From: Borut R. <bor...@si...> - 2008-07-21 19:32:10
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Hello Alan, Ernst Stippl forward me your response. I tried to contact you several times but haven't receive an answer from you. Did you receive any of mails I sent you? > Ernst, > > I am sorry for the delay in responding to your email. > > I anticipate that the next release of the ASxxxx Assemblers and Linker > will be licensed under the GNU GPL. The time table has not been set, but > will probably be within 6-8 months. this is a great news! But this won't solve the problem of asxxxx fork which is included in sdcc. A possible solution would be to totally replace the sdcc asxxxx version with the new official GPL one, but I think this is not feasible since many sdcc specific changes were made in the sdcc asxxxx... So I'm asking you to give us a permission to change the license of asxxxx fork included in sdcc to GPL too. Borut Borut Razem wrote: > Hello Ernst, > > this is a great news! > > The Alan's response is very important for all SDCC developers too, so > please send it to sdcc-devel mailing list or/and add it to the > https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=350599&aid=1896681&group_id=599 > tracker. > > I'll write a new letter for Alan, aking him if he agree to change the > license of sdcc asxxxx fork to GPL too. This way we could release > GPL-ed sdcc asxxxx in the next sdcc release. Other way we will have to > reapply all changes, which were done for sdcc asxxxx, to the new > Alan's asxxxx version, which is not a trivial job and will take a lot > of time. > > I still don't get if Alan received my letters or not and why he didn't > answer me. I'll ask you to forward him my letter again. I'll send you > the letter in next few days. > > Thank you, > Borut > > > Ernst Stippl wrote: >> Hi Borut! >> >> I just received this answer from Alan. >> >> What do you think how to continue? >> >> Regards >> Ernst >> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- >> Von: BALDWIN, ALAN [mailto:ba...@ke...] Gesendet: Montag, 16. >> Juni 2008 22:46 >> An: er...@st... >> Betreff: RE: possible License terms for ASxxxx and ASlink for use in >> SDCC >> >> Ernst, >> >> I am sorry for the delay in responding to your email. >> >> I anticipate that the next release of the ASxxxx Assemblers and Linker >> will be licensed under the GNU GPL. The time table has not been set, >> but >> will probably be within 6-8 months. >> >> Alan >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Ernst Stippl [mailto:er...@st...] >> Sent: Friday, May 30, 2008 5:31 AM >> To: ba...@sh... >> Cc: bor...@si... >> Subject: possible License terms for ASxxxx and ASlink for use in SDCC >> >> Hello Alan! >> >> You may remember we had a brief mail exchange a few month ago about the >> possibility of licenssing Asxxxx version 4 fur usage with SDCC. >> >> Back then you wrote: >> >> >> quote >> I would gladly give permission to merge portions of ASxxxx V4.xx into >> the >> SDCC project. I probably could be persuaded to allow the merged >> parts to be >> licensed under the GNU license. >> At this time however I have not determine the future licensing terms >> for the >> full ASxxxx Assembler package. >> Unquote >> >> So I contacted the SDCC development team and Mr. Borut Razem tried to >> contacted you. Unfortunately, these mails may not have reached you, >> so I was >> asked to contact you again and forward Borut's message (see below) to >> you. >> >> We would be very happy if you find the time (and interest, of course) >> to let >> us know if and how there is a possibility to proceed. >> >> Thanks again and Best Regards Ernst Stippl >> Vienna, Austria >> >> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- >> Von: Borut Razem [mailto:bor...@si...] >> Gesendet: Samstag, 23. Februar 2008 19:02 >> An: ba...@sh...; Sdcc-Devel >> Cc: Ernst Stippl >> Betreff: RE: License terms for ASxxxx and ASlink >> >> Hello Alan, >> >> I'm Borut Razem and I'm working as a developer on sdcc project since >> 2002. >> I saw the mail Ernst Stippl sent you and your response, so I'm >> writing to >> you in the name of SDCC developers. >> >> I'm author of the "SDCC AS and LINK history" web page at >> http://sdcc.wiki.sourceforge.net/SDCC+AS+and+LINK+history. I wrote it >> using >> information I could find in the sdcc svn repository and on ASxxxx >> home page. >> >> > I would gladly give permission to merge portions of ASxxxx V4.xx >> into the >> SDCC project. >> >> Sdcc is actually using only a part of ASxxxx: >> - asx8051 and aslink which supports also DS390 and DS400 >> - as-z80, and link-z80 and as-gbz80, link-gbz80 >> - as-hc08 and link-hc08 >> >> My idea is to gradually re-merge both ASxxxx and SDCC branches. I >> doubt that >> this can be done in short term, maybe it won't happen at all, but at >> least >> we could share bug fixes and new features could be implemented on both >> branches. >> >> > I probably could be persuaded to allow the merged parts to be >> licensed >> under the GNU license. >> >> This is not our requirement to license ASxxxx under the GNU license, >> since >> the sdcc version of ASxxxx is still using the old pre-4.0 "public domain >> license". But you would probably have to change the ASxxxx license or >> make >> an exception for use with sdcc. >> >> The statement "It is forbidden to distribute this software should this >> file, or any of the remaining files, change in any way or be omitted >> from >> the archive" makes it impossible to use (a part of) ASxxxx 4.0 or >> newer with >> sdcc, since the code used with sdcc is changed and not full package is >> distributed with sdcc. >> >> You should be aware that if you give a special permission to sdcc >> project to >> reuse the code from ASxxxx and the sdcc asxxxx will remain in "public >> domain", someone could take the merged code from sdcc repository and >> use it >> in closed source and/or commercial product without any (not even moral) >> obligations to you as the original ASxxxx author or to sdcc asxxxx >> project >> team. >> >> > At this time however I have not determine the future licensing >> terms for >> the full ASxxxx Assembler package. >> >> You probably have personal reasons why not to use one of Free Open >> Source >> Software licenses (GPL is just one of many). But if you have any >> question or >> need any help to bring the package to open source (creating a source >> code >> repository, ...), I'd be honored to help you. >> >> > I don't know if Sandeep Dutta is actively involved in the SDCC >> project >> (he originally asked to use the ASxxxx and ASlink package) or if someone >> else would like to discuss the options. Since I have never been an >> active >> participant in the SDCC project I don't have any contacts with the SDCC >> group. >> >> Sandeep Dutta is not actively involved in the SDCC project any more. His >> last registered change is from 2002-03-16 (information from sdcc >> ChangeLog). >> I'm glad to hear that you agreed about ASxxxx and ASlink usage with >> sdcc, >> which means we are not doing enything illegal by using it. If you >> want to >> get in contact with other sdcc developers, you can write a mail to >> sdcc-devel mailig list at sdc...@li.... >> >> Sincerely Yours, >> Borut >> > > |