Re: [sdcc-devel] [sdcc:patches] #477 Patch to update the MSVC solution + project files to MSVC2022

[Steve S. <ste...@gm...>]

(removing the ticket email address, as it's more relevant to devel@ anyway)

While I do not want to start any hosting holy wars, here is my own food for
thought.
I also promise I won't discuss more than this email unless someone asks
something about it :-)

I would argue that no-one knows codeberg, even less so about this
initiative.
If the real purpose is to make it easier for anyone to contribute, I'd
argue that the network effect would be
much bigger if we leverage github, as imperfect as it may be.

My point is more "either move to git on SF.net or directly bite the bullet
and move towards github".
Using an obscure hosting will just add more obscurity to this already
obscure SDCC project ;-).

I mean, many use sdcc without knowing it, but contributing to it is rather
unappealing for newcomers.
That fact may be wanted. Then let's not change anything, SVN is perfectly
fine. Or do we want to attract more
casual contributors such as me that we might convert to long term ones? For
that, one cannot really fight
against github, or at least gitlab if you really want to avoid github,
because in the end, it's all about the "network effect".

Using the mailing lists is something I don't do as much as before, and
feels now much less natural to me,
especially if that's the only way to interact with other fellow devs.

But since I'm interested (while not skilled) I did force myself to it since
SF.net isn't exactly unknown either.
Not super modern, but not unknown.

Yet I won't create yet another account on codeberg, which I don't have a
clue on who is owning it, and I won't really
bother to be honest. Yet, as said, I might not be the target of wanted
contributors.

Cheers,
--
Steve Schnepp


On Fri, Apr 5, 2024 at 1:30 PM Felix Salfelder <fe...@sa...> wrote:

> On Fri, Apr 05, 2024 at 12:54:21PM +0200, Steve Schnepp wrote:
> > My naive question is "why another git hoster?" can't we leverage the
> SF.net
> > git repo ?
> > I do not have much issues with SF.net hosting outside that it uses SVN
> ;-)
>
> Here's some food for thought.
>
> Without write permissions you can't use a git repo to share patches.
> Codeberg allows private clones as a kind of workaround for this, and has
> a "clone repo" button that streamlines the use.
>
> Also, in order to get in touch with SDCC devs via sf, you need to accept
> sf terms and conditions and privacy policy. This is not needed when
> using codeberg.
>
> I would expect the mailing list to accept messages from non-subscribers,
> and allows attachments. Note how this will only help contributors
> willing and able to deal with patches manually, and also use email.
>
> cheers
> felix
>
>
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