[sS]senão\b/
> /\b[aA]ao passo que\b/
> /\b[aA]antes\b/
> /\b[nN]no entanto\b/
> /\b[nN]não obstante\b/
> /\b[aA]apesar disso\b/
> /\b[eE]em todo caso\b/
> /\b[oO]ou\b/
> /\b[lL]logo\b/
> /\b[pP]portanto\b/
> /\b[pP]por conseguinte\b/
> /\b[pP]pois\b/
> /\b[pP]por isso\b/
> /\b[qQ]que\b/
> /\b[pP]porque\b/
> /\b[pP]porquanto\b/
> /\b[pP]porque\b/
> /\b[pP]pois\b/
> /\b[cC]como\b/
> /\b[pP]porquanto\b/
> /\b[vV]visto que\b/
> /\b[vV]visto como\b/
> /\b[jJ]já que\b/
> /\b[uU]uma vez que\b/
> /\b[dD]desde que\b/
> /\b[cC]como\b/
> /\b[qQ]qual\b/
> /\b[tT]tal qual\b/
> /\b[tT]tal e qual\b/
> /\b[aA]assim como\b/
> /\b[cC]como\b/
> /\b[tT]tal como\b/
> /\b[tT]tão\b/
> /\b[tT]tanto como\b/
> /\b[mM]mais que\b/
> /\b[mM]mais do que\b/
> /\b[mM]menos que\b/
> /\b[mM]menos do que\b/
> /\b[qQ]quanto\b/
> /\b[tT]tanto quanto\b/
> /\b[qQ]que nem\b/
> /\b[fF]feito\b/
> /\b[oO]o mesmo que\b/
> /\b[eE]embora\b/
> /\b[cC]conquanto\b/
> /\b[qQ]que\b/
> /\b[aA]ainda que\b/
> /\b[mM]mesmo que\b/
> /\b[pP]posto que\b/
> /\b[pP]por mais que\b/
> /\b[pP]por menos que\b/
> /\b[sS]se bem que\b/
> /\b[nN]nem que\b/
> /\b[dD]dado que\b/
> /\b[sS]se caso\b/
> /\b[cC]contanto que\b/
> /\b[dD]desde que\b/
> /\b[sS]salvo se\b/
> /\b[sS]sem que\b/
> /\b[aA]a não ser que\b/
> /\b[aA]a menos que\b/
> /\b[cC]como\b/
> /\b[cC]conforme\b/
> /\b[sS]segundo\b/
> /\b[cC]consoante\b/
> /\b[dD]de sorte\b/
> /\b[qQ]que\b/
> /\b[dD]de modo que\b/
> /\b[dD]de forma que\b/
> /\b[dD]de maneira que\b/
> /\b[sS]sem que\b/
> /\b[pP]para que\b/
> /\b[aA]a fim de que\b/
> /\b[àÀ]à proporção que\b/
> /\b[àÀ]à medida que\b/
> /\b[aA]ao passo que\b/
> /\b[qQ]quando\b/
> /\b[eE]enquanto\b/
> /\b[lL]logo que\b/
> /\b[mM]mal\b/
> /\b[sS]sempre que\b/
> /\b[aA]assim que\b/
> /\b[dD]desde que\b/
> /\b[aA]antes que\b/
> /\b[dD]depois que\b/
> /\b[aA]até agora\b/
> /\b[aA]agora que\b/
> /\b[sS]se\b/
> /\b[tT]título\b/
> /\b[cC]comentários\b/
> /\b[uU]usuário\b/
>
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> <lexelt item="LEXELT">
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> <context>
> título: Festa na Floresta Trabalhos feitos pelos alunos tirados de uma
> revista Educativa e trabalhado passo a passo. usuário: SAMUCA comentários
> título: Onde Fica o SAMUCA. Ciça, O SAMUCA fica em Pedreira, Bairro Jardim
> Triunfo, os proxímos trabalhos que eles estarão fazendo com reciclados é
> dinossauros, com certeza vai ser muito legal também, temos muitas atividades
> aqui na Instituição estarei divulgando. Fico muito feliz com os cometários,
> muito obrigado... Guto usuário: SAMUCA título: Festa na Floresta!  Este é
> apenas um exemplo do que as crianças fazem, estaremos colocando mais fotos
> em breve, há muito pra mostrar. Obrigado pelo comentário. usuário: SAMUCA
> título: samuca  Parabéns pelo trabalho com as crianças.Minha filha
> (Patrícia)estuda aí e achamos o máximo. usuário: erivaldo título: lindo
> trabalho...os Bichos, a floresta   Ola Samuca achei lindo o trabalho que
> vocês divulgaram aqui. Agora com os bichinhos e cenário prontos dá para as
> crianças brincarem um montão com os brinquedos produzidos por elas mesmas!!!
>  Dá também para criar várias histórias né? E se vocês tiverem acesso a
> computadores e equipamentos digitais as crianças poderiam continuar a
> vivenciar estes momentos de criação bolando história em quadrinhos, "cinema
> de animação" (filmando os bichinhos e a narração das crianças) etc...
> Gostaria de saber mais sobre o local (escola?) onde este trabalho é
> realizado. Em que cidade fica? Parabéns mais uma vez pelo trabalho ;-) ate +
> Ciça  usuário: Ciça
> </context>
> </instance>
> <instance id="1">
> <answer instance="1" senseid="NOTAG"/>
> <context>
> título: cursos ola..para quem tiver interece as inscriçoes para os cursos do
> CEPROCAMP terão inicio em julho. usuário: mera comentários título: cursos
> olá Cristian desculpe não vi sua pergunta antes, mas as inscriçoes para os
> cursos foram até o dia 8 e teria que ser pessoalmente           abraços
> usuário:  título: Valeu pela dica Cristian,  Valeu pela dica Cristian, você
> tem o link do site? As inscrições podem ser feitas via net? Abraços usuário:
> Teco
> </context>
> </instance>
> <instance id="2">
> <answer instance="2" senseid="NOTAG"/>
> <context>
> título: Chinelos Havaianas, Ipanema  usuário: Atelie Tok e Art comentários
> título: Chinelos Havaianas Bordados  Obrigada pelo carinho. Com certeza
> quero continuar criando novos modelos exclusivos para satisfazer minhas
> clientes. Espero que goste dos novos modelos postado. usuário:  título:
> Chinelos Havaianas Bordados  Visitei este anúncio e simplismente adorei
> todos os modelos que foi postado. Parabéns. Você tem mãos de fada! Linda
> criatividade. Continue criando e inovando. Logo entrarei em contato para
> fazer meu pedido. usuário:
> </context>
> </instance>
> <instance id="3">
> <answer instance="3" senseid="NOTAG"/>
> <context>
> título: Curso Informática Básica Curso de informática com processador de
> texto, planilha eletrônica, criação e apresentação de slides e internet. R.
> Dusolina Leone Tournieux, S/N - Pq. Res. Vila União - campinas/SP Ponto de
> referência: Ao lado do Terminal Vila União Data ainda a confirmar. usuário:
> thiagojfp comentários título: curso de informatica ola tiago fico felis por
> vc ,pois voce e muito dedicado no que fas,fis o curso de informatica basica
> com voce e apredi muito que Deus conserve sua paciencia bjos usuário:
>  título: curso de informatica ola tiago fico felis por vc ,pois voce e muito
> dedicado no que fas,fis o curso de informatica basica com voce e apredi
> muito que Deus conserve sua paciencia bjos usuário:  título: Horários do
> curso. Boa tarde! Quais os horários disponíveis para inicio em fevereiro?
> usuário: Julioocm título: curso eu gostaria de fazer ocurso pois ja estou
> escrita e não fui chamada  usuário: Neusa
> </context>
> </instance>
> <instance id="4">
> <answer instance="4" senseid="NOTAG"/>
> <context>
> título: AGÊNCIA DE DOG WALKERS A AGÊNCIA  DOG WALKERS é especializada em
> serviços de passeios para cães, no seu dia dia, diante a rotina agitada,
> você pode deixar passar desapercebido o quanto é importante um bom passeio
> para o seu cão.  Não seria otimo se alguem fizesse isso por você e seu
> melhor amigo ? Por isso a DOG WALKERS É A SOLUÇÃO   LIGUE E AGENDE UM
> PASSEIO PARA SEU MELHOR AMIGO  CONTATO: 3223.5962 ou 9162.7104 usuário:
> sueyla comentários
> </context>
> </instance>
> <instance id="5">
> <answer instance="5" senseid="NOTAG"/>
> <context>
> título: Cachecol e toquinhas Vendo conjuntos de cachecol e toquinha. Envio
> pelo correio.  Opções em várias cores. usuário: vania comentários título:
> Olá Leonardo, Aceitando sua Olá Leonardo, Aceitando sua sugestão, coloquei
> algumas fotos e um vídeo. Veja se as toquinhas lhe interessam. Obrigada,
> Vania. usuário: vania título: Fotos da toquinha Vânia, não tenho interesse
> no cachecol, mas talvez tenha nas toquinhas. Por favor, poste algumas fotos
> das toquinhas para eu conhecer melhor o produto que você está vendendo.
> usuário: leonardo
> </context>
> </instance>
> <instance id="6">
> <answer instance="6" senseid="NOTAG"/>
> <context>
> título: CONVITE PARA SER COLUNISTA DO PORTAL METAVENDAS BRAZIL Metavendas
> Brazil Comunicação Integrada. Site principal: www.metavendasbrazil.com
> www.metavendasbrazil.com.br VOCÊ GOSTA DE ESCREVER? PORTAL METAVENDAS BRAZIL
> CONVIDA:  JORNALISTAS, POETAS, ESCRITORES A SEREM NOSSOS COLUNISTAS.  Você
> gosta de futebol? Ama o futebol do seu estado? Estamos em busca de pessoas
> que amam o futebol e que tenham o costume de escrever. Principalmente se
> você for jornalista ou estudante de jornalismo.  Temos um projeto de cobrir
> os times de todos os estados do Brasil. Porém, vocês sabem que isso ficaria
> muito difícil sem ter ao menos uma pessoa cobrindo cada estado. OS MELHORES
> ARTIGOS SERÃO PUBLICADOS NA REVISTA METAVENDAS BRAZIL.. AGURADAMOS SEU
> CONTATO., FAÇA PARTE DE NOSSA FAMÍLIA! MSN: met...@ho...
> SKYPE: metavendas.brazil EMAIL: sa...@me... usuário:
> METAVENDASBRAZIL comentários
> </context>
> </instance>
> <instance id="7">
> <answer instance="7" senseid="NOTAG"/>
> <context>
> título: Festival de Vídeos O FESTIVAL DE VÍDEO - ESTAÇÃO CULTURAL tem por
> objetivo estimular e ampliar o debate dos jovens e demais grupos sociais por
> meio de novas linguagens visuais, a fim de viabilizar um processo inovador
> que garanta a participação desses segmentos na cultura local. Os vídeos
> devem ser  inscritos e postados gratuitamente no portal Youtube, Videolog ou
> sites que permitam a visualização aberta via internet e cadastrar no site:
> www.festivaldevideo.estacaocultural.org.br, devendo seguir os critérios do
> regulamento. As inscrições vão até 18 de outubro! usuário: Carla comentários
> </context>
> </instance>
> <instance id="8">
> <answer instance="8" senseid="NOTAG"/>
> <context>
> título: COZINHANDO .... COM  FORNO SOLAR COZINHANDO COM O FORNO SOLAR     É
> possível cozinhar tudo no forno solar: arroz, feijão, verduras, carne,
> frango, peixe, batatas, pães, bolos, etc.  (A única coisa que não pode ser
> feita é fritura).     Em geral o cozimento mais eficiente se faz em panelas
> médias ou pequenas, de preferência panelas rasas em vez de fundas, sempre
> pretas ou de cores escuras e com tampas.    A regra universal que garante o
> sucesso no forno solar é: coloque a comida para cozinhar cedo e não se
> preocupe se ela vai cozinhar demais ou queimar. Em geral, usa-se menos água
> no preparo de arroz, feijão, ervilhas, lentilhas, etc, já que o vapor não
> escapa da panela, enquanto que no preparo de carne, peixe ou frango, assim
> como no cozimento de ovos, frutas, batatas, cenouras, beterrabas, chuchu,
> inhame, macaxeira, abóbora cortada em fatias, etc, não se usa nenhuma água.
>  Batatas e cebolas pequenas podem ser cozidas inteiras. Para tudo mais vale
> a regra: pedaços menores cozinham melhor e mais rápido do que pedaços
> maiores.     O fato do vapor não escapar das panelas, combinando com o
> cozimento lento, a temperaturas mais baixas, aumenta o valor nutritivo dos
> alimentos e realça o sabor dos temperos resultando numa comida deliciosa
> apesar de possíveis diferenças na cor, no sabor e na textura dos alimentos
> cozidos na lenha ou no fogão a gás.     Além da economia de gás butano ou de
> carvão ou lenha, a grande vantagem do forno solar é a economia de tempo: uma
> vez colocadas as panelas dentro do forno, ao sol, entre 8 e 9 horas da
> manhã, não é preciso mexer, adicionar água ou controlar o tempo para não
> queimar. Com isso, é possível sair de casa ou se ocupar com outros afazeres
> até a hora do almoço quando tudo estará cozido e quente, pronto para a mesa!
>  CONSTRUINDO SEU FORNO SOLAR     Material para fazer o forno solar (um forno
> ou mais, quando indicado):     1 - Material do lixo:     - Caixas de papelão
> grandes - Jornais velhos ou lã de vidro ou algodão grosso ou palha - Sacolas
> plásticas (tipo supermercado) - Dois cabos de vassoura, de madeira - Tira de
> borracha de câmara de ar - Chapa de metal (folha de flandres, folha de
> zinco, bandeja ou tampa de ferro, etc)     2 - Material comprado:     - Cola
> plástica branca - Rolo de papel de alumínio (largura maior ou menor) -
> Pregos finos de 3 centímetros - Dois metros de plástico transparente
> (incolor) de 0,15 ou 0,20 de espessura ou mais grosso - 3 metros de fio de
> nylon médio - Uma lata de tinta preta fosca em aerosol (de preferência do
> tipo para alta temperatura) - Dá para mais de um forno - Um litro de tinta
> látex de parede, qualquer cor (opcional) - mais de um forno - Uma caixa de
> tachinhas de sapateiro, nº 11 ou nº 2 - mais de um forno - Uma folha de lixa
> para madeira nº 80 - mais de um forno - Uma folha de lixa para metal nº 220
> ou mais fina - mais de um forno - Duas panelas de alumínio com tampa (de
> preferência baixas e de grande diâmetro)     3 - Ferramentas para a oficina:
>     - Lápis ou caneta - Régua - Estilete - Tesoura grande - Tesoura para
> metal em folha - Martelo - Serrote - Alicate - Furadeira com broca fina -
> Pincel chato médio ou rolo pequeno      As caixas podem ser maiores e o
> espaço entre a caixa menor e a maior pode variar para um pouco mais ou um
> pouco menos e não precisa ser igual nos 4 lados. A caixa maior também pode
> ser mais funda, mas a caixa menor não deve ultrapassar 20 cm de fundura para
> não aumentar a sombra projetada sobre as panelas quando o sol está mais
> baixo no céu.     Maiores informações sobre o Projeto do Forno Solar:
> José Albano Tel: (Brasil  55)(Fortaleza 85) 3476-8625 e-mail:
> jal...@ya...        Links para Forno Solar:     Cozinhando com o
> Sol:  http://www.solarcooking.org/portugues/ Um Método Simples de Forno
> Solar:  http://www.solarcooking.org/portugues/minimum-pt.htm Solar Cookers
> International:  http://www.solarcookers.org/ The Solar Cooking Archive:
>  http://www.solarcooking.org/ Sociedade do Sol:
>  http://www.sociedadedosol.org.br/fornosolar/fornoss.htm Solar Oven Society:
>  http://www.solarovens.org/ The Solar Cooking Archive Wiki :
>  http://solarcooking.wikia.com/ Essa cartilha está isenta de direitos
> autorais: pode piratear à vontade! O nosso planeta Terra agradece!
>  usuário: Chácara de Orgânicos comentários
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> <instance id="9">
> <answer instance="9" senseid="NOTAG"/>
> <context>
> título: Peça Teatral - "Armas de Brinquedo" Grupo CIA prepara peça premiada
> no mundo todo para ser representada em Pedreira e região. A Peça “Bang Bang
> You Are Dead” do escritor americano William Mastrosimone foi traduzida para
> o português com o nome “Armas de Brinquedo” - A trama aborda o bullying e
> desenvolve-se em meio a conflitos de identidade e aceitação. As palavras e
> as ações dos agressores alteram a conduta de um garoto que não mais se
> reconhece em suas atitudes. Na peça, o estudante Leonardo sofre com abusos e
> humilhações na escola e, sem saber como lidar com as injúrias, entra em
> colapso e desperta em si um caráter destrutivo. Leonardo cria em seu
> imaginário um mundo de terror, dúvida e medo. Suas ações são influenciadas o
> tempo todo por vozes que escuta em sua cabeça. O garoto não recebe a devida
> atenção dos pais que, sempre muito ocupados, são incapazes de perceber as
> mudanças em seu comportamento. O enredo traz à tona a relação de Léo com
> amigos, família, profissionais da escola entre outros, em uma peça que
> mistura realidade e ilusão, deixando a sensação de que tudo isso poderia
> acontecer em qualquer lugar e com qualquer pessoa. Com a direção de Vinicius
> Pianca e grande elenco: Adilson Pedrino, Gabriel Carneiro, Heloisa
> Granjeiro, Richardson Clara, Larissa Trancolin, Vitor Raphael e Vinicius
> Pianca e Tábata Cassiani. A peça tem estréia prevista para Agosto de 2009 no
> Teatro do Bote a Boca e depois segue em cartaz por Campinas, Jaguariúna,
> Amparo, São Paulo, Santos, Indaiatuba entre outras cidades já agendadas.
>  usuário: Teco comentários título: Com certeza será sucesso,  Com certeza
> será sucesso, um projeto diferente d etudo que já fizemos e com um grupo
> novo que criamos. Espero você lá Bazzi. Abraços usuário: Teco título: teste
>  teste usuário: Teco título: (Sem título)   usuário: Teco título: Conte com
> minha presença  Conte com minha presença ;) SUCESSO à vocês ! usuário:
> baziotti
> </context>
> </instance>
> <instance id="10">
> <answer instance="10" senseid="NOTAG"/>
> <context>
> título: passos para comentar um anuncio 1. comunicar que é uma rede
> gratuita. 2. entrar no endereço. 3. senão tiver o cadastro clique em
> cadastrar. 4. o sistema vai pedir para escolher e memorizar senhas. siga as
> instruçoes. 5. clique em avancar.não esqueça de preencher os campos
> obrigatorios. 6. escolha a senha desejada e confirme clicando novamente nas
> mesmas escolhidas. 7. dando certo;clique em voltar para 1a pagina . 8.
> clique em  entrar; coloque seu nome e senha. 9. clique em vendas ,ideias ou
> produtos que são os tipos de anuncios. clique em comentar. 10. comente no
> espaço indicado e clique em enviar. em seguida voce vera seu comentario
> usuário: mera comentários
> </context>
> </instance>
> <instance id="11">
> <answer instance="11" senseid="NOTAG"/>
> <context>
> título: Da informalidade ao empreendedorismo   Da informalidade ao
> empreendedorismo  Com o Super Simples, trabalhadores informais,
> profissionais liberais e microempresários poderão garantir crédito e
> benefícios trabalhistas e previdenciários pagando baixos impostos Brasília,
> 30/06/2009 - Os trabalhadores informais brasileiros poderão se tornar
> microempreendedores pagando apenas R$ 57,15 mensais em tributos, a partir de
> 1º de julho, com a entrada em vigor do Super Simples. Assim prevê a Lei
> Complementar nº 128/2008, que facilita e barateia o recolhimento de
> impostos. Empresários com renda até R$ 3 mil mensais optantes pelo Simples
> Nacional poderão se tornar Microempreendedor Individual (MEI). Se aderirem
> ao Super Simples, trabalhadores informais e profissionais liberais como
> ambulantes, cabeleireiros, eletricistas e verdureiros terão direito a
> auxílio doença, pensão por morte, auxílio reclusão, licença maternidade e
> aposentadoria. Para o feirante José Guedes da Silva o projeto é importante
> para os informais. "Eu trabalho na rua e não tenho nenhuma garantia
> trabalhista: não tenho a segurança de um auxílio caso precise parar de
> trabalhar por um período, e fico sem renda se acontecer algum acidente ou eu
> ficar doente. Vou me informar melhor e aderir ao sistema, com certeza". As
> empresas abertas com base no Super Simples serão registradas no Cadastro
> Nacional de Pessoa Jurídica (CNPJ), o que facilitará as condições de compras
> e a tomada de empréstimos. "Estamos articulando ações de esclarecimento e
> adesão desses microempresários à nova regra do Super Simples. Todos poderão
> ter acesso a linhas de crédito", afirma o coordenador-geral do Programa de
> Microcrédito do Ministério do Trabalho, Max Coelho. Não poderão optar pelo
> MEI empresários quem tiverem mais de uma empresa, que participem de empresa
> como titular, sócio ou administrador, ou tenham empregados contratados -
> exceto aqueles quem possuem apenas um empregado que receba um salário mínimo
> ou o piso salarial, desde que optem pelo recolhimento de contribuição
> previdenciária de 3% sobre o salário do funcionário. "A Lei não visa apenas
> promover a formalização do microempresário no campo tributário. A grande
> importância da lei é permitir o acesso dos trabalhadores à proteção social
> do Estado," explica Max Coelho. Contribuições e isenções - O valor do Super
> Simples inclui R$ 51,15 em contribuição para a seguridade social, R$ 1 em
> Imposto sobre Circulação de Mercadorias e Serviços (ICMS) e R$ 5 em Imposto
> Sobre Serviços (ISS). A primeira declaração anual e as taxas de alvará serão
> emitidas gratuitamente. Os microempreendedores estão isentos dos pagamentos
> de Imposto de Renda Pessoa Jurídica (IRPJ), Imposto sobre Produtos
> Industrializados (IPI), Contribuição Social sobre Lucro Líquido (CSLL),
> Contribuição para o Financiamento da Seguridade Social (Cofins), Programa de
> Integração Nacional (PIS) e contribuição para o INSS patronal. Informalidade
> - Segundo dados de 2007 da Pesquisa Nacional por Amostra de Domicílios
> (Pnad) do Instituto Brasileiro de Geografia e Estatística (IBGE), existem
> 43,4 milhões de trabalhadores informais no Brasil, que tem 89,2 milhões de
> pessoas em idade economicamente ativa. Assessoria de Imprensa do MTE (61)
> 3317-6537 - ac...@mt... usuário: Manoel comentários título: ótima
> informação!! Tenho certeza que muitos tem esta dúvida, já que em nosso país
> muitos são trabalhadores informais. Parabéns!! usuário:  título: importante
> para as pessoas do  vila na rede  Gente! que notícia interessante que pode
> beneficiar aqueles pequenos empreendedores como os que fazem parte do Vila
> na rede!  Pessoal do Cidarte, as meninas dos salgadinhos e bolos,
> costureira, cabeleireira, etc. o que acham dessa possibilidade? abraços,
> Cecilia PS obrigada Manoel por trazer a notícia! usuário: cecilia
> </context>
> </instance>
> <instance id="12">
> <answer instance="12" senseid="NOTAG"/>
> <context>
> título: Divulgação entre amigos Falar aos amigos ,no trabalho, e no bairro
> comentando os serviços disponiveis no vila na rede para que mais pessoas
> possam ter acesso   a tais serviços. usuário: cidinha comentários título:
> Também nos eventos... Olá, Cidinha! Falei do Vila em um evento que
> participei na Unicamp. Tinha umas 20 pessoas e todas se interessaram muito
> pelos serviços que estão disponíveis aqui. Aproveitei também para divulgar
> os Telecentros porque algumas pessoas que estavam no evento não possuem
> computador e nunca usaram a Internet e podem contar com o apoio desses
> locais para conhcer a nossa rede  :o) usuário: Carla título: compartilhando
> idéias, promovendo acesso Cidinha,  é mesmo...ao divulgarmos o que
> conhecemos e utilizamos estaremos possibilitando o acesso de outras pessoas
> a este rede inclusiva!!! E a fala parece ser mesmo uma forma bem prática de
> se fazer isso né?  usuário: Ciça
> </context>
> </instance>
> <instance id="13">
> <answer instance="13" senseid="NOTAG"/>
> <context>
> título: A IMPORTANCIA DA TROCA DE CONHECIMENTO O conhecimento  é muito
> importante e necessário para  aqueles que tem vontade de aprender. O
> teleceentro de  vila monte alegre,é  muito importante  aqui   dei meus
> primeiros passos ,com a finalidade de me atualizar no  convivio com a
> tecnologia atual da sociedade. Atraves do telecentro ,conheci a vila na
> rede. onde conheci  a professora Carla,Ricardo Baziotti, que se prontificou
> a me ajudar na construção do meu ( blog ) (a vida com capacidade plena) A
> informatica é o unico caminho em que se pode transmitir a experiencia
> adquirida durante os longos anos de vida observando o qué de melhor para se
> ter uma vida com capacidade plena. AGRDECIMENTOS Agradesso A
> Unicamp,criadora do programa. Aos professores ,CalaRodrigues,Ricardo
> Baziotti,Richardson Clara . Muito obrigado a todos,Alexandre usuário:
> Alexandre comentários título: Voltei   :o) Oi, Bazi! Fiquei muito feliz em
> saber que agora está definitivamente atuando no Telecentro como estagiário.
> Sem dúvida uma excelente força pro Teco   :o) Bom, a partir de agora "nos
> vemos" todas as terças e quartas. Abraço, Carla usuário:  título: Saudade
> Oi, Sr. Reis! Na verdade retomei as atividades no Telecentro na primeira
> semana de agosto. Só que em outro horário... na terça-feira na parte da
> tarde junto com os agentes comunitários de saúde  e na quarta-feira  na
> parte da manhã    ;o) O Teco está verificando a possibilidade de agrupar
> todos os que participam das aulas de inclusão digital em um só horário.
> Vamos ver se dá certo. Abraço, Carla usuário:  título: A IMPORTANCIA DA
> TROCA DE CONHECIMENTO  A importancia é ajudar os outros usuário:
> renancamillo13 título: Agradecimento  :o) Oi, Sr. Alexandre! Muito obrigada
> por estas palavras de reconhecimento. Eu também gostaria de agradecer sua
> dedicação e empenho em perseguir seu sonho de aprender mais e trocar
> conhecimentos. Com certeza o Telecentro e a Vila na rede têm se mostrado
> excelentes espaços para estas trocas e tenho aprendido bastante com todos.
> Sem dizer no seu Blog que vai nos presentear com muito mais sabedoria
> Seguimos construindo juntos   :o) Obrigada novamente! Abraço, Carla usuário:
> Carla título: Esclarecimento  Professora Carla, Eu é que devo agradecer.
> pois o interessado em aprender,depende de alguem para ensina-lo. Sua
> dedicação solidaria para com seus alunos,é muito importante para todos
> aqueles com a vontade de aprender. Sua solidariedade dedicação e empenho
> será muito bem recompensada , Atenciosamente  Alexandre Kravetz  usuário:
> Alexandre título: Eu fico muito feliz que  Eu fico muito feliz que estejam
> gostando do seu novo "PROFESSOR ESTAGIÁRIO" , rs ;) Estou à disposição de
> todos vocês ! E aproveitando o que foi dito ; Carla , estamos com saudades ,
> VOLTE LOGO , rs ;) Abraço á todos . usuário: baziotti título: A IMPORTANCIA
> DA TRÓCA DE CONHECIMENTO  Olá pessôal do Telecentro! Todos nós estamos
> contentes, com os trabalho de toda equipe desta escóla maravilhosa. Em
>  especial a atenção de nosso Professor Baziotti. Estamos com  saldade de
> nossa querida    Carla. usuário: Reis
> </context>
> </instance>
> <instance id="14">
> <answer instance="14" senseid="NOTAG"/>
> <context>
> título: alongue-se! (Alongamentos Livre) O alongamento é uma atividade
> física que pode ser executada em praticamente todos os lugares, não exigindo
> um espaço grande como a caminhada e equipamentos como a musculação. Desta
> forma muitos estudos demonstram grandes benefícios do alongamento, segundo
> Endlich et al (2009),  o alongamento produz o aumento da flexibilidade,
> evitando riscos de lesões e possivelmente o melhor desempenho atlético.
>  Dicas para Alongamento: * O alongamento pode ser feito em casa, no
> trabalho, na escola, entre outros. * Manter de 15 à 20 segundos em cada
> posição. (Esquerdo e Direito) * Fazer de acordo com o limite do seu corpo.
> Obs- A prática de qualquer exercício físico deve ter sempre acompanhamento
> profissional. Prof. Cristian H. Marino Educador Físico CREF-069820-G/SP
> Projeto Agita Pedreira usuário: Cristian comentários
> </context>
> </instance>
> <instance id="15">
> <answer instance="15" senseid="NOTAG"/>
> <context>
> título: 4a. Oficina Semio-Participativa Oficina de lançamento da versão alfa
> do VilanaRede. usuário: Ciça comentários título: 4a. Oficina <em>trazer
> produto para anunciar <strong> vai ter surpresinha usuário:
> </context>
> </instance>
> <instance id="16">
> <answer instance="16" senseid="NOTAG"/>
> <context>
> título: O projeto Estou encantada com o Vila na Rede! O projeto é muito
> interessante, porque ele é uma construção conjunta, que provoca a criação, a
> transmissão de informações, a troca de idéias e  a formação de uma rede que
> se expande, a partir do que é do interesse e necessidades da comunidade.
> Parabéns!!! Maria Teresa  usuário:  comentários
> </context>
> </instance>
> <instance id="17">
> <answer instance="17" senseid="NOTAG"/>
> <context>
> título:  Video de 1 minuto – Dicas 1 Você quer usar um vídeo para divulgar
> seu anúncio aqui no VilanaRede? Listei aqui dicas iniciais para a filmagem:
> 1) tema: o vídeo que você quer criar será sobre o que? Pense a respeito
> antes de iniciar sua filmagem. 2) tempo: +- 1 minuto -  tente fazer um vídeo
> de curta duração. Assim você apresenta logo sua idéia para quem está
> assistindo o seu filme. 3) roteiro: faça uma lista do que quer filmar e
> dizer no vídeo antes de iniciar a filmagem. Procure também anotar que
> imagens, situações, movimentos, sons que gostaria de apresentar em seu
> filme.  4) filmagem:  Na hora da filmagem fique atento com a velocidade do
> movimento que faz com a câmera, as aproximações e afastamentos das imagens e
> eventos que está filmando.  5) resultado: Depois da filmagem assista o filme
> para ver como ficou. 6) edição: Seguindo seu roteiro talvez não precise
> fazer a edição do que filmou.  Mesmo assim, depois que assistir sua
> produção, pode ser que você queira modificar alguma coisa no filme. Para
> isso terá que editar a filmagem já realizada.  7) nova filmagem: você pode
> também iniciar nova filmagem, caso os eventos do seu roteiro possam ser
> capturados novamente.  Experimente!!!!  ====== O vídeo apresentado aqui é um
> exemplo de um vídeo criado por algumas professoras que participaram de uma
> Oficina de Produção de Vídeo em 29/09/2008:  Realização: Prof.Drª Simone
> Bortoliero, Faculdade de Comunicação, Universidade Federal da Bahia  Local:
> EMEF Parque dos Pinheiros – Hortolândia, São Paulo. Participantes:
> professoras e pesquisadores do projeto TIME/Nied_Unicamp.  Resultados:
> elaboração de 5 vídeos com as seguintes temáticas: Combustível Verde,
>  Energia eólica, Energia Limpa, Fotossíntese Se quiser assistir outros
> vídeos produzidos na Oficina do Projeto TIME acesse:
> http://perseus.nied.unicamp.br/time/paginas/projeto.php?tipo=3 usuário: Ciça
> comentários título: Correção  tecnica  O texto acima foi postado pela
> professora Joaninha http://prefessorajoaninha.blogspot.com/ usuário:
>  título: Filme de 1 minuto Muito bom este texto da CIÇA  ele nos fornece
> dicas e pontos importantes para uma boa filmagem e como  resultado um belo
> filme.  Como comentado  não esqueça de montar uma lauda que são os passos
> tudo que uma pessoa ou um grupo pretende que o filme tenha. É o planejamento
>  do passo a passo que ira lhe auxiliar durante as filmagens e edições
> finais. Na lauda deve ser registrado o maximo possivel de informação sobre o
> filme a ser montado como:  _Tema do filme (titulo) _Cenas ou fatos que devem
> aparecer no filme _ Músicas _Narrações (sobre o quê; quem fara?) Com um bom
> planejamento o trabalho será perfeito. usuário:  título: Edição de vídeo Oi,
> Ciça! Ótimas dicas sobre a gravação de anúncio em vídeo. Fiquei pensando na
> parte da edição do vídeo... encontrei um site que permite a edição de vídeos
> diretamente na Internet:  http://www.jumpcut.com/     a ferramenta é
> interessante, mas está disponível somente em inglês e tem que se registrar
> no site para utilizá-la. Alguém conhece alguma outra? usuário: Carla
> </context>
> </instance>
> <instance id="18">
> <answer instance="18" senseid="NOTAG"/>
> <context>
> título: FESTAS DIA 29/01 SEXTA FEIRA NAO PERCAM MUITA BLACK MUSIC , ENTRADA
> 10,00 PREÇO UNICO, MULHER 5,00 ATÉ AS 00:00 HRS DIA 30/01 SABADO MUITO SAMBA
> E SAMBAROCK  PREÇO UNICO 10:00 MULHER FREE ATÉ A 00:00HRS usuário: sueyla
> comentários
> </context>
> </instance>
> <instance id="19">
> <answer instance="19" senseid="NOTAG"/>
> <context>
> título: como comer bem OLA VOCE......... quer comer uma ótima PIZZA vá ate a
> churrascaria CAMP SUL que  fica na rodovia D.PEDRO no bairro aparecidinha
> voce ira gostar usuário: mera comentários título: churrasco  ola...com
> certeza o churrasco é otimo, como tambem o rodizio e o self-serve usuário:
> mera título: É ótimo...falo por mim! É ótimo...falo por mim! usuário: Suélen
> título: pizza e churrasco  que interessante ...e o churrasco é bom também?
> usuário: cecilia
> </context>
> </instance>
> <instance id="20">
> <answer instance="20" senseid="NOTAG"/>
> <context>
> título: Campanha Fotográfica " AFRICA EM NÓS " Uma campanha do GOVERNO DE
> SÃO PAULO , na qual todos podem estar participando . O tema deste ano é "
> AFRICA EM NÓS " . Voces podem obter mais informações , saber como participar
> , votar nas fotos já postadas , dentre outras coisas, acessando o site
> oficial . http://www.africaemnos.com.br/ Ricardo Baziotti usuário: baziotti
> comentários título: Promoção da cultura negra Edital do MinC apoia Projetos
> de Promoção da Cultura Negra: Confira o edital para Apoio a Projetos de
> Promoção da Cultura Negra da Fundação Cultural Palmares que  disponibilizará
> cerca de  R$ 400 mil reais aos projetos vencedores que apresentarem como
> objetivo a promoção da lei nº 10.639/03 (que torna obrigatório o ensino
> sobre História e Cultura afro-brasileira), por meio de idéias criativas que
> tragam em seu conteúdo atividades culturais comemorativas ao dia 20 de
> novembro - Dia Nacional da Consciência Negra 2009.
> http://www.cultura.gov.br/site/2009/08/04/edital-para-apoio-a-projetos-de-promocao-da-cultura-negra/
> usuário:
> </context>
> </instance>
> <instance id="21">
> <answer instance="21" senseid="NOTAG"/>
> <context>
> título: Acessórios femininos  usuário: Ateliê Estilos e Cores comentários
> </context>
> </instance>
> <instance id="22">
> <answer instance="22" senseid="NOTAG"/>
> <context>
> título: Leite de Cereal Orgânico LEITE DE ARROZ , um poderoso desintoxicante
> Os leites vegetais podem ser uma ótima opção alimentar para quem anda
> querendo diminuir o consumo de leite animal ou mesmo retirá-lo do cardápio
> diário, muitas vezes seguido por simples hábito. E o melhor da história: ao
> adotar novos leites em sua vida, você não vai sofrer por falta de
> nutrientes. Pelo contrário, poderá ganhar em fibras, minerais e saúde. Leite
> de arroz integral Um poderoso desintoxicante. Os nutricionistas dizem que o
> leite de arroz “descansa” os órgãos do corpo. Tem proteínas, vitamina B1 e
> niacina, responsáveis pela transformação das proteínas e carboidratos em
> energia. Preparo: Deixe de molho por oito a dez horas, dois copos cheios de
> arroz. Leve ao fogo com o dobro de água. Exemplo: dois copos de arroz para
> quatro de água e assim proporcionalmente. O arroz deve ficar ao fogo sob a
> medida da mão, ou seja, assim que a mão não suportar mais o calor, é hora de
> desligar e abafar. Bata e coe várias vezes seguidas. Dois copos de arroz
> rendem meio litro de leite. Outras opções de leite de cereal :
> http://www.chacaradeorganicos.com.br/category/receitas/page/2/ COMPRAR O
> PRODUTO PRONTO :
> http://chacaradeorganicos.lojapronta.net/produtos_descricao.asp?lang=pt_BR&codigo_produto=136
> usuário: Chácara de Orgânicos comentários
> </context>
> </instance>
> <instance id="23">
> <answer instance="23" senseid="NOTAG"/>
> <context>
> título: Ópera Infantil "La Belle Lisse Poire du Prince du Motordu" Dia 10 de
> outubro, às 19h, e dia 11 de outubro às 17h, no Centro de Convivência de
> Campinas Apresentação do Projeto Por ocasião do Ano da França no Brasil, a
> Aliança Francesa e o Consulado Honorário da França de Campinas desejam
> destacar a parceria estabelecida há 15 anos com a rede de escolas públicas
> municipais de Campinas, que recebeu o nome de “Projet Ecole”. Este projeto
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> usuário: elaine comentários
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> <context>
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> misangas no miolos das flores para fechar é so colocar ziper ou  velcro se
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> projetos (+- 64 registros - Brasil e outros países) relacionados a
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> publicação das reportagens FASE3 - elaboração de um PROJETO DE INTERVENÇÃO
> SOCIAL Ao longo destas fases são encaminhados alguns "desafios multimídia"
> para promover a integração de mídias/aplicativos/serviços web. Os "desafios
> multimídia" são apresentados no site (propondo atividades e orientando como
> fazer) - na "mochila do reporter":  Alguns desafios lançados: 1) microfone
> aberto (gravação de depoimentos na rádio Minha Terra) 2) Informe tema e
> pauta de reportagem no Twitter, 3) Pelo celular - planejando a intervenção
> (foco: utilizar recursos multimídia do celular (video) para atividade extra
> e mobilizar participantes em torno das ações da fase 3 do projeto).
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> <context>
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> <context>
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> Assis de Pano: D. Lurdes e D. Nilce (informação encaminhada por D. Iolanda
> da Cooperativa Cidarte-Vila União, Campinas,SP).  O preço deste artesanato é
> : R$ 22,00  <b>informação adicionada em abril/2009 </b>: Este produto era
> confeccionado pelo grupo de mulheres ECOCHICK em parceria com a Fundação
> Orsa em Campinas. (novembro/2008)  Em 2008 divulguei este produto aqui no
> VIlanaRede. Em abril fiquei sabendo que em 2009 o "São Francisco de Pano"
> está sendo confeccionado por outro grupo de artesanato e atualizei os novos
> contatos neste anúncio     usuário: Ciça comentários título: marca conhecida
> Aqui sou Cidinha. Já comprei outros produtos desse grupo que gostei muito e
> inclusive dei de presente. Estão de parabéns!!!!!!! usuário:  título: São
> Francisco Gostaria de saber se existe outras opções e quais são. usuário:
>  título: anônimo Quero dizer que o anônimo sou eu. usuário:
> manganacasabrasil título: Cecilia O Santo é lindo, qual o preço? quantos
> podemos encomendar? usuário:  título: Santo de pano doze reais. usuário:
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> sei responder suas dúvidas ;-(.  Eu divulguei o trabalho deste grupo porque
> achei bem interessante.  As informações que me apresentaram em dezembro/2008
> vieram de um profissional que atuava na Fundação Orsa, mas que atualmente
> não está mais trabalhando lá. Assim sendo, estou procurando contatar o grupo
> ecochic para ver se eles podem dar as informações solicitadas aqui no
> VilanaRede, ok. vamos aguardar []s Ciça usuário: Ciça título: Sao francisco
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> que vcs fazem? grata att pe...@ch... usuário:  título: novo
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> artesanato que está produzindo o "São Francisco" de pano agora em 2009.
> Breve incluirei esta informação aqui, ok. []s Ciça usuário: Ciça título: São
> Francisco de Assis  Olá Cissa! Não faço parte de grupo de artesanato, mas
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> telefones, ok. []s Ciça  usuário: Ciça título: suas "artes"    Ola Mara, vi
> seu blog e "suas artes" ...são bem bonitas ;-) foi muito bom ver seu
> trabalho também divulgado aqui na Vila na rede. []s Ciça usuário: Ciça
> título: Santo de pano Meu nome é Nilce  faço parte de um grupo e  estamos
> fazendo alguns trabalhos artesanais, não somente santos, mas temos algumas
> amostras para vo^cês, caso haja interesse poderá estar entrando em contato
> conosco pelo  e-mail : nil...@gm... ou Tel.(19)32279940  ou Cel.
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> mas temos algumas amostras para vo^cês, caso haja interesse poderá estar
> entrando em contato conosco pelo  e-mail : nil...@gm... ou
> Tel.(19)32279940  ou Cel. 92034323 usuário:  título: Santo de pano  Meu nome
> é Nilce  faço parte de um grupo e  estamos fazendo alguns trabalhos
> artesanais, não somente santos, mas temos algumas amostras para vo^cês, caso
> haja interesse poderá estar entrando em contato conosco pelo  e-mail :
> nil...@gm... ou Tel.(19)32279940  ou Cel. 92034323 usuário:
>  título: Santo de pano  Meu nome é Nilce  faço parte de um grupo e  estamos
> fazendo alguns trabalhos artesanais, não somente santos, mas temos algumas
> amostras para vo^cês, caso haja interesse poderá estar entrando em contato
> conosco pelo  e-mail : nil...@gm... ou Tel.(19)32279940  ou Cel.
> 92034323 usuário:  título: Santo de pano  Meu nome é Nilce  faço parte de um
> grupo e  estamos fazendo alguns trabalhos artesanais, não somente santos,
> mas temos algumas amostras para vo^cês, caso haja interesse poderá estar
> entrando em contato conosco pelo  e-mail : nil...@gm... ou
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[Senseclusters-users] error running senseclusters

[Julio C. d. R. <jul...@ct...>]

Hello.
I'm a new user of senseclusters and I have trying to make some tests 
with a corpus, however I got some error and I don't know how to fix or 
better improve the options of the parameters to overcome it.

Could anybody help me?

I'm using the marimba server.

the options was


        discriminate.pl "user-test.xml" --lsa --format f16.06 --token
        "token.regex" --feature bi --stop stopfile --context o2
        --clusters 8 --space vector --clmethod agglo --crfun i2 --sim
        cos --label_stop label_stopfile --label_stat ll --label_rank 10
        --eval --prefix "user"


      and I got:


      There was an error while running this experiment.


Ignoring regex with no delimiters: @stop.mode=OR

Ignoring regex with no delimiters: @stop.mode=OR

ERROR(discriminate.pl):

	Only 0 FEATURES found in the  file. 

	At least 10 FEATURES required to proceed with context 

	representation.



*_the files used (corpus and stopwords in portuguese) are attached_*


I'm waiting for answering

Best Regards

Júlio

Re: [Senseclusters-users] Installation problems: tests fail on clusterstopping due to vcluster

[Ted P. <dul...@gm...>]

Hi Leo,

This is probably not something to be concerned about, since some of
the cluster stopping mechanisms incorporate a bit of randomization,
and so there can be some variation in the results depending on how
that is done. I would guess that the differences aren't a lot though
(usually between 3 or 4 clusters, for example). So, I would not be too
worried about these tests failing. I should also make sure to make
this a bit more robust (both checking for 64 bit systems and then
allowing for a bit of variation in the cluster stopping results.)  The
same issue exists for SVD, btw, where results can vary a bit due to
some randomizations done during SVD - in that case the test cases have
been adapted to be a bit "fuzzier" so usually those run ok.

I hope this helps, let us know as questions arise!

Good luck,
Ted

On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 12:50 PM, Leo Alekseyev <dn...@gm...> wrote:
> Ted, thanks for your response.  All tests now run, however a number of
> tests in the /Testing/clusterstop/clusterstopping directory still
> fail, e.g.:
>
>
> # csh ./testA1.sh
> Test A1 - Testing clusterstopping.pl with default settings.
> Running clusterstopping.pl --prefix testA1 testA1.vectors
> STATUS : ERROR Test Results don't Match....
> When Tested Against testA1.reqd -
> 1c1
> < 8
> ---
>> 3
> STATUS : OK File testA1.cr.dat created.
> STATUS : OK File testA1.pk3 created.
> STATUS : OK File testA1.pk3.dat created.
>
> -----------
>
> # csh ./testA2.sh
> Test A2 - Testing clusterstopping.pl when using all measures.
> Running clusterstopping.pl --prefix testA2 --measure all --clmethod
> rbr --crfun e1 --precision 6 --seed 3 testA2.vectors
> STATUS : ERROR Test Results don't Match....
> When Tested Against testA2.reqd -
> 1c1
> < 10
> ---
>> 9
> STATUS : OK File testA2.cr.dat created.
> STATUS : OK File testA2.pk1 created.
> .................
>
> Is this something to be concerned about?..
> --Leo
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 5:06 AM, Ted Pedersen <dul...@gm...> wrote:
>> If you have a 64 bit machine, you'll want to make sure you are using
>> the 64 bit version of Cluto.
>>
>> http://glaros.dtc.umn.edu/gkhome/fetch/sw/cluto/cluto-2.1.2a.tar.gz
>>
>> The install.sh script that comes with SenseClusters only uses version
>> 2.1.1, which doesn't handle 64 bit Linux, so this is something we will
>> change. However, for now I think if you download the 64 bit version of
>> Cluto that should resolve this problem.
>>
>> More on the different versions of Cluto can be found here:
>>
>> http://glaros.dtc.umn.edu/gkhome/cluto/cluto/download
>>
>> Please let us know if additional questions arise!
>>
>> Good luck,
>> Ted
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 9:20 PM, Leo Alekseyev <dn...@gm...> wrote:
>>> I am trying to install Senseclusters as root on a linux machine
>>> running Ubuntu 9.04 64 bit; everything appears to install fine but the
>>> test suite fails on clusterstopping.pl -- apparently there are
>>> problems with the vcluster executable
>>>
>>> now /usr/local/bin is in PATH and when i try to just type "vcluster"
>>> at the command line it says
>>> -su: /usr/local/bin/vcluster: No such file or directory
>>>
>>> The test script output is below.  I'd appreciate any help with this!
>>> --Leo
>>>
>>> root@ubuntu:/home/leo/downloads/Text-SenseClusters-1.01/Testing/clusterstop/clusterstopping#
>>> csh ./testA1.sh
>>> Test A1 - Testing clusterstopping.pl with default settings.
>>> Running clusterstopping.pl --prefix testA1 testA1.vectors
>>> sh: vcluster: not found
>>> Error while running vcluster --clmethod rb --crfun i2 --sim cos
>>> --rowmodel none --colmodel none --nooutput  testA1.vectors 1
>>> STATUS : ERROR Test Results don't Match....
>>> When Tested Against testA1.reqd -
>>> 0a1
>>>> 3
>>> STATUS : OK File testA1.cr.dat created.
>>> STATUS : OK File testA1.pk3 created.
>>> STATUS : ERROR File testA1.pk3.dat NOT created.
>>>
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>>
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>> http://www.d.umn.edu/~tpederse
>>
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Re: [Senseclusters-users] Installation problems: tests fail on clusterstopping due to vcluster

[Leo A. <dn...@gm...>]

Ted, thanks for your response.  All tests now run, however a number of
tests in the /Testing/clusterstop/clusterstopping directory still
fail, e.g.:


# csh ./testA1.sh
Test A1 - Testing clusterstopping.pl with default settings.
Running clusterstopping.pl --prefix testA1 testA1.vectors
STATUS : ERROR Test Results don't Match....
When Tested Against testA1.reqd -
1c1
< 8
---
> 3
STATUS : OK File testA1.cr.dat created.
STATUS : OK File testA1.pk3 created.
STATUS : OK File testA1.pk3.dat created.

-----------

# csh ./testA2.sh
Test A2 - Testing clusterstopping.pl when using all measures.
Running clusterstopping.pl --prefix testA2 --measure all --clmethod
rbr --crfun e1 --precision 6 --seed 3 testA2.vectors
STATUS : ERROR Test Results don't Match....
When Tested Against testA2.reqd -
1c1
< 10
---
> 9
STATUS : OK File testA2.cr.dat created.
STATUS : OK File testA2.pk1 created.
.................

Is this something to be concerned about?..
--Leo


On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 5:06 AM, Ted Pedersen <dul...@gm...> wrote:
> If you have a 64 bit machine, you'll want to make sure you are using
> the 64 bit version of Cluto.
>
> http://glaros.dtc.umn.edu/gkhome/fetch/sw/cluto/cluto-2.1.2a.tar.gz
>
> The install.sh script that comes with SenseClusters only uses version
> 2.1.1, which doesn't handle 64 bit Linux, so this is something we will
> change. However, for now I think if you download the 64 bit version of
> Cluto that should resolve this problem.
>
> More on the different versions of Cluto can be found here:
>
> http://glaros.dtc.umn.edu/gkhome/cluto/cluto/download
>
> Please let us know if additional questions arise!
>
> Good luck,
> Ted
>
> On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 9:20 PM, Leo Alekseyev <dn...@gm...> wrote:
>> I am trying to install Senseclusters as root on a linux machine
>> running Ubuntu 9.04 64 bit; everything appears to install fine but the
>> test suite fails on clusterstopping.pl -- apparently there are
>> problems with the vcluster executable
>>
>> now /usr/local/bin is in PATH and when i try to just type "vcluster"
>> at the command line it says
>> -su: /usr/local/bin/vcluster: No such file or directory
>>
>> The test script output is below.  I'd appreciate any help with this!
>> --Leo
>>
>> root@ubuntu:/home/leo/downloads/Text-SenseClusters-1.01/Testing/clusterstop/clusterstopping#
>> csh ./testA1.sh
>> Test A1 - Testing clusterstopping.pl with default settings.
>> Running clusterstopping.pl --prefix testA1 testA1.vectors
>> sh: vcluster: not found
>> Error while running vcluster --clmethod rb --crfun i2 --sim cos
>> --rowmodel none --colmodel none --nooutput  testA1.vectors 1
>> STATUS : ERROR Test Results don't Match....
>> When Tested Against testA1.reqd -
>> 0a1
>>> 3
>> STATUS : OK File testA1.cr.dat created.
>> STATUS : OK File testA1.pk3 created.
>> STATUS : ERROR File testA1.pk3.dat NOT created.
>>
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Re: [Senseclusters-users] Installation problems: tests fail on clusterstopping due to vcluster

[Ted P. <dul...@gm...>]

If you have a 64 bit machine, you'll want to make sure you are using
the 64 bit version of Cluto.

http://glaros.dtc.umn.edu/gkhome/fetch/sw/cluto/cluto-2.1.2a.tar.gz

The install.sh script that comes with SenseClusters only uses version
2.1.1, which doesn't handle 64 bit Linux, so this is something we will
change. However, for now I think if you download the 64 bit version of
Cluto that should resolve this problem.

More on the different versions of Cluto can be found here:

http://glaros.dtc.umn.edu/gkhome/cluto/cluto/download

Please let us know if additional questions arise!

Good luck,
Ted

On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 9:20 PM, Leo Alekseyev <dn...@gm...> wrote:
> I am trying to install Senseclusters as root on a linux machine
> running Ubuntu 9.04 64 bit; everything appears to install fine but the
> test suite fails on clusterstopping.pl -- apparently there are
> problems with the vcluster executable
>
> now /usr/local/bin is in PATH and when i try to just type "vcluster"
> at the command line it says
> -su: /usr/local/bin/vcluster: No such file or directory
>
> The test script output is below.  I'd appreciate any help with this!
> --Leo
>
> root@ubuntu:/home/leo/downloads/Text-SenseClusters-1.01/Testing/clusterstop/clusterstopping#
> csh ./testA1.sh
> Test A1 - Testing clusterstopping.pl with default settings.
> Running clusterstopping.pl --prefix testA1 testA1.vectors
> sh: vcluster: not found
> Error while running vcluster --clmethod rb --crfun i2 --sim cos
> --rowmodel none --colmodel none --nooutput  testA1.vectors 1
> STATUS : ERROR Test Results don't Match....
> When Tested Against testA1.reqd -
> 0a1
>> 3
> STATUS : OK File testA1.cr.dat created.
> STATUS : OK File testA1.pk3 created.
> STATUS : ERROR File testA1.pk3.dat NOT created.
>
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[Senseclusters-users] Installation problems: tests fail on clusterstopping due to vcluster

[Leo A. <dn...@gm...>]

I am trying to install Senseclusters as root on a linux machine
running Ubuntu 9.04 64 bit; everything appears to install fine but the
test suite fails on clusterstopping.pl -- apparently there are
problems with the vcluster executable

now /usr/local/bin is in PATH and when i try to just type "vcluster"
at the command line it says
-su: /usr/local/bin/vcluster: No such file or directory

The test script output is below.  I'd appreciate any help with this!
--Leo

root@ubuntu:/home/leo/downloads/Text-SenseClusters-1.01/Testing/clusterstop/clusterstopping#
csh ./testA1.sh
Test A1 - Testing clusterstopping.pl with default settings.
Running clusterstopping.pl --prefix testA1 testA1.vectors
sh: vcluster: not found
Error while running vcluster --clmethod rb --crfun i2 --sim cos
--rowmodel none --colmodel none --nooutput  testA1.vectors 1
STATUS : ERROR Test Results don't Match....
When Tested Against testA1.reqd -
0a1
> 3
STATUS : OK File testA1.cr.dat created.
STATUS : OK File testA1.pk3 created.
STATUS : ERROR File testA1.pk3.dat NOT created.

Re: [Senseclusters-users] install sensecluster in Cywgin or Mac OS

[Ted P. <dul...@gm...>]

Hi Lingzhi,

Based on what you describe, I think this is a problem with Cluto being
able to run on your/Aptana's Solaris system. And you are correct,
since Cluto is distributed in binary form it limits your ability to be
able to resolve this by recompiling, etc. If you have tried both
versions of Cluto (32 and 64 bit) then I'm afraid your best option
might be to try another system.

Sorry about that, but I hope this works out for you! Please stay in
touch and let us know how it goes.

Cordially,
Ted

On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 10:55 PM, Lingzhi Zhang<lz...@gm...> wrote:
> Thanks Ted.
>
> I didn't use bourne shell. When I ran the test case of clusterstopping.pl,
> the error that I got is
>
> sh: vcluster: cannot execute
>
> I thought that the test case itself might use bourne shell, which is not
> true. So My guess was wrong.
>
> I use the hosting service of aptana. It runs on the solaris. I don't know
> why it doesn't work. Not only vcluster, the scluster seems not working
> either. I contract the George, but he didn't either. I wish CLUTO could have
> been released with source code. :-)
>
> Any way, I will try this on my cygwin first, and may try to resolve this
> issue later.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Lingzhi
>
> On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 7:54 PM, Ted Pedersen <dul...@gm...> wrote:
>>
>> Thanks for these additional details. I'm not entirely clear why you
>> would need the "sh" shell - I don't think we explicitly use that
>> (unless I am mistaken). Some of the files are named *.sh, but those
>> use the csh shell.
>>
>> We developed SenseClusters on Solaris/Sun OS, and that's actually one
>> of the reasons why we use csh quite a bit, since that is what
>> Solaris/Sun OS typically uses as the command line shell (often tcsh I
>> think). If you are using sh for something, you may want to use csh
>> instead. In general we run SenseClusters using the csh shell.
>>
>> Can you clarify when and why you are using the sh shell?
>>
>> Thanks!
>> Ted
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 1:02 PM, Lingzhi Zhang<lz...@gm...> wrote:
>> > Hi, Ted,
>> >
>> > Thanks for your advice. The vcluster is in the path. The problem is that
>> > I
>> > can execute under the bash shell, and csh shell. However, when I change
>> > to
>> > sh, it does't work.
>> >
>> > -bash-3.2$ ls
>> > libcluto.a  scluster    vcluster
>> > -bash-3.2$ ./vcluster
>> > -bash: ./vcluster: Invalid argument
>> > -bash-3.2$ sh
>> > $ vcluster
>> > ./vcluster: cannot execute
>> > $
>> >
>> > It seems that vcluster doesn't work under "sh", which looks also what
>> > shell
>> > is used in the clutostopping.pl
>> >
>> > Running clusterstopping.pl --prefix testA1 testA1.vectors
>> > sh: vcluster: cannot execute
>> >
>> > Here is the outup when I run:
>> >
>> > SunOS dab442ca.joyent.us 5.11 snv_89 i86pc i386 i86pc
>> >
>> > I will put those not on the workaround that we made.
>> >
>> > Thank you.
>> >
>> > Lingzhi
>> >
>> > On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 2:36 AM, Ted Pedersen <dul...@gm...>
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Hi Lingzhi,
>> >>
>> >> Cluto comes as a binary distribution only, so you have to make sure
>> >> you get the right version for your hardware. If you used the intstall
>> >> script that comes with SenseClusters (install.sh), you *might* be
>> >> getting the wrong version, since it doesn't actually check to make
>> >> sure it's getting the right one (this is a problem with that script,
>> >> and it should be modified in our next release).
>> >>
>> >> http://glaros.dtc.umn.edu/gkhome/cluto/cluto/download
>> >>
>> >> By default you are getting the Linux i686 version ( cluto-2.1.1.tar.gz
>> >> ), which does also work with SunOS. However, it might be that you need
>> >> the other version (for reasons that I'm not entirely clear about,
>> >> since both are said to work with SunOS)...
>> >>
>> >> http://glaros.dtc.umn.edu/gkhome/fetch/sw/cluto/cluto-2.1.2a.tar.gz
>> >>
>> >> This is a little bit of a guess, to be honest, but it's the first
>> >> thing to check, assuming that your paths are ok. Try and run
>> >>
>> >> which vcluster
>> >>
>> >> If you get back the name of some path where vcluster resides, then
>> >> it's not a path problem.
>> >>
>> >> If you still have problems after trying the other version, please send
>> >> me the output of the following:
>> >>
>> >> which vcluster
>> >> uname -a
>> >> echo $PATH
>> >>
>> >> Also, some description of the other problems you had and how you
>> >> worked around them might be helpful.
>> >>
>> >> I hope this helps, please let us know how things go!
>> >>
>> >> Cordially,
>> >> Ted
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 2:25 AM, Lingzhi Zhang<lz...@gm...>
>> >> wrote:
>> >> > Hi, Ted,
>> >> > We signed up hosting, so we tried installing Senseclusters into
>> >> > server.
>> >> > It
>> >> > is a solaris machine. There were some issues during installation,
>> >> > however,
>> >> > we found work-around. When we run the test, everything else is OK but
>> >> > still
>> >> > one error. The installation of CLUTO seems OK. However, it seems that
>> >> > vcluster can't be execute under sh. But it is OK under bash or csh.
>> >> > Do
>> >> > you
>> >> > have a hint on how to work this around.
>> >> > Lingzhi
>> >> > ----------------------------------------------------
>> >> >  ------------- clusterstopping.pl -------------------
>> >> >  ----------------------------------------------------
>> >> > Test A1 - Testing clusterstopping.pl with default settings.
>> >> > Running clusterstopping.pl --prefix testA1 testA1.vectors
>> >> > sh: vcluster: cannot execute
>> >> > Error while running vcluster --clmethod rb --crfun i2 --sim cos
>> >> > --rowmodel
>> >> > none --colmodel none --nooutput  testA1.vectors 1
>> >> > STATUS : ERROR Test Results don't Match....
>> >> > When Tested Against testA1.reqd -
>> >> > 0a1
>> >> >> 7
>> >> > STATUS : OK File testA1.cr.dat created.
>> >> > STATUS : OK File testA1.pk3 created.
>> >> > STATUS : ERROR File testA1.pk3.dat NOT created.
>> >> >
>> >> > On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 6:23 AM, Ted Pedersen <dul...@gm...>
>> >> > wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Hi Lingzhi,
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Thanks for the detailed report, that's really very helpful.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> It looks to me like everything is working pretty well, and I
>> >> >> wouldn't
>> >> >> be overly concerned about this particular error. In general there
>> >> >> are
>> >> >> some places in cluster stopping where the algorithm essentially
>> >> >> makes
>> >> >> a random choice, and there is some possibility of different
>> >> >> platforms
>> >> >> giving different results due to how random numbers are generated. If
>> >> >> everything else seems to be working ok (which it does, as far as I
>> >> >> can
>> >> >> tell) then I think you can proceed without any concern.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> You may, however, want to run a case or two from your data through
>> >> >> the
>> >> >> web interface, just to make sure you are getting approximately the
>> >> >> same results for your installation.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Please let us know if there are any further questions or anomalies.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Good luck!
>> >> >> Ted
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On Sun, Aug 23, 2009 at 8:03 PM, Lingzhi Zhang<lz...@gm...>
>> >> >> wrote:
>> >> >> > Thanks Ted.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > I tried installation to Cygwin. The problem during the
>> >> >> > installation
>> >> >> > that
>> >> >> > I
>> >> >> > had was when installing the PDL. But after running the rebase, i
>> >> >> > successfully installed the PDL; the SenseCluster was installed
>> >> >> > successfully
>> >> >> > afterwards. ( I used the manual installation. )
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > SVDPACKC was installed and run without problem. As you advised,
>> >> >> > the
>> >> >> > CLUTO
>> >> >> > seems to be a problem since they only distribute binary. I
>> >> >> > installed
>> >> >> > the
>> >> >> > CLUTO binary for win32. It ran, however, the clustestopping test
>> >> >> > failed.
>> >> >> > This is the only error that I got when running the ALL_TEST.sh,
>> >> >> > Other
>> >> >> > than
>> >> >> > that everything else worked very well. ( I seached the word
>> >> >> > "error"
>> >> >> > in
>> >> >> > the
>> >> >> > test result )
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >  ----------------------------------------------------
>> >> >> >  ------------- clusterstopping.pl -------------------
>> >> >> >  ----------------------------------------------------
>> >> >> > Test A1 - Testing clusterstopping.pl with default settings.
>> >> >> > Running clusterstopping.pl --prefix testA1 testA1.vectors
>> >> >> > STATUS : ERROR Test Results don't Match....
>> >> >> > When Tested Against testA1.reqd -
>> >> >> > STATUS : OK File testA1.cr.dat created.
>> >> >> > STATUS : OK File testA1.pk3 created.
>> >> >> > STATUS : OK File testA1.pk3.dat created.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Do you have any advice on why this test failed? Is it related with
>> >> >> > the
>> >> >> > CLUTO?
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Thank you.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Lingzhi
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > PS: The test result is attached to this email.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > On Sat, Aug 22, 2009 at 1:04 PM, Ted Pedersen
>> >> >> > <dul...@gm...>
>> >> >> > wrote:
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Hi Lingzhi,
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> I have personally only run SenseClusters on Linux or Solaris (Sun
>> >> >> >> OS).
>> >> >> >> In general Perl and C are very portable, and that is what the
>> >> >> >> vast
>> >> >> >> majority of SenseClusters is written in. However, clustering is
>> >> >> >> done
>> >> >> >> by the Cluto package, which is only distributed in binary form,
>> >> >> >> and
>> >> >> >> that is only available for Linux, Solaris (Sun OS) and MS
>> >> >> >> Windows.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> http://glaros.dtc.umn.edu/gkhome/cluto/cluto/download
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Given that, my guess is that SenseClusters wouldn't port to
>> >> >> >> MacOS,
>> >> >> >> but
>> >> >> >> should (in theory) be portable to CygWin. However, this is just a
>> >> >> >> guess, so I don't know for sure.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Also, keep in mind our web interface is always available, in the
>> >> >> >> event
>> >> >> >> you aren't able to install on your own system.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> http://marimba.d.umn.edu/cgi-bin/SC-cgi/index.cgi
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> I hope this helps. Please let us know as questions arise!
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Cordially,
>> >> >> >> Ted
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> On Sat, Aug 22, 2009 at 11:46 AM, Lingzhi
>> >> >> >> Zhang<lz...@gm...>
>> >> >> >> wrote:
>> >> >> >> > Hi,
>> >> >> >> > Can sensecluseter run under Cygwin or Mac OS? Did anybody try
>> >> >> >> > it
>> >> >> >> > successfully? Or it is only tested and run under linux system.
>> >> >> >> > Thanks.
>> >> >> >> > Lingzhi
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >
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Re: [Senseclusters-users] install sensecluster in Cywgin or Mac OS

[Lingzhi Z. <lz...@gm...>]

Thanks Ted.

I didn't use bourne shell. When I ran the test case of clusterstopping.pl,
the error that I got is

sh: vcluster: cannot execute

I thought that the test case itself might use bourne shell, which is not
true. So My guess was wrong.

I use the hosting service of aptana. It runs on the solaris. I don't know
why it doesn't work. Not only vcluster, the scluster seems not working
either. I contract the George, but he didn't either. I wish CLUTO could have
been released with source code. :-)

Any way, I will try this on my cygwin first, and may try to resolve this
issue later.

Thanks.

Lingzhi

On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 7:54 PM, Ted Pedersen <dul...@gm...> wrote:

> Thanks for these additional details. I'm not entirely clear why you
> would need the "sh" shell - I don't think we explicitly use that
> (unless I am mistaken). Some of the files are named *.sh, but those
> use the csh shell.
>
> We developed SenseClusters on Solaris/Sun OS, and that's actually one
> of the reasons why we use csh quite a bit, since that is what
> Solaris/Sun OS typically uses as the command line shell (often tcsh I
> think). If you are using sh for something, you may want to use csh
> instead. In general we run SenseClusters using the csh shell.
>
> Can you clarify when and why you are using the sh shell?
>
> Thanks!
> Ted
>
> On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 1:02 PM, Lingzhi Zhang<lz...@gm...> wrote:
> > Hi, Ted,
> >
> > Thanks for your advice. The vcluster is in the path. The problem is that
> I
> > can execute under the bash shell, and csh shell. However, when I change
> to
> > sh, it does't work.
> >
> > -bash-3.2$ ls
> > libcluto.a  scluster    vcluster
> > -bash-3.2$ ./vcluster
> > -bash: ./vcluster: Invalid argument
> > -bash-3.2$ sh
> > $ vcluster
> > ./vcluster: cannot execute
> > $
> >
> > It seems that vcluster doesn't work under "sh", which looks also what
> shell
> > is used in the clutostopping.pl
> >
> > Running clusterstopping.pl --prefix testA1 testA1.vectors
> > sh: vcluster: cannot execute
> >
> > Here is the outup when I run:
> >
> > SunOS dab442ca.joyent.us 5.11 snv_89 i86pc i386 i86pc
> >
> > I will put those not on the workaround that we made.
> >
> > Thank you.
> >
> > Lingzhi
> >
> > On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 2:36 AM, Ted Pedersen <dul...@gm...>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi Lingzhi,
> >>
> >> Cluto comes as a binary distribution only, so you have to make sure
> >> you get the right version for your hardware. If you used the intstall
> >> script that comes with SenseClusters (install.sh), you *might* be
> >> getting the wrong version, since it doesn't actually check to make
> >> sure it's getting the right one (this is a problem with that script,
> >> and it should be modified in our next release).
> >>
> >> http://glaros.dtc.umn.edu/gkhome/cluto/cluto/download
> >>
> >> By default you are getting the Linux i686 version ( cluto-2.1.1.tar.gz
> >> ), which does also work with SunOS. However, it might be that you need
> >> the other version (for reasons that I'm not entirely clear about,
> >> since both are said to work with SunOS)...
> >>
> >> http://glaros.dtc.umn.edu/gkhome/fetch/sw/cluto/cluto-2.1.2a.tar.gz
> >>
> >> This is a little bit of a guess, to be honest, but it's the first
> >> thing to check, assuming that your paths are ok. Try and run
> >>
> >> which vcluster
> >>
> >> If you get back the name of some path where vcluster resides, then
> >> it's not a path problem.
> >>
> >> If you still have problems after trying the other version, please send
> >> me the output of the following:
> >>
> >> which vcluster
> >> uname -a
> >> echo $PATH
> >>
> >> Also, some description of the other problems you had and how you
> >> worked around them might be helpful.
> >>
> >> I hope this helps, please let us know how things go!
> >>
> >> Cordially,
> >> Ted
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 2:25 AM, Lingzhi Zhang<lz...@gm...>
> wrote:
> >> > Hi, Ted,
> >> > We signed up hosting, so we tried installing Senseclusters into
> server.
> >> > It
> >> > is a solaris machine. There were some issues during installation,
> >> > however,
> >> > we found work-around. When we run the test, everything else is OK but
> >> > still
> >> > one error. The installation of CLUTO seems OK. However, it seems that
> >> > vcluster can't be execute under sh. But it is OK under bash or csh. Do
> >> > you
> >> > have a hint on how to work this around.
> >> > Lingzhi
> >> > ----------------------------------------------------
> >> >  ------------- clusterstopping.pl -------------------
> >> >  ----------------------------------------------------
> >> > Test A1 - Testing clusterstopping.pl with default settings.
> >> > Running clusterstopping.pl --prefix testA1 testA1.vectors
> >> > sh: vcluster: cannot execute
> >> > Error while running vcluster --clmethod rb --crfun i2 --sim cos
> >> > --rowmodel
> >> > none --colmodel none --nooutput  testA1.vectors 1
> >> > STATUS : ERROR Test Results don't Match....
> >> > When Tested Against testA1.reqd -
> >> > 0a1
> >> >> 7
> >> > STATUS : OK File testA1.cr.dat created.
> >> > STATUS : OK File testA1.pk3 created.
> >> > STATUS : ERROR File testA1.pk3.dat NOT created.
> >> >
> >> > On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 6:23 AM, Ted Pedersen <dul...@gm...>
> >> > wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> Hi Lingzhi,
> >> >>
> >> >> Thanks for the detailed report, that's really very helpful.
> >> >>
> >> >> It looks to me like everything is working pretty well, and I wouldn't
> >> >> be overly concerned about this particular error. In general there are
> >> >> some places in cluster stopping where the algorithm essentially makes
> >> >> a random choice, and there is some possibility of different platforms
> >> >> giving different results due to how random numbers are generated. If
> >> >> everything else seems to be working ok (which it does, as far as I
> can
> >> >> tell) then I think you can proceed without any concern.
> >> >>
> >> >> You may, however, want to run a case or two from your data through
> the
> >> >> web interface, just to make sure you are getting approximately the
> >> >> same results for your installation.
> >> >>
> >> >> Please let us know if there are any further questions or anomalies.
> >> >>
> >> >> Good luck!
> >> >> Ted
> >> >>
> >> >> On Sun, Aug 23, 2009 at 8:03 PM, Lingzhi Zhang<lz...@gm...>
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >> > Thanks Ted.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I tried installation to Cygwin. The problem during the installation
> >> >> > that
> >> >> > I
> >> >> > had was when installing the PDL. But after running the rebase, i
> >> >> > successfully installed the PDL; the SenseCluster was installed
> >> >> > successfully
> >> >> > afterwards. ( I used the manual installation. )
> >> >> >
> >> >> > SVDPACKC was installed and run without problem. As you advised, the
> >> >> > CLUTO
> >> >> > seems to be a problem since they only distribute binary. I
> installed
> >> >> > the
> >> >> > CLUTO binary for win32. It ran, however, the clustestopping test
> >> >> > failed.
> >> >> > This is the only error that I got when running the ALL_TEST.sh,
> Other
> >> >> > than
> >> >> > that everything else worked very well. ( I seached the word "error"
> >> >> > in
> >> >> > the
> >> >> > test result )
> >> >> >
> >> >> >  ----------------------------------------------------
> >> >> >  ------------- clusterstopping.pl -------------------
> >> >> >  ----------------------------------------------------
> >> >> > Test A1 - Testing clusterstopping.pl with default settings.
> >> >> > Running clusterstopping.pl --prefix testA1 testA1.vectors
> >> >> > STATUS : ERROR Test Results don't Match....
> >> >> > When Tested Against testA1.reqd -
> >> >> > STATUS : OK File testA1.cr.dat created.
> >> >> > STATUS : OK File testA1.pk3 created.
> >> >> > STATUS : OK File testA1.pk3.dat created.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Do you have any advice on why this test failed? Is it related with
> >> >> > the
> >> >> > CLUTO?
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Thank you.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Lingzhi
> >> >> >
> >> >> > PS: The test result is attached to this email.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > On Sat, Aug 22, 2009 at 1:04 PM, Ted Pedersen <dul...@gm...
> >
> >> >> > wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Hi Lingzhi,
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> I have personally only run SenseClusters on Linux or Solaris (Sun
> >> >> >> OS).
> >> >> >> In general Perl and C are very portable, and that is what the vast
> >> >> >> majority of SenseClusters is written in. However, clustering is
> done
> >> >> >> by the Cluto package, which is only distributed in binary form,
> and
> >> >> >> that is only available for Linux, Solaris (Sun OS) and MS Windows.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> http://glaros.dtc.umn.edu/gkhome/cluto/cluto/download
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Given that, my guess is that SenseClusters wouldn't port to MacOS,
> >> >> >> but
> >> >> >> should (in theory) be portable to CygWin. However, this is just a
> >> >> >> guess, so I don't know for sure.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Also, keep in mind our web interface is always available, in the
> >> >> >> event
> >> >> >> you aren't able to install on your own system.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> http://marimba.d.umn.edu/cgi-bin/SC-cgi/index.cgi
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> I hope this helps. Please let us know as questions arise!
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Cordially,
> >> >> >> Ted
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> On Sat, Aug 22, 2009 at 11:46 AM, Lingzhi Zhang<lz...@gm...
> >
> >> >> >> wrote:
> >> >> >> > Hi,
> >> >> >> > Can sensecluseter run under Cygwin or Mac OS? Did anybody try it
> >> >> >> > successfully? Or it is only tested and run under linux system.
> >> >> >> > Thanks.
> >> >> >> > Lingzhi
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
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> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> --
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> >> >> >> http://www.d.umn.edu/~tpederse <http://www.d.umn.edu/%7Etpederse>
> >> >> >>
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> >> >> --
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> >> >> http://www.d.umn.edu/~tpederse <http://www.d.umn.edu/%7Etpederse>
> >> >>
> >> >>
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> >>
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Re: [Senseclusters-users] install sensecluster in Cywgin or Mac OS

[Ted P. <dul...@gm...>]

Thanks for these additional details. I'm not entirely clear why you
would need the "sh" shell - I don't think we explicitly use that
(unless I am mistaken). Some of the files are named *.sh, but those
use the csh shell.

We developed SenseClusters on Solaris/Sun OS, and that's actually one
of the reasons why we use csh quite a bit, since that is what
Solaris/Sun OS typically uses as the command line shell (often tcsh I
think). If you are using sh for something, you may want to use csh
instead. In general we run SenseClusters using the csh shell.

Can you clarify when and why you are using the sh shell?

Thanks!
Ted

On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 1:02 PM, Lingzhi Zhang<lz...@gm...> wrote:
> Hi, Ted,
>
> Thanks for your advice. The vcluster is in the path. The problem is that I
> can execute under the bash shell, and csh shell. However, when I change to
> sh, it does't work.
>
> -bash-3.2$ ls
> libcluto.a  scluster    vcluster
> -bash-3.2$ ./vcluster
> -bash: ./vcluster: Invalid argument
> -bash-3.2$ sh
> $ vcluster
> ./vcluster: cannot execute
> $
>
> It seems that vcluster doesn't work under "sh", which looks also what shell
> is used in the clutostopping.pl
>
> Running clusterstopping.pl --prefix testA1 testA1.vectors
> sh: vcluster: cannot execute
>
> Here is the outup when I run:
>
> SunOS dab442ca.joyent.us 5.11 snv_89 i86pc i386 i86pc
>
> I will put those not on the workaround that we made.
>
> Thank you.
>
> Lingzhi
>
> On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 2:36 AM, Ted Pedersen <dul...@gm...> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Lingzhi,
>>
>> Cluto comes as a binary distribution only, so you have to make sure
>> you get the right version for your hardware. If you used the intstall
>> script that comes with SenseClusters (install.sh), you *might* be
>> getting the wrong version, since it doesn't actually check to make
>> sure it's getting the right one (this is a problem with that script,
>> and it should be modified in our next release).
>>
>> http://glaros.dtc.umn.edu/gkhome/cluto/cluto/download
>>
>> By default you are getting the Linux i686 version ( cluto-2.1.1.tar.gz
>> ), which does also work with SunOS. However, it might be that you need
>> the other version (for reasons that I'm not entirely clear about,
>> since both are said to work with SunOS)...
>>
>> http://glaros.dtc.umn.edu/gkhome/fetch/sw/cluto/cluto-2.1.2a.tar.gz
>>
>> This is a little bit of a guess, to be honest, but it's the first
>> thing to check, assuming that your paths are ok. Try and run
>>
>> which vcluster
>>
>> If you get back the name of some path where vcluster resides, then
>> it's not a path problem.
>>
>> If you still have problems after trying the other version, please send
>> me the output of the following:
>>
>> which vcluster
>> uname -a
>> echo $PATH
>>
>> Also, some description of the other problems you had and how you
>> worked around them might be helpful.
>>
>> I hope this helps, please let us know how things go!
>>
>> Cordially,
>> Ted
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 2:25 AM, Lingzhi Zhang<lz...@gm...> wrote:
>> > Hi, Ted,
>> > We signed up hosting, so we tried installing Senseclusters into server.
>> > It
>> > is a solaris machine. There were some issues during installation,
>> > however,
>> > we found work-around. When we run the test, everything else is OK but
>> > still
>> > one error. The installation of CLUTO seems OK. However, it seems that
>> > vcluster can't be execute under sh. But it is OK under bash or csh. Do
>> > you
>> > have a hint on how to work this around.
>> > Lingzhi
>> > ----------------------------------------------------
>> >  ------------- clusterstopping.pl -------------------
>> >  ----------------------------------------------------
>> > Test A1 - Testing clusterstopping.pl with default settings.
>> > Running clusterstopping.pl --prefix testA1 testA1.vectors
>> > sh: vcluster: cannot execute
>> > Error while running vcluster --clmethod rb --crfun i2 --sim cos
>> > --rowmodel
>> > none --colmodel none --nooutput  testA1.vectors 1
>> > STATUS : ERROR Test Results don't Match....
>> > When Tested Against testA1.reqd -
>> > 0a1
>> >> 7
>> > STATUS : OK File testA1.cr.dat created.
>> > STATUS : OK File testA1.pk3 created.
>> > STATUS : ERROR File testA1.pk3.dat NOT created.
>> >
>> > On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 6:23 AM, Ted Pedersen <dul...@gm...>
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Hi Lingzhi,
>> >>
>> >> Thanks for the detailed report, that's really very helpful.
>> >>
>> >> It looks to me like everything is working pretty well, and I wouldn't
>> >> be overly concerned about this particular error. In general there are
>> >> some places in cluster stopping where the algorithm essentially makes
>> >> a random choice, and there is some possibility of different platforms
>> >> giving different results due to how random numbers are generated. If
>> >> everything else seems to be working ok (which it does, as far as I can
>> >> tell) then I think you can proceed without any concern.
>> >>
>> >> You may, however, want to run a case or two from your data through the
>> >> web interface, just to make sure you are getting approximately the
>> >> same results for your installation.
>> >>
>> >> Please let us know if there are any further questions or anomalies.
>> >>
>> >> Good luck!
>> >> Ted
>> >>
>> >> On Sun, Aug 23, 2009 at 8:03 PM, Lingzhi Zhang<lz...@gm...>
>> >> wrote:
>> >> > Thanks Ted.
>> >> >
>> >> > I tried installation to Cygwin. The problem during the installation
>> >> > that
>> >> > I
>> >> > had was when installing the PDL. But after running the rebase, i
>> >> > successfully installed the PDL; the SenseCluster was installed
>> >> > successfully
>> >> > afterwards. ( I used the manual installation. )
>> >> >
>> >> > SVDPACKC was installed and run without problem. As you advised, the
>> >> > CLUTO
>> >> > seems to be a problem since they only distribute binary. I installed
>> >> > the
>> >> > CLUTO binary for win32. It ran, however, the clustestopping test
>> >> > failed.
>> >> > This is the only error that I got when running the ALL_TEST.sh, Other
>> >> > than
>> >> > that everything else worked very well. ( I seached the word "error"
>> >> > in
>> >> > the
>> >> > test result )
>> >> >
>> >> >  ----------------------------------------------------
>> >> >  ------------- clusterstopping.pl -------------------
>> >> >  ----------------------------------------------------
>> >> > Test A1 - Testing clusterstopping.pl with default settings.
>> >> > Running clusterstopping.pl --prefix testA1 testA1.vectors
>> >> > STATUS : ERROR Test Results don't Match....
>> >> > When Tested Against testA1.reqd -
>> >> > STATUS : OK File testA1.cr.dat created.
>> >> > STATUS : OK File testA1.pk3 created.
>> >> > STATUS : OK File testA1.pk3.dat created.
>> >> >
>> >> > Do you have any advice on why this test failed? Is it related with
>> >> > the
>> >> > CLUTO?
>> >> >
>> >> > Thank you.
>> >> >
>> >> > Lingzhi
>> >> >
>> >> > PS: The test result is attached to this email.
>> >> >
>> >> > On Sat, Aug 22, 2009 at 1:04 PM, Ted Pedersen <dul...@gm...>
>> >> > wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Hi Lingzhi,
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I have personally only run SenseClusters on Linux or Solaris (Sun
>> >> >> OS).
>> >> >> In general Perl and C are very portable, and that is what the vast
>> >> >> majority of SenseClusters is written in. However, clustering is done
>> >> >> by the Cluto package, which is only distributed in binary form, and
>> >> >> that is only available for Linux, Solaris (Sun OS) and MS Windows.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> http://glaros.dtc.umn.edu/gkhome/cluto/cluto/download
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Given that, my guess is that SenseClusters wouldn't port to MacOS,
>> >> >> but
>> >> >> should (in theory) be portable to CygWin. However, this is just a
>> >> >> guess, so I don't know for sure.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Also, keep in mind our web interface is always available, in the
>> >> >> event
>> >> >> you aren't able to install on your own system.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> http://marimba.d.umn.edu/cgi-bin/SC-cgi/index.cgi
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I hope this helps. Please let us know as questions arise!
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Cordially,
>> >> >> Ted
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On Sat, Aug 22, 2009 at 11:46 AM, Lingzhi Zhang<lz...@gm...>
>> >> >> wrote:
>> >> >> > Hi,
>> >> >> > Can sensecluseter run under Cygwin or Mac OS? Did anybody try it
>> >> >> > successfully? Or it is only tested and run under linux system.
>> >> >> > Thanks.
>> >> >> > Lingzhi
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> >> >> > Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports
>> >> >> > 2008
>> >> >> > 30-Day
>> >> >> > trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment -
>> >> >> > and
>> >> >> > focus
>> >> >> > on
>> >> >> > what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new
>> >> >> > with
>> >> >> > Crystal Reports now.  http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july
>> >> >> > _______________________________________________
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>> >> >> > sen...@li...
>> >> >> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/senseclusters-users
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> --
>> >> >> Ted Pedersen
>> >> >> http://www.d.umn.edu/~tpederse
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
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>> >>
>> >>
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>> >>
>> >>
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Re: [Senseclusters-users] install sensecluster in Cywgin or Mac OS

[Lingzhi Z. <lz...@gm...>]

Hi, Ted,

Thanks for your advice. The vcluster is in the path. The problem is that I
can execute under the bash shell, and csh shell. However, when I change to
sh, it does't work.

-bash-3.2$ ls
libcluto.a  scluster    vcluster
-bash-3.2$ ./vcluster
-bash: ./vcluster: Invalid argument
-bash-3.2$ sh
$ vcluster
./vcluster: cannot execute
$

It seems that vcluster doesn't work under "sh", which looks also what shell
is used in the clutostopping.pl

Running clusterstopping.pl --prefix testA1 testA1.vectors
sh: vcluster: cannot execute

Here is the outup when I run:

SunOS dab442ca.joyent.us 5.11 snv_89 i86pc i386 i86pc

I will put those not on the workaround that we made.

Thank you.

Lingzhi

On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 2:36 AM, Ted Pedersen <dul...@gm...> wrote:

> Hi Lingzhi,
>
> Cluto comes as a binary distribution only, so you have to make sure
> you get the right version for your hardware. If you used the intstall
> script that comes with SenseClusters (install.sh), you *might* be
> getting the wrong version, since it doesn't actually check to make
> sure it's getting the right one (this is a problem with that script,
> and it should be modified in our next release).
>
> http://glaros.dtc.umn.edu/gkhome/cluto/cluto/download
>
> By default you are getting the Linux i686 version ( cluto-2.1.1.tar.gz
> ), which does also work with SunOS. However, it might be that you need
> the other version (for reasons that I'm not entirely clear about,
> since both are said to work with SunOS)...
>
> http://glaros.dtc.umn.edu/gkhome/fetch/sw/cluto/cluto-2.1.2a.tar.gz
>
> This is a little bit of a guess, to be honest, but it's the first
> thing to check, assuming that your paths are ok. Try and run
>
> which vcluster
>
> If you get back the name of some path where vcluster resides, then
> it's not a path problem.
>
> If you still have problems after trying the other version, please send
> me the output of the following:
>
> which vcluster
> uname -a
> echo $PATH
>
> Also, some description of the other problems you had and how you
> worked around them might be helpful.
>
> I hope this helps, please let us know how things go!
>
> Cordially,
> Ted
>
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 2:25 AM, Lingzhi Zhang<lz...@gm...> wrote:
> > Hi, Ted,
> > We signed up hosting, so we tried installing Senseclusters into server.
> It
> > is a solaris machine. There were some issues during installation,
> however,
> > we found work-around. When we run the test, everything else is OK but
> still
> > one error. The installation of CLUTO seems OK. However, it seems that
> > vcluster can't be execute under sh. But it is OK under bash or csh. Do
> you
> > have a hint on how to work this around.
> > Lingzhi
> > ----------------------------------------------------
> >  ------------- clusterstopping.pl -------------------
> >  ----------------------------------------------------
> > Test A1 - Testing clusterstopping.pl with default settings.
> > Running clusterstopping.pl --prefix testA1 testA1.vectors
> > sh: vcluster: cannot execute
> > Error while running vcluster --clmethod rb --crfun i2 --sim cos
> --rowmodel
> > none --colmodel none --nooutput  testA1.vectors 1
> > STATUS : ERROR Test Results don't Match....
> > When Tested Against testA1.reqd -
> > 0a1
> >> 7
> > STATUS : OK File testA1.cr.dat created.
> > STATUS : OK File testA1.pk3 created.
> > STATUS : ERROR File testA1.pk3.dat NOT created.
> >
> > On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 6:23 AM, Ted Pedersen <dul...@gm...>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi Lingzhi,
> >>
> >> Thanks for the detailed report, that's really very helpful.
> >>
> >> It looks to me like everything is working pretty well, and I wouldn't
> >> be overly concerned about this particular error. In general there are
> >> some places in cluster stopping where the algorithm essentially makes
> >> a random choice, and there is some possibility of different platforms
> >> giving different results due to how random numbers are generated. If
> >> everything else seems to be working ok (which it does, as far as I can
> >> tell) then I think you can proceed without any concern.
> >>
> >> You may, however, want to run a case or two from your data through the
> >> web interface, just to make sure you are getting approximately the
> >> same results for your installation.
> >>
> >> Please let us know if there are any further questions or anomalies.
> >>
> >> Good luck!
> >> Ted
> >>
> >> On Sun, Aug 23, 2009 at 8:03 PM, Lingzhi Zhang<lz...@gm...>
> wrote:
> >> > Thanks Ted.
> >> >
> >> > I tried installation to Cygwin. The problem during the installation
> that
> >> > I
> >> > had was when installing the PDL. But after running the rebase, i
> >> > successfully installed the PDL; the SenseCluster was installed
> >> > successfully
> >> > afterwards. ( I used the manual installation. )
> >> >
> >> > SVDPACKC was installed and run without problem. As you advised, the
> >> > CLUTO
> >> > seems to be a problem since they only distribute binary. I installed
> the
> >> > CLUTO binary for win32. It ran, however, the clustestopping test
> failed.
> >> > This is the only error that I got when running the ALL_TEST.sh, Other
> >> > than
> >> > that everything else worked very well. ( I seached the word "error" in
> >> > the
> >> > test result )
> >> >
> >> >  ----------------------------------------------------
> >> >  ------------- clusterstopping.pl -------------------
> >> >  ----------------------------------------------------
> >> > Test A1 - Testing clusterstopping.pl with default settings.
> >> > Running clusterstopping.pl --prefix testA1 testA1.vectors
> >> > STATUS : ERROR Test Results don't Match....
> >> > When Tested Against testA1.reqd -
> >> > STATUS : OK File testA1.cr.dat created.
> >> > STATUS : OK File testA1.pk3 created.
> >> > STATUS : OK File testA1.pk3.dat created.
> >> >
> >> > Do you have any advice on why this test failed? Is it related with the
> >> > CLUTO?
> >> >
> >> > Thank you.
> >> >
> >> > Lingzhi
> >> >
> >> > PS: The test result is attached to this email.
> >> >
> >> > On Sat, Aug 22, 2009 at 1:04 PM, Ted Pedersen <dul...@gm...>
> >> > wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> Hi Lingzhi,
> >> >>
> >> >> I have personally only run SenseClusters on Linux or Solaris (Sun
> OS).
> >> >> In general Perl and C are very portable, and that is what the vast
> >> >> majority of SenseClusters is written in. However, clustering is done
> >> >> by the Cluto package, which is only distributed in binary form, and
> >> >> that is only available for Linux, Solaris (Sun OS) and MS Windows.
> >> >>
> >> >> http://glaros.dtc.umn.edu/gkhome/cluto/cluto/download
> >> >>
> >> >> Given that, my guess is that SenseClusters wouldn't port to MacOS,
> but
> >> >> should (in theory) be portable to CygWin. However, this is just a
> >> >> guess, so I don't know for sure.
> >> >>
> >> >> Also, keep in mind our web interface is always available, in the
> event
> >> >> you aren't able to install on your own system.
> >> >>
> >> >> http://marimba.d.umn.edu/cgi-bin/SC-cgi/index.cgi
> >> >>
> >> >> I hope this helps. Please let us know as questions arise!
> >> >>
> >> >> Cordially,
> >> >> Ted
> >> >>
> >> >> On Sat, Aug 22, 2009 at 11:46 AM, Lingzhi Zhang<lz...@gm...>
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >> > Hi,
> >> >> > Can sensecluseter run under Cygwin or Mac OS? Did anybody try it
> >> >> > successfully? Or it is only tested and run under linux system.
> >> >> > Thanks.
> >> >> > Lingzhi
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> --
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> >> >> http://www.d.umn.edu/~tpederse <http://www.d.umn.edu/%7Etpederse>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
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Re: [Senseclusters-users] install sensecluster in Cywgin or Mac OS

[Ted P. <dul...@gm...>]

Hi Lingzhi,

Cluto comes as a binary distribution only, so you have to make sure
you get the right version for your hardware. If you used the intstall
script that comes with SenseClusters (install.sh), you *might* be
getting the wrong version, since it doesn't actually check to make
sure it's getting the right one (this is a problem with that script,
and it should be modified in our next release).

http://glaros.dtc.umn.edu/gkhome/cluto/cluto/download

By default you are getting the Linux i686 version ( cluto-2.1.1.tar.gz
), which does also work with SunOS. However, it might be that you need
the other version (for reasons that I'm not entirely clear about,
since both are said to work with SunOS)...

http://glaros.dtc.umn.edu/gkhome/fetch/sw/cluto/cluto-2.1.2a.tar.gz

This is a little bit of a guess, to be honest, but it's the first
thing to check, assuming that your paths are ok. Try and run

which vcluster

If you get back the name of some path where vcluster resides, then
it's not a path problem.

If you still have problems after trying the other version, please send
me the output of the following:

which vcluster
uname -a
echo $PATH

Also, some description of the other problems you had and how you
worked around them might be helpful.

I hope this helps, please let us know how things go!

Cordially,
Ted



On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 2:25 AM, Lingzhi Zhang<lz...@gm...> wrote:
> Hi, Ted,
> We signed up hosting, so we tried installing Senseclusters into server. It
> is a solaris machine. There were some issues during installation, however,
> we found work-around. When we run the test, everything else is OK but still
> one error. The installation of CLUTO seems OK. However, it seems that
> vcluster can't be execute under sh. But it is OK under bash or csh. Do you
> have a hint on how to work this around.
> Lingzhi
> ----------------------------------------------------
>  ------------- clusterstopping.pl -------------------
>  ----------------------------------------------------
> Test A1 - Testing clusterstopping.pl with default settings.
> Running clusterstopping.pl --prefix testA1 testA1.vectors
> sh: vcluster: cannot execute
> Error while running vcluster --clmethod rb --crfun i2 --sim cos --rowmodel
> none --colmodel none --nooutput  testA1.vectors 1
> STATUS : ERROR Test Results don't Match....
> When Tested Against testA1.reqd -
> 0a1
>> 7
> STATUS : OK File testA1.cr.dat created.
> STATUS : OK File testA1.pk3 created.
> STATUS : ERROR File testA1.pk3.dat NOT created.
>
> On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 6:23 AM, Ted Pedersen <dul...@gm...> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Lingzhi,
>>
>> Thanks for the detailed report, that's really very helpful.
>>
>> It looks to me like everything is working pretty well, and I wouldn't
>> be overly concerned about this particular error. In general there are
>> some places in cluster stopping where the algorithm essentially makes
>> a random choice, and there is some possibility of different platforms
>> giving different results due to how random numbers are generated. If
>> everything else seems to be working ok (which it does, as far as I can
>> tell) then I think you can proceed without any concern.
>>
>> You may, however, want to run a case or two from your data through the
>> web interface, just to make sure you are getting approximately the
>> same results for your installation.
>>
>> Please let us know if there are any further questions or anomalies.
>>
>> Good luck!
>> Ted
>>
>> On Sun, Aug 23, 2009 at 8:03 PM, Lingzhi Zhang<lz...@gm...> wrote:
>> > Thanks Ted.
>> >
>> > I tried installation to Cygwin. The problem during the installation that
>> > I
>> > had was when installing the PDL. But after running the rebase, i
>> > successfully installed the PDL; the SenseCluster was installed
>> > successfully
>> > afterwards. ( I used the manual installation. )
>> >
>> > SVDPACKC was installed and run without problem. As you advised, the
>> > CLUTO
>> > seems to be a problem since they only distribute binary. I installed the
>> > CLUTO binary for win32. It ran, however, the clustestopping test failed.
>> > This is the only error that I got when running the ALL_TEST.sh, Other
>> > than
>> > that everything else worked very well. ( I seached the word "error" in
>> > the
>> > test result )
>> >
>> >  ----------------------------------------------------
>> >  ------------- clusterstopping.pl -------------------
>> >  ----------------------------------------------------
>> > Test A1 - Testing clusterstopping.pl with default settings.
>> > Running clusterstopping.pl --prefix testA1 testA1.vectors
>> > STATUS : ERROR Test Results don't Match....
>> > When Tested Against testA1.reqd -
>> > STATUS : OK File testA1.cr.dat created.
>> > STATUS : OK File testA1.pk3 created.
>> > STATUS : OK File testA1.pk3.dat created.
>> >
>> > Do you have any advice on why this test failed? Is it related with the
>> > CLUTO?
>> >
>> > Thank you.
>> >
>> > Lingzhi
>> >
>> > PS: The test result is attached to this email.
>> >
>> > On Sat, Aug 22, 2009 at 1:04 PM, Ted Pedersen <dul...@gm...>
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Hi Lingzhi,
>> >>
>> >> I have personally only run SenseClusters on Linux or Solaris (Sun OS).
>> >> In general Perl and C are very portable, and that is what the vast
>> >> majority of SenseClusters is written in. However, clustering is done
>> >> by the Cluto package, which is only distributed in binary form, and
>> >> that is only available for Linux, Solaris (Sun OS) and MS Windows.
>> >>
>> >> http://glaros.dtc.umn.edu/gkhome/cluto/cluto/download
>> >>
>> >> Given that, my guess is that SenseClusters wouldn't port to MacOS, but
>> >> should (in theory) be portable to CygWin. However, this is just a
>> >> guess, so I don't know for sure.
>> >>
>> >> Also, keep in mind our web interface is always available, in the event
>> >> you aren't able to install on your own system.
>> >>
>> >> http://marimba.d.umn.edu/cgi-bin/SC-cgi/index.cgi
>> >>
>> >> I hope this helps. Please let us know as questions arise!
>> >>
>> >> Cordially,
>> >> Ted
>> >>
>> >> On Sat, Aug 22, 2009 at 11:46 AM, Lingzhi Zhang<lz...@gm...>
>> >> wrote:
>> >> > Hi,
>> >> > Can sensecluseter run under Cygwin or Mac OS? Did anybody try it
>> >> > successfully? Or it is only tested and run under linux system.
>> >> > Thanks.
>> >> > Lingzhi
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> >> > Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008
>> >> > 30-Day
>> >> > trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and
>> >> > focus
>> >> > on
>> >> > what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with
>> >> > Crystal Reports now.  http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july
>> >> > _______________________________________________
>> >> > senseclusters-users mailing list
>> >> > sen...@li...
>> >> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/senseclusters-users
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Ted Pedersen
>> >> http://www.d.umn.edu/~tpederse
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> >> Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008
>> >> 30-Day
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>> >> focus
>> >> on
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>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>>
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>>
>>
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>> 30-Day
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Re: [Senseclusters-users] install sensecluster in Cywgin or Mac OS

[Lingzhi Z. <lz...@gm...>]

Hi, Ted,
We signed up hosting, so we tried installing Senseclusters into server. It
is a solaris machine. There were some issues during installation, however,
we found work-around. When we run the test, everything else is OK but still
one error. The installation of CLUTO seems OK. However, it seems that
vcluster can't be execute under sh. But it is OK under bash or csh. Do you
have a hint on how to work this around.

Lingzhi

----------------------------------------------------
 ------------- clusterstopping.pl -------------------
 ----------------------------------------------------
Test A1 - Testing clusterstopping.pl with default settings.
Running clusterstopping.pl --prefix testA1 testA1.vectors
sh: vcluster: cannot execute
Error while running vcluster --clmethod rb --crfun i2 --sim cos --rowmodel
none --colmodel none --nooutput  testA1.vectors 1
STATUS : ERROR Test Results don't Match....
When Tested Against testA1.reqd -
0a1
> 7
STATUS : OK File testA1.cr.dat created.
STATUS : OK File testA1.pk3 created.
STATUS : ERROR File testA1.pk3.dat NOT created.

On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 6:23 AM, Ted Pedersen <dul...@gm...> wrote:

> Hi Lingzhi,
>
> Thanks for the detailed report, that's really very helpful.
>
> It looks to me like everything is working pretty well, and I wouldn't
> be overly concerned about this particular error. In general there are
> some places in cluster stopping where the algorithm essentially makes
> a random choice, and there is some possibility of different platforms
> giving different results due to how random numbers are generated. If
> everything else seems to be working ok (which it does, as far as I can
> tell) then I think you can proceed without any concern.
>
> You may, however, want to run a case or two from your data through the
> web interface, just to make sure you are getting approximately the
> same results for your installation.
>
> Please let us know if there are any further questions or anomalies.
>
> Good luck!
> Ted
>
> On Sun, Aug 23, 2009 at 8:03 PM, Lingzhi Zhang<lz...@gm...> wrote:
> > Thanks Ted.
> >
> > I tried installation to Cygwin. The problem during the installation that
> I
> > had was when installing the PDL. But after running the rebase, i
> > successfully installed the PDL; the SenseCluster was installed
> successfully
> > afterwards. ( I used the manual installation. )
> >
> > SVDPACKC was installed and run without problem. As you advised, the CLUTO
> > seems to be a problem since they only distribute binary. I installed the
> > CLUTO binary for win32. It ran, however, the clustestopping test failed.
> > This is the only error that I got when running the ALL_TEST.sh, Other
> than
> > that everything else worked very well. ( I seached the word "error" in
> the
> > test result )
> >
> >  ----------------------------------------------------
> >  ------------- clusterstopping.pl -------------------
> >  ----------------------------------------------------
> > Test A1 - Testing clusterstopping.pl with default settings.
> > Running clusterstopping.pl --prefix testA1 testA1.vectors
> > STATUS : ERROR Test Results don't Match....
> > When Tested Against testA1.reqd -
> > STATUS : OK File testA1.cr.dat created.
> > STATUS : OK File testA1.pk3 created.
> > STATUS : OK File testA1.pk3.dat created.
> >
> > Do you have any advice on why this test failed? Is it related with the
> > CLUTO?
> >
> > Thank you.
> >
> > Lingzhi
> >
> > PS: The test result is attached to this email.
> >
> > On Sat, Aug 22, 2009 at 1:04 PM, Ted Pedersen <dul...@gm...>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi Lingzhi,
> >>
> >> I have personally only run SenseClusters on Linux or Solaris (Sun OS).
> >> In general Perl and C are very portable, and that is what the vast
> >> majority of SenseClusters is written in. However, clustering is done
> >> by the Cluto package, which is only distributed in binary form, and
> >> that is only available for Linux, Solaris (Sun OS) and MS Windows.
> >>
> >> http://glaros.dtc.umn.edu/gkhome/cluto/cluto/download
> >>
> >> Given that, my guess is that SenseClusters wouldn't port to MacOS, but
> >> should (in theory) be portable to CygWin. However, this is just a
> >> guess, so I don't know for sure.
> >>
> >> Also, keep in mind our web interface is always available, in the event
> >> you aren't able to install on your own system.
> >>
> >> http://marimba.d.umn.edu/cgi-bin/SC-cgi/index.cgi
> >>
> >> I hope this helps. Please let us know as questions arise!
> >>
> >> Cordially,
> >> Ted
> >>
> >> On Sat, Aug 22, 2009 at 11:46 AM, Lingzhi Zhang<lz...@gm...>
> wrote:
> >> > Hi,
> >> > Can sensecluseter run under Cygwin or Mac OS? Did anybody try it
> >> > successfully? Or it is only tested and run under linux system.
> >> > Thanks.
> >> > Lingzhi
> >> >
> >> >
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Re: [Senseclusters-users] install sensecluster in Cywgin or Mac OS

[Ted P. <dul...@gm...>]

Hi Lingzhi,

Thanks for the detailed report, that's really very helpful.

It looks to me like everything is working pretty well, and I wouldn't
be overly concerned about this particular error. In general there are
some places in cluster stopping where the algorithm essentially makes
a random choice, and there is some possibility of different platforms
giving different results due to how random numbers are generated. If
everything else seems to be working ok (which it does, as far as I can
tell) then I think you can proceed without any concern.

You may, however, want to run a case or two from your data through the
web interface, just to make sure you are getting approximately the
same results for your installation.

Please let us know if there are any further questions or anomalies.

Good luck!
Ted

On Sun, Aug 23, 2009 at 8:03 PM, Lingzhi Zhang<lz...@gm...> wrote:
> Thanks Ted.
>
> I tried installation to Cygwin. The problem during the installation that I
> had was when installing the PDL. But after running the rebase, i
> successfully installed the PDL; the SenseCluster was installed successfully
> afterwards. ( I used the manual installation. )
>
> SVDPACKC was installed and run without problem. As you advised, the CLUTO
> seems to be a problem since they only distribute binary. I installed the
> CLUTO binary for win32. It ran, however, the clustestopping test failed.
> This is the only error that I got when running the ALL_TEST.sh, Other than
> that everything else worked very well. ( I seached the word "error" in the
> test result )
>
>  ----------------------------------------------------
>  ------------- clusterstopping.pl -------------------
>  ----------------------------------------------------
> Test A1 - Testing clusterstopping.pl with default settings.
> Running clusterstopping.pl --prefix testA1 testA1.vectors
> STATUS : ERROR Test Results don't Match....
> When Tested Against testA1.reqd -
> STATUS : OK File testA1.cr.dat created.
> STATUS : OK File testA1.pk3 created.
> STATUS : OK File testA1.pk3.dat created.
>
> Do you have any advice on why this test failed? Is it related with the
> CLUTO?
>
> Thank you.
>
> Lingzhi
>
> PS: The test result is attached to this email.
>
> On Sat, Aug 22, 2009 at 1:04 PM, Ted Pedersen <dul...@gm...> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Lingzhi,
>>
>> I have personally only run SenseClusters on Linux or Solaris (Sun OS).
>> In general Perl and C are very portable, and that is what the vast
>> majority of SenseClusters is written in. However, clustering is done
>> by the Cluto package, which is only distributed in binary form, and
>> that is only available for Linux, Solaris (Sun OS) and MS Windows.
>>
>> http://glaros.dtc.umn.edu/gkhome/cluto/cluto/download
>>
>> Given that, my guess is that SenseClusters wouldn't port to MacOS, but
>> should (in theory) be portable to CygWin. However, this is just a
>> guess, so I don't know for sure.
>>
>> Also, keep in mind our web interface is always available, in the event
>> you aren't able to install on your own system.
>>
>> http://marimba.d.umn.edu/cgi-bin/SC-cgi/index.cgi
>>
>> I hope this helps. Please let us know as questions arise!
>>
>> Cordially,
>> Ted
>>
>> On Sat, Aug 22, 2009 at 11:46 AM, Lingzhi Zhang<lz...@gm...> wrote:
>> > Hi,
>> > Can sensecluseter run under Cygwin or Mac OS? Did anybody try it
>> > successfully? Or it is only tested and run under linux system.
>> > Thanks.
>> > Lingzhi
>> >
>> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> > Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008
>> > 30-Day
>> > trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and
>> > focus
>> > on
>> > what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with
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>> > _______________________________________________
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>> > sen...@li...
>> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/senseclusters-users
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>> --
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>> http://www.d.umn.edu/~tpederse
>>
>>
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Re: [Senseclusters-users] install sensecluster in Cywgin or Mac OS

[Lingzhi Z. <lz...@gm...>]

 ----------------------------------------------------
 ------------- clusterlabeling.pl -------------------
 ----------------------------------------------------
Test A1 - Testing clusterlabeling.pl for a no label cluster.
Running clusterlabeling.pl testA1.clusters_context --prefix testA1 --rank 5 --window 4 --stop stoplist.new --token token.regex --stat ll --remove 2 > testA1.output
STATUS : OK Test Results Match.
STATUS : OK Cluster file testA1.cluster.-1 created.
STATUS : OK Cluster file testA1.cluster.0 created.
STATUS : OK Cluster file testA1.cluster.1 created.
 ----------------------------------------------------
 ------------- clusterstopping.pl -------------------
 ----------------------------------------------------
Test A1 - Testing clusterstopping.pl with default settings.
Running clusterstopping.pl --prefix testA1 testA1.vectors
STATUS : ERROR Test Results don't Match....
When Tested Against testA1.reqd - 
STATUS : OK File testA1.cr.dat created.
STATUS : OK File testA1.pk3 created.
STATUS : OK File testA1.pk3.dat created.
 ----------------------------------------------------
 ---------------- reduce-count.pl -------------------
 ----------------------------------------------------
Test A1 for reduce-count.pl
Running reduce-count.pl test-A1.bi test-A1.uni
Test Ok
Test B1 for reduce-count.pl
Running reduce-count.pl test-B1.bi test-B1.uni
Test Ok
 ----------------------------------------------------
---------------- cluto2label.pl ---------------------
 ----------------------------------------------------
Test A1 Testing cluto2label.pl
Running cluto2label.pl test-A1.cluto test-A1.key
Test A1 OK
 ----------------------------------------------------
 ------------- format_clusters.pl -------------------
 ----------------------------------------------------
Test A1 - Testing format_clusters.pl without any options, i.e. the default output format.
Running format_clusters.pl testA1.clusol testA1.rlabel
STATUS :  OK Test Results Match.
Test B1 - Testing format_clusters.pl with --context and --senseval2 options, both.
Running format_clusters.pl --context testB1.sval2 --senseval2 testB1.sval2 testB1.clusol testB1.rlabel
STATUS :  OK Test Results Match.
 ----------------------------------------------------
 --------------------- label.pl ---------------------
 ----------------------------------------------------
Test A1 - Testing label.pl for condition #Clusters = #Labels
Running label.pl testA1a.prelabel
STATUS :  OK Test Results Match.....

Running label.pl testA1b.prelabel
STATUS :  OK Test Results Match.....

Running label.pl testA1c.prelabel
STATUS :  OK Test Results Match.....

Running label.pl testA1d.prelabel
STATUS :  OK Test Results Match.....

Running label.pl testA1e.prelabel
STATUS :  OK Test Results Match.....

Running label.pl testA1f.prelabel
STATUS :  OK Test Results Match.....

Running label.pl testA1g.prelabel
STATUS :  OK Test Results Match.....

Test B1 - test-B1.prelabel doesn't start with #unclustered instances
Running label.pl test-B1.prelabel
STATUS :  OK Test Results Match.....

 ----------------------------------------------------
 ---------------------- report.pl -------------------
 ----------------------------------------------------
TEST A1
Running report.pl test-A1.map test-A1.matrix 
STATUS : 	OK Test Results Match.....

 ----------------------------------------------------
 ------------------- bitsimat.pl --------------------
 ----------------------------------------------------
Test A1a for bitsimat.pl
Running bitsimat.pl --dense --format f8.3 test-A1a1.vec
Test Ok
Running bitsimat.pl --format f8.3 test-A1a2.vec
Test Ok
Test A1b for bitsimat.pl
Running bitsimat.pl --dense --format f8.3 test-A1b1.vec
Test Ok
Running bitsimat.pl --format f8.3 test-A1b2.vec
Test Ok
Test A1c for bitsimat.pl
Running bitsimat.pl --dense --format f8.3 test-A1c1.vec
Test Ok
Running bitsimat.pl --format f8.3 test-A1c2.vec
Test Ok
Test B1a for bitsimat.pl
Running bitsimat.pl --dense --measure cosine --format f8.4 test-B1a.vec
Test Ok
Test B1b for bitsimat.pl
Running bitsimat.pl --dense --measure cosine --format f8.4 test-B1b.vec
Test Ok
Running bitsimat.pl --measure cosine --format f8.4 test-B1c.vec
Test Ok
 ----------------------------------------------------
 ------------------ simat.pl ------------------------
 ----------------------------------------------------
Test A1 for simat.pl
Running simat.pl --dense --format f7.3 test-A1.vec
Test Ok
Test B1 for simat.pl
Running simat.pl --dense --format f7.3 test-B1a.vec
Test Ok
Running simat.pl --format f7.3 test-B1b.vec
Test Ok
 ----------------------------------------------------
 ------------------ mat2harbo.pl --------------------
 ----------------------------------------------------
Test A1 for mat2harbo.pl
Running mat2harbo.pl --numform 20i4 test-A1.mat
Test Ok
Test B1 for mat2harbo.pl
Running mat2harbo.pl --cpform 10f8.3 test-B1.mat
Test Ok
Running mat2harbo.pl --rpform 10f8 test-B1.mat
Test Ok
Running mat2harbo.pl --numform 10i8.3 test-B1.mat
Test Ok
 ----------------------------------------------------
 ------------------ svdpackout.pl -------------------
 ----------------------------------------------------
note that some variation in SVD output is expected
due to differences in architectures and precision
Test A1a for svdpackout.pl
Running las2
Running svdpackout.pl --format i4 lav2 lao2 > test-A1a.output
Test Ok
Test A1b for svdpackout.pl
Running las2
Running svdpackout.pl lav2 lao2 > test-A1b.output
Test Ok
Test A1c for svdpackout.pl
Running las2
Running svdpackout.pl --format i5 lav2 lao2 > test-A1c.output
Test Ok
Test A1d for svdpackout.pl
Running las2
Running svdpackout.pl lav2 lao2 > test-A1d.output
Test Ok
Test A1e for svdpackout.pl
Running las2
Running svdpackout.pl --format i4 lav2 lao2 > test-A1e.output
Test Ok
Test A1f for svdpackout.pl
Running las2
Running svdpackout.pl lav2 lao2 > test-A1f.output
Test Ok
Test A1g for svdpackout.pl
Running las2
Running svdpackout.pl --format i5 lav2 lao2 > test-A1g.output
Test Ok
Test A1h for svdpackout.pl
Running las2
Running svdpackout.pl lav2 lao2 > test-A1h.output
Test Ok
Test B1 for svdpackout.pl
Running svdpackout.pl test-B1.lav2 test-B1.lao2
Test Ok
 ----------------------------------------------------
 ---------------- order1vec.pl ----------------------
 ----------------------------------------------------
Test A1 for order1vec.pl
Running order1vec.pl --dense --binary test-A1.sval2 test-A1.regex
Test Ok
Running order1vec.pl --binary test-A1.sval2 test-A1.regex
Test Ok
 ----------------------------------------------------
 ---------------- order2vec.pl ----------------------
 ----------------------------------------------------
Test A1 for order2vec.pl
Running order2vec.pl --dense --format f6.3 test-A1.sval2 test-A11.wordvec test-A1.regex
Test Ok
Running order2vec.pl --format f6.3 test-A1.sval2 test-A12.wordvec test-A1.regex
Test Ok
Test B1 for order2vec.pl
Running order2vec.pl --dense test-B1.sval2 test-B1.wordvec test-B1.regex
Test Ok
 ----------------------------------------------------
 ----------------- wordvec.pl -----------------------
 ----------------------------------------------------
Test A1 for wordvec.pl
Running wordvec.pl --dense --format i2 --feats test-A1a.feats --dims test-A1a.dims test-A1.bi
Test Ok
Running wordvec.pl --format i2 --feats test-A1a.feats --dims test-A1a.dims test-A1.bi
Test Ok
Running wordvec.pl --dense --format i2 --wordorder precede --feats test-A1b.feats --dims test-A1b.dims test-A1.bi
Test Ok
Running wordvec.pl --format i2 --wordorder precede --feats test-A1b.feats --dims test-A1b.dims test-A1.bi
Test Ok
Running wordvec.pl --dense --format i2 --wordorder nocare --feats test-A1c.feats --dims test-A1c.dims test-A1.bi
Test Ok
Running wordvec.pl --format i2 --wordorder nocare --feats test-A1c.feats --dims test-A1c.dims test-A1.bi
Test Ok
 ----------------------------------------------------
 ----------------- text2sval.pl ---------------------
 ----------------------------------------------------
Test A1 for text2sval.pl
Running text2sval.pl --key test-A1.key --lexelt line-n test-A1.text
Test Ok
Test B1 for text2sval.pl
Running text2sval.pl --key test-B1.key --lexelt line-n test-B1.text
Test Ok
 ----------------------------------------------------
 ------------------- balance.pl ---------------------
 ----------------------------------------------------
Test 1 for balance.pl
Running balance.pl test-A1.xml 1
Test Ok
 ----------------------------------------------------
 ------------------ filter.pl ------------------------
 ----------------------------------------------------
UNIT Test A1 -
		For Sense Filter Program filter.pl
Data - 		Source file from test-A1.data
Frequency Report - 
		test-A1.report
Output - 	Filtered Data file from test-A1.reqd
Test -    	Checks filter.pl's --rank R filter to select
		Top R most frequent senses.
STATUS : 	OK Test Results Match.....

UNIT Test B1 -
		For Sense Filter Program filter.pl
Data- 		Source File test-B1.data
Report -	Frequency Report file test-B1.report
Output - 	Error message in file test-B1.reqd
		Checks the error condition in filter.pl when
		both --percent and --rank are selected.
STATUS : 	OK Test Results Match.....

 ----------------------------------------------------
 ------------------ frequency.pl --------------------
 ----------------------------------------------------
Test A1 - Testing frequency.pl when Source has balanced distribution.
Running frequency.pl test-A1.source
Test A1 OK
 ----------------------------------------------------
 ---------------- keyconvert.pl ---------------------
 ----------------------------------------------------
UNIT Test A1 -
		For Key Convertor keyconvert.pl
Input - 	Senseval2 Key file from test-A1.keyin
Output - 	Equivalent SenseClusters Key file from test-A1.keyout
Test -    	Tests program keyconvert.pl on sample keyfiles
STATUS : 	OK Test Results Match.....

 ----------------------------------------------------
 ---------------- maketarget.pl ---------------------
 ----------------------------------------------------
Test A1 for maketarget.pl
Running maketarget.pl --head test-A1.sval2
Test Ok
Test A1a for maketarget.pl
Running maketarget.pl test-A1.sval2
Test Ok
Test B1 for maketarget.pl
Running maketarget.pl test-B1.sval2
Test Ok
Test B1a for maketarget.pl
Running maketarget.pl --head test-B1.sval2
Test Ok
 ----------------------------------------------------
 --------------- prepare_sval2.pl -------------------
 ----------------------------------------------------
Test A1 - Testing if P tags are getting removed.
Running prepare_sval2.pl test-A1.data
Test A1 OK
Test B1 - Testing an error condition when some instances are attached tags
in untagged data
Running prepare_sval2.pl test-B1.data
Test B1 OK
 ----------------------------------------------------
 ----------------- sval2plain.pl --------------------
 ----------------------------------------------------
Test A1 for sval2plain.pl
Running sval2plain.pl test-A1.sval2
Test Ok
Test B1 for sval2plain.pl
Running sval2plain.pl test-B1.sval2
Test Ok
 ----------------------------------------------------
 ----------------- windower.pl ----------------------
 ----------------------------------------------------
Test A1 for windower.pl
Running windower.pl test-A1.input 5
Test Ok
Test B1 for windower.pl
Running windower.pl test-B1.input 5
Test Ok
 ----------------------------------------------------
 ----------------- nsp2regex.pl ---------------------
 ----------------------------------------------------
Subtest 1 : 
Testing nsp2regex thusly: nsp2regex.pl sub-1.source > out
Test OK
Testing nsp2regex thusly: nsp2regex.pl sub-1.source --token token.txt > out
Test OK
Subtest 2 : 
Testing nsp2regex thusly: nsp2regex.pl sub-2.source > out
Test OK
Testing nsp2regex thusly: nsp2regex.pl sub-2.source --token token.txt > out
Test OK
Subtest 3 : 
Testing nsp2regex thusly: nsp2regex.pl sub-3.source > out
Test OK
Testing nsp2regex thusly: nsp2regex.pl sub-3.source --token token.txt > out
Test OK
Subtest 4 : 
Testing nsp2regex thusly: nsp2regex.pl sub-4.source > out
Test OK
Testing nsp2regex thusly: nsp2regex.pl sub-4.source --token token.txt > out
Test OK
Subtest 5 : 
Testing nsp2regex thusly: nsp2regex.pl sub-5.source > out
Test OK
Testing nsp2regex thusly: nsp2regex.pl sub-5.source --token token.txt > out
Test OK
Subtest 6 : 
Testing nsp2regex thusly: nsp2regex.pl sub-6.source > out
Test OK
Testing nsp2regex thusly: nsp2regex.pl sub-6.source --token token.txt > out
Test OK
Subtest 7 : 
Testing nsp2regex thusly: nsp2regex.pl sub-7.source > out
Test OK
Testing nsp2regex thusly: nsp2regex.pl sub-7.source --token token.txt > out
Test OK
 ----------------------------------------------------
 ----------------- preprocess.pl --------------------
 ----------------------------------------------------
Subtest 1: Testing without options.
Testing preprocess thusly: preprocess.pl test-1.xml
Test OK
Test OK
Test OK
Test OK
Test OK
Test OK
Subtest 2: Testing preprocess.pl with a token file
Testing preprocess thusly: preprocess.pl test-1.xml --token test-1.sub-2.token.txt
Test OK
Test OK
Test OK
Test OK
Test OK
Test OK
Subtest 3: Testing preprocess.pl with --useLexelt option
Testing preprocess thusly: preprocess.pl test-1.xml --useLexelt --token test-1.sub-3.token.txt
Test OK
Test OK
Test OK
Test OK
Test OK
Test OK
Subtest 4: Testing preprocess.pl with --useSenseid option
Testing preprocess thusly: preprocess.pl test-1.xml --useSenseid --token test-1.sub-3.token.txt
Test OK
Test OK
Test OK
Test OK
Test OK
Test OK
Subtest 5: Testing preprocess.pl with a token file and --removeNotToken
Testing preprocess thusly: preprocess.pl test-1.xml --token test-1.sub-2.token.txt --removeNotToken
Test OK
Test OK
Test OK
Test OK
Test OK
Test OK

Re: [Senseclusters-users] install sensecluster in Cywgin or Mac OS

[Ted P. <dul...@gm...>]

Hi Lingzhi,

I have personally only run SenseClusters on Linux or Solaris (Sun OS).
In general Perl and C are very portable, and that is what the vast
majority of SenseClusters is written in. However, clustering is done
by the Cluto package, which is only distributed in binary form, and
that is only available for Linux, Solaris (Sun OS) and MS Windows.

http://glaros.dtc.umn.edu/gkhome/cluto/cluto/download

Given that, my guess is that SenseClusters wouldn't port to MacOS, but
should (in theory) be portable to CygWin. However, this is just a
guess, so I don't know for sure.

Also, keep in mind our web interface is always available, in the event
you aren't able to install on your own system.

http://marimba.d.umn.edu/cgi-bin/SC-cgi/index.cgi

I hope this helps. Please let us know as questions arise!

Cordially,
Ted

On Sat, Aug 22, 2009 at 11:46 AM, Lingzhi Zhang<lz...@gm...> wrote:
> Hi,
> Can sensecluseter run under Cygwin or Mac OS? Did anybody try it
> successfully? Or it is only tested and run under linux system.
> Thanks.
> Lingzhi
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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[Senseclusters-users] install sensecluster in Cywgin or Mac OS

[Lingzhi Z. <lz...@gm...>]

Hi,
Can sensecluseter run under Cygwin or Mac OS? Did anybody try it
successfully? Or it is only tested and run under linux system.

Thanks.

Lingzhi

Re: [Senseclusters-users] Getting error by running sample scripts

[Ted P. <dul...@gm...>]

Hi Ramesh,

I think there are probably two issues here...one is I'm not sure if
everything installed properly, the other is your path settings. Can
you post the output to the following commands

which preprocess.pl

which frequency.pl

which filter.pl

which prepare_sval2.pl

echo $PATH

I suspect that your path might not include the current directory,
which is why setdirs.sh isn't being found. If that is the case, you
have two options with that - one is to set the path in your .cshrc
file to include the current directory ( represented by . ) by adding
the following to ~/.cshrc (after any other references to path that
might be there) :

set path = ( $path . )

Or you can edit setup.pl (in the samples directory) so that the following :

# --------------------------------------
# Setting up directories for experiment
# --------------------------------------
system("setdirs.sh");

is changed to:

# --------------------------------------
# Setting up directories for experiment
# --------------------------------------
system("./setdirs.sh");

Please note that this will not fix the entire makedata.sh script, only
one part of it. The missing *.pl files might be the result of some
glitch in your installation, so we might need to look further at that.
But, one step at a time. :)

Cordially,
Ted


On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 2:32 AM, Ramesh
Puripanda<ram...@ca...> wrote:
> Hi Everyone,
>
>
>
> I am trying to use senseclusters on one of my project and I have installed
> SenseClusters on Linux box and when I am trying to run some sample scripts
> which are provided by the package I am getting the below error. I am very
> new to the Linux environment.
>
>
>
> Command I am executing:           csh ./makedata.sh
>
>  csh ./sc-toolkit.sh
>
>  mv LexSample LexSample-SC
>
>
>
> Error:
>
>
>
> [root@localhost samples]# csh ./makedata.sh
>
> gunzip: No match.
>
> DATA: eng-lex-sample.evaluation.xml
>
> --training=eng-lex-sample.training.xml
>
> --token=Regexs/token.regex
>
> --nontoken=Regexs/nontoken.regex
>
> --key=Data/eng-lex-sample.key
>
> --showargs=ON
>
> Preprocessing eng-lex-sample.evaluation.xml ...
>
> sh: prepare_sval2.pl: command not found
>
> sh: prepare_sval2.pl: command not found
>
> Can't exec "preprocess.pl": No such file or directory at setup.pl line 440.
>
> mv: cannot stat `*.count': No such file or directory
>
> mv: cannot stat `*.xml': No such file or directory
>
> Can't exec "preprocess.pl": No such file or directory at setup.pl line 475.
>
> mv: cannot stat `*.count': No such file or directory
>
> mv: cannot stat `*.xml': No such file or directory
>
> Preprocessing complete ...
>
> Creating LexSample...
>
> Can't exec "setdirs.sh": No such file or directory at setup.pl line 516.
>
> Created LexSample Directory !!!
>
> We are now ready to start experiments!
>
> Run sc-toolkit.sh, target-wrapper.sh, or word-wrapper.sh
>
> Remember to rename the LexSample file after each experiment
>
> and run makedata.sh again.
>
> frequency.pl: Command not found.
>
> filter.pl: Command not found.
>
> frequency.pl: Command not found.
>
> filter.pl: Command not found.
>
>
>
> Please help me to run the above script.
>
>
>
> Thanks & Regards,
>
> Ramesh.
>
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[Senseclusters-users] Getting error by running sample scripts

[Ramesh P. <ram...@ca...>]

Hi Everyone,

 

I am trying to use senseclusters on one of my project and I have installed
SenseClusters on Linux box and when I am trying to run some sample scripts
which are provided by the package I am getting the below error. I am very
new to the Linux environment.

 

Command I am executing:           csh ./makedata.sh

 csh ./sc-toolkit.sh

 mv LexSample LexSample-SC

 

Error:     

 

[root@localhost samples]# csh ./makedata.sh

gunzip: No match.

DATA: eng-lex-sample.evaluation.xml

--training=eng-lex-sample.training.xml

--token=Regexs/token.regex

--nontoken=Regexs/nontoken.regex

--key=Data/eng-lex-sample.key

--showargs=ON

Preprocessing eng-lex-sample.evaluation.xml ...

sh: prepare_sval2.pl: command not found

sh: prepare_sval2.pl: command not found

Can't exec "preprocess.pl": No such file or directory at setup.pl line 440.

mv: cannot stat `*.count': No such file or directory

mv: cannot stat `*.xml': No such file or directory

Can't exec "preprocess.pl": No such file or directory at setup.pl line 475.

mv: cannot stat `*.count': No such file or directory

mv: cannot stat `*.xml': No such file or directory

Preprocessing complete ...

Creating LexSample...

Can't exec "setdirs.sh": No such file or directory at setup.pl line 516.

Created LexSample Directory !!!

We are now ready to start experiments!

Run sc-toolkit.sh, target-wrapper.sh, or word-wrapper.sh

Remember to rename the LexSample file after each experiment

and run makedata.sh again.

frequency.pl: Command not found.

filter.pl: Command not found.

frequency.pl: Command not found.

filter.pl: Command not found.

 

Please help me to run the above script.

 

Thanks & Regards,

Ramesh.

[Senseclusters-users] SenseClusters web interface available on two servers

[Ted P. <dul...@gm...>]

Greetings all,

We've gotten back our main server, and so SenseClusters is now available at :

http://marimba.d.umn.edu/cgi-bin/SC-cgi/index.cgi

In addition, it will remain at the backup site until further notice :

http://talisker.d.umn.edu/cgi-bin/SC-cgi/index.cgi

All things being equal you should use marimba (it's a faster machine)
but for smaller files you probably won't notice much difference
between the two. They are running the exact same version of
SenseClusters (v 1.01)

Please let us know if you have any questions or concerns.

Enjoy!
Ted

-- 
Ted Pedersen
http://www.d.umn.edu/~tpederse