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[Scwm-devs] testing of window manager hint options

[Scott L. <sl...@cs...>]

I still haven't been able to test the window manager hint stuff
since I have found a way to display the options that I can
understand.  I can get stuff from xprop like this:

850> xprop
WM_STATE(WM_STATE):
                window state: Normal
                icon window: 0x80015b
_MOTIF_WM_HINTS(_MOTIF_WM_HINTS) = 0x2, 0xbffffc84, 0x0, 0x8186fb0, 0x810f83c
XdndAware(ATOM) = ARC
_MOTIF_DRAG_RECEIVER_INFO(_MOTIF_DRAG_RECEIVER_INFO) = 0x6c, 0x0, 0x5, 0x40, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x18, 0x40, 0x10, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0
WM_CLASS(STRING) = "XMMS_Playlist", "xmms"
WM_LOCALE_NAME(STRING) = "en_US"
WM_CLIENT_MACHINE(STRING) = "strider"
WM_ICON_NAME(STRING) = "XMMS Playlist"
WM_NAME(STRING) = "XMMS Playlist"
WM_CLIENT_LEADER(WINDOW): window id # 0x2a00001
WM_HINTS(WM_HINTS):
                Client accepts input or input focus: True
                Initial state is Normal State.
                window id # of group leader: 0x2a00001
WM_NORMAL_HINTS(WM_SIZE_HINTS):
                program specified minimum size: 275 by 319
                program specified maximum size: 275 by 319
WM_PROTOCOLS(ATOM): protocols  WM_DELETE_WINDOW, WM_TAKE_FOCUS
WM_TRANSIENT_FOR(WINDOW): window id # 0x2a0001a


I thought I would look at the Motif hints first since they seem to
be the most common, but I haven't been able to find anything that
documents what

_MOTIF_WM_HINTS(_MOTIF_WM_HINTS) = 0x2, 0xbffffc84, 0x0, 0x8186fb0, 0x810f83c

means.  I've looked on Google a while but didn't find anything particularly
useful.  Any hints?

- Scott

[Scwm-devs] Re: testing of window manager hint options

[Jason L. <low...@ea...>]

The contents of the MOTIF_WM_HINTS atom is a C struct, which is defined
in /usr/X11R6/include/Xm/MwmUtil.h as the struct "MotifWmHints". It's
basically 5 ints that represent various bit-masked flags.

By the way... I'm right in the middle of changing jobs, so my schedule
is again in turmoil. I had been doing all my scwm stuff on my work
laptop, which I have to return at the end of this week. I just bought a
new laptop of my own to replace it and loaded Skipjack (Redhat 7.3 beta)
from ISO's, so now I'm going to spend some time getting everything I
need installed and configured (including scwm). And then in 2 weeks I'll
be repeating this on my new work computer at my new job. *sigh*

Later,

Jason

On Mon, 2002-04-08 at 21:04, Scott Lenser wrote:
> 
> I still haven't been able to test the window manager hint stuff
> since I have found a way to display the options that I can
> understand.  I can get stuff from xprop like this:
> 
> 850> xprop
> WM_STATE(WM_STATE):
>                 window state: Normal
>                 icon window: 0x80015b
> _MOTIF_WM_HINTS(_MOTIF_WM_HINTS) = 0x2, 0xbffffc84, 0x0, 0x8186fb0, 0x810f83c
> XdndAware(ATOM) = ARC
> _MOTIF_DRAG_RECEIVER_INFO(_MOTIF_DRAG_RECEIVER_INFO) = 0x6c, 0x0, 0x5, 0x40, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0, 0x18, 0x40, 0x10, 0x0, 0x0, 0x0
> WM_CLASS(STRING) = "XMMS_Playlist", "xmms"
> WM_LOCALE_NAME(STRING) = "en_US"
> WM_CLIENT_MACHINE(STRING) = "strider"
> WM_ICON_NAME(STRING) = "XMMS Playlist"
> WM_NAME(STRING) = "XMMS Playlist"
> WM_CLIENT_LEADER(WINDOW): window id # 0x2a00001
> WM_HINTS(WM_HINTS):
>                 Client accepts input or input focus: True
>                 Initial state is Normal State.
>                 window id # of group leader: 0x2a00001
> WM_NORMAL_HINTS(WM_SIZE_HINTS):
>                 program specified minimum size: 275 by 319
>                 program specified maximum size: 275 by 319
> WM_PROTOCOLS(ATOM): protocols  WM_DELETE_WINDOW, WM_TAKE_FOCUS
> WM_TRANSIENT_FOR(WINDOW): window id # 0x2a0001a
> 
> 
> I thought I would look at the Motif hints first since they seem to
> be the most common, but I haven't been able to find anything that
> documents what
> 
> _MOTIF_WM_HINTS(_MOTIF_WM_HINTS) = 0x2, 0xbffffc84, 0x0, 0x8186fb0, 0x810f83c
> 
> means.  I've looked on Google a while but didn't find anything particularly
> useful.  Any hints?
> 
> - Scott
> 
> 

[Scwm-devs] Re: done testing style.scm (mostly) (help needed)

[Scott L. <sl...@cs...>]

Ah, cool.  I didn't know about xprop.
Also, I just looked at it looks like I might be able to
use 'X-get-property' plus some extra code to find all the
properties.

Thanks.

- Scott

> The only way I know to see what hints an app has set is to use xprop to
> look at the window's properties. For example the mwm hints go into an
> atom called MOTIF_WM_HINTS. You might be able to tell from the code
> exactly what atoms correspond to each of those hints. I'll take a look
> at some of the apps on my system to see if I come across any of the
> one's you're looking for.
> 
> Jason
> 
> On Thu, 2002-04-04 at 00:53, Scott Lenser wrote:
> > 
> > I've mostly finished testing style.scm.  Ugh, this file is
> > annoying :-(.  I wasn't able to test the following functions
> > because I need to find apps that set the hints and I don't know
> > how to check reasonably easily whether an app uses these hints
> > and I don't know which apps set this hints.  This is where the
> > help comes in.  I need to find apps that set these hints.  If you
> > know of such apps I can just use them.  If you know how to
> > check what hints an app has set I can look through a lot of apps
> > that seem likely to be setting hints until I find ones to use
> > to test these hints.
> > 
> > The untested hint stuff is:
> > 
> > #:hint-override, #:mwm-decor-hint, #:mwm-func-hint,
> > #:PPosition-hint, #:OL-decor-hint, #:lenience
> > 

Re: [Scwm-devs] Re: testing of window manager hint options

[Scott L. <sl...@cs...>]

> The contents of the MOTIF_WM_HINTS atom is a C struct, which is defined
> in /usr/X11R6/include/Xm/MwmUtil.h as the struct "MotifWmHints". It's
> basically 5 ints that represent various bit-masked flags.
> 
> Later,
> 
> Jason
> 

Ah, great!  Now I can test the motif stuff at least.  This documentation
makes sense to me.

- Scott