I ended up hacking the SMWParseData::storeData method in addition to my extension in order to get it to work in both situations.

The extension updates semantic annotations for authors of a page when a new page is saved.
The hack of 'storeData' takes care of refresh Jobs.

It looks like this is how 'Modified date' is set already (once in onNewRevisionFromEditComplete and once in storeData).

I guess I will have to wait for a future mechanism for custom special properties in order to do that cleanly.

- Laurent

On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 6:42 AM, Laurent Alquier <laurent@alquier.org> wrote:
Thanks for the reply.

I still can't believe there isn't a more straightforward way to do this.

Special properties such as Category and Last modified date are also not included in the page and yet, they manage to be updated on refresh and during jobs.

The approach I am taking is to use a special tag to trigger the update of my special properties.

I can get it to work when the tag is declared directly in the page, but I am running into issues when I have that tag inside a template (which is necessary in order to avoid having to manually add the tag everywhere I want to have the properties calculated.

I will keep looking and let you know if I find a simpler way.

- Laurent

On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 5:45 AM, zehetner <zehetner@molgen.mpg.de> wrote:
I used initially also the addProperty/storeData method and run into the
same problem. But SMW updates its store and as no property declarations are
on the page the stored properties get lost during the update.
I therefore switched to using the SMWWriter extension to store property
values retrieved by my parser function from an external DB 'permanently' on
a 'cache sub-page' of the actual page (which always includes this subpage).
If the cache has expired the values are fetched again from the external DB
and SMWWriter updates the #set statements on the 'cache sub-page'.

Only during the initial creation of the pages (via a script) I initially
store the properties via the
SMWParseData::addProperty and SMWParseData::storeData method in order to
have the property values immediatly available for statistical SMW queries.
The page itself contains a call to the parser function (which retrieves the
external data) and the also created 'cache subpage' is left empty. (Note as
the page also contains some Category declarations I have also to manually
update the SMW tables to store the category information as otherwise MW
knows about them but not SMW and #ask queries don't work as expected).

When the page is actually shown in the wiki the parser function checks the
content of the 'cache-subpage' and if it's empty (or the cache time is
expired) it fetches the data again from the external DB and now uses
SMWWriter to write/update the #set statements on the 'cache sub-page' which
keeps the properties 'permanently' stored. This procedure seems to work so
far quite well.


On Tue, 21 Dec 2010 18:08:19 -0500, Laurent Alquier <laurent@alquier.org>
> I have been playing with ideas from this thread to do the same thing -
> predefined properties from an extension.
> I came down to this basic code to add user defined properties (based on
> predefined string $propertyName and a calculated value from my extension
> $value)
>         $property = SMWPropertyValue::makeUserProperty( $propertyName );
>         $dv = SMWDataValueFactory::newPropertyObjectValue( $property,
>         $value
> );
>         SMWParseData::getSMWData( $parser )->addPropertyObjectValue(
> $property, $dv );
> I am also using the 'ParserAfterTidy' hook since it seems more
> to my extension is doing (add semantic annotations for authors of a
> At this point, my problem is this :
> 1- If I use this code as-is, no value seems to be saved for this page
> 2- If I use SMWParseData::storeData as indicated above, I lose some
> properties since storeData assumes parsing has been done when it is
> 3- If I use a direct access to the store by replacing :
> SMWParseData::getSMWData( $parser ) by :
> smwfGetStore()->getSemanticData($wgTitle) , values are saved but they
> wiped out at the next refresh job.
> My question (and I assume, the original question as well) :
> How do I go from this user property code to saved values that will
> after a refresh ?
> Based on Markus recommendation, I did check the custom properties added
> SME_ParseData and it seems that nothing more is needed than what I have
> above.
> Any insight ? code sample ? nudge in any direction ? :)
> - Laurent
> On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 4:51 AM, Harwarth, Stefan (Bundeswehr) <
> Stefan.Harwarth@cassidian.com> wrote:
>> Using SMWParseData::storeData at the end of my parserhook solves the
>> problem with the data that I generate, but now any other semantic data
>> contained in the rest of the article is discarded... I guess it's
>> because of what the documentation for storeData says, that the parsing
>> is assumed to be complete.
>> So this is not the fix for my problem :(
>> Stefan
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: zehetner [mailto:zehetner@molgen.mpg.de]
>> > Sent: Monday, November 01, 2010 10:24 AM
>> > To: Harwarth, Stefan (Bundeswehr)
>> > Cc: semediawiki-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
>> > Subject: Re: [SMW-devel] Problem with storing semantic
>> > attributes in a parserhook
>> >
>> > I use
>> >    SMWParseData::addProperty( $property, $prop_val, false,
>> > $wgParser, true );
>> >    SMWParseData::storeData( $wgParser->getOutput(), $title,
>> > false ); which seems to work so far ok to store properties
>> > generated within an extension (although it might not be the
>> > correct or official way to do it) $property is a string with
>> > the property name, $prop_value the value of the property (in
>> > case of multi-valued properties a string like e.g.
>> > 'p1;p2;;p3') and $title a title object.
>> >
>> > Cheers,
>> > Gu
>> >
>> > On Fri, 29 Oct 2010 16:21:03 +0200, "Harwarth, Stefan (Bundeswehr)"
>> > <Stefan.Harwarth@cassidian.com> wrote:
>> > > Hi,
>> > >
>> > > I'm working on an Mediawiki extension that uses the
>> > > SMWData::addProperty function to store semantic data inside
>> > a parser
>> > > hook function, which is working perfectly when saving a
>> > page. But when
>> > > I use the ApprovedRevs extension to approve the revision of an
>> > > article, my semantic data isn't stored, even though the call to
>> > > addProperty is executed and a valid DataValue object is returned.
>> > >
>> > > For debugging reasons I added regular semantic markup, so
>> > that my page
>> > > looks like the following:
>> > > [[Property1::Value1]]
>> > > {{#set:Property2=Value2}}
>> > > <mystuff>Some text</mystuff>
>> > > The first two property values are stored when I approve a
>> > revision of
>> > > this article and my parserhook is called, only that the properties
>> > > that I create via addProperty() don't appear in the factbox and in
>> > > queries :(
>> > >
>> > > Do I need to call any other functions besides addProperty? I tried
>> > > SMWOuputs::commitToParser, but that didn't help..
>> > >
>> > > Regards,
>> > > Stefan
>> >
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