I think they are making good-faith efforts in that direction. The test repo's main Halo extension has patches no longer! to core anything.
Further, a project to eliminate patches to HaloACL has started, so there's much room for optimism, albeit at a pace less than optimal.

On 11/8/2013 11:43 AM, trueskew wrote:

Yes I know, and WikiEditor is probably a more reasonable first step for getting things running again with later versions of MW than 1.17.   But I’m more enthused about the team taking the more useful SMW+ extensions and making them compatible with “normal” MW/SMW. 


The big problem with SMW+ was that they branched away from working with the standard extensions, patching them instead.  It would be great if DIQA decided to stop that practice.


From: John McClure [mailto:jmcclure@hypergrove.com]
Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 11:34 AM
To: semediawiki-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: [SMW-devel] smw+


SMW+ lives on as DataWiki, from DIQA-PM.
They have graciously made the MW19/SMW8 test repository available at http://repository.data-wiki.com/release180/.

You will note that WYSWYG is no longer there -- WikiEditor is being distributed. I'm working now to get this new suite running, and will report how much the Annotation toolbar and other items in the previous editing interface, have been preserved.

On 11/6/2013 4:18 PM, trueskew wrote:

Short history:

With  Mediawiki 1.16 / Semantic Mediawiki 1.5.2 / Semantic Forms 0.4.1, you could open a form, and in the free text area you could enable a rich text editor, FCKeditor 1.0.1 (a.k.a. CKEditor).


Then there was SMW+, which went to Mediawiki 1.17 / SMW (not sure) / and WYSIWYG, which I believe is an update to FCKeditor.  It had the same functionality with Semantic Forms, and they improved it quite a bit over FCKeditor.


The SMW+ is no longer what it used to be (I’ll leave it at that, there are plenty of discussions about it’s status changes online), a group has been updating the WYSIWYG extension to work with later versions of Mediawiki:




I’ve tried it, it’s the best so far and very robust compared to FCKeditor.  It has a feature set that appears to greatly exceed that of the roadmap of the VisualEditor effort:




particularly for those of us in a work environment where things like Word import is valuable.  You can see a discussion about this here:




Project Idea:

I suggest a project to get the WYSIWYG extension working with the latest Semantic Forms, in a way that can be supported with little if any effort in later versions of Semantic Forms.  I believe it would be a greatly appreciated effort for more organizations than just mine.


Thanks, and good luck.



From: Chenoweth, Stephen V [mailto:chenowet@rose-hulman.edu]
Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2013 7:22 AM
To: semediawiki-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: [SMW-devel] A list of suggested developments for undergrads to try?




Any ideas for a serious class project, like in PHP, perhaps, that also would be useful to SMW?


I have 23 talented junior CS majors who built a SMW-based Wiki this fall.  When populated with data, it will show the flow of concepts related to our courses, etc. at Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology.


This same class is next heading into a course in software design.  I would love to give them a design and programming project to do, which could benefit this particular Wiki they built, but which also would be of interest to you, the SMW community.  I suggested PHP, above, because a key goal of the design course is for the students to become adept at software patterns and other OO skills.


As a student project, this should not be something critical in your development path, but, ideally, if they produced a high quality result, it is something that might end up rolled into the general product or might become an extension.  In previous classes, we have ended up submitting results back into SourceForge.


So, do you have specific ideas that come to mind?  Or, do you have a “wish list” already, that they could go look at, and choose for themselves?


We would love to have this class be the test case for an ongoing relationship.


Your recommendations are greatly appreciated!


Steve Chenoweth

Assoc Prof, CSSE



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