From: admin <ad...@de...> - 2011-05-14 06:38:31
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Hello SDCC-Community, There is a SDCC forum at: http://develissimo.com/forum/ We want it to make it the "official SDCC forum". develissimo is a new 2011 electronic platform targeting open source development only! The Forum should support you with fine layout, the possibility to communicate via PMs(personal messages), hide your personal data such as email from the outside world, control and share social networking data, and a bunch of other nice features, such as: +RSS feeds +Show new posts since last visit +Mark all topics as read +Search functions +Change layout via different included stylesheets. +Add avatar +User defined settings +User ability to write their own electronic blogs, post to forums etc. Hopefully you will join us! Other interesting electronic related forums are: MSPDebug, Eclipse, KiCAD, KTechLab, MSPGCC, GCC, Programming Sections, C, C++, Java, Python, and a lot more! Develissimo is still in launching stage and it's waiting for you. Have a look at http://develissimo.com/ main page. best greetings and see you soon Raphael from develissimo.com ps.: if you like the idea of an open source electronic platform, please post a link from SDCC sourceforge.net to http://develissimo.com/forum/ as the official SDCC forum. Thank you! |
From: Kustaa N. <Kus...@pl...> - 2011-05-14 06:48:27
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On 5/14/11 09:38, "admin" <ad...@de...> wrote: >Hello SDCC-Community, > >There is a SDCC forum at: http://develissimo.com/forum/ >We want it to make it the "official SDCC forum". I, for one, do not want to make *that* the "official SDCC forum". This mailing list has served me well, I'm subscribing to this to receive what is happening with SDCC only, not everything remotely related. The list trafic is moderate and has not bothered me and I do not need to visit any site to keep up with what is going on. Just my view, but I am not going to 'go' *there*. br Kusti |
From: Richard G. <ri...@re...> - 2011-05-14 21:05:31
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I'm inclined to agree. This list isn't broken, so I cannot see the need to change just for change's sake. On Saturday 14 May 2011 07:47:46 Kustaa Nyholm wrote: > On 5/14/11 09:38, "admin" <ad...@de...> wrote: > >Hello SDCC-Community, > > > >There is a SDCC forum at: http://develissimo.com/forum/ > >We want it to make it the "official SDCC forum". > > I, for one, do not want to make *that* the "official SDCC forum". > > This mailing list has served me well, I'm subscribing to this > to receive what is happening with SDCC only, not everything remotely > related. > > The list trafic is moderate and has not bothered me and I do > not need to visit any site to keep up with what is going on. > > Just my view, but I am not going to 'go' *there*. > > br Kusti > <snip> -- Richard. PGP Key-id: 0x5AB3D350 This novel is not to be tossed lightly aside, but to be hurled with great force. -- Dorothy Parker |
From: Dave M. <mc...@ne...> - 2011-05-15 00:13:20
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On 5/14/11 4:49 PM, Richard Gray wrote: > I'm inclined to agree. This list isn't broken, so I cannot see the need to > change just for change's sake. Some people seem to want to turn the entire Internet into the World Wide Web...basically replacing everything, all protocols and network applications, with HTML on port 80 and dispensing with everything else. This is usually due to inexperience or unwillingness to learn about those other parts of the Internet, and a fear of unfamiliar things and the assumption that they're automatically "hard". They know a web browser, they start out thinking they're accessing "the Internet", in its entirety, with it. When they learn that there's a whole lot to the Internet other than the World-Wide Web, they want everything to move TO the WWW so they don't have to learn anything else. Personally, I try not to associate with those types of people. Since making that decision, I find my life is far more pleasant. -Dave -- Dave McGuire Port Charlotte, FL |
From: Mark R. <mar...@gm...> - 2011-05-14 06:58:27
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On Saturday, May 14, 2011, admin <ad...@de...> wrote: > Hello SDCC-Community, > > There is a SDCC forum at: http://develissimo.com/forum/ > We want it to make it the "official SDCC forum". Stop. Just stop this. You tried to do this with mspgcc, and were soundly rebuffed. Now you are going after the SDCC community as well. Please take your spam elsewhere -- and I don't mean another mailing list! Regards, Mark markrages@gmail -- Mark Rages, Engineer Midwest Telecine LLC mar...@mi... |
From: admin <ad...@de...> - 2011-05-14 07:59:54
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On Sat, 2011-05-14 at 01:58 -0500, Mark Rages wrote: > On Saturday, May 14, 2011, admin <ad...@de...> wrote: > > Hello SDCC-Community, > > > > There is a SDCC forum at: http://develissimo.com/forum/ > > We want it to make it the "official SDCC forum". > > You tried to do this with mspgcc... > Now you are going after the SDCC community as well. > > Regards, > Mark > markrages@gmail > > > Hello Mark, This is not part of a "dark plan". I love open source and i love to talk, share and work with open source. I have done a lot of projects, and i do work 100% with open source. I contribute to different projects and i really like it. And i do like forums and RSS feeds. So do other people... Not everyone is a fan of mailing-lists. I just wanted to inform you, i am working on a platform for open source electronic development. And hopefully a lot of people will like the idea. Sometimes i do receive up to 6000 mails per month from mailing lists :-). I think this is too much, and i think it's a security invulnerability to throw out ones email contact all over the net. (spam) But Mark you are right. We are just starting up with develissimo and there needs to be more interesting helpful information, so that people will enjoy to go and communicate there. Your message stops me from contacting you on the mailing-list to inform about the forums. In the future i will contact the core developers and if they like the idea the can forward it to their subscribers. Best greetings Mark I am sorry for taking your time Raphael |
From: Maarten B. <sou...@ds...> - 2011-05-14 10:10:43
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SDCC already has a forum on sourceforge. I see no reason to have another one at a location that has nothing to do with the project. Maarten > On Sat, 2011-05-14 at 01:58 -0500, Mark Rages wrote: > > On Saturday, May 14, 2011, admin <ad...@de...> wrote: > > > Hello SDCC-Community, > > > > > > There is a SDCC forum at: http://develissimo.com/forum/ > > > We want it to make it the "official SDCC forum". > > > > You tried to do this with mspgcc... > > Now you are going after the SDCC community as well. > > > > Regards, > > Mark > > markrages@gmail > > > > > > > > Hello Mark, > > This is not part of a "dark plan". I love open source and i love to > talk, share and work with open source. > I have done a lot of projects, and i do work 100% with open source. I > contribute to different projects and i really like it. > And i do like forums and RSS feeds. So do other people... Not everyone > is a fan of mailing-lists. > I just wanted to inform you, i am working on a platform for open source > electronic development. And hopefully a lot of people will like the > idea. > Sometimes i do receive up to 6000 mails per month from mailing > lists :-). I think this is too much, and i think it's a security > invulnerability to throw out ones email contact all over the net. (spam) > > But Mark you are right. We are just starting up with develissimo and > there needs to be more interesting helpful information, so that people > will enjoy to go and communicate there. > Your message stops me from contacting you on the mailing-list to inform > about the forums. > In the future i will contact the core developers and if they like the > idea the can forward it to their subscribers. > > > Best greetings Mark > I am sorry for taking your time > Raphael > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Achieve unprecedented app performance and reliability > What every C/C++ and Fortran developer should know. > Learn how Intel has extended the reach of its next-generation tools > to help boost performance applications - inlcuding clusters. > http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-dev2devmay > _______________________________________________ > Sdcc-user mailing list > Sdc...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/sdcc-user > |
From: Bodo W. <bod...@we...> - 2011-05-14 14:11:42
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As one just reading this list and not contributing anything, presumably I'm one of the targeted audience. And as such: > SDCC already has a forum on sourceforge. I see no reason to have > another one at a location that has nothing to do with the project. Me too. Bodo |
From: Sébastien L. <sq...@gm...> - 2011-05-14 15:41:07
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same here sebastien On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 4:10 PM, Bodo Wenzel <bod...@we...> wrote: > As one just reading this list and not contributing anything, presumably > I'm one of the targeted audience. And as such: > > > SDCC already has a forum on sourceforge. I see no reason to have > > another one at a location that has nothing to do with the project. > Me too. > > Bodo > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Achieve unprecedented app performance and reliability > What every C/C++ and Fortran developer should know. > Learn how Intel has extended the reach of its next-generation tools > to help boost performance applications - inlcuding clusters. > http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-dev2devmay > _______________________________________________ > Sdcc-user mailing list > Sdc...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/sdcc-user > |
From: Borut R. <bor...@gm...> - 2011-05-14 16:56:29
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Me also. Borut On 05/14/2011 05:40 PM, Sébastien Lorquet wrote: > same here > > sebastien > > On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 4:10 PM, Bodo Wenzel <bod...@we... > <mailto:bod...@we...>> wrote: > > As one just reading this list and not contributing anything, > presumably > I'm one of the targeted audience. And as such: > > > SDCC already has a forum on sourceforge. I see no reason to have > > another one at a location that has nothing to do with the project. > Me too. > > Bodo > |
From: Daniel R. <dan...@it...> - 2011-05-14 15:54:34
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same here as well. may be a detail, but i am really bothered by the "official" qualifier claimed by the initiator. To me this is simply abuse! Daniel Sébastien Lorquet a écrit : > same here > > sebastien > > On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 4:10 PM, Bodo Wenzel <bod...@we... > <mailto:bod...@we...>> wrote: > > As one just reading this list and not contributing anything, > presumably > I'm one of the targeted audience. And as such: > > > SDCC already has a forum on sourceforge. I see no reason to have > > another one at a location that has nothing to do with the project. > Me too. > > Bodo > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Achieve unprecedented app performance and reliability > What every C/C++ and Fortran developer should know. > Learn how Intel has extended the reach of its next-generation tools > to help boost performance applications - inlcuding clusters. > http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-dev2devmay > _______________________________________________ > Sdcc-user mailing list > Sdc...@li... > <mailto:Sdc...@li...> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/sdcc-user > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Achieve unprecedented app performance and reliability > What every C/C++ and Fortran developer should know. > Learn how Intel has extended the reach of its next-generation tools > to help boost performance applications - inlcuding clusters. > http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-dev2devmay > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Sdcc-user mailing list > Sdc...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/sdcc-user > |
From: Michelle K. <lin...@ta...> - 2011-05-14 16:05:52
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Hello admin, Am 2011-05-14 08:38:14, hacktest Du folgendes herunter: > Hopefully you will join us! 1- Web forums are non reliabel and slow... And if needed, PMs can also send here... Thanks, Greetings and nice Day/Evening Michelle Konzack -- ##################### Debian GNU/Linux Consultant ###################### Development of Intranet and Embedded Systems with Debian GNU/Linux itsystems@tdnet France EURL itsystems@tdnet UG (limited liability) Owner Michelle Konzack Owner Michelle Konzack Apt. 917 (homeoffice) 50, rue de Soultz Kinzigstraße 17 67100 Strasbourg/France 77694 Kehl/Germany Tel: +33-6-61925193 mobil Tel: +49-177-9351947 mobil Tel: +49-176-86004575 office <http://www.itsystems.tamay-dogan.net/> <http://www.flexray4linux.org/> <http://www.debian.tamay-dogan.net/> <http://www.can4linux.org/> Jabber lin...@ja... ICQ #328449886 Linux-User #280138 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org/ |
From: Dave M. <mc...@ne...> - 2011-05-15 00:13:21
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On 5/14/11 3:59 AM, admin wrote: >>> There is a SDCC forum at: http://develissimo.com/forum/ >>> We want it to make it the "official SDCC forum". >> >> You tried to do this with mspgcc... >> Now you are going after the SDCC community as well. > > This is not part of a "dark plan". I love open source and i love to > talk, share and work with open source. > I have done a lot of projects, and i do work 100% with open source. I > contribute to different projects and i really like it. > And i do like forums and RSS feeds. So do other people... Not everyone > is a fan of mailing-lists. Actually, most people are. Especially most clueful people. I've seen upwards of a dozen good and useful communities DIE because some weenie decided it was a good idea to turn them into a web forum. In practice, this is almost never a good idea, and over the years it has almost never been successful. In fact, I can't think of a single instance in which it has EVER been successful. > Sometimes i do receive up to 6000 mails per month from mailing > lists :-). I think this is too much, and i think it's a security > invulnerability to throw out ones email contact all over the net. (spam) Then spend more time *reading* those lists, because spam is not a security problem, it is an inconvenience and an annoyance. Hmm, much like web forums. Your solution is to either sort your inbound email more effectively, or unsubscribe from some lists until your volume is more manageable. Don't try to make YOUR email volume issues everyone else's problem by mucking about with a proven, established, and well-liked community format. -Dave -- Dave McGuire Port Charlotte, FL |
From: Michelle K. <lin...@ta...> - 2011-05-15 09:48:09
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Hello Dave McGuire, Am 2011-05-14 19:55:40, hacktest Du folgendes herunter: > Actually, most people are. Especially most clueful people. I've > seen upwards of a dozen good and useful communities DIE because some > weenie decided it was a good idea to turn them into a web forum. 1+ If the List was mirrored into a Forum, it is another thing, but a Forum without connection to the List us useless. However, I know MANY forums which habe been hijacked by spamers because it as more easier then spaming around spamassassinand bayesian. :-D > In practice, this is almost never a good idea, and over the years it > has almost never been successful. > > In fact, I can't think of a single instance in which it has EVER been > successful. ;-) Currently I am coding a forum which is generaly something like Squrrelmail but relay on Mailinglists... So, it generaly works with any mailinglist software... > > Sometimes i do receive up to 6000 mails per month from mailing > > lists :-). This is, what I get in 2-3 days... without the LKM list, but I am also on the <linux-arm-kernel> list which drop daily 250 messages into your box. You have to use your brain to handel such traffic... otherwise do not subscribe and blame others. > > I think this is too much, and i think it's a security > > invulnerability to throw out ones email contact all over the net. (spam) > > Then spend more time *reading* those lists, because spam is not a > security problem, it is an inconvenience and an annoyance. 1+ But while Forums must be monitored manualy, 99.9% of spamfiltering on list happen automatic. I think on <lists.debian.org> because peoples complaining about one spam per week but if the listmasters would deactivate the spamfilters the list would have 4-8 times more spam as legit messages. :-/ > Hmm, much like web forums. > > Your solution is to either sort your inbound email more effectively, > or unsubscribe from some lists until your volume is more manageable. > Don't try to make YOUR email volume issues everyone else's problem by > mucking about with a proven, established, and well-liked community format. 1+ However, this list is a VERY low-traffic one... Thanks, Greetings and nice Day/Evening Michelle Konzack -- ##################### Debian GNU/Linux Consultant ###################### Development of Intranet and Embedded Systems with Debian GNU/Linux itsystems@tdnet France EURL itsystems@tdnet UG (limited liability) Owner Michelle Konzack Owner Michelle Konzack Apt. 917 (homeoffice) 50, rue de Soultz Kinzigstraße 17 67100 Strasbourg/France 77694 Kehl/Germany Tel: +33-6-61925193 mobil Tel: +49-177-9351947 mobil Tel: +49-176-86004575 office <http://www.itsystems.tamay-dogan.net/> <http://www.flexray4linux.org/> <http://www.debian.tamay-dogan.net/> <http://www.can4linux.org/> Jabber lin...@ja... ICQ #328449886 Linux-User #280138 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org/ |
From: Alain M. <al...@po...> - 2011-05-16 16:02:00
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Em 14-05-2011 03:38, admin escreveu: > Hello SDCC-Community, > > There is a SDCC forum at: http://develissimo.com/forum/ > We want it to make it the "official SDCC forum". I hope not!!! Forums take a lot of time to follow, I participate in too many lists. I would spend the whole day opening all those forums... This like most forums have lots of fancy features, but not the only realy important one: full list integration ALain |
From: Alain M. <al...@po...> - 2011-05-16 16:26:43
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I am amazed how some people step in with lots of good intentions willing to modify existing comunities without asking for opinions... Alain PS: sorry for the double post, I could not figure what happened... Em 16-05-2011 13:01, Alain Mouette escreveu: > > Em 14-05-2011 03:38, admin escreveu: >> Hello SDCC-Community, >> >> There is a SDCC forum at: http://develissimo.com/forum/ >> We want it to make it the "official SDCC forum". > > I hope not!!! Forums take a lot of time to follow, I participate in too > many lists. I would spend the whole day opening all those forums... > > This like most forums have lots of fancy features, but not the only > realy important one: full list integration > > ALain > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Achieve unprecedented app performance and reliability > What every C/C++ and Fortran developer should know. > Learn how Intel has extended the reach of its next-generation tools > to help boost performance applications - inlcuding clusters. > http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-dev2devmay > _______________________________________________ > Sdcc-user mailing list > Sdc...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/sdcc-user > > |
From: Sébastien L. <sq...@gm...> - 2011-05-16 16:37:03
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On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 6:26 PM, Alain Mouette <al...@po...> wrote: > I am amazed how some people step in with lots of good intentions willing > to modify existing comunities without asking for opinions... > > Alain > Not to mention the fact that the proposed "official" forum has an average of one "welcome" post in each section. This is enough to demonstrate the well-establishedness and popularity of this official forum ;-) ;-) Sebastien |