From: Borut R. <bor...@gm...> - 2011-07-30 08:40:54
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Hi, Dave McGuire sent me a mail that he is moving his network, including the sdcc snapshot build servers, to his new facility. The servers will be down for some time, probably a week or so. This means that sdcc snapshot build will not be done for FreeBSD/x86, NetBSD/i386, NetBSD/sparc64, OpenBSD/i386, Solaris SPARC, Solaris x86. P.S.: I don't know what is happening with the Mac OS X build machine: it is stil unaccessible. 2011-06-06 I sent a mail to Steven Borley, but still haven't received any answer. I'll send him an other mail now... P.P.S.: We can never thank the guys sharing their machines for running snapshot builds enough! Borut |
From: Borut R. <bor...@gm...> - 2011-07-30 09:26:47
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Hi, Steven already replied me that there is a chance for the Mac OS X build machine to be back this weekend. Let hope for the best... Borut On 07/30/2011 10:40 AM, Borut Ražem wrote: > Hi, > > Dave McGuire sent me a mail that he is moving his network, including > the sdcc snapshot build servers, to his new facility. The servers will > be down for some time, probably a week or so. > > This means that sdcc snapshot build will not be done for FreeBSD/x86, > NetBSD/i386, NetBSD/sparc64, OpenBSD/i386, Solaris SPARC, Solaris x86. > > P.S.: I don't know what is happening with the Mac OS X build machine: > it is stil unaccessible. 2011-06-06 I sent a mail to Steven Borley, > but still haven't received any answer. I'll send him an other mail now... > > P.P.S.: We can never thank the guys sharing their machines for running > snapshot builds enough! > > Borut |
From: Borut R. <bor...@gm...> - 2011-07-30 16:26:16
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And now the great news: Mac OS X snapshot build machine is back! Zillion thanks to Steven! Borut On 07/30/2011 11:26 AM, Borut Ražem wrote: > Hi, > > Steven already replied me that there is a chance for the Mac OS X > build machine to be back this weekend. > Let hope for the best... > > Borut > > > On 07/30/2011 10:40 AM, Borut Ražem wrote: >> Hi, >> >> Dave McGuire sent me a mail that he is moving his network, including >> the sdcc snapshot build servers, to his new facility. The servers >> will be down for some time, probably a week or so. >> >> This means that sdcc snapshot build will not be done for FreeBSD/x86, >> NetBSD/i386, NetBSD/sparc64, OpenBSD/i386, Solaris SPARC, Solaris x86. >> >> P.S.: I don't know what is happening with the Mac OS X build machine: >> it is stil unaccessible. 2011-06-06 I sent a mail to Steven Borley, >> but still haven't received any answer. I'll send him an other mail >> now... >> >> P.P.S.: We can never thank the guys sharing their machines for >> running snapshot builds enough! >> >> Borut > |
From: Douglas G. <dou...@ma...> - 2011-07-30 12:16:21
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Friends, I have a well hosted server with huge amounts of space that I would be happy to make available to host a mirror for snapshot builds of the SDCC project. Douglas Goodall dou...@ma... On Jul 30, 2011, at 1:40 AM, Borut Ražem wrote: > Hi, > > Dave McGuire sent me a mail that he is moving his network, including the > sdcc snapshot build servers, to his new facility. The servers will be > down for some time, probably a week or so. > > This means that sdcc snapshot build will not be done for FreeBSD/x86, > NetBSD/i386, NetBSD/sparc64, OpenBSD/i386, Solaris SPARC, Solaris x86. > > P.S.: I don't know what is happening with the Mac OS X build machine: it > is stil unaccessible. 2011-06-06 I sent a mail to Steven Borley, but > still haven't received any answer. I'll send him an other mail now... > > P.P.S.: We can never thank the guys sharing their machines for running > snapshot builds enough! > > Borut > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Got Input? Slashdot Needs You. > Take our quick survey online. Come on, we don't ask for help often. > Plus, you'll get a chance to win $100 to spend on ThinkGeek. > http://p.sf.net/sfu/slashdot-survey > _______________________________________________ > Sdcc-user mailing list > Sdc...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/sdcc-user --- //* * \\ (/(_•_)\) _/''*''\_ (/_)^(_\) Douglas Goodall dou...@me... http://www.goodall.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/douglasgoodall "Did Goloka think the Ulus were too ugly to save?" |
From: Borut R. <bor...@gm...> - 2011-07-31 09:00:11
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Hi Douglas, the mirroring is very well handeled by sourecforge File Release System, see http://sourceforge.net/apps/trac/sourceforge/wiki/Mirrors. If you want to mirror snapshot builds, you can pull them from one of SF mirrors. But we could use an other Linux x86 or x86_64 machine as a snapshot build server. Currently all Intel based builds (Linux i386, Linux amd64 and Windows 32) are done on the same machine, which takes a lot of CPU and real time during compilation / regression testing and a lot of network bandwidth during the file transfer. Oh yes, the same machine is also acting as a DCF server... So we could divide this tasks on several machines.... In any case: thanks for you offer! Borut On 07/30/2011 02:15 PM, Douglas Goodall wrote: > Friends, > > I have a well hosted server with huge amounts of space that I would be happy > to make available to host a mirror for snapshot builds of the SDCC project. > > Douglas Goodall > dou...@ma... > > On Jul 30, 2011, at 1:40 AM, Borut Ražem wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> Dave McGuire sent me a mail that he is moving his network, including the >> sdcc snapshot build servers, to his new facility. The servers will be >> down for some time, probably a week or so. >> >> This means that sdcc snapshot build will not be done for FreeBSD/x86, >> NetBSD/i386, NetBSD/sparc64, OpenBSD/i386, Solaris SPARC, Solaris x86. >> >> P.S.: I don't know what is happening with the Mac OS X build machine: it >> is stil unaccessible. 2011-06-06 I sent a mail to Steven Borley, but >> still haven't received any answer. I'll send him an other mail now... >> >> P.P.S.: We can never thank the guys sharing their machines for running >> snapshot builds enough! >> >> Borut >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> Got Input? Slashdot Needs You. >> Take our quick survey online. Come on, we don't ask for help often. >> Plus, you'll get a chance to win $100 to spend on ThinkGeek. >> http://p.sf.net/sfu/slashdot-survey >> _______________________________________________ >> Sdcc-user mailing list >> Sdc...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/sdcc-user > --- > > //* * \\ > (/(_•_)\) > _/''*''\_ > (/_)^(_\) > > Douglas Goodall > dou...@me... > http://www.goodall.com > http://www.linkedin.com/in/douglasgoodall > > "Did Goloka think the Ulus > were too ugly to save?" > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Got Input? Slashdot Needs You. > Take our quick survey online. Come on, we don't ask for help often. > Plus, you'll get a chance to win $100 to spend on ThinkGeek. > http://p.sf.net/sfu/slashdot-survey > _______________________________________________ > Sdcc-user mailing list > Sdc...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/sdcc-user |
From: roelof 't H. <ro...@it...> - 2011-07-31 09:51:41
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Hi Borut, On Sun, 2011-07-31 at 11:00 +0200, Borut Razem wrote: > Hi Douglas, > > the mirroring is very well handeled by sourecforge File Release System, > see http://sourceforge.net/apps/trac/sourceforge/wiki/Mirrors. > If you want to mirror snapshot builds, you can pull them from one of SF > mirrors. > > But we could use an other Linux x86 or x86_64 machine as a snapshot > build server. What is needed to setup a Linux snapshot build server ? ie, what kind of scripts, access and anything I can not think of ? Anywhere to find more info ? I have a (virtual) server running idle most of the time. It runs about 10 websites and a database. roelof |
From: Dave M. <mc...@ne...> - 2011-07-31 13:47:36
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On Jul 31, 2011, at 5:00 AM, Borut Razem <bor...@gm...> wrote: > But we could use an other Linux x86 or x86_64 machine as a snapshot > build server. Currently all Intel based builds (Linux i386, Linux amd64 > and Windows 32) are done on the same machine, which takes a lot of CPU > and real time during compilation / regression testing and a lot of > network bandwidth during the file transfer. Oh yes, the same machine is > also acting as a DCF server... So we could divide this tasks on several > machines.... Hey Borut, I can handle these on my network along with the other snapshot build machines once my racks are moved. Not the Windows one though, no Windows here. -Dave -- Dave McGuire Port Charlotte, FL |
From: Borut R. <bor...@gm...> - 2011-07-31 15:20:35
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A lot of offers, these days! I'm thinking about moving the DCF server to an other machine which fulfills the flowing criteria as much as possible: - it has a lot of network bandwidth, since it is acting as a mediator between snapshot build machines and sourceforge File Release System: it accepts the builds from build servers and transfers them to SF FRS, so it is the most critical element regarding the bandwidth. - physical vicinity to the SF servers, at least on the same continent ;-) - a separate machine (or VM) from the snapshot build machine The current DCF has a limited bandwidth: 7KB per second (rsync --bwlimit=7) and the same machine also runs all Intel based builds, as I already mentioned. An other goal I would like to achieve is to have a backup DCF server, which we could activate if the main goes out of business. So, the situation could be: - Dave's machine as the primary DFC server - Erik's cf-x86 machine as the backup DFC and amd64 (in the future also mingw64) build machine - roelof's machine as i386 and mingw32 build machine P.S.: FYI, Steven Borley offered me a Mac OS X i386 machine, which we will use for running regression tests. Universal Mac OS X builds including ppc and i386 binaries are already made on Mac OS X ppc machine. The new machine will be probably available in few months. > no Windows here. Are you living in a cave??? :-D Borut On 07/31/2011 03:28 PM, Dave McGuire wrote: > On Jul 31, 2011, at 5:00 AM, Borut Razem<bor...@gm...> wrote: >> But we could use an other Linux x86 or x86_64 machine as a snapshot >> build server. Currently all Intel based builds (Linux i386, Linux amd64 >> and Windows 32) are done on the same machine, which takes a lot of CPU >> and real time during compilation / regression testing and a lot of >> network bandwidth during the file transfer. Oh yes, the same machine is >> also acting as a DCF server... So we could divide this tasks on several >> machines.... > Hey Borut, I can handle these on my network along with the other snapshot build machines once my racks are moved. > > Not the Windows one though, no Windows here. > > -Dave > |
From: Douglas G. <dou...@ma...> - 2011-07-31 17:03:11
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Dave, If you are phasing out your Mac OS, what are you moving to? I am still gloriously happy with my 8-core Mac Pro. But if there is something better I would want to know. Douglas p.s. I wish I could say I never used Windows, but at least I have been on Unix since version 7. On Jul 31, 2011, at 8:28 AM, Dave McGuire wrote: > On 7/31/11 11:20 AM, Borut Ražem wrote: >>> no Windows here. >> Are you living in a cave??? :-D > > Nope...I never moved INTO a cave. ;) I've never run Windows; I don't > have the patience for it, it's garbage. I've always had a UNIX > workstation of one sort or another on my desk. VAX (several), then > DECstation, then 68K Sun, then SPARC-based Suns (several), then SGI > (several), now an OS X machine (now being phased out) and Sun. > > I think I had *one* of those machines crash *once*, for > all-day/everyday use spanning 25 years...hence the "patience" thing. ;) > > -Dave > > -- > Dave McGuire > Port Charlotte, FL > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Got Input? Slashdot Needs You. > Take our quick survey online. Come on, we don't ask for help often. > Plus, you'll get a chance to win $100 to spend on ThinkGeek. > http://p.sf.net/sfu/slashdot-survey > _______________________________________________ > Sdcc-user mailing list > Sdc...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/sdcc-user |
From: Dave M. <mc...@ne...> - 2011-08-03 03:11:50
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On 7/31/11 1:03 PM, Douglas Goodall wrote: > If you are phasing out your Mac OS, what are you moving to? > > I am still gloriously happy with my 8-core Mac Pro. But if there is something > better I would want to know. Well, there's a bit of a story behind that. I will try to be brief since it's very much off-topic. I found myself in need of a newer desktop machine, as Apple seems to go to great lengths to ensure that each successive release of OS X is slower and fatter for PPC machines. I decided to build a "hackintosh", or an OS X machine not built by Apple, using commodity PC parts (though high-end ones) that have been verified as being compatible with OS X. I built a big, bad Core i7 machine with a very fast system disk, a serious graphics card, and a respectable amount of memory. When I got the system put together, I didn't have an OS X DVD burned from the image file yet, so I decided to throw a temporary copy of Ubuntu 11.04 on it just to test the hardware. The performance amazed me, so I played with it for a couple of days. It worked SO well, and was SO fast, that I just left Ubuntu installed on it. I've since gotten it set up just the way I want it, with very few exceptions, and I'm very happy with it. I still have an OS X laptop (typing on it now, Macbook Air) so I'm not abandoning OS X, but for my primary desktop machine, I've very quickly found that Linux is a faster and more productive choice for me. > p.s. I wish I could say I never used Windows, but at least I have been on Unix > since version 7. Nice! -Dave -- Dave McGuire Port Charlotte, FL |
From: roelof 't H. <ro...@it...> - 2011-08-04 14:56:13
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On Sun, 2011-07-31 at 17:20 +0200, Borut Ražem wrote: > - roelof's machine as i386 and mingw32 build machine Borut, I have got the software installed on my (virtual) server and tested it by compiling the latest sdcc source code. It compiled ok. SDCC then compiles a VERY simple c test program for 8051. I will PM you with the details. roelof |
From: Dave M. <mc...@ne...> - 2011-07-31 15:28:32
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On 7/31/11 11:20 AM, Borut Ražem wrote: > > no Windows here. > Are you living in a cave??? :-D Nope...I never moved INTO a cave. ;) I've never run Windows; I don't have the patience for it, it's garbage. I've always had a UNIX workstation of one sort or another on my desk. VAX (several), then DECstation, then 68K Sun, then SPARC-based Suns (several), then SGI (several), now an OS X machine (now being phased out) and Sun. I think I had *one* of those machines crash *once*, for all-day/everyday use spanning 25 years...hence the "patience" thing. ;) -Dave -- Dave McGuire Port Charlotte, FL |
From: Borut R. <bor...@gm...> - 2011-07-31 17:29:32
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The fact is that the big majority of sdcc users is running Windows: see snapshot builds download statistics at https://sourceforge.net/projects/sdcc/files/snapshot_builds/stats/os. If I wold be vicious I would say: "Remove the Windows from their heads and let the sun shine on their minds", but I'm not, so I never wrote that! ;-) P.S. for Windows users: don't even try to take this as an offence: I'm just in mood to play with words. I'm still using Windows at my job, so I'm joking on my account too. Borut On 07/31/2011 05:28 PM, Dave McGuire wrote: > On 7/31/11 11:20 AM, Borut Ražem wrote: >> > no Windows here. >> Are you living in a cave??? :-D > > Nope...I never moved INTO a cave. ;) I've never run Windows; I > don't have the patience for it, it's garbage. I've always had a UNIX > workstation of one sort or another on my desk. VAX (several), then > DECstation, then 68K Sun, then SPARC-based Suns (several), then SGI > (several), now an OS X machine (now being phased out) and Sun. > > I think I had *one* of those machines crash *once*, for > all-day/everyday use spanning 25 years...hence the "patience" thing. ;) > > -Dave > |
From: Philipp K. K. <pk...@sp...> - 2011-07-31 19:18:48
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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Am 31.07.2011 19:29, schrieb Borut Ražem: > The fact is that the big majority of sdcc users is running Windows: > see snapshot builds download statistics at > https://sourceforge.net/projects/sdcc/files/snapshot_builds/stats/os. > > If I wold be vicious I would say: "Remove the Windows from their heads > and let the sun shine on their minds", but I'm not, so I never wrote > that! ;-) > > P.S. for Windows users: don't even try to take this as an offence: I'm > just in mood to play with words. I'm still using Windows at my job, so > I'm joking on my account too. > > Borut I think you're misinterpretng that page. I rarely use Windows, far less often than once a month. Nevertheless just today I started it, and downloaded a Windows snapshot to have a look at some Windows-specific problem a user reported. On the other hand I don't download snapshots for other systems. GNU/Linux users often find sdcc in their distribution, so they see no need to download the latest snapshot unless they want the most recent version. And if they want a recent version, the effort to compile it themselves is far less than on Windows: GNU/Linux users are used to download a tarball or from svn, use configure, make, make install; their distribution provides them with everything they need to build sdcc. It would be far more effort for a Windows user to build sdcc, since they would have to obtain and install all the necessary tools first. Do we have numbers for tarball downloads and svn checkouts / updates? Philipp -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk41qo0ACgkQbtUV+xsoLppmxgCfauZiqzAbNTpsWB6xzPKyGmiu 6XcAoJCeiGkQv+9KZY+RpT8dHH4tPSNy =Rwgu -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- |
From: Alain M. <al...@po...> - 2011-08-01 15:45:33
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Excuse-me, but that is wrong statisitics. 1) No windows uses can compile his own 2) MOST other OSs users prefer to compile their own. Alain Em 31-07-2011 14:29, Borut Ražem escreveu: > The fact is that the big majority of sdcc users is running Windows: > see snapshot builds download statistics at > https://sourceforge.net/projects/sdcc/files/snapshot_builds/stats/os. > > If I wold be vicious I would say: "Remove the Windows from their heads > and let the sun shine on their minds", but I'm not, so I never wrote > that! ;-) > > P.S. for Windows users: don't even try to take this as an offence: I'm > just in mood to play with words. I'm still using Windows at my job, so > I'm joking on my account too. > > Borut > |
From: Xiaofan C. <xia...@gm...> - 2011-08-03 05:02:49
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On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 11:45 PM, Alain Mouette <al...@po...> wrote: > Excuse-me, but that is wrong statisitics. > > 1) No windows uses can compile his own You should write "majority of the Windows users". There are quite a few Windows users who can build sdcc using Cygwin or MinGW/MSys. After all, sdcc is not that difficult to be built, not like gpsim. I can only guess that there are less than 10 users in the world who has built gpsim under Windows. :-) > 2) MOST other OSs users prefer to compile their own. For sdcc's case, probably, since sdcc distribution inside popular Linux distros are usually outdated. Not sure about Mac OS X users. -- Xiaofan |