[Scope-dev] Re: [jdistro-devel] Where do we go ?

[Guillaume D. <gui...@de...>]

Hello,

Christian Heller wrote:
> (Again a cross-posting ... but this is an important integration issue.
> I think we all develop and develop but inter-communicate too little.)

I agree.

> JDistro:
> - Did you try to build on JOS or to integrate it into your distribution?

No. I'm very interesting in a JavaOS. But right now, the focus in on two 
subprojects: the desktop and the launcher.

> All:
> - Do you try to steadily improve your architectures ?

Yes. But the constraints are quite strong. We want JDistro:
- to run on a standard JVM
- to run java applications unchanged
- to be swing-based

 > and to be open for new, effective ideas?

Yes. But I believe more in new, effective code. Software ideas are great 
only when they are practical and implemented ;-)

> - Are you fixed on Java only or open to replace it wherever it turns
> out not to be the ideal solution?

I'm fixed on it. Not on the language itself but on the platform. The JVM 
and the java APIs are the fundation of the project. Considering that, 
the language itself can be changed, using jython, jruby, smalleiffel, ...

> Concrete for JDistro:
> - If the Desktop runs fine as it is, then just release your 1.0!

My personnal opinion is it's not ready to be tagged as 1.0. There is 
still some modules to improve. Maybe this year.

> - Knoppix is a good idea; I think JOS was thinking about the same?

Yes. If someone is interrested, it would be great to build a knoppix 
with a JRE, JDistro and a set of apps.

> - You mention a "JDistro library so that applications can be developed"
> which sounds much like an "application framework" to me.

Right now, there isn't. Our application framework is the standard java APIs.

> - The "virtual File System" is truely a duplication effort since JOS
> as potential operating system has developed one, too.

Any link about it ? When I searched the web about VFS written in Java, I 
found a few but none was transparent. All require to change your app. 
That's why I started the JDistro one.

Guillaume