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[Scidvspc-users] Question regarding the training feature (tree window)

[Andreas E. <gre...@gm...>]

Hi,
 
I'd like to use the training feature in the tree window to practice my opening repertoire but the way to activate it seems to be a bit cumbersome. So to be sure I don't make anything wrong I describe the steps how I activate it:

1. open a database (as tree)
2. select the training option in the tree window
3. start a training game against an engine (?!)
4. now, in the appearing chess clock window, I have to cancel the game to prevent computer moves (?!)
5. start practicing

I don't understand step 3 and 4 but without them, scid vs pc just doesn't answer when I make a move. Furthermore, when I make a wrong move, scid vs pc just stops, without any message or hint and when I want to restart the training session, I have to repeat the steps above. This seems to be a bit odd.

Another question: this typical Motif design looks quite outdated to say the least, but when I select Options -> Design -> clam nothing happens. Any hints?

Thanks & regards,
Andreas

Re: [Scidvspc-users] Question regarding the training feature (tree window)

[Steve A <ste...@gm...>]

Hi Andreas

> I'd like to use the training feature in the tree window to practice my opening repertoire but the way to activate it seems to be a bit cumbersome. So to be sure I don't make anything wrong I describe the steps how I activate it:
>
> 1. open a database (as tree)
> 2. select the training option in the tree window
> 3. start a training game against an engine (?!)
> 4. now, in the appearing chess clock window, I have to cancel the game to prevent computer moves (?!)
> 5. start practicing
>
> I don't understand step 3 and 4 but without them, scid vs pc just doesn't answer when I make a move.

I think your step 3 is wrong. This is how it works for me -

1. open a database and tree.
2. make sure it is your move, and select the training option in the tree window
3. Make a move - Scid will then play a move from tree.  If your move
takes out of tree, no move is made.

Obviously , this feature is not too polished.

Steve

[Scidvspc-users] Fw: Aw: Re: Question regarding the training feature (tree window)

[<gre...@gm...>]

Sorry, wrong address, my first reply went to Steve directly ...


> Hello Steve
> 
> 
> > I think your step 3 is wrong. This is how it works for me -
> > 
> > 1. open a database and tree.
> > 2. make sure it is your move, and select the training option in the tree window
> > 3. Make a move - Scid will then play a move from tree.  If your move
> > takes out of tree, no move is made.
> 
> Strange. When I follow your steps and I make my first move nothing happens. I use the Linux version by the way. This is why I desperately try to get it to work because there are no other opening trainers under Linux as far as I'm aware of. There are two or three for Windows, but they don't work with Wine.
> 
> > Obviously , this feature is not too polished.
> 
> I tend to agree but I'm not too disappointed anyway because scid vs pc is a great chess DB application. 
> 
> Thanks for your assistance,
> Andreas

Re: [Scidvspc-users] Question regarding the training feature (tree window)

[Alan W. <a.c...@gm...>]

On 10/04/2013 09:15 PM, Steve A wrote:
> Hi Andreas
>
>> I'd like to use the training feature in the tree window to practice my opening repertoire but the way to activate it seems to be a bit cumbersome. So to be sure I don't make anything wrong I describe the steps how I activate it:
>>
>> 1. open a database (as tree)
>> 2. select the training option in the tree window
>> 3. start a training game against an engine (?!)
>> 4. now, in the appearing chess clock window, I have to cancel the game to prevent computer moves (?!)
>> 5. start practicing
>>
>> I don't understand step 3 and 4 but without them, scid vs pc just doesn't answer when I make a move.
> I think your step 3 is wrong. This is how it works for me -
>
> 1. open a database and tree.
> 2. make sure it is your move, and select the training option in the tree window
> 3. Make a move - Scid will then play a move from tree.  If your move
> takes out of tree, no move is made.
>
> Obviously , this feature is not too polished.
>
> Steve
>
> --

Isn't this method of training merely memorizing opening moves?

Re: [Scidvspc-users] Question regarding the training feature (tree window)

[<gre...@gm...>]

Hi all,

> > 1. open a database and tree.
> > 2. make sure it is your move, and select the training option in the tree window
> > 3. Make a move - Scid will then play a move from tree.  If your move
> > takes out of tree, no move is made.
> >
> > Obviously , this feature is not too polished.
> >
> > Steve
> >
> > --
> 
> Isn't this method of training merely memorizing opening moves?

Yes, so you always need to know the strategical ideas behind every opening you learn, which means, that you clearly need to know _both_ (at least above ELO 1600), the best lines and the concept behind it.