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From: Maksim G. <ma...@gm...> - 2015-05-04 23:48:16
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What does the order that we learn something have anything to do with this? Whenever I do a SQL query where I need to see the latest few rows, I do order by time desc, and when I open my games list, I want the latest one at the top, not the bottom. I don't care about the game I played 2 years ago when I started recording my games. I don't know about any standards to have old stuff be shown to you as more important. On Mon, May 4, 2015 at 5:58 PM, <sci...@li...> wrote: > Send Scidvspc-users mailing list submissions to > sci...@li... > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/scidvspc-users > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > sci...@li... > > You can reach the person managing the list at > sci...@li... > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Scidvspc-users digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Scidvspc-users Digest, Vol 41, Issue 1 (Maksim Grinman) > 2. Re: Scidvspc-users Digest, Vol 41, Issue 1 (Valente Silva) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 4 May 2015 10:55:22 -0400 > From: Maksim Grinman <ma...@gm...> > Subject: Re: [Scidvspc-users] Scidvspc-users Digest, Vol 41, Issue 1 > To: scidvspc mailing list <sci...@li...> > Message-ID: > <CAG...@ma...> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > It's a matter of defaults. Maybe I'm alone in this, but when you open a > games file, say your pgn of blitz games online, don't you want it to open > with the most recent games on top? > On May 4, 2015 8:00 AM, <sci...@li...> > wrote: > >> Send Scidvspc-users mailing list submissions to >> sci...@li... >> >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/scidvspc-users >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >> sci...@li... >> >> You can reach the person managing the list at >> sci...@li... >> >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >> than "Re: Contents of Scidvspc-users digest..." >> >> >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. Game list default ordering (Maksim Grinman) >> 2. Re: Game list default ordering (Steve A) >> 3. Re: Game list default ordering (Maksim Grinman) >> 4. Re: Game list default ordering (Valente Silva) >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Sun, 3 May 2015 14:45:57 -0400 >> From: Maksim Grinman <ma...@gm...> >> Subject: [Scidvspc-users] Game list default ordering >> To: scidvspc mailing list <sci...@li...> >> Message-ID: >> <CAGRtvOcfH_fBbfU_SVLZNEPEYL2X_DBhABbOQzahym0efDAb= >> g...@ma...> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 >> >> Is there a way to specify the default ordering of newly opened game >> list to be date desc? >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 2 >> Date: Mon, 4 May 2015 06:51:47 +1000 >> From: Steve A <ste...@gm...> >> Subject: Re: [Scidvspc-users] Game list default ordering >> To: Maksim Grinman <ma...@gm...>, scidvspc-users >> <sci...@li...> >> Message-ID: >> <CAKDNZpFi82oj5vzdUvmxDM9aaA65jjjgSOt-6afKX_sPxP+F= >> w...@ma...> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 >> >> Once a database is sorted, it is always that way. >> (Though this does not apply to pgn files or read-only databases). >> If you sort by date, after re-opening the database it will still be >> sorted, but the little triangle on the date column heading will not be >> shown. >> See the sort help topics. >> >> Alternatively , you may also wish to set a database to autoload the >> last game (Maintenance window->Autoload game) >> >> S.A. >> >> On Mon, May 4, 2015 at 4:45 AM, Maksim Grinman <ma...@gm...> wrote: >> > Is there a way to specify the default ordering of newly opened game >> > list to be date desc? >> > >> > >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> > One dashboard for servers and applications across Physical-Virtual-Cloud >> > Widest out-of-the-box monitoring support with 50+ applications >> > Performance metrics, stats and reports that give you Actionable Insights >> > Deep dive visibility with transaction tracing using APM Insight. >> > http://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/290420510;117567292;y >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Scidvspc-users mailing list >> > Sci...@li... >> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/scidvspc-users >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 3 >> Date: Sun, 3 May 2015 18:28:45 -0400 >> From: Maksim Grinman <ma...@gm...> >> Subject: Re: [Scidvspc-users] Game list default ordering >> To: scidvspc mailing list <sci...@li...> >> Message-ID: >> < >> CAG...@ma...> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 >> >> That works well, but I was hoping for a way to keep the default sorted >> descending (latest at the top) rather than oldest first. If it's a >> feature worth adding, maybe point me to the place in the code where I >> can look? I'm might tinker with it (not familiar with the codebase). >> >> On Sun, May 3, 2015 at 2:45 PM, Maksim Grinman <ma...@gm...> wrote: >> > Is there a way to specify the default ordering of newly opened game >> > list to be date desc? >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 4 >> Date: Mon, 04 May 2015 00:41:31 +0100 >> From: Valente Silva <gu...@ne...> >> Subject: Re: [Scidvspc-users] Game list default ordering >> To: sci...@li... >> Message-ID: <554...@ne...> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed >> >> Click on top of the date column and you can sort it ascending or >> descending. Or type Control+End and you go to the end of the list, then >> up... I don't see the need to get more than this. >> >> On 03-05-2015 23:28, Maksim Grinman wrote: >> > That works well, but I was hoping for a way to keep the default sorted >> > descending (latest at the top) rather than oldest first. If it's a >> > feature worth adding, maybe point me to the place in the code where I >> > can look? I'm might tinker with it (not familiar with the codebase). >> > >> > On Sun, May 3, 2015 at 2:45 PM, Maksim Grinman <ma...@gm...> >> wrote: >> >> Is there a way to specify the default ordering of newly opened game >> >> list to be date desc? >> > >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> > One dashboard for servers and applications across Physical-Virtual-Cloud >> > Widest out-of-the-box monitoring support with 50+ applications >> > Performance metrics, stats and reports that give you Actionable Insights >> > Deep dive visibility with transaction tracing using APM Insight. >> > http://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/290420510;117567292;y >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Scidvspc-users mailing list >> > Sci...@li... >> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/scidvspc-users >> > >> > >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> One dashboard for servers and applications across Physical-Virtual-Cloud >> Widest out-of-the-box monitoring support with 50+ applications >> Performance metrics, stats and reports that give you Actionable Insights >> Deep dive visibility with transaction tracing using APM Insight. >> http://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/290420510;117567292;y >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Scidvspc-users mailing list >> Sci...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/scidvspc-users >> >> >> End of Scidvspc-users Digest, Vol 41, Issue 1 >> ********************************************* >> > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Mon, 04 May 2015 22:58:46 +0100 > From: Valente Silva <gu...@ne...> > Subject: Re: [Scidvspc-users] Scidvspc-users Digest, Vol 41, Issue 1 > To: sci...@li... > Message-ID: <554...@ne...> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" > > Ascending is the standard for databases, ever was. For some reason we > learned the alphabet like a-b-c and the numeric system like 1-2-3. > > On 04-05-2015 15:55, Maksim Grinman wrote: >> >> It's a matter of defaults. Maybe I'm alone in this, but when you open >> a games file, say your pgn of blitz games online, don't you want it to >> open with the most recent games on top? >> >> On May 4, 2015 8:00 AM, <sci...@li... >> <mailto:sci...@li...>> wrote: >> >> Send Scidvspc-users mailing list submissions to >> sci...@li... >> <mailto:sci...@li...> >> >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/scidvspc-users >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >> sci...@li... >> <mailto:sci...@li...> >> >> You can reach the person managing the list at >> sci...@li... >> <mailto:sci...@li...> >> >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >> than "Re: Contents of Scidvspc-users digest..." >> >> >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. Game list default ordering (Maksim Grinman) >> 2. Re: Game list default ordering (Steve A) >> 3. Re: Game list default ordering (Maksim Grinman) >> 4. Re: Game list default ordering (Valente Silva) >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Sun, 3 May 2015 14:45:57 -0400 >> From: Maksim Grinman <ma...@gm... <mailto:ma...@gm...>> >> Subject: [Scidvspc-users] Game list default ordering >> To: scidvspc mailing list <sci...@li... >> <mailto:sci...@li...>> >> Message-ID: >> >> <CAGRtvOcfH_fBbfU_SVLZNEPEYL2X_DBhABbOQzahym0efDAb=g...@ma... <mailto:g...@ma...>> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 >> >> Is there a way to specify the default ordering of newly opened game >> list to be date desc? >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 2 >> Date: Mon, 4 May 2015 06:51:47 +1000 >> From: Steve A <ste...@gm... <mailto:ste...@gm...>> >> Subject: Re: [Scidvspc-users] Game list default ordering >> To: Maksim Grinman <ma...@gm... <mailto:ma...@gm...>>, >> scidvspc-users >> <sci...@li... >> <mailto:sci...@li...>> >> Message-ID: >> >> <CAKDNZpFi82oj5vzdUvmxDM9aaA65jjjgSOt-6afKX_sPxP+F=w...@ma... <mailto:w...@ma...>> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 >> >> Once a database is sorted, it is always that way. >> (Though this does not apply to pgn files or read-only databases). >> If you sort by date, after re-opening the database it will still be >> sorted, but the little triangle on the date column heading will not be >> shown. >> See the sort help topics. >> >> Alternatively , you may also wish to set a database to autoload the >> last game (Maintenance window->Autoload game) >> >> S.A. >> >> On Mon, May 4, 2015 at 4:45 AM, Maksim Grinman <ma...@gm... >> <mailto:ma...@gm...>> wrote: >> > Is there a way to specify the default ordering of newly opened game >> > list to be date desc? >> > >> > >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> > One dashboard for servers and applications across >> Physical-Virtual-Cloud >> > Widest out-of-the-box monitoring support with 50+ applications >> > Performance metrics, stats and reports that give you Actionable >> Insights >> > Deep dive visibility with transaction tracing using APM Insight. >> > http://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/290420510;117567292;y >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Scidvspc-users mailing list >> > Sci...@li... >> <mailto:Sci...@li...> >> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/scidvspc-users >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 3 >> Date: Sun, 3 May 2015 18:28:45 -0400 >> From: Maksim Grinman <ma...@gm... <mailto:ma...@gm...>> >> Subject: Re: [Scidvspc-users] Game list default ordering >> To: scidvspc mailing list <sci...@li... >> <mailto:sci...@li...>> >> Message-ID: >> >> <CAG...@ma... <mailto:CAG...@ma...>> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 >> >> That works well, but I was hoping for a way to keep the default sorted >> descending (latest at the top) rather than oldest first. If it's a >> feature worth adding, maybe point me to the place in the code where I >> can look? I'm might tinker with it (not familiar with the codebase). >> >> On Sun, May 3, 2015 at 2:45 PM, Maksim Grinman <ma...@gm... >> <mailto:ma...@gm...>> wrote: >> > Is there a way to specify the default ordering of newly opened game >> > list to be date desc? >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 4 >> Date: Mon, 04 May 2015 00:41:31 +0100 >> From: Valente Silva <gu...@ne... <mailto:gu...@ne...>> >> Subject: Re: [Scidvspc-users] Game list default ordering >> To: sci...@li... >> <mailto:sci...@li...> >> Message-ID: <554...@ne... >> <mailto:554...@ne...>> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed >> >> Click on top of the date column and you can sort it ascending or >> descending. Or type Control+End and you go to the end of the list, >> then >> up... I don't see the need to get more than this. >> >> On 03-05-2015 23:28, Maksim Grinman wrote: >> > That works well, but I was hoping for a way to keep the default >> sorted >> > descending (latest at the top) rather than oldest first. If it's a >> > feature worth adding, maybe point me to the place in the code >> where I >> > can look? I'm might tinker with it (not familiar with the codebase). >> > >> > On Sun, May 3, 2015 at 2:45 PM, Maksim Grinman >> <ma...@gm... <mailto:ma...@gm...>> wrote: >> >> Is there a way to specify the default ordering of newly opened game >> >> list to be date desc? >> > >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> > One dashboard for servers and applications across >> Physical-Virtual-Cloud >> > Widest out-of-the-box monitoring support with 50+ applications >> > Performance metrics, stats and reports that give you Actionable >> Insights >> > Deep dive visibility with transaction tracing using APM Insight. >> > http://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/290420510;117567292;y >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Scidvspc-users mailing list >> > Sci...@li... >> <mailto:Sci...@li...> >> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/scidvspc-users >> > >> > >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> One dashboard for servers and applications across >> Physical-Virtual-Cloud >> Widest out-of-the-box monitoring support with 50+ applications >> Performance metrics, stats and reports that give you Actionable >> Insights >> Deep dive visibility with transaction tracing using APM Insight. >> http://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/290420510;117567292;y >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Scidvspc-users mailing list >> Sci...@li... >> <mailto:Sci...@li...> >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/scidvspc-users >> >> >> End of Scidvspc-users Digest, Vol 41, Issue 1 >> ********************************************* >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> One dashboard for servers and applications across Physical-Virtual-Cloud >> Widest out-of-the-box monitoring support with 50+ applications >> Performance metrics, stats and reports that give you Actionable Insights >> Deep dive visibility with transaction tracing using APM Insight. >> http://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/290420510;117567292;y >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Scidvspc-users mailing list >> Sci...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/scidvspc-users > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > > ------------------------------ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > One dashboard for servers and applications across Physical-Virtual-Cloud > Widest out-of-the-box monitoring support with 50+ applications > Performance metrics, stats and reports that give you Actionable Insights > Deep dive visibility with transaction tracing using APM Insight. > http://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/290420510;117567292;y > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Scidvspc-users mailing list > Sci...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/scidvspc-users > > > End of Scidvspc-users Digest, Vol 41, Issue 2 > ********************************************* |
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From: Maksim G. <ma...@gm...> - 2015-05-04 23:52:46
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I'm ready to drop it because it's really not that big a deal, but I want to add that though I haven't used Chessbase for a couple years now, I don't remember this being a problem there. Chessbase thought about what users want, and got this part right. On Mon, May 4, 2015 at 7:47 PM, Maksim Grinman <ma...@gm...> wrote: > What does the order that we learn something have anything to do with > this? Whenever I do a SQL query where I need to see the latest few > rows, I do order by time desc, and when I open my games list, I want > the latest one at the top, not the bottom. I don't care about the game > I played 2 years ago when I started recording my games. I don't know > about any standards to have old stuff be shown to you as more > important. > > On Mon, May 4, 2015 at 5:58 PM, > <sci...@li...> wrote: >> Send Scidvspc-users mailing list submissions to >> sci...@li... >> >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/scidvspc-users >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >> sci...@li... >> >> You can reach the person managing the list at >> sci...@li... >> >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >> than "Re: Contents of Scidvspc-users digest..." >> >> >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. Re: Scidvspc-users Digest, Vol 41, Issue 1 (Maksim Grinman) >> 2. Re: Scidvspc-users Digest, Vol 41, Issue 1 (Valente Silva) >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Mon, 4 May 2015 10:55:22 -0400 >> From: Maksim Grinman <ma...@gm...> >> Subject: Re: [Scidvspc-users] Scidvspc-users Digest, Vol 41, Issue 1 >> To: scidvspc mailing list <sci...@li...> >> Message-ID: >> <CAG...@ma...> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >> >> It's a matter of defaults. Maybe I'm alone in this, but when you open a >> games file, say your pgn of blitz games online, don't you want it to open >> with the most recent games on top? >> On May 4, 2015 8:00 AM, <sci...@li...> >> wrote: >> >>> Send Scidvspc-users mailing list submissions to >>> sci...@li... >>> >>> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/scidvspc-users >>> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >>> sci...@li... >>> >>> You can reach the person managing the list at >>> sci...@li... >>> >>> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >>> than "Re: Contents of Scidvspc-users digest..." >>> >>> >>> Today's Topics: >>> >>> 1. Game list default ordering (Maksim Grinman) >>> 2. Re: Game list default ordering (Steve A) >>> 3. Re: Game list default ordering (Maksim Grinman) >>> 4. Re: Game list default ordering (Valente Silva) >>> >>> >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> >>> Message: 1 >>> Date: Sun, 3 May 2015 14:45:57 -0400 >>> From: Maksim Grinman <ma...@gm...> >>> Subject: [Scidvspc-users] Game list default ordering >>> To: scidvspc mailing list <sci...@li...> >>> Message-ID: >>> <CAGRtvOcfH_fBbfU_SVLZNEPEYL2X_DBhABbOQzahym0efDAb= >>> g...@ma...> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 >>> >>> Is there a way to specify the default ordering of newly opened game >>> list to be date desc? >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Message: 2 >>> Date: Mon, 4 May 2015 06:51:47 +1000 >>> From: Steve A <ste...@gm...> >>> Subject: Re: [Scidvspc-users] Game list default ordering >>> To: Maksim Grinman <ma...@gm...>, scidvspc-users >>> <sci...@li...> >>> Message-ID: >>> <CAKDNZpFi82oj5vzdUvmxDM9aaA65jjjgSOt-6afKX_sPxP+F= >>> w...@ma...> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 >>> >>> Once a database is sorted, it is always that way. >>> (Though this does not apply to pgn files or read-only databases). >>> If you sort by date, after re-opening the database it will still be >>> sorted, but the little triangle on the date column heading will not be >>> shown. >>> See the sort help topics. >>> >>> Alternatively , you may also wish to set a database to autoload the >>> last game (Maintenance window->Autoload game) >>> >>> S.A. >>> >>> On Mon, May 4, 2015 at 4:45 AM, Maksim Grinman <ma...@gm...> wrote: >>> > Is there a way to specify the default ordering of newly opened game >>> > list to be date desc? >>> > >>> > >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> > One dashboard for servers and applications across Physical-Virtual-Cloud >>> > Widest out-of-the-box monitoring support with 50+ applications >>> > Performance metrics, stats and reports that give you Actionable Insights >>> > Deep dive visibility with transaction tracing using APM Insight. >>> > http://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/290420510;117567292;y >>> > _______________________________________________ >>> > Scidvspc-users mailing list >>> > Sci...@li... >>> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/scidvspc-users >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Message: 3 >>> Date: Sun, 3 May 2015 18:28:45 -0400 >>> From: Maksim Grinman <ma...@gm...> >>> Subject: Re: [Scidvspc-users] Game list default ordering >>> To: scidvspc mailing list <sci...@li...> >>> Message-ID: >>> < >>> CAG...@ma...> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 >>> >>> That works well, but I was hoping for a way to keep the default sorted >>> descending (latest at the top) rather than oldest first. If it's a >>> feature worth adding, maybe point me to the place in the code where I >>> can look? I'm might tinker with it (not familiar with the codebase). >>> >>> On Sun, May 3, 2015 at 2:45 PM, Maksim Grinman <ma...@gm...> wrote: >>> > Is there a way to specify the default ordering of newly opened game >>> > list to be date desc? >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Message: 4 >>> Date: Mon, 04 May 2015 00:41:31 +0100 >>> From: Valente Silva <gu...@ne...> >>> Subject: Re: [Scidvspc-users] Game list default ordering >>> To: sci...@li... >>> Message-ID: <554...@ne...> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed >>> >>> Click on top of the date column and you can sort it ascending or >>> descending. Or type Control+End and you go to the end of the list, then >>> up... I don't see the need to get more than this. >>> >>> On 03-05-2015 23:28, Maksim Grinman wrote: >>> > That works well, but I was hoping for a way to keep the default sorted >>> > descending (latest at the top) rather than oldest first. If it's a >>> > feature worth adding, maybe point me to the place in the code where I >>> > can look? I'm might tinker with it (not familiar with the codebase). >>> > >>> > On Sun, May 3, 2015 at 2:45 PM, Maksim Grinman <ma...@gm...> >>> wrote: >>> >> Is there a way to specify the default ordering of newly opened game >>> >> list to be date desc? >>> > >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> > One dashboard for servers and applications across Physical-Virtual-Cloud >>> > Widest out-of-the-box monitoring support with 50+ applications >>> > Performance metrics, stats and reports that give you Actionable Insights >>> > Deep dive visibility with transaction tracing using APM Insight. >>> > http://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/290420510;117567292;y >>> > _______________________________________________ >>> > Scidvspc-users mailing list >>> > Sci...@li... >>> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/scidvspc-users >>> > >>> > >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> One dashboard for servers and applications across Physical-Virtual-Cloud >>> Widest out-of-the-box monitoring support with 50+ applications >>> Performance metrics, stats and reports that give you Actionable Insights >>> Deep dive visibility with transaction tracing using APM Insight. >>> http://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/290420510;117567292;y >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Scidvspc-users mailing list >>> Sci...@li... >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/scidvspc-users >>> >>> >>> End of Scidvspc-users Digest, Vol 41, Issue 1 >>> ********************************************* >>> >> -------------- next part -------------- >> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 2 >> Date: Mon, 04 May 2015 22:58:46 +0100 >> From: Valente Silva <gu...@ne...> >> Subject: Re: [Scidvspc-users] Scidvspc-users Digest, Vol 41, Issue 1 >> To: sci...@li... >> Message-ID: <554...@ne...> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" >> >> Ascending is the standard for databases, ever was. For some reason we >> learned the alphabet like a-b-c and the numeric system like 1-2-3. >> >> On 04-05-2015 15:55, Maksim Grinman wrote: >>> >>> It's a matter of defaults. Maybe I'm alone in this, but when you open >>> a games file, say your pgn of blitz games online, don't you want it to >>> open with the most recent games on top? >>> >>> On May 4, 2015 8:00 AM, <sci...@li... >>> <mailto:sci...@li...>> wrote: >>> >>> Send Scidvspc-users mailing list submissions to >>> sci...@li... >>> <mailto:sci...@li...> >>> >>> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/scidvspc-users >>> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >>> sci...@li... >>> <mailto:sci...@li...> >>> >>> You can reach the person managing the list at >>> sci...@li... >>> <mailto:sci...@li...> >>> >>> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >>> than "Re: Contents of Scidvspc-users digest..." >>> >>> >>> Today's Topics: >>> >>> 1. Game list default ordering (Maksim Grinman) >>> 2. Re: Game list default ordering (Steve A) >>> 3. Re: Game list default ordering (Maksim Grinman) >>> 4. Re: Game list default ordering (Valente Silva) >>> >>> >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> >>> Message: 1 >>> Date: Sun, 3 May 2015 14:45:57 -0400 >>> From: Maksim Grinman <ma...@gm... <mailto:ma...@gm...>> >>> Subject: [Scidvspc-users] Game list default ordering >>> To: scidvspc mailing list <sci...@li... >>> <mailto:sci...@li...>> >>> Message-ID: >>> >>> <CAGRtvOcfH_fBbfU_SVLZNEPEYL2X_DBhABbOQzahym0efDAb=g...@ma... <mailto:g...@ma...>> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 >>> >>> Is there a way to specify the default ordering of newly opened game >>> list to be date desc? >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Message: 2 >>> Date: Mon, 4 May 2015 06:51:47 +1000 >>> From: Steve A <ste...@gm... <mailto:ste...@gm...>> >>> Subject: Re: [Scidvspc-users] Game list default ordering >>> To: Maksim Grinman <ma...@gm... <mailto:ma...@gm...>>, >>> scidvspc-users >>> <sci...@li... >>> <mailto:sci...@li...>> >>> Message-ID: >>> >>> <CAKDNZpFi82oj5vzdUvmxDM9aaA65jjjgSOt-6afKX_sPxP+F=w...@ma... <mailto:w...@ma...>> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 >>> >>> Once a database is sorted, it is always that way. >>> (Though this does not apply to pgn files or read-only databases). >>> If you sort by date, after re-opening the database it will still be >>> sorted, but the little triangle on the date column heading will not be >>> shown. >>> See the sort help topics. >>> >>> Alternatively , you may also wish to set a database to autoload the >>> last game (Maintenance window->Autoload game) >>> >>> S.A. >>> >>> On Mon, May 4, 2015 at 4:45 AM, Maksim Grinman <ma...@gm... >>> <mailto:ma...@gm...>> wrote: >>> > Is there a way to specify the default ordering of newly opened game >>> > list to be date desc? >>> > >>> > >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> > One dashboard for servers and applications across >>> Physical-Virtual-Cloud >>> > Widest out-of-the-box monitoring support with 50+ applications >>> > Performance metrics, stats and reports that give you Actionable >>> Insights >>> > Deep dive visibility with transaction tracing using APM Insight. >>> > http://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/290420510;117567292;y >>> > _______________________________________________ >>> > Scidvspc-users mailing list >>> > Sci...@li... >>> <mailto:Sci...@li...> >>> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/scidvspc-users >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Message: 3 >>> Date: Sun, 3 May 2015 18:28:45 -0400 >>> From: Maksim Grinman <ma...@gm... <mailto:ma...@gm...>> >>> Subject: Re: [Scidvspc-users] Game list default ordering >>> To: scidvspc mailing list <sci...@li... >>> <mailto:sci...@li...>> >>> Message-ID: >>> >>> <CAG...@ma... <mailto:CAG...@ma...>> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 >>> >>> That works well, but I was hoping for a way to keep the default sorted >>> descending (latest at the top) rather than oldest first. If it's a >>> feature worth adding, maybe point me to the place in the code where I >>> can look? I'm might tinker with it (not familiar with the codebase). >>> >>> On Sun, May 3, 2015 at 2:45 PM, Maksim Grinman <ma...@gm... >>> <mailto:ma...@gm...>> wrote: >>> > Is there a way to specify the default ordering of newly opened game >>> > list to be date desc? >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Message: 4 >>> Date: Mon, 04 May 2015 00:41:31 +0100 >>> From: Valente Silva <gu...@ne... <mailto:gu...@ne...>> >>> Subject: Re: [Scidvspc-users] Game list default ordering >>> To: sci...@li... >>> <mailto:sci...@li...> >>> Message-ID: <554...@ne... >>> <mailto:554...@ne...>> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed >>> >>> Click on top of the date column and you can sort it ascending or >>> descending. Or type Control+End and you go to the end of the list, >>> then >>> up... I don't see the need to get more than this. >>> >>> On 03-05-2015 23:28, Maksim Grinman wrote: >>> > That works well, but I was hoping for a way to keep the default >>> sorted >>> > descending (latest at the top) rather than oldest first. If it's a >>> > feature worth adding, maybe point me to the place in the code >>> where I >>> > can look? I'm might tinker with it (not familiar with the codebase). >>> > >>> > On Sun, May 3, 2015 at 2:45 PM, Maksim Grinman >>> <ma...@gm... <mailto:ma...@gm...>> wrote: >>> >> Is there a way to specify the default ordering of newly opened game >>> >> list to be date desc? >>> > >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> > One dashboard for servers and applications across >>> Physical-Virtual-Cloud >>> > Widest out-of-the-box monitoring support with 50+ applications >>> > Performance metrics, stats and reports that give you Actionable >>> Insights >>> > Deep dive visibility with transaction tracing using APM Insight. >>> > http://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/290420510;117567292;y >>> > _______________________________________________ >>> > Scidvspc-users mailing list >>> > Sci...@li... >>> <mailto:Sci...@li...> >>> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/scidvspc-users >>> > >>> > >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> One dashboard for servers and applications across >>> Physical-Virtual-Cloud >>> Widest out-of-the-box monitoring support with 50+ applications >>> Performance metrics, stats and reports that give you Actionable >>> Insights >>> Deep dive visibility with transaction tracing using APM Insight. >>> http://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/290420510;117567292;y >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Scidvspc-users mailing list >>> Sci...@li... >>> <mailto:Sci...@li...> >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/scidvspc-users >>> >>> >>> End of Scidvspc-users Digest, Vol 41, Issue 1 >>> ********************************************* >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> One dashboard for servers and applications across Physical-Virtual-Cloud >>> Widest out-of-the-box monitoring support with 50+ applications >>> Performance metrics, stats and reports that give you Actionable Insights >>> Deep dive visibility with transaction tracing using APM Insight. >>> http://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/290420510;117567292;y >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Scidvspc-users mailing list >>> Sci...@li... >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/scidvspc-users >> >> -------------- next part -------------- >> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> One dashboard for servers and applications across Physical-Virtual-Cloud >> Widest out-of-the-box monitoring support with 50+ applications >> Performance metrics, stats and reports that give you Actionable Insights >> Deep dive visibility with transaction tracing using APM Insight. >> http://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/290420510;117567292;y >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Scidvspc-users mailing list >> Sci...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/scidvspc-users >> >> >> End of Scidvspc-users Digest, Vol 41, Issue 2 >> ********************************************* |
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From: Maksim G. <ma...@gm...> - 2015-05-05 00:23:48
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Got this from Steve Steinitz (li...@da...): > Hey man, I don’t have the original thread - I seem to only get the digest, despite my settings otherwise, and so can't reply to the specific thread. Sorry. That said, its unlikely anything will get done in either case. > > Feel free to cite my support - the old-on-top sorting is useless at best. > > Regards, > > Steve On Mon, May 4, 2015 at 7:52 PM, Maksim Grinman <ma...@gm...> wrote: > I'm ready to drop it because it's really not that big a deal, but I > want to add that though I haven't used Chessbase for a couple years > now, I don't remember this being a problem there. Chessbase thought > about what users want, and got this part right. > > On Mon, May 4, 2015 at 7:47 PM, Maksim Grinman <ma...@gm...> wrote: >> What does the order that we learn something have anything to do with >> this? Whenever I do a SQL query where I need to see the latest few >> rows, I do order by time desc, and when I open my games list, I want >> the latest one at the top, not the bottom. I don't care about the game >> I played 2 years ago when I started recording my games. I don't know >> about any standards to have old stuff be shown to you as more >> important. >> >> On Mon, May 4, 2015 at 5:58 PM, >> <sci...@li...> wrote: >>> Send Scidvspc-users mailing list submissions to >>> sci...@li... >>> >>> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/scidvspc-users >>> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >>> sci...@li... >>> >>> You can reach the person managing the list at >>> sci...@li... >>> >>> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >>> than "Re: Contents of Scidvspc-users digest..." >>> >>> >>> Today's Topics: >>> >>> 1. Re: Scidvspc-users Digest, Vol 41, Issue 1 (Maksim Grinman) >>> 2. Re: Scidvspc-users Digest, Vol 41, Issue 1 (Valente Silva) >>> >>> >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> >>> Message: 1 >>> Date: Mon, 4 May 2015 10:55:22 -0400 >>> From: Maksim Grinman <ma...@gm...> >>> Subject: Re: [Scidvspc-users] Scidvspc-users Digest, Vol 41, Issue 1 >>> To: scidvspc mailing list <sci...@li...> >>> Message-ID: >>> <CAG...@ma...> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >>> >>> It's a matter of defaults. Maybe I'm alone in this, but when you open a >>> games file, say your pgn of blitz games online, don't you want it to open >>> with the most recent games on top? >>> On May 4, 2015 8:00 AM, <sci...@li...> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Send Scidvspc-users mailing list submissions to >>>> sci...@li... >>>> >>>> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/scidvspc-users >>>> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >>>> sci...@li... >>>> >>>> You can reach the person managing the list at >>>> sci...@li... >>>> >>>> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >>>> than "Re: Contents of Scidvspc-users digest..." >>>> >>>> >>>> Today's Topics: >>>> >>>> 1. Game list default ordering (Maksim Grinman) >>>> 2. Re: Game list default ordering (Steve A) >>>> 3. Re: Game list default ordering (Maksim Grinman) >>>> 4. Re: Game list default ordering (Valente Silva) >>>> >>>> >>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> >>>> Message: 1 >>>> Date: Sun, 3 May 2015 14:45:57 -0400 >>>> From: Maksim Grinman <ma...@gm...> >>>> Subject: [Scidvspc-users] Game list default ordering >>>> To: scidvspc mailing list <sci...@li...> >>>> Message-ID: >>>> <CAGRtvOcfH_fBbfU_SVLZNEPEYL2X_DBhABbOQzahym0efDAb= >>>> g...@ma...> >>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 >>>> >>>> Is there a way to specify the default ordering of newly opened game >>>> list to be date desc? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> >>>> Message: 2 >>>> Date: Mon, 4 May 2015 06:51:47 +1000 >>>> From: Steve A <ste...@gm...> >>>> Subject: Re: [Scidvspc-users] Game list default ordering >>>> To: Maksim Grinman <ma...@gm...>, scidvspc-users >>>> <sci...@li...> >>>> Message-ID: >>>> <CAKDNZpFi82oj5vzdUvmxDM9aaA65jjjgSOt-6afKX_sPxP+F= >>>> w...@ma...> >>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 >>>> >>>> Once a database is sorted, it is always that way. >>>> (Though this does not apply to pgn files or read-only databases). >>>> If you sort by date, after re-opening the database it will still be >>>> sorted, but the little triangle on the date column heading will not be >>>> shown. >>>> See the sort help topics. >>>> >>>> Alternatively , you may also wish to set a database to autoload the >>>> last game (Maintenance window->Autoload game) >>>> >>>> S.A. >>>> >>>> On Mon, May 4, 2015 at 4:45 AM, Maksim Grinman <ma...@gm...> wrote: >>>> > Is there a way to specify the default ordering of newly opened game >>>> > list to be date desc? >>>> > >>>> > >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>> > One dashboard for servers and applications across Physical-Virtual-Cloud >>>> > Widest out-of-the-box monitoring support with 50+ applications >>>> > Performance metrics, stats and reports that give you Actionable Insights >>>> > Deep dive visibility with transaction tracing using APM Insight. >>>> > http://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/290420510;117567292;y >>>> > _______________________________________________ >>>> > Scidvspc-users mailing list >>>> > Sci...@li... >>>> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/scidvspc-users >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> >>>> Message: 3 >>>> Date: Sun, 3 May 2015 18:28:45 -0400 >>>> From: Maksim Grinman <ma...@gm...> >>>> Subject: Re: [Scidvspc-users] Game list default ordering >>>> To: scidvspc mailing list <sci...@li...> >>>> Message-ID: >>>> < >>>> CAG...@ma...> >>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 >>>> >>>> That works well, but I was hoping for a way to keep the default sorted >>>> descending (latest at the top) rather than oldest first. If it's a >>>> feature worth adding, maybe point me to the place in the code where I >>>> can look? I'm might tinker with it (not familiar with the codebase). >>>> >>>> On Sun, May 3, 2015 at 2:45 PM, Maksim Grinman <ma...@gm...> wrote: >>>> > Is there a way to specify the default ordering of newly opened game >>>> > list to be date desc? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> >>>> Message: 4 >>>> Date: Mon, 04 May 2015 00:41:31 +0100 >>>> From: Valente Silva <gu...@ne...> >>>> Subject: Re: [Scidvspc-users] Game list default ordering >>>> To: sci...@li... >>>> Message-ID: <554...@ne...> >>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed >>>> >>>> Click on top of the date column and you can sort it ascending or >>>> descending. Or type Control+End and you go to the end of the list, then >>>> up... I don't see the need to get more than this. >>>> >>>> On 03-05-2015 23:28, Maksim Grinman wrote: >>>> > That works well, but I was hoping for a way to keep the default sorted >>>> > descending (latest at the top) rather than oldest first. If it's a >>>> > feature worth adding, maybe point me to the place in the code where I >>>> > can look? I'm might tinker with it (not familiar with the codebase). >>>> > >>>> > On Sun, May 3, 2015 at 2:45 PM, Maksim Grinman <ma...@gm...> >>>> wrote: >>>> >> Is there a way to specify the default ordering of newly opened game >>>> >> list to be date desc? >>>> > >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>> > One dashboard for servers and applications across Physical-Virtual-Cloud >>>> > Widest out-of-the-box monitoring support with 50+ applications >>>> > Performance metrics, stats and reports that give you Actionable Insights >>>> > Deep dive visibility with transaction tracing using APM Insight. >>>> > http://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/290420510;117567292;y >>>> > _______________________________________________ >>>> > Scidvspc-users mailing list >>>> > Sci...@li... >>>> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/scidvspc-users >>>> > >>>> > >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>> One dashboard for servers and applications across Physical-Virtual-Cloud >>>> Widest out-of-the-box monitoring support with 50+ applications >>>> Performance metrics, stats and reports that give you Actionable Insights >>>> Deep dive visibility with transaction tracing using APM Insight. >>>> http://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/290420510;117567292;y >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Scidvspc-users mailing list >>>> Sci...@li... >>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/scidvspc-users >>>> >>>> >>>> End of Scidvspc-users Digest, Vol 41, Issue 1 >>>> ********************************************* >>>> >>> -------------- next part -------------- >>> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Message: 2 >>> Date: Mon, 04 May 2015 22:58:46 +0100 >>> From: Valente Silva <gu...@ne...> >>> Subject: Re: [Scidvspc-users] Scidvspc-users Digest, Vol 41, Issue 1 >>> To: sci...@li... >>> Message-ID: <554...@ne...> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" >>> >>> Ascending is the standard for databases, ever was. For some reason we >>> learned the alphabet like a-b-c and the numeric system like 1-2-3. >>> >>> On 04-05-2015 15:55, Maksim Grinman wrote: >>>> >>>> It's a matter of defaults. Maybe I'm alone in this, but when you open >>>> a games file, say your pgn of blitz games online, don't you want it to >>>> open with the most recent games on top? >>>> >>>> On May 4, 2015 8:00 AM, <sci...@li... >>>> <mailto:sci...@li...>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Send Scidvspc-users mailing list submissions to >>>> sci...@li... >>>> <mailto:sci...@li...> >>>> >>>> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/scidvspc-users >>>> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >>>> sci...@li... >>>> <mailto:sci...@li...> >>>> >>>> You can reach the person managing the list at >>>> sci...@li... >>>> <mailto:sci...@li...> >>>> >>>> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >>>> than "Re: Contents of Scidvspc-users digest..." >>>> >>>> >>>> Today's Topics: >>>> >>>> 1. Game list default ordering (Maksim Grinman) >>>> 2. Re: Game list default ordering (Steve A) >>>> 3. Re: Game list default ordering (Maksim Grinman) >>>> 4. Re: Game list default ordering (Valente Silva) >>>> >>>> >>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> >>>> Message: 1 >>>> Date: Sun, 3 May 2015 14:45:57 -0400 >>>> From: Maksim Grinman <ma...@gm... <mailto:ma...@gm...>> >>>> Subject: [Scidvspc-users] Game list default ordering >>>> To: scidvspc mailing list <sci...@li... >>>> <mailto:sci...@li...>> >>>> Message-ID: >>>> >>>> <CAGRtvOcfH_fBbfU_SVLZNEPEYL2X_DBhABbOQzahym0efDAb=g...@ma... <mailto:g...@ma...>> >>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 >>>> >>>> Is there a way to specify the default ordering of newly opened game >>>> list to be date desc? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> >>>> Message: 2 >>>> Date: Mon, 4 May 2015 06:51:47 +1000 >>>> From: Steve A <ste...@gm... <mailto:ste...@gm...>> >>>> Subject: Re: [Scidvspc-users] Game list default ordering >>>> To: Maksim Grinman <ma...@gm... <mailto:ma...@gm...>>, >>>> scidvspc-users >>>> <sci...@li... >>>> <mailto:sci...@li...>> >>>> Message-ID: >>>> >>>> <CAKDNZpFi82oj5vzdUvmxDM9aaA65jjjgSOt-6afKX_sPxP+F=w...@ma... <mailto:w...@ma...>> >>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 >>>> >>>> Once a database is sorted, it is always that way. >>>> (Though this does not apply to pgn files or read-only databases). >>>> If you sort by date, after re-opening the database it will still be >>>> sorted, but the little triangle on the date column heading will not be >>>> shown. >>>> See the sort help topics. >>>> >>>> Alternatively , you may also wish to set a database to autoload the >>>> last game (Maintenance window->Autoload game) >>>> >>>> S.A. >>>> >>>> On Mon, May 4, 2015 at 4:45 AM, Maksim Grinman <ma...@gm... >>>> <mailto:ma...@gm...>> wrote: >>>> > Is there a way to specify the default ordering of newly opened game >>>> > list to be date desc? >>>> > >>>> > >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>> > One dashboard for servers and applications across >>>> Physical-Virtual-Cloud >>>> > Widest out-of-the-box monitoring support with 50+ applications >>>> > Performance metrics, stats and reports that give you Actionable >>>> Insights >>>> > Deep dive visibility with transaction tracing using APM Insight. >>>> > http://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/290420510;117567292;y >>>> > _______________________________________________ >>>> > Scidvspc-users mailing list >>>> > Sci...@li... >>>> <mailto:Sci...@li...> >>>> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/scidvspc-users >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> >>>> Message: 3 >>>> Date: Sun, 3 May 2015 18:28:45 -0400 >>>> From: Maksim Grinman <ma...@gm... <mailto:ma...@gm...>> >>>> Subject: Re: [Scidvspc-users] Game list default ordering >>>> To: scidvspc mailing list <sci...@li... >>>> <mailto:sci...@li...>> >>>> Message-ID: >>>> >>>> <CAG...@ma... <mailto:CAG...@ma...>> >>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 >>>> >>>> That works well, but I was hoping for a way to keep the default sorted >>>> descending (latest at the top) rather than oldest first. If it's a >>>> feature worth adding, maybe point me to the place in the code where I >>>> can look? I'm might tinker with it (not familiar with the codebase). >>>> >>>> On Sun, May 3, 2015 at 2:45 PM, Maksim Grinman <ma...@gm... >>>> <mailto:ma...@gm...>> wrote: >>>> > Is there a way to specify the default ordering of newly opened game >>>> > list to be date desc? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> >>>> Message: 4 >>>> Date: Mon, 04 May 2015 00:41:31 +0100 >>>> From: Valente Silva <gu...@ne... <mailto:gu...@ne...>> >>>> Subject: Re: [Scidvspc-users] Game list default ordering >>>> To: sci...@li... >>>> <mailto:sci...@li...> >>>> Message-ID: <554...@ne... >>>> <mailto:554...@ne...>> >>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed >>>> >>>> Click on top of the date column and you can sort it ascending or >>>> descending. Or type Control+End and you go to the end of the list, >>>> then >>>> up... I don't see the need to get more than this. >>>> >>>> On 03-05-2015 23:28, Maksim Grinman wrote: >>>> > That works well, but I was hoping for a way to keep the default >>>> sorted >>>> > descending (latest at the top) rather than oldest first. If it's a >>>> > feature worth adding, maybe point me to the place in the code >>>> where I >>>> > can look? I'm might tinker with it (not familiar with the codebase). >>>> > >>>> > On Sun, May 3, 2015 at 2:45 PM, Maksim Grinman >>>> <ma...@gm... <mailto:ma...@gm...>> wrote: >>>> >> Is there a way to specify the default ordering of newly opened game >>>> >> list to be date desc? >>>> > >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>> > One dashboard for servers and applications across >>>> Physical-Virtual-Cloud >>>> > Widest out-of-the-box monitoring support with 50+ applications >>>> > Performance metrics, stats and reports that give you Actionable >>>> Insights >>>> > Deep dive visibility with transaction tracing using APM Insight. >>>> > http://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/290420510;117567292;y >>>> > _______________________________________________ >>>> > Scidvspc-users mailing list >>>> > Sci...@li... >>>> <mailto:Sci...@li...> >>>> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/scidvspc-users >>>> > >>>> > >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>> One dashboard for servers and applications across >>>> Physical-Virtual-Cloud >>>> Widest out-of-the-box monitoring support with 50+ applications >>>> Performance metrics, stats and reports that give you Actionable >>>> Insights >>>> Deep dive visibility with transaction tracing using APM Insight. >>>> http://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/290420510;117567292;y >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Scidvspc-users mailing list >>>> Sci...@li... >>>> <mailto:Sci...@li...> >>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/scidvspc-users >>>> >>>> >>>> End of Scidvspc-users Digest, Vol 41, Issue 1 >>>> ********************************************* >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>> One dashboard for servers and applications across Physical-Virtual-Cloud >>>> Widest out-of-the-box monitoring support with 50+ applications >>>> Performance metrics, stats and reports that give you Actionable Insights >>>> Deep dive visibility with transaction tracing using APM Insight. >>>> http://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/290420510;117567292;y >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Scidvspc-users mailing list >>>> Sci...@li... >>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/scidvspc-users >>> >>> -------------- next part -------------- >>> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> One dashboard for servers and applications across Physical-Virtual-Cloud >>> Widest out-of-the-box monitoring support with 50+ applications >>> Performance metrics, stats and reports that give you Actionable Insights >>> Deep dive visibility with transaction tracing using APM Insight. >>> http://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/290420510;117567292;y >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Scidvspc-users mailing list >>> Sci...@li... >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/scidvspc-users >>> >>> >>> End of Scidvspc-users Digest, Vol 41, Issue 2 >>> ********************************************* |
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From: Alan W. <acw...@vi...> - 2015-05-05 02:34:46
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"Chessbase thought about what users want, and got this part right" Please remember that scidvspc is NOT a commercial product, but a community effort by a group of dedicated programmers that have volunteered their time. Solving everyone's problems isn't an easy endeavor, and sometimes not even possible. You are getting a program that is in the same class as Chessbase, for free! Let's be a bit more tolerant about the programs limitations and a bit more appreciative. On 05/04/2015 04:52 PM, Maksim Grinman wrote: > I'm ready to drop it because it's really not that big a deal, but I > want to add that though I haven't used Chessbase for a couple years > now, I don't remember this being a problem there. . > > On Mon, May 4, 2015 at 7:47 PM, Maksim Grinman <ma...@gm...> wrote: >> What does the order that we learn something have anything to do with >> this? Whenever I do a SQL query where I need to see the latest few >> rows, I do order by time desc, and when I open my games list, I want >> the latest one at the top, not the bottom. I don't care about the game >> I played 2 years ago when I started recording my games. I don't know >> about any standards to have old stuff be shown to you as more >> important. >> >> On Mon, May 4, 2015 at 5:58 PM, >> <sci...@li...> wrote: >>> Send Scidvspc-users mailing list submissions to >>> sci...@li... >>> >>> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/scidvspc-users >>> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >>> sci...@li... >>> >>> You can reach the person managing the list at >>> sci...@li... >>> >>> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >>> than "Re: Contents of Scidvspc-users digest..." >>> >>> >>> Today's Topics: >>> >>> 1. Re: Scidvspc-users Digest, Vol 41, Issue 1 (Maksim Grinman) >>> 2. Re: Scidvspc-users Digest, Vol 41, Issue 1 (Valente Silva) >>> >>> >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> >>> Message: 1 >>> Date: Mon, 4 May 2015 10:55:22 -0400 >>> From: Maksim Grinman <ma...@gm...> >>> Subject: Re: [Scidvspc-users] Scidvspc-users Digest, Vol 41, Issue 1 >>> To: scidvspc mailing list <sci...@li...> >>> Message-ID: >>> <CAG...@ma...> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >>> >>> It's a matter of defaults. Maybe I'm alone in this, but when you open a >>> games file, say your pgn of blitz games online, don't you want it to open >>> with the most recent games on top? >>> On May 4, 2015 8:00 AM, <sci...@li...> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Send Scidvspc-users mailing list submissions to >>>> sci...@li... >>>> >>>> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/scidvspc-users >>>> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >>>> sci...@li... >>>> >>>> You can reach the person managing the list at >>>> sci...@li... >>>> >>>> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >>>> than "Re: Contents of Scidvspc-users digest..." >>>> >>>> >>>> Today's Topics: >>>> >>>> 1. Game list default ordering (Maksim Grinman) >>>> 2. Re: Game list default ordering (Steve A) >>>> 3. Re: Game list default ordering (Maksim Grinman) >>>> 4. Re: Game list default ordering (Valente Silva) >>>> >>>> >>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> >>>> Message: 1 >>>> Date: Sun, 3 May 2015 14:45:57 -0400 >>>> From: Maksim Grinman <ma...@gm...> >>>> Subject: [Scidvspc-users] Game list default ordering >>>> To: scidvspc mailing list <sci...@li...> >>>> Message-ID: >>>> <CAGRtvOcfH_fBbfU_SVLZNEPEYL2X_DBhABbOQzahym0efDAb= >>>> g...@ma...> >>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 >>>> >>>> Is there a way to specify the default ordering of newly opened game >>>> list to be date desc? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> >>>> Message: 2 >>>> Date: Mon, 4 May 2015 06:51:47 +1000 >>>> From: Steve A <ste...@gm...> >>>> Subject: Re: [Scidvspc-users] Game list default ordering >>>> To: Maksim Grinman <ma...@gm...>, scidvspc-users >>>> <sci...@li...> >>>> Message-ID: >>>> <CAKDNZpFi82oj5vzdUvmxDM9aaA65jjjgSOt-6afKX_sPxP+F= >>>> w...@ma...> >>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 >>>> >>>> Once a database is sorted, it is always that way. >>>> (Though this does not apply to pgn files or read-only databases). >>>> If you sort by date, after re-opening the database it will still be >>>> sorted, but the little triangle on the date column heading will not be >>>> shown. >>>> See the sort help topics. >>>> >>>> Alternatively , you may also wish to set a database to autoload the >>>> last game (Maintenance window->Autoload game) >>>> >>>> S.A. >>>> >>>> On Mon, May 4, 2015 at 4:45 AM, Maksim Grinman <ma...@gm...> wrote: >>>>> Is there a way to specify the default ordering of newly opened game >>>>> list to be date desc? >>>>> >>>>> >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>>> One dashboard for servers and applications across Physical-Virtual-Cloud >>>>> Widest out-of-the-box monitoring support with 50+ applications >>>>> Performance metrics, stats and reports that give you Actionable Insights >>>>> Deep dive visibility with transaction tracing using APM Insight. >>>>> http://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/290420510;117567292;y >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Scidvspc-users mailing list >>>>> Sci...@li... >>>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/scidvspc-users >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> >>>> Message: 3 >>>> Date: Sun, 3 May 2015 18:28:45 -0400 >>>> From: Maksim Grinman <ma...@gm...> >>>> Subject: Re: [Scidvspc-users] Game list default ordering >>>> To: scidvspc mailing list <sci...@li...> >>>> Message-ID: >>>> < >>>> CAG...@ma...> >>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 >>>> >>>> That works well, but I was hoping for a way to keep the default sorted >>>> descending (latest at the top) rather than oldest first. If it's a >>>> feature worth adding, maybe point me to the place in the code where I >>>> can look? I'm might tinker with it (not familiar with the codebase). >>>> >>>> On Sun, May 3, 2015 at 2:45 PM, Maksim Grinman <ma...@gm...> wrote: >>>>> Is there a way to specify the default ordering of newly opened game >>>>> list to be date desc? >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> >>>> Message: 4 >>>> Date: Mon, 04 May 2015 00:41:31 +0100 >>>> From: Valente Silva <gu...@ne...> >>>> Subject: Re: [Scidvspc-users] Game list default ordering >>>> To: sci...@li... >>>> Message-ID: <554...@ne...> >>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed >>>> >>>> Click on top of the date column and you can sort it ascending or >>>> descending. Or type Control+End and you go to the end of the list, then >>>> up... I don't see the need to get more than this. >>>> >>>> On 03-05-2015 23:28, Maksim Grinman wrote: >>>>> That works well, but I was hoping for a way to keep the default sorted >>>>> descending (latest at the top) rather than oldest first. If it's a >>>>> feature worth adding, maybe point me to the place in the code where I >>>>> can look? I'm might tinker with it (not familiar with the codebase). >>>>> >>>>> On Sun, May 3, 2015 at 2:45 PM, Maksim Grinman <ma...@gm...> >>>> wrote: >>>>>> Is there a way to specify the default ordering of newly opened game >>>>>> list to be date desc? >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>>> One dashboard for servers and applications across Physical-Virtual-Cloud >>>>> Widest out-of-the-box monitoring support with 50+ applications >>>>> Performance metrics, stats and reports that give you Actionable Insights >>>>> Deep dive visibility with transaction tracing using APM Insight. >>>>> http://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/290420510;117567292;y >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Scidvspc-users mailing list >>>>> Sci...@li... >>>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/scidvspc-users >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>> One dashboard for servers and applications across Physical-Virtual-Cloud >>>> Widest out-of-the-box monitoring support with 50+ applications >>>> Performance metrics, stats and reports that give you Actionable Insights >>>> Deep dive visibility with transaction tracing using APM Insight. >>>> http://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/290420510;117567292;y >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Scidvspc-users mailing list >>>> Sci...@li... >>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/scidvspc-users >>>> >>>> >>>> End of Scidvspc-users Digest, Vol 41, Issue 1 >>>> ********************************************* >>>> >>> -------------- next part -------------- >>> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Message: 2 >>> Date: Mon, 04 May 2015 22:58:46 +0100 >>> From: Valente Silva <gu...@ne...> >>> Subject: Re: [Scidvspc-users] Scidvspc-users Digest, Vol 41, Issue 1 >>> To: sci...@li... >>> Message-ID: <554...@ne...> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" >>> >>> Ascending is the standard for databases, ever was. For some reason we >>> learned the alphabet like a-b-c and the numeric system like 1-2-3. >>> >>> On 04-05-2015 15:55, Maksim Grinman wrote: >>>> It's a matter of defaults. Maybe I'm alone in this, but when you open >>>> a games file, say your pgn of blitz games online, don't you want it to >>>> open with the most recent games on top? >>>> >>>> On May 4, 2015 8:00 AM, <sci...@li... >>>> <mailto:sci...@li...>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Send Scidvspc-users mailing list submissions to >>>> sci...@li... >>>> <mailto:sci...@li...> >>>> >>>> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/scidvspc-users >>>> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >>>> sci...@li... >>>> <mailto:sci...@li...> >>>> >>>> You can reach the person managing the list at >>>> sci...@li... >>>> <mailto:sci...@li...> >>>> >>>> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >>>> than "Re: Contents of Scidvspc-users digest..." >>>> >>>> >>>> Today's Topics: >>>> >>>> 1. Game list default ordering (Maksim Grinman) >>>> 2. Re: Game list default ordering (Steve A) >>>> 3. Re: Game list default ordering (Maksim Grinman) >>>> 4. Re: Game list default ordering (Valente Silva) >>>> >>>> >>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> >>>> Message: 1 >>>> Date: Sun, 3 May 2015 14:45:57 -0400 >>>> From: Maksim Grinman <ma...@gm... <mailto:ma...@gm...>> >>>> Subject: [Scidvspc-users] Game list default ordering >>>> To: scidvspc mailing list <sci...@li... >>>> <mailto:sci...@li...>> >>>> Message-ID: >>>> >>>> <CAGRtvOcfH_fBbfU_SVLZNEPEYL2X_DBhABbOQzahym0efDAb=g...@ma... <mailto:g...@ma...>> >>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 >>>> >>>> Is there a way to specify the default ordering of newly opened game >>>> list to be date desc? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> >>>> Message: 2 >>>> Date: Mon, 4 May 2015 06:51:47 +1000 >>>> From: Steve A <ste...@gm... <mailto:ste...@gm...>> >>>> Subject: Re: [Scidvspc-users] Game list default ordering >>>> To: Maksim Grinman <ma...@gm... <mailto:ma...@gm...>>, >>>> scidvspc-users >>>> <sci...@li... >>>> <mailto:sci...@li...>> >>>> Message-ID: >>>> >>>> <CAKDNZpFi82oj5vzdUvmxDM9aaA65jjjgSOt-6afKX_sPxP+F=w...@ma... <mailto:w...@ma...>> >>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 >>>> >>>> Once a database is sorted, it is always that way. >>>> (Though this does not apply to pgn files or read-only databases). >>>> If you sort by date, after re-opening the database it will still be >>>> sorted, but the little triangle on the date column heading will not be >>>> shown. >>>> See the sort help topics. >>>> >>>> Alternatively , you may also wish to set a database to autoload the >>>> last game (Maintenance window->Autoload game) >>>> >>>> S.A. >>>> >>>> On Mon, May 4, 2015 at 4:45 AM, Maksim Grinman <ma...@gm... >>>> <mailto:ma...@gm...>> wrote: >>>> > Is there a way to specify the default ordering of newly opened game >>>> > list to be date desc? >>>> > >>>> > >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>> > One dashboard for servers and applications across >>>> Physical-Virtual-Cloud >>>> > Widest out-of-the-box monitoring support with 50+ applications >>>> > Performance metrics, stats and reports that give you Actionable >>>> Insights >>>> > Deep dive visibility with transaction tracing using APM Insight. >>>> > http://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/290420510;117567292;y >>>> > _______________________________________________ >>>> > Scidvspc-users mailing list >>>> > Sci...@li... >>>> <mailto:Sci...@li...> >>>> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/scidvspc-users >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> >>>> Message: 3 >>>> Date: Sun, 3 May 2015 18:28:45 -0400 >>>> From: Maksim Grinman <ma...@gm... <mailto:ma...@gm...>> >>>> Subject: Re: [Scidvspc-users] Game list default ordering >>>> To: scidvspc mailing list <sci...@li... >>>> <mailto:sci...@li...>> >>>> Message-ID: >>>> >>>> <CAG...@ma... <mailto:CAG...@ma...>> >>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 >>>> >>>> That works well, but I was hoping for a way to keep the default sorted >>>> descending (latest at the top) rather than oldest first. If it's a >>>> feature worth adding, maybe point me to the place in the code where I >>>> can look? I'm might tinker with it (not familiar with the codebase). >>>> >>>> On Sun, May 3, 2015 at 2:45 PM, Maksim Grinman <ma...@gm... >>>> <mailto:ma...@gm...>> wrote: >>>> > Is there a way to specify the default ordering of newly opened game >>>> > list to be date desc? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> >>>> Message: 4 >>>> Date: Mon, 04 May 2015 00:41:31 +0100 >>>> From: Valente Silva <gu...@ne... <mailto:gu...@ne...>> >>>> Subject: Re: [Scidvspc-users] Game list default ordering >>>> To: sci...@li... >>>> <mailto:sci...@li...> >>>> Message-ID: <554...@ne... >>>> <mailto:554...@ne...>> >>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed >>>> >>>> Click on top of the date column and you can sort it ascending or >>>> descending. Or type Control+End and you go to the end of the list, >>>> then >>>> up... I don't see the need to get more than this. >>>> >>>> On 03-05-2015 23:28, Maksim Grinman wrote: >>>> > That works well, but I was hoping for a way to keep the default >>>> sorted >>>> > descending (latest at the top) rather than oldest first. If it's a >>>> > feature worth adding, maybe point me to the place in the code >>>> where I >>>> > can look? I'm might tinker with it (not familiar with the codebase). >>>> > >>>> > On Sun, May 3, 2015 at 2:45 PM, Maksim Grinman >>>> <ma...@gm... <mailto:ma...@gm...>> wrote: >>>> >> Is there a way to specify the default ordering of newly opened game >>>> >> list to be date desc? >>>> > >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>> > One dashboard for servers and applications across >>>> Physical-Virtual-Cloud >>>> > Widest out-of-the-box monitoring support with 50+ applications >>>> > Performance metrics, stats and reports that give you Actionable >>>> Insights >>>> > Deep dive visibility with transaction tracing using APM Insight. >>>> > http://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/290420510;117567292;y >>>> > _______________________________________________ >>>> > Scidvspc-users mailing list >>>> > Sci...@li... >>>> <mailto:Sci...@li...> >>>> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/scidvspc-users >>>> > >>>> > >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>> One dashboard for servers and applications across >>>> Physical-Virtual-Cloud >>>> Widest out-of-the-box monitoring support with 50+ applications >>>> Performance metrics, stats and reports that give you Actionable >>>> Insights >>>> Deep dive visibility with transaction tracing using APM Insight. >>>> http://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/290420510;117567292;y >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Scidvspc-users mailing list >>>> Sci...@li... >>>> <mailto:Sci...@li...> >>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/scidvspc-users >>>> >>>> >>>> End of Scidvspc-users Digest, Vol 41, Issue 1 >>>> ********************************************* >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>> One dashboard for servers and applications across Physical-Virtual-Cloud >>>> Widest out-of-the-box monitoring support with 50+ applications >>>> Performance metrics, stats and reports that give you Actionable Insights >>>> Deep dive visibility with transaction tracing using APM Insight. >>>> http://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/290420510;117567292;y >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Scidvspc-users mailing list >>>> Sci...@li... >>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/scidvspc-users >>> -------------- next part -------------- >>> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> One dashboard for servers and applications across Physical-Virtual-Cloud >>> Widest out-of-the-box monitoring support with 50+ applications >>> Performance metrics, stats and reports that give you Actionable Insights >>> Deep dive visibility with transaction tracing using APM Insight. >>> http://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/290420510;117567292;y >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Scidvspc-users mailing list >>> Sci...@li... >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/scidvspc-users >>> >>> >>> End of Scidvspc-users Digest, Vol 41, Issue 2 >>> ********************************************* > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > One dashboard for servers and applications across Physical-Virtual-Cloud > Widest out-of-the-box monitoring support with 50+ applications > Performance metrics, stats and reports that give you Actionable Insights > Deep dive visibility with transaction tracing using APM Insight. > http://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/290420510;117567292;y > _______________________________________________ > Scidvspc-users mailing list > Sci...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/scidvspc-users > > |
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