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From: Sylvain G. <mo...@pu...> - 2004-06-09 21:21:12
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So... let's test :) For my Makefile, I used -L/usr/lib/pl-5.2.12/runtime/i686-linux/ -lplmt, inspired from my segusoLand Makefile. The strange this I notice immediatly is that on the first item (Add to Important locations), the "highlight" is correct. On the others, the background of the hightlight gets bigger and bigger. Then... at the moment, I'm playing with the buttons. :) -- Sylvain |
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From: Maurizio C. <seg...@ti...> - 2004-06-09 19:58:06
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On Wednesday 09 June 2004 03:46 pm, Henrik Brink wrote: > tor, 2004-06-10 kl. 03:35 skrev Maurizio Colucci: > > On Wednesday 09 June 2004 03:26 pm, Henrik Brink wrote: > > > # make -f Makefile.henrik > > > /usr/share/qt3/bin/moc intelliDesktop.cc -o intelliDesktop.moc > > > g++ -c -pipe -Wall -W -O2 -DQT_NO_DEBUG -DQT_SHARED > > > -I/usr/share/qt3/mkspecs/default -I. -I. -I/usr/include/qt3 > > > -I/usr/lib/pl-5.2.11/include -lplmt -I/home/henrik/tmp/boost-1.30.2 -o > > > intelliDesktop.o intelliDesktop.cc > > > g++: -lplmt: linker input file unused because linking not done > > > > it seems you added -lplmt in the wrong section of the makefile. > > > > try adding it in LIBS, not in INCPATH > > > > > g++ -o src intelliDesktop.o -L/usr/share/qt3/lib -L/usr/X11R6/lib > > > -lqt -lXext -lX11 -lm > > > > Let me know :-) > > Much better, but still not good enough: > > make -f Makefile.henrik > /usr/share/qt3/bin/moc intelliDesktop.cc -o intelliDesktop.moc > g++ -c -pipe -Wall -W -O2 -DQT_NO_DEBUG -DQT_SHARED > -I/usr/share/qt3/mkspecs/default -I. -I. -I/usr/include/qt3 > -I/usr/lib/pl-5.2.11/include -I/home/henrik/tmp/boost-1.30.2 -o > intelliDesktop.o intelliDesktop.cc > g++ -o src intelliDesktop.o -L/usr/share/qt3/lib -L/usr/X11R6/lib > -lqt -lXext -lX11 -lm -lplmt > /usr/bin/ld: can't find -lplmt Yes, you need to add -L/usr/lib/pl-5.2.11/libs/i686-linux (or whatever path contains libplmt.o) to the LIBS section of the Makefile Also you will need to ass -lcurses (Mandrake) or -lncurses (on SUSE). Thanks :-) > collect2: ld returned 1 exit status > make: *** [src] Error 1 > > > M |
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From: Henrik B. <hb...@pr...> - 2004-06-09 19:50:27
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tor, 2004-06-10 kl. 03:35 skrev Maurizio Colucci: > On Wednesday 09 June 2004 03:26 pm, Henrik Brink wrote: > > # make -f Makefile.henrik > > /usr/share/qt3/bin/moc intelliDesktop.cc -o intelliDesktop.moc > > g++ -c -pipe -Wall -W -O2 -DQT_NO_DEBUG -DQT_SHARED > > -I/usr/share/qt3/mkspecs/default -I. -I. -I/usr/include/qt3 > > -I/usr/lib/pl-5.2.11/include -lplmt -I/home/henrik/tmp/boost-1.30.2 -o > > intelliDesktop.o intelliDesktop.cc > > g++: -lplmt: linker input file unused because linking not done > > it seems you added -lplmt in the wrong section of the makefile. > > try adding it in LIBS, not in INCPATH > > > g++ -o src intelliDesktop.o -L/usr/share/qt3/lib -L/usr/X11R6/lib > > -lqt -lXext -lX11 -lm > > Let me know :-) Much better, but still not good enough: make -f Makefile.henrik /usr/share/qt3/bin/moc intelliDesktop.cc -o intelliDesktop.moc g++ -c -pipe -Wall -W -O2 -DQT_NO_DEBUG -DQT_SHARED -I/usr/share/qt3/mkspecs/default -I. -I. -I/usr/include/qt3 -I/usr/lib/pl-5.2.11/include -I/home/henrik/tmp/boost-1.30.2 -o intelliDesktop.o intelliDesktop.cc g++ -o src intelliDesktop.o -L/usr/share/qt3/lib -L/usr/X11R6/lib -lqt -lXext -lX11 -lm -lplmt /usr/bin/ld: can't find -lplmt collect2: ld returned 1 exit status make: *** [src] Error 1 > > M > |
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From: Maurizio C. <seg...@ti...> - 2004-06-09 19:35:07
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On Wednesday 09 June 2004 03:26 pm, Henrik Brink wrote: > # make -f Makefile.henrik > /usr/share/qt3/bin/moc intelliDesktop.cc -o intelliDesktop.moc > g++ -c -pipe -Wall -W -O2 =A0-DQT_NO_DEBUG -DQT_SHARED > -I/usr/share/qt3/mkspecs/default -I. -I. -I/usr/include/qt3 > -I/usr/lib/pl-5.2.11/include -lplmt -I/home/henrik/tmp/boost-1.30.2 -o > intelliDesktop.o intelliDesktop.cc > g++: -lplmt: linker input file unused because linking not done it seems you added -lplmt in the wrong section of the makefile. try adding it in LIBS, not in INCPATH > g++ =A0-o src intelliDesktop.o =A0 -L/usr/share/qt3/lib -L/usr/X11R6/lib > -lqt -lXext -lX11 -lm Let me know :-) M |
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From: Henrik B. <hb...@pr...> - 2004-06-09 19:30:57
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tor, 2004-06-10 kl. 03:11 skrev Maurizio Colucci: > On Wednesday 09 June 2004 03:02 pm, Henrik Brink wrote: > > tor, 2004-06-10 kl. 02:14 skrev Maurizio Colucci: > > > Hello there, > > > > > > I have released the first version of the new program (currently > > > named Logical Desktop). > > > > > > I released it as module of segusoland, so you can retrieve it with > > > > > > cvs -z3 -d:ext:YO...@cv...:/cvsroot/segusoland checkout > > > logicaldesktop > > > > > > or > > > > > > cvs -z3 -d:pserver:ano...@cv...:/cvsroot/segusoland > > > checkout logicaldesktop > > > > > > depending on your cvs status. > > > > > > If you have time, let me know what you think. > > > > > > Please post here any problem compiling :-) > > > > When I do: > > > > # make > > g++ -c -pipe -Wall -W -O2 -DQT_NO_DEBUG -DQT_SHARED > > -I/usr/share/qt3/mkspecs/default -I. -I. -I/usr/include/qt3 > > -I/usr/lib/pl-5.2.11/include -I/home/henrik/tmp/boost-1.30.2 -o > > intelliDesktop.o intelliDesktop.cc > > > > I get these errors along many others: > > > > intelliDesktop.cc:131: 'map' is used as a type, but is not defined as a > > type. > > Thanks Henrik, I had forgotten > > #include <map> > > Please try again now. :-) > > > > > Do I need newer versions of SWI-Prolog or Boost? > > No. But if you use swi older than 5.3.10 then you must put -lplmt in the > Makefile, otherwise -lpl. > > ok, I got a bit longer now, but I get this: # make -f Makefile.henrik /usr/share/qt3/bin/moc intelliDesktop.cc -o intelliDesktop.moc g++ -c -pipe -Wall -W -O2 -DQT_NO_DEBUG -DQT_SHARED -I/usr/share/qt3/mkspecs/default -I. -I. -I/usr/include/qt3 -I/usr/lib/pl-5.2.11/include -lplmt -I/home/henrik/tmp/boost-1.30.2 -o intelliDesktop.o intelliDesktop.cc g++: -lplmt: linker input file unused because linking not done g++ -o src intelliDesktop.o -L/usr/share/qt3/lib -L/usr/X11R6/lib -lqt -lXext -lX11 -lm intelliDesktop.o(.text+0x16): In function `SegTerm::termToString(unsigned long)': : undefined reference to `PL_get_chars' intelliDesktop.o(.text+0xdd): In function `callPredicate(std::basic_string<char, std::char_traits<char>, std::allocator<char> > const&)': : undefined reference to `PL_new_term_ref' intelliDesktop.o(.text+0xf7): In function `callPredicate(std::basic_string<char, std::char_traits<char>, std::allocator<char> > const&)': : undefined reference to `PL_chars_to_term' intelliDesktop.o(.text+0x109): In function `callPredicate(std::basic_string<char, std::char_traits<char>, std::allocator<char> > const&)': (...) and it goes on like that... > Mau |
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From: Maurizio C. <seg...@ti...> - 2004-06-09 19:22:12
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On Wednesday 09 June 2004 03:06 pm, Narcoleptic Electron wrote:
> Maurizio Colucci wrote:
> > I have released the first version of the new program
> > (currently
> > named Logical Desktop).
>
> Is the name issue is now closed? If so, please
> disregard this message...
No :-)
> I think "Logical Desktop" is not a terrible name, but
> it is bland ("Desktop" is a filler word) and
> non-descriptive (I'm sure that there are 300 programs
> out there that could have suitably been named "Logical
> Desktop", including Apple's Expose).
>
> What didn't you like about "Verbalize"? It seems so
> perfect to me, considering that the program is
> centered around putting "verbs" into sentences.
I did the following reasoning.
The purpose is to attract the attention of people browsing freshmeat (or
slashdot). So I believe we need to have two words:
1) "Desktop", which clearly defines what the program is.
2) Some adjective, that arouses the curiosity of the reader. It is better if
the adjective is a strange one... for example, "Provocatory". so the reader
will feel the need to click it and discover IN WHAT SENSE that desktop is
provocatory. I chose "logical", because I hope the reader to be curious in
which sense the desktop is logical. I also believe "narrowing" could be a
good adjective, because you don't figure out what it means and you wnat to
discover more.
"Verbalize" does arouse the curiosity, but I believe the word "desktop" is
needed. Bbecause it is better to arouse curiosity AFTER you have cleanly
defined the context.
Finally, let's not be afraid to choose a bad name, because this project has no
ambition. Its purpose is to have the KDE people integrate the paradigm into
KDE.
bye
Maurizio
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From: Maurizio C. <seg...@ti...> - 2004-06-09 19:11:05
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On Wednesday 09 June 2004 03:02 pm, Henrik Brink wrote: > tor, 2004-06-10 kl. 02:14 skrev Maurizio Colucci: > > Hello there, > > > > I have released the first version of the new program (currently > > named Logical Desktop). > > > > I released it as module of segusoland, so you can retrieve it with > > > > cvs -z3 -d:ext:YO...@cv...:/cvsroot/segusoland checkout > > logicaldesktop > > > > or > > > > cvs -z3 -d:pserver:ano...@cv...:/cvsroot/segusoland > > checkout logicaldesktop > > > > depending on your cvs status. > > > > If you have time, let me know what you think. > > > > Please post here any problem compiling :-) > > When I do: > > # make > g++ -c -pipe -Wall -W -O2 -DQT_NO_DEBUG -DQT_SHARED > -I/usr/share/qt3/mkspecs/default -I. -I. -I/usr/include/qt3 > -I/usr/lib/pl-5.2.11/include -I/home/henrik/tmp/boost-1.30.2 -o > intelliDesktop.o intelliDesktop.cc > > I get these errors along many others: > > intelliDesktop.cc:131: 'map' is used as a type, but is not defined as a > type. Thanks Henrik, I had forgotten #include <map> Please try again now. :-) > Do I need newer versions of SWI-Prolog or Boost? No. But if you use swi older than 5.3.10 then you must put -lplmt in the Makefile, otherwise -lpl. Mau |
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From: Narcoleptic E. <nar...@ya...> - 2004-06-09 19:07:05
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Maurizio Colucci wrote:
> I have released the first version of the new program
> (currently
> named Logical Desktop).
Is the name issue is now closed? If so, please
disregard this message...
I think "Logical Desktop" is not a terrible name, but
it is bland ("Desktop" is a filler word) and
non-descriptive (I'm sure that there are 300 programs
out there that could have suitably been named "Logical
Desktop", including Apple's Expose).
What didn't you like about "Verbalize"? It seems so
perfect to me, considering that the program is
centered around putting "verbs" into sentences.
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From: Henrik B. <hb...@pr...> - 2004-06-09 19:06:42
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tor, 2004-06-10 kl. 02:14 skrev Maurizio Colucci: > Hello there, > > I have released the first version of the new program (currently > named Logical Desktop). > > I released it as module of segusoland, so you can retrieve it with > > cvs -z3 -d:ext:YO...@cv...:/cvsroot/segusoland checkout logicaldesktop > > or > > cvs -z3 -d:pserver:ano...@cv...:/cvsroot/segusoland checkout logicaldesktop > > depending on your cvs status. > > If you have time, let me know what you think. > > Please post here any problem compiling :-) When I do: # make g++ -c -pipe -Wall -W -O2 -DQT_NO_DEBUG -DQT_SHARED -I/usr/share/qt3/mkspecs/default -I. -I. -I/usr/include/qt3 -I/usr/lib/pl-5.2.11/include -I/home/henrik/tmp/boost-1.30.2 -o intelliDesktop.o intelliDesktop.cc I get these errors along many others: intelliDesktop.cc:131: 'map' is used as a type, but is not defined as a type. intelliDesktop.cc:136: syntaksfejl before `;' token intelliDesktop.cc: In function `void RegisterName(boost::shared_ptr<SegTerm>, QWidget*)': intelliDesktop.cc:184: `gPrologNameToQObject' undeclared (first use this function) (...) Do I need newer versions of SWI-Prolog or Boost? > There are no install instructions yet. > > quick instructions: > > qmake -project > qmake > <<Edit the make file in a similar way to the supplied makefile>> > make > ./src > > > Maurizio > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by: GNOME Foundation > Hackers Unite! GUADEC: The world's #1 Open Source Desktop Event. > GNOME Users and Developers European Conference, 28-30th June in Norway > http://2004/guadec.org > _______________________________________________ > Segusoland-user mailing list > Seg...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/segusoland-user |
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From: Maurizio C. <seg...@ti...> - 2004-06-09 18:15:02
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Hello there, I have released the first version of the new program (currently named Logical Desktop). I released it as module of segusoland, so you can retrieve it with cvs -z3 -d:ext:YO...@cv...:/cvsroot/segusoland checkout logicaldesktop or cvs -z3 -d:pserver:ano...@cv...:/cvsroot/segusoland checkout logicaldesktop depending on your cvs status. If you have time, let me know what you think. Please post here any problem compiling :-) There are no install instructions yet. quick instructions: qmake -project qmake <<Edit the make file in a similar way to the supplied makefile>> make ./src Maurizio |
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From: Narcoleptic E. <nar...@ya...> - 2004-06-08 15:29:05
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Maurizio Colucci wrote: > Verbalizer could be acceptable... Or "verbalize"; this makes the name itself a verb, for that extra touch of cleverness. Andreas Braml wrote: > - alba (not the island, the genre) Aha: the "white matter" of the brain! Segusoland is like the language center. More free-association: - Broca - Wernicke - arcuate fasciculus - cortex > A bit more free: > > - ideal servant > - j. user's little helper Interesting stuff. > What about "ProceeD" (guess what the "D" stands > for...)? > "proCURE"? > "solution"? > Or (taking the last entry from DCE) "zygote"? :-D Keep the juices flowing. > Is this even possible? To take this _too_ seriously? > ;) Amen! Even though we can only pick one name for the program, these names may be useful to describe concepts, add-ons, a scripting language for it, etc., etc. Very useful stuff, to help us create a very rich brand. ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca |
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From: Maurizio C. <seg...@ti...> - 2004-06-08 15:27:23
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I really like this one... |
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From: Maurizio C. <seg...@ti...> - 2004-06-08 15:17:29
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Desktop Reborn? Desktop From Scratch? |
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From: Maurizio C. <seg...@ti...> - 2004-06-08 15:16:40
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On Tuesday 08 June 2004 10:30 am, Andreas Braml wrote: > - prose > - hymnus > - alba (not the island, the genre) Desktop Zen? > A bit more free: > > - ideal servant > - j. user's little helper > > > We could take it further: why are we building a > > sentence? =A0To issue a command to the computer. =A0Maybe > > Segusoland is like a personal secretary that we are > > dictating a letter to. =A0Maybe Segusoland is like a > > speech writer for the president. =A0Maybe the computer > > is like a person that speaks another language, and > > Segusoland is like a translator. =A0Does any of this > > spark anything with anyone? Verbalizer could be acceptable... > What about "ProceeD" (guess what the "D" stands for...)? > "proCURE"? > "solution"? > Or (taking the last entry from DCE) "zygote"? :-D Absolute Desktop? Beginning with "Ab" could be a big advantage for people=20 browsing freshmeat. > > > Sorry if I'm taking this naming stuff too seriously, > > Is this even possible? To take this _too_ seriously? ;) |
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From: Narcoleptic E. <nar...@ya...> - 2004-06-08 14:36:53
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In addendum to this: > "Building a sentence by putting words together" is a > great metaphor, and is the one used by the product > itself, so it should definitely be harnessed. So > let's brainstorm on words/concepts that relate > (Note: > these are *not* name suggestions - just > brainstorming): > > - grammar > - tutor > - thesaurus > - dictionary > - reader > > We could take it further: why are we building a > sentence? To issue a command to the computer. > Maybe > Segusoland is like a personal secretary that we are > dictating a letter to. Maybe Segusoland is like a > speech writer for the president. Maybe the computer > is like a person that speaks another language, and > Segusoland is like a translator. Does any of this > spark anything with anyone? *** Verbalizer! *** - From thefreedictionary.com: "someone who expresses in language; someone who talks (especially someone who delivers a public speech or someone especially garrulous); the speaker at commencement; an utterer of useful maxims". - It really describes what the application does: it puts words to an action, so that the computer understands the action and does it. - The word "verb" is already used dominantly in the application; more consistency = easier to use. Thoughts? ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca |
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From: Andreas B. <a.s...@we...> - 2004-06-08 14:29:53
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Hi! Narcoleptic Electron wrote: > "Building a sentence by putting words together" is a > great metaphor, and is the one used by the product > itself, so it should definitely be harnessed. So > let's brainstorm on words/concepts that relate (Note: > these are *not* name suggestions - just > brainstorming): > > - grammar > - tutor > - thesaurus > - dictionary > - reader - prose - hymnus - alba (not the island, the genre) A bit more free: - ideal servant - j. user's little helper > We could take it further: why are we building a > sentence? To issue a command to the computer. Maybe > Segusoland is like a personal secretary that we are > dictating a letter to. Maybe Segusoland is like a > speech writer for the president. Maybe the computer > is like a person that speaks another language, and > Segusoland is like a translator. Does any of this > spark anything with anyone? What about "ProceeD" (guess what the "D" stands for...)? "proCURE"? "solution"? Or (taking the last entry from DCE) "zygote"? :-D > > Sorry if I'm taking this naming stuff too seriously, Is this even possible? To take this _too_ seriously? ;) Andreas |
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From: Narcoleptic E. <nar...@ya...> - 2004-06-08 14:02:55
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Maurizio Colucci wrote: > Yes, I agree. Since it is not possible to find a > nice evocative name, we > should find a beautiful nonevocative one. Why isn't it possible? I think we are just going about it the wrong way. As I suggested, we need to shift the conversation away from "what is the best name?" to "what is the best metaphor?". Once we have a good metaphor, the name will come more easily, along with the logo, the website design, and names for additional related products that we might come up with later. If we don't have a metaphor, we are grasping in the dark. > The name must still be unique... I mean, if you > search it in google you must > find that program and only that program. Not that Apple branding is gospel, but that's not the case for "rendezvous" or "expose". I think that is an overrated criterion, and far more important is "economy", or "maximum impact with minimum words". > I am flirting with the idea of "Disinfected Desktop" > or "Purified Desktop". If you don't like either of > them, say it now :-) They don't say anything unique about the product. > (Anyway, I was thinking of something like > Combinatorial Desktop, Combination > Desktop... because you compose your sentence by > picking, or combining, atomic > elements...) Still too vague. Also, the word "Desktop" is just extra verbal baggage. Like if I sold a suitcase called "Durable Suitcase" or "Quality Carrying Compartment". "Building a sentence by putting words together" is a great metaphor, and is the one used by the product itself, so it should definitely be harnessed. So let's brainstorm on words/concepts that relate (Note: these are *not* name suggestions - just brainstorming): - grammar - tutor - thesaurus - dictionary - reader We could take it further: why are we building a sentence? To issue a command to the computer. Maybe Segusoland is like a personal secretary that we are dictating a letter to. Maybe Segusoland is like a speech writer for the president. Maybe the computer is like a person that speaks another language, and Segusoland is like a translator. Does any of this spark anything with anyone? Sorry if I'm taking this naming stuff too seriously, N. Electron ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca |
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From: Maurizio C. <seg...@ti...> - 2004-06-08 12:49:47
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I am flirting with the idea of "Disinfected Desktop" or "Purified Desktop". If you don't like either of them, say it now :-) Mau |
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From: Maurizio C. <seg...@ti...> - 2004-06-08 11:45:34
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On Monday 07 June 2004 06:38 pm, Narcoleptic Electron wrote: > Maurizio Colucci wrote: > > I need a goddamn name soon... > > Most of the suggestions so far are too functional, or > not economical enough, or too vague, or all of the > above. Apple could have called Expos=E9 "The Desktop > Organizer" or "Visual Desktop" or "The Exploding > Desktop". Expos=E9 is far more pithy and to-the-point, > and the word itself has a certain beauty. As Leonard > Cohen wrote, "There's a blaze of light in every word". > We must ink our poet's pens here. Yes, I agree. Since it is not possible to find a nice evocative name, we=20 should find a beautiful nonevocative one. (Anyway, I was thinking of something like Combinatorial Desktop, Combinatio= n=20 Desktop... because you compose your sentence by picking, or combining, atom= ic=20 elements...) > Now for the "constructive" part of my constructive > criticism, I will throw in another suggestion: > "Arminius". After Jacobus Arminius, who championed > the theological idea that human beings naturally have > true free will. It relates to Segusoland in that it > is all about presenting choices to the user clearly, > thus truly providing free will. Sorry, I cannot accept that. Since there is no free will (:-), I don't like to support that misconceptio= n. > Could also call it "Chisel", as it is a tool for > removing irrelevant choices and ending up with a > beautiful sculpture. =20 > You could also call it=20 > "Sculptor", or even the name of a famous sculptor (eg. > "Michelangelo"). I like Michelangelo... but the name wouldn't be easy to find in google... The name must still be unique... I mean, if you search it in google you mus= t=20 find that program and only that program. > These are only a few off the top of my head. Just > need to find an evocative metaphor, and the name will > follow. Thesaurus.com is a gold mine. Thanks, I didn't know it. > And don't=20 > forget that the name itself will lend a certain > aesthetic, so make sure it is luminescent of its own > accord. Thanks Mauri |
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From: Narcoleptic E. <nar...@ya...> - 2004-06-07 22:38:13
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Maurizio Colucci wrote: > I need a goddamn name soon... Most of the suggestions so far are too functional, or not economical enough, or too vague, or all of the above. Apple could have called Exposé "The Desktop Organizer" or "Visual Desktop" or "The Exploding Desktop". Exposé is far more pithy and to-the-point, and the word itself has a certain beauty. As Leonard Cohen wrote, "There's a blaze of light in every word". We must ink our poet's pens here. Now for the "constructive" part of my constructive criticism, I will throw in another suggestion: "Arminius". After Jacobus Arminius, who championed the theological idea that human beings naturally have true free will. It relates to Segusoland in that it is all about presenting choices to the user clearly, thus truly providing free will. Could also call it "Chisel", as it is a tool for removing irrelevant choices and ending up with a beautiful sculpture. You could also call it "Sculptor", or even the name of a famous sculptor (eg. "Michelangelo"). These are only a few off the top of my head. Just need to find an evocative metaphor, and the name will follow. Thesaurus.com is a gold mine. And don't forget that the name itself will lend a certain aesthetic, so make sure it is luminescent of its own accord. Off again, N. Electron ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca |
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From: Maurizio C. <seg...@ti...> - 2004-06-07 21:57:19
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On Sunday 06 June 2004 11:01 am, Maurizio Colucci wrote: > On Saturday 05 June 2004 06:21 am, Andreas Braml wrote: > > Hi! > > > > Maurizio Colucci wrote: > > > My only concern is that the name is not evocative of what it is, > > > whereas the "The narrowing Desktop" was... > > > > ... if you already know what the concept of "narrowing" > > means. If you don't, it reminds you of "limiting", as if you > > were no longer able to do all you could do with other > > desktops used before. > > And that's good, because it arouses your curiosity. Since nobody would give > a negative name to his product, the reader should feel the desire to see > what "narrowing" really means, and why it is a good thing. > > Anyway, if other people don't think so, let me know. > > I believe IF we want an evocative name, the word "desktop" should be in it. > > > Desktop Brain, > the Hiding Desktop (does this solve your concerns?) > Lord of The Desktop, > Professor Desktop, > The Sensible Desktop, > The Narrowing Desktop > Jesus Desktop > > Otherwise, we have a complete freedom to choose a name > > The Narrow Path > They Stole my Brain > Cockmaster > I need a goddamn name soon... The program is already working (except that you can't sort the contents of panels, and you cannot execute actions). Other proposals. The Art of Desktop File Narrowing NarrowPath NarrowFile Provocatory Desktop Desktop Religion Maurizio |
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From: Maurizio C. <seg...@ti...> - 2004-06-06 09:02:10
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On Saturday 05 June 2004 06:21 am, Andreas Braml wrote: > Hi! > > Maurizio Colucci wrote: > > My only concern is that the name is not evocative of what it is, whereas > > the "The narrowing Desktop" was... > > ... if you already know what the concept of "narrowing" > means. If you don't, it reminds you of "limiting", as if you > were no longer able to do all you could do with other > desktops used before. And that's good, because it arouses your curiosity. Since nobody would give a negative name to his product, the reader should feel the desire to see what "narrowing" really means, and why it is a good thing. Anyway, if other people don't think so, let me know. I believe IF we want an evocative name, the word "desktop" should be in it. Desktop Brain, the Hiding Desktop (does this solve your concerns?) Lord of The Desktop, Professor Desktop, The Sensible Desktop, The Narrowing Desktop Jesus Desktop Otherwise, we have a complete freedom to choose a name The Narrow Path They Stole my Brain Cockmaster and so on :-) Maurizio |
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From: Andreas B. <a.s...@we...> - 2004-06-05 10:22:31
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Hi! Maurizio Colucci wrote: > My only concern is that the name is not evocative of what it is, whereas the > "The narrowing Desktop" was... ... if you already know what the concept of "narrowing" means. If you don't, it reminds you of "limiting", as if you were no longer able to do all you could do with other desktops used before. The concept narrows _down_ the choice in a helpful way, somehow this must be in the name. That it is a _positive_ experience to have a narrowing desktop, not a limiting one. I hope I could make this clear; english is not really my "first tongue" ;) > > Maybe TND could bring more people to look at it? > I don't know. As I've already said, it's not exclusively positive, as far as I am concerned. Andreas |
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From: Mike P <mi...@fr...> - 2004-06-05 09:47:48
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Hi, I personally like the name Segusoland as it invokes curiosity. Anyway, I think it might also worth taking a look at alternatives. Perhaps we could learn something from Apple's creativity in naming their new applications like the Expose and Dock. Both suggestive of it's function while still invoking curiosity and easy to remember. I suggest we stick to just one word. It takes a lot of brainstorming mileage though to arrive at the right one. On Sat, 5 Jun 2004 09:34:15 -0400, Maurizio Colucci <seguso.forever@tin.i= t> wrote: > On Saturday 05 June 2004 01:01 am, Narcoleptic Electron wrote: >> - Jesus >> (Matthew 7:14) > > The Narrow Path? > > It's a beautiful name, with charisma. > > My only concern is that the name is not evocative of what it is, wherea= s the > "The narrowing Desktop" was... > > Maybe TND could bring more people to look at it? > > I need some opinions about this. > > Maurizio > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by the new InstallShield X. > From Windows to Linux, servers to mobile, InstallShield X is the one > installation-authoring solution that does it all. Learn more and > evaluate today! http://www.installshield.com/Dev2Dev/0504 > _______________________________________________ > Segusoland-user mailing list > Seg...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/segusoland-user > --=20 Mike P "Our civilization is no more than the sum of all the dreams that earlier ages have brought to fulfillment. And so it must always be, for if men cease to dream, if they turn their backs upon the universe, the story of our race will end." --Arthur C. Clarke |
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From: Maurizio C. <seg...@ti...> - 2004-06-05 07:35:03
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On Saturday 05 June 2004 01:01 am, Narcoleptic Electron wrote: > - Jesus > (Matthew 7:14) The Narrow Path? It's a beautiful name, with charisma. My only concern is that the name is not evocative of what it is, whereas the "The narrowing Desktop" was... Maybe TND could bring more people to look at it? I need some opinions about this. Maurizio |