From: Terry P. <tp...@gr...> - 2000-04-06 01:43:26
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Hi all, This is a general email from myself, concerning the large number of complaints lately, concerning SDCC and S51. To those who have posted in this manner, I wonder if you're aware that both these programs have been written by the authors in their own FREE time, they receive no money for this and have given us these programs for free. Both programs are in their development phase, and will have "bugs" for a long time. I feel that we should take time out to thank Sandeep and Daniel (and all others concerned, forgive me if I don't know your names) for their work, that has given us such fine tools. If someone has a complaint about docs, let *him* write some and then submit them, these apps won't ever be finished without lots of help, and it's unfair to just hassle the authors every time we have a problem. If you've come from a DOS world, things are different here in Free Software land, first you help yourself, then you politely ask for the authors help, and thank him for his work. Free software authors like this kind of email in increasing order of preference. 1/ Hi thanks for the cool software, I've found a bug 2/ Hi thanks for the cool software, I've found a bug, and here's the fix 3/ Hi thanks for the cool software, I've found a bug, and here's the fix, and a *patch* for it. These are just a few, suggestions, my opinions only... I'd hate Sandeep or Daniel to have a stroke over the burden of demands for help, because they dare to release new versions of their software. Thank you Sandeep and Daniel, you guys rule..... Kind Regards Terry -- **** To reach me, use tjp...@od... **** My Desktop is powered by GNU/Linux, and has been up 3 days 14 hours 38 minutes ** homepage http://www.odyssey.apana.org.au/~tjporter ** |
From: Victoria W. <vi...@no...> - 2000-04-06 02:27:52
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Terry Porter wrote: > Hi all, > > This is a general email from myself, concerning the large number of > complaints lately, concerning SDCC and S51. > > To those who have posted in this manner, I wonder if you're aware that > both these programs have been written by the authors in their own FREE > time, they receive no money for this and have given us these programs for > free. > > Both programs are in their development phase, and will have "bugs" for a > long time. Hear! Hear! :-) Adding my thanks for a rather thankless and difficult task that you guys on the development team are doing and sharing so freely with us, I am *well* aware that you are not required to do so. I know I could be stuck with going out and shelling out lots of $$$$ for a commercial version which might or might not work better :-). THANKs! And doing the same (basic :-) kind of work, I understand the effort Y'all put in and for such an early relase, it is a FINE piece of work and given some time, encouragement and assistance this is going to turn out to be one fine tool which I am sure will be better than commercial offerings. Already worth a lot more than it costs :-). I don't know what I can do to assist in getting this finished, but freeware, as Terry notes, is a TEAM effort. If anyone on the design team wants to look at my resume and make suggestions in the "what can I do to contribute to this fine effort", please do and discuss it with me, if I can, I will lend my efforts to the project. I'd rather share some effort rather than just take and bitch :-/. Besides, if I get involved in this, I might expand my horizons :-). Love win-win-win situations :-)!! Again, my thanks to the design team for the fine work and your graciousness in sharing! Take care, Vikki. > > I feel that we should take time out to thank Sandeep and Daniel (and all > others concerned, forgive me if I don't know your names) for their work, > that has given us such fine tools. > > If someone has a complaint about docs, let *him* write some and then > submit them, these apps won't ever be finished without lots of help, and > it's unfair to just hassle the authors every time we have a problem. > > If you've come from a DOS world, things are different here in Free > Software land, first you help yourself, then you politely ask for the > authors help, and thank him for his work. > > Free software authors like this kind of email in increasing order of > preference. > > 1/ Hi thanks for the cool software, I've found a bug > 2/ Hi thanks for the cool software, I've found a bug, and here's the fix > 3/ Hi thanks for the cool software, I've found a bug, and here's the fix, > and a *patch* for it. > > These are just a few, suggestions, my opinions only... > > I'd hate Sandeep or Daniel to have a stroke over the burden of demands for > help, because they dare to release new versions of their software. > > > Thank you Sandeep and Daniel, you guys rule..... > > Kind Regards > Terry > -- > **** To reach me, use tjp...@od... **** > My Desktop is powered by GNU/Linux, and has been > up 3 days 14 hours 38 minutes > ** homepage http://www.odyssey.apana.org.au/~tjporter ** > > _______________________________________________ > Sdcc-user mailing list > Sdc...@li... > http://lists.sourceforge.net/mailman/listinfo/sdcc-user -- Victoria Welch, WV9K, DoD#-13, Net/Sys/WebAdmin SeaStar.org, vikki.oz.net #include <coffee.h> My web site: http://vikki.oz.net/~vikki/ "Walking on water and developing software to specification are easy as long as both are frozen" - Edward V. Berard. Do not unto others, that which you would not have others do unto you. |
From: Michal S. <st...@lu...> - 2000-04-06 06:02:11
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Hi, first I vant to apologize my english and Thanks everybody in this mailing list. They doing absolutly great work. But do you think that sending my core stories and pointing to bugs is wrong and I should do it no more? What this mailing list would be for? (uf what a complicated sentence...probably (99%) is wrong... :-) Mikee And thanks again for cool software..... On Thu, 6 Apr 2000, Terry Porter wrote: > Hi all, > > This is a general email from myself, concerning the large number of > complaints lately, concerning SDCC and S51. > > To those who have posted in this manner, I wonder if you're aware that > both these programs have been written by the authors in their own FREE > time, they receive no money for this and have given us these programs for > free. > > Both programs are in their development phase, and will have "bugs" for a > long time. > > I feel that we should take time out to thank Sandeep and Daniel (and all > others concerned, forgive me if I don't know your names) for their work, > that has given us such fine tools. > > If someone has a complaint about docs, let *him* write some and then > submit them, these apps won't ever be finished without lots of help, and > it's unfair to just hassle the authors every time we have a problem. > > If you've come from a DOS world, things are different here in Free > Software land, first you help yourself, then you politely ask for the > authors help, and thank him for his work. > > Free software authors like this kind of email in increasing order of > preference. > > 1/ Hi thanks for the cool software, I've found a bug > 2/ Hi thanks for the cool software, I've found a bug, and here's the fix > 3/ Hi thanks for the cool software, I've found a bug, and here's the fix, > and a *patch* for it. > > > These are just a few, suggestions, my opinions only... > > I'd hate Sandeep or Daniel to have a stroke over the burden of demands for > help, because they dare to release new versions of their software. > > > Thank you Sandeep and Daniel, you guys rule..... > > > Kind Regards > Terry > -- > **** To reach me, use tjp...@od... **** > My Desktop is powered by GNU/Linux, and has been > up 3 days 14 hours 38 minutes > ** homepage http://www.odyssey.apana.org.au/~tjporter ** > > > _______________________________________________ > Sdcc-user mailing list > Sdc...@li... > http://lists.sourceforge.net/mailman/listinfo/sdcc-user > |
From: Daniel D. <dr...@ma...> - 2000-04-06 07:25:36
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On Thu, 6 Apr 2000, Michal Strelec wrote: > But do you think that sending my core stories and pointing to bugs is > wrong and I should do it no more? Please continue to do it. We definitely need testers and _users_! It is impossible to discover all bugs just be the developer... Daniel |