From: Daniel F. <li...@da...> - 2009-08-13 17:35:18
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Ya, that's why you're not allowed to release it under the GFDL. What you'd be doing is called copyright infringement. ~Daniel Friesen (Dantman, Nadir-Seen-Fire) [http://daniel.friesen.name] Yaron Koren wrote: > Are you sure about that? What if I were to make an exact copy of the > document, only changing each page to a light green background, then > re-published it under GFDL - surely I wouldn't hold the copyright to > that work, would I? > > -Yaron > > > On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 12:58 PM, Daniel Friesen > <li...@da... > <mailto:li...@da...>> wrote: > > Copyright is necessary. Every open-source project released under a > FOSS > is copyrighted to someone. > A License doesn't do anything at all on it's own, it's nothing but a > document. Using a license means you're stating "I have the > copyright to > this, but you can do this with it" and the license is what defines > what > can be done with it. Copyright is what allows the rights that the > license gives to be exercised. > > ~Daniel Friesen (Dantman, Nadir-Seen-Fire) > [http://daniel.friesen.name] > > Yaron Koren wrote: > > Alright, cool. I still think that "copyright" line doesn't > belong; see > > here: > > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright > > > > From the first line: "Copyright gives the author of an original work > > exclusive right for a certain time period in relation to that work, > > including its publication, distribution and adaptation" - that > clearly > > isn't the case here. > > > > -Yaron > > > > > > On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 4:36 AM, Wloka > > <wl...@on... > <mailto:wl...@on...> > > <mailto:wl...@on... > <mailto:wl...@on...>>> wrote: > > > > Hi Yaron, > > > > > > > > I’ve updated the SMW manual so far. The licence was not changed, > > the manual is dual-licensed with GFDL and still CC-By. I > apologize > > for missing authors, but it’s impossible to note all > contributors > > having worked on this huge documentation. As you proposed, I’ve > > added “et al.” to the authors list. > > > > > > > > @all: You can download now the updated manual from SMW+ User > Forum > > > http://smwforum.ontoprise.com/smwforum/images/2/2f/Manual_SMW_143.pdf > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > Dominika > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > *Von:* Yaron Koren > [mailto:ya...@gm... > <mailto:ya...@gm...> > > <mailto:ya...@gm... > <mailto:ya...@gm...>>] > > *Gesendet:* Mittwoch, 12. August 2009 00:38 > > *An:* Wloka > > *Cc:* > sem...@li... > <mailto:sem...@li...> > > > <mailto:sem...@li... > <mailto:sem...@li...>> > > *Betreff:* Re: [Semediawiki-user] Complete user manual for > > Semantic MediaWiki 1.4.3 as PDF > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > It's great that you put this together; it should be quite > helpful. > > A few thoughts, though: > > > > - By "SMW User group", do you mean "SMW+ User Forum"? Or is it > > both now? > > - The first page of the manual states "Copyright © 2009 > Ontoprise > > GmbH", but it also says that the manual is available under GFDL. > > Are those not mutually contradictory? I'm not a > copyright/license > > expert, so I could be wrong. > > - Similarly, the manual gets all, or nearly all, of its content > > from semantic-mediawiki.org <http://semantic-mediawiki.org> > <http://semantic-mediawiki.org>, whose > > content is distributed via CC-By. Are you allowed to just change > > the license to GFDL? > > - The authors are listed as "Dominika Wloka, Markus Krötzsch, > > Denny Vrandecic", although there have been other authors of the > > content from semantic-mediawiki.org > <http://semantic-mediawiki.org> > > <http://semantic-mediawiki.org>; I contributed a good > amount, for > > one thing. At the very least, the authors list should contain > > something like "et al.", to note the other contributors; perhaps > > it should also list more people. > > - It's also odd that you, Dominika, are listed as the sole > author > > of the SMW+ Forum's SMW documentation, since a good amount > of that > > is copied from semantic-mediawiki.org > <http://semantic-mediawiki.org> > > <http://semantic-mediawiki.org> as well. > > > > -Yaron > > > > On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 11:23 AM, Wloka > > <wl...@on... > <mailto:wl...@on...> > > <mailto:wl...@on... > <mailto:wl...@on...>>> wrote: > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > > > I have created a PDF of the user manual for the latest SMW > release > > 1.4.3. 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