Re: [sahana-maindev] [Sahana-user] Sahana Online Translation

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Hello Chamindra, all,

Well, some information regarding this:

1) I have added a front page to the EDRS server (where the PootleServer 
http://ots.nursix.org is hosted). This page provides all recent news and 
general information about the EDRS - just to provide some quality of service. 
You may access this site at http://edrs.nursix.org

2) The Pootle itself contains some general help on using Pootle, as well as 
some links to external resources where you can read more about it. While this 
is not enough (especially regarding the workflow), I will surely put some 
more information to the EDRS and/or the nursix.org Wiki, and link this from 
the PootleServer's Homepage.

3) I'm currently elaborating particular workflows, but the general workflow is 
as follows:
- the administrator (i.e. me :-$ ) sets up projects and languages, and loads 
up the template files
- every registered user can make suggestions to each and every translation in 
progress on the server
- certain users will be approved as "Translation Reviewers/Maintainers" for a 
particular language, and those will review (and accept/decline) the 
suggestions made or add their own translations
- everybody, registered or not, can always download the latest .po/.mo files 
for each language directly from the PootleServer and install them directly to 
Sahana. The Sahana team may consider to take up a particular translation to 
the original distribution, but this is not implicitly neccessary (I'd rather 
suggest to take the translations into the demo at sahana.lk :-) ).

4) To become a "Translation Reviewer/Maintainer" you should be a native 
speaker of the particular language and kinda familiar with Sahana, i.e. you 
should at least be registered to one of the mailing lists of the Sahana 
community.

5) I'll leave the PootleServer running as long as I'm able to fund and 
maintain it, regardless of a probable installation on sahana.lk - in case the 
Sahana core team once will set up a PootleServer on sahana.lk, I'll consider 
to shrink the EDRS installation to european languages. I think there's 
nothing wrong with that, especially since Pootle devours the more system 
resources the more languages you install.

6) I'm unsure if it makes sense to take up unstable template files. Of course 
you can once "merge" the files, but that way you may probably double the 
work.

Kind regards,
Dominic

lördag, 31. maj 2008 04:20 skrev du:
> Dear Users and Translators,
>
> Please do let us know if this interface will be effective to help
> coordinate collaborative localization and translation. Dominic, thanks
> for doing this and if everyone is comfortable with this, we can look
> to host this on the sahana.lk site.
>
> Possibly you can also provide a links to some online help/howtos on
> how to use the system as well.
>
> On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 1:02 AM, Dominic König <do...@nu...> wrote:
> > Hello Ravi,
> >
> > well - did it:
> >
> > It should now be possible to access the PootleServer for Online
> > Translation of Sahana through http://ots.nursix.org (i.e. Port 80).
> >
> > I have enabled Review rights on your account to the Burmese branch.
> >
> > During the next days, I will consider setting up CVS.
> >
> > So long,
> > Dominic
> >
> > torsdag, 29. maj 2008 16:36 skrev du:
> >> Hello Dominic,
> >> This is pretty cool. Would it be possible for you to configure
> >> mod_proxy as well so that we can access via apache port 80? People in
> >> my country can't access 8080.
> >>
> >> Also noticed that Burmese is named as "Myanmarsa". The ISO/Unicode
> >> approved name for the script "my" would be Burmese. The country is
> >> Myanmar, and we have Karen, Shan and Mon scripts as well, hence no
> >> single script/language is Myanmar or "Myanmarsar". Please do change
> >> that. Thanks.
> >>
> >> I am trying to find out if Pootle allows adding comments? I am
> >> thinking of allowing comments so that contributors could provide
> >> feedback and what they think of the each translated string. That way
> >> the actual string need not keep changing. Since poEdit has UI for
> >> adding comments, I believe this should be possible with pootle as
> >> well.
> >>
> >> Also is your pootle server configured to use CVS so that we can roll
> >> back to a previous version? I would like to be reviewer of Burmese, i
> >> have already registered there as well with username 'ravi'. Many
> >> thanks for the setup.
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >> Ravi.
> >>
> >> On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 8:21 PM, Dominic König <do...@nu...> 
wrote:
> >> > Hello Ravi,
> >> >
> >> > don't bother :-)
> >> >
> >> > As I already told Chamindra, there IS a Pootle for Sahana running and
> >> > ready for use at http://edrs.nursix.org:8080 with 10 languages already
> >> > configured.
> >> >
> >> > I will of course take up your file there, for further revision and
> >> > improvement.
> >> >
> >> > Please anybody notify me if you are a native speaker in any of the
> >> > configured languages and you want to be a reviewer for the particular
> >> > translation.
> >> >
> >> > Perhaps Chamindra makes it possible to shift this Pootle to the Sahana
> >> > server, but for the time being, you all may use the one at EDRS.
> >> >
> >> > If you have suggestions for other languages, please let me know.
> >> >
> >> > Regards,
> >> > Dominic
> >> >
> >> > torsdag, 29. maj 2008 13:25 skrev Ravi Chhabra:
> >> >> The following is the same mail I have sent to the list, but without
> >> >> attaching the po file as it got caught due to message being larger
> >> >> than 40K. Here's the link to the file:
> >> >> http://sahana-localization.googlegroups.com/web/sahana_my_MM.po?gda=L
> >> >>HD4 SkA
> >> >> AAADfhvBl8bNacNpPGYzRvLCWhOcHNmAPLLByIswRa9NG7mG1qiJ7UbTIup-M2XPURDQ9
> >> >>-JX fRqE ElBYes9b1YyRc
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Dear Community,
> >> >> We are a team from Myanmar and have been taking a keen interest in
> >> >> the localization process of Sahana into our native language. We have
> >> >> now completed manually translating and cleaning up all the work done
> >> >> by various translators.  We have used poEdit togather with Paduak 2.1
> >> >> font for the translation. Cleanup work and changes here and there
> >> >> have been introduced into this po file. Completion is 100%, every
> >> >> word is manually entered, i.e. Translation Memory was not used. The
> >> >> quality of the translation will be further improved. I am currently
> >> >> testing out pootle so to initiate comments on the the strings. It is
> >> >> currently setup @ http://translate.novasteps.com.  The server keeps
> >> >> going down most of the time, hence I have also opened a project on
> >> >> sourceforge under http://myanmarsar.sourceforge.net will configure
> >> >> pootle in the coming days. However it may make more sense to host
> >> >> this on Sahana allowing editing of more than just the Burmese
> >> >> language.
> >> >>
> >> >> I have read on the yahoo groups list that Chamindra is looking for a
> >> >> volunteer to setup Pootle. This would be great, as my setup server is
> >> >> too tiny and would not be able to host more than one language.  And
> >> >> it would make sense to not repeat ourselves. In other words I offer
> >> >> to do the Pootle setup for sahana.
> >> >>
> >> >> I would also like to extend my thanks and give credit to two key
> >> >> members of my team who did most of the translation work. Yan Linn
> >> >> Aung and Nwe Ni Soe, many thanks.  And thanks to the score of
> >> >> translators who did the initial work within a very short period of
> >> >> time.
> >> >>
> >> >> Link to sahana po file:
> >> >> http://sahana-localization.googlegroups.com/web/sahana_my_MM.po?gda=L
> >> >>HD4 SkA
> >> >> AAADfhvBl8bNacNpPGYzRvLCWhOcHNmAPLLByIswRa9NG7mG1qiJ7UbTIup-M2XPURDQ9
> >> >>-JX fRqE ElBYes9b1YyRc
> >> >>
> >> >> Cheers,
> >> >> Ravi.
> >> >>
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