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[Scidvspc-users] Latex

[Steve A <ste...@gm...>]

We have someone making an additional implementation of "Export Game(s)
to LaTeX" using the Skak package instead of Chess12. It looks quite
nice (snippet attached).

So i've been examining our current Latex game export using the Chess12
fonts, and have found some bugs; mostly concerning fitting the game on
the pages properly.

Does anyone have any hints/suggestions about using this feature ?

cheers, S.

[Scidvspc-users] Latex

[Benigno H. <sn...@ya...>]

Hi
Export in latex handles character sets in English so we must add a line in tkscid.cpp:
old_language = 0
for the export of the chess game in latex.
Thanks

Re: [Scidvspc-users] Latex

[Dale H. <dal...@go...>]

I don't have any suggestions as such but I'd love to see skak used as the
default if the results are as good as the snippet. The analysis graph and
the arrows on the board are particularly nice.

Regards
Dale


On 22 August 2014 14:57, Steve A <ste...@gm...> wrote:

> We have someone making an additional implementation of "Export Game(s)
> to LaTeX" using the Skak package instead of Chess12. It looks quite
> nice (snippet attached).
>
> So i've been examining our current Latex game export using the Chess12
> fonts, and have found some bugs; mostly concerning fitting the game on
> the pages properly.
>
> Does anyone have any hints/suggestions about using this feature ?
>
> cheers, S.
>
>
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Re: [Scidvspc-users] Latex

[Mark D. <mar...@gm...>]

Thanks for the kind words Dale. Though if the older format is in use,
dropping it for something new without even a crossover period might not be
the best idea.

Steve, I don't mind taking a peek at the chess12 format as well, it might
well be the same problem we have with the skak format when the spacing of
the diagrams goes barmy.


On 22 August 2014 15:12, Dale Hards <dal...@go...> wrote:

> I don't have any suggestions as such but I'd love to see skak used as the
> default if the results are as good as the snippet. The analysis graph and
> the arrows on the board are particularly nice.
>
> Regards
> Dale
>
>
> On 22 August 2014 14:57, Steve A <ste...@gm...> wrote:
>
>> We have someone making an additional implementation of "Export Game(s)
>> to LaTeX" using the Skak package instead of Chess12. It looks quite
>> nice (snippet attached).
>>
>> So i've been examining our current Latex game export using the Chess12
>> fonts, and have found some bugs; mostly concerning fitting the game on
>> the pages properly.
>>
>> Does anyone have any hints/suggestions about using this feature ?
>>
>> cheers, S.
>>
>>
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Re: [Scidvspc-users] Latex

[Alan W. <a.c...@gm...>]

Hi Mark,

Chess12 seems to be an outdated and unmaintained package. The font, and 
instructions to use this font, is difficult to find and even more 
difficult to install. One has to follow a complex array of arcane and 
convoluted instructions which requires manual installation of each font 
folder. I could never do it successfully.

On my Linux Mint box, I had to install texlive and texlive-games in 
order to print my games with diagrams. I'm not sure what font package 
texlive-games includes.

Skak may offer a better font and hopefully a better installation 
experience. Maybe.

On 08/22/2014 07:53 AM, Mark Dennehy wrote:
> Thanks for the kind words Dale. Though if the older format is in use, 
> dropping it for something new without even a crossover period might 
> not be the best idea.
>
> Steve, I don't mind taking a peek at the chess12 format as well, it 
> might well be the same problem we have with the skak format when the 
> spacing of the diagrams goes barmy.
>
>
> On 22 August 2014 15:12, Dale Hards <dal...@go... 
> <mailto:dal...@go...>> wrote:
>
>     I don't have any suggestions as such but I'd love to see skak used
>     as the default if the results are as good as the snippet. The
>     analysis graph and the arrows on the board are particularly nice.
>
>     Regards
>     Dale
>
>
>     On 22 August 2014 14:57, Steve A <ste...@gm...
>     <mailto:ste...@gm...>> wrote:
>
>         We have someone making an additional implementation of "Export
>         Game(s)
>         to LaTeX" using the Skak package instead of Chess12. It looks
>         quite
>         nice (snippet attached).
>
>         So i've been examining our current Latex game export using the
>         Chess12
>         fonts, and have found some bugs; mostly concerning fitting the
>         game on
>         the pages properly.
>
>         Does anyone have any hints/suggestions about using this feature ?
>
>         cheers, S.
>
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Re: [Scidvspc-users] Latex

[Mark D. <mar...@gm...>]

Hi Alan,
Yeah, I had a similar experience with chess12, I suspect that it was far
more prevalent amongst Latex209 users than Latex2e users. Thing about Latex
is though, it gets used by people who just want a working tool because
they're more interested in using it to make stuff than tweaking the tools;
so Latex tends to stick around for ages -- there may well be a bunch of 209
users still out there using it just because it hasn't broken yet even
though 2e took over from 209 twenty years ago. And stripping it out
completely is about ten minutes work (I actually did it before writing the
skak code just to keep it clean and then unstripped it) so leaving it in
costs us nothing at the moment.

With the skak package, miktex and texlive both include all the necessary
bits and pieces more or less by default (or will automatically download
them). It's not just skak; we're using KOMA-Script and pstricks as well.
I've tried to keep the number of packages in use down, but it's a balancing
act between the cool stuff you can do being useful enough to bring in more
users and the things you need to do to install that cool stuff being
painful enough to drive away more users.


On 23 August 2014 18:08, Alan Whiteman <a.c...@gm...> wrote:

> Hi Mark,
>
> Chess12 seems to be an outdated and unmaintained package. The font, and
> instructions to use this font, is difficult to find and even more
> difficult to install. One has to follow a complex array of arcane and
> convoluted instructions which requires manual installation of each font
> folder. I could never do it successfully.
>
> On my Linux Mint box, I had to install texlive and texlive-games in
> order to print my games with diagrams. I'm not sure what font package
> texlive-games includes.
>
> Skak may offer a better font and hopefully a better installation
> experience. Maybe.
>
> On 08/22/2014 07:53 AM, Mark Dennehy wrote:
> > Thanks for the kind words Dale. Though if the older format is in use,
> > dropping it for something new without even a crossover period might
> > not be the best idea.
> >
> > Steve, I don't mind taking a peek at the chess12 format as well, it
> > might well be the same problem we have with the skak format when the
> > spacing of the diagrams goes barmy.
> >
> >
> > On 22 August 2014 15:12, Dale Hards <dal...@go...
> > <mailto:dal...@go...>> wrote:
> >
> >     I don't have any suggestions as such but I'd love to see skak used
> >     as the default if the results are as good as the snippet. The
> >     analysis graph and the arrows on the board are particularly nice.
> >
> >     Regards
> >     Dale
> >
> >
> >     On 22 August 2014 14:57, Steve A <ste...@gm...
> >     <mailto:ste...@gm...>> wrote:
> >
> >         We have someone making an additional implementation of "Export
> >         Game(s)
> >         to LaTeX" using the Skak package instead of Chess12. It looks
> >         quite
> >         nice (snippet attached).
> >
> >         So i've been examining our current Latex game export using the
> >         Chess12
> >         fonts, and have found some bugs; mostly concerning fitting the
> >         game on
> >         the pages properly.
> >
> >         Does anyone have any hints/suggestions about using this feature ?
> >
> >         cheers, S.
> >
> >
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