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Re: [S3b-users] [JeromeDL-users] nlqueries_it properties

[Giuseppe B. <giu...@al...>]

Hi Sebastian,
please takes into account some additional feedback from my current work on nlqueries_it translation and, in general, on nlqueries customization:

1) nlq_locale.x=yy: 
I enabled  the nlq_locale.x=yy  for all the available nlqueries_yy templates (that is: en, it, pl, de, pt_BR, uk), however only the nlqueries_pt_BR template, when invoked, is able to show, in its own language, both the NL query options, in the selectabe text area, and  the selected one, in the body of the query window (really, the last available options, about finding of articles in a given domain, is still shown in English). This behavior occurs also on http://bleedingedge.jeromedl.org./.

2) nlq_template.x.regexp.x expressions: 
an explanation grammar could be useful to easily allow users to customize the expressions;

3) Show me all publications in the library: 
this option still fails, as from my  report JWA-533; I tried to replace the  current "Select" query with the old "Construct" one, but the failure remains: it is not a problem of query but of its invoking code.

4) More general  RDF queries:  it could be useful to allow users to set more general rdf queries. I tried the following query about authors of the published books: 

Select DISTINCT *

FROM {r} marcont:hasCreator {} foaf:name {t}; foaf:mbox {m}

USING NAMESPACE  marcont = <http://www.marcont.org/ontology#>, foaf = <http://xmlns.com/foaf/0.1/>

As from the above query, it could be useful to extract some information about authors  of publications (ex. the email address, or the biography), but the JDL result concerns only the list of publications, without the required additional information about the related authors.



Not more to add: I hope the above feedback could soon have suitable solutions.



Cheers,

Giuseppe



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From: "Giuseppe Bux" <giu...@al...>
To: "Sebastian Kruk" <seb...@gm...>
Cc: "Sebastian Kruk" <seb...@de...>; "Maria Cammarrota" <cam...@or...>; "Antonio Chieti" <in...@or...>; "JeromeDL Users" <jer...@li...>
Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2008 6:26 PM
Subject: Re: [JeromeDL-users] nlqueries_it properties


> Hi Sebastian,
> 
> see below inline my answers.
> Moreover: where can I read about the grammar of
> nlq_template.0.regexp.0 ?
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> Giuseppe
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Sebastian Kruk" <seb...@gm...>
> To: "Giuseppe Bux" <giu...@al...>
> Cc: "Sebastian Kruk" <seb...@de...>; "Maria Cammarrota" 
> <cam...@or...>; "Antonio Chieti" <in...@or...>; 
> "JeromeDL Users" <jer...@li...>
> Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2008 4:40 PM
> Subject: Re: [JeromeDL-users] nlqueries_it properties
> 
> 
> Hi Giuseppe,
> 
> just from the top of my head:
> 
> 1) Did you update nlqueries_rdf.properties
> 
> e.g.:
> 
> nlq_locale.0=en
> nlq_locale.1=pt_BR
> nlq_locale.2=it
> nlq_locale.count=3
> 
> ?
> yes, I  did.
> 
> 2) looking at your screenshot - I have noticed that you have language
> "en " selected and the rest of the page is in Italian - how that
> happened? Maybe this is the cause?
> 
> The same is with "it" label selected.
> 
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> S.
> 
> -- seb...@gm...
> -- GG: 335067,
> -- Jabber: seb...@gm...
> -- Skype: sebastiankruk
> -- WWW: http://www.sebastiankruk.com/
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 8 May 2008, at 15:17, Giuseppe Bux wrote:
> 
>> Hi Sebastian,
>> I’m working to the Italian translation of the  nlqueries_en.properties. 
>> Please read, in the following, the  translation example on the 
>> nlq.template.0. After the translation I  rebuilt the s3b_nlq.jar and 
>> copied it both in the jeromedl/lib and  in the tomcat/lib folders.
>> The result is as in http://screencast.com/t/SY7dY7xLH3 : that is, I 
>> obtain the translation in the body of the NLQ window but  in the  option 
>> selection text  area the English text still remains.
>> Obviously I updated also the nlqnlqueries_rdf.properties.
>> What is missing/wrong in my translation process?
>>
>> Thank you,
>> Giuseppe
>>
>>
>> # -- template definition (0) ------
>> nlq_template.0.example_template=Mostra tutte le pubblicazioni  registrate 
>> in libreria.
>> nlq_template.0.explain         =Mostra tutte le pubblicazioni/ risorse 
>> registrate in questa libreria digitale.
>> nlq_template.0.regexp.0        =Mostra\\s+(?:mi)?\\s*(?:tutte\\s+| 
>> ogni\\s+|qualsiasi)?\\s*(?:risorsa[e]?\\s+|pubblicazione[i]?\\s+| 
>> articolo[i]?\\s+|(?:qualsiasi)?oggetto)?\\s*in\\s+(?:nella\\s+| 
>> questa)?\\s*(digital)?\\s*library[\\s.?!]*$
>> # nlq_template.0.regexp.0        =Show\\s+(?:me)?\\s*(?:all\\s+|each\ 
>> \s+|every)?\\s*(?:resource[s]?\\s+|publication[s]?\\s+|article[s]?\\s 
>> +|(?:every)?thing)?\\s*in\\s+(?:the\\s+|this)?\\s*(digital)?\ 
>> \s*library[\\s.?!]*$
>> nlq_template.0.regexp.count    =1
>>
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Re: [S3b-users] [JeromeDL-users] nlqueries_it properties

[Sebastian K. <seb...@gm...>]

Dear Giuseppe,

I am sorry for getting back to you that late - but we are all still  
recovering from the DERI Review madness last week :)

To answer your questions:
1) did you change nlq_locale.count value?

2) take a look at http://wiki.s3b.corrib.org/NLQ and let me know if it  
requires any further explanation

3) fixed - there were two issues there: a) a group capture definition  
in regexp b) missing USING NAMESPACE in SeRQL query

4) At the moment NLQ only allows to define SELECT queries which return  
a vector of results (not a table). Further more, JeromeDL cannot  
render (currently) other objects than library resources. An option  
would be to use MBB to render results. However, at this stage I do not  
plan (in the near future) to extend NLQ since I do not have time /  
people / resources to do it. But I do get your point, and I think it  
is valid. Can you please send a ticket to JIRA with it?

Thanks,

Sebastian


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On 12 May 2008, at 09:36, Giuseppe Bux wrote:

> Hi Sebastian,
> please takes into account some additional feedback from my current  
> work on nlqueries_it translation and, in general, on nlqueries  
> customization:
>
> 1) nlq_locale.x=yy:
> I enabled  the nlq_locale.x=yy  for all the available nlqueries_yy  
> templates (that is: en, it, pl, de, pt_BR, uk), however only the  
> nlqueries_pt_BR template, when invoked, is able to show, in its own  
> language, both the NL query options, in the selectabe text area,  
> and  the selected one, in the body of the query window (really, the  
> last available options, about finding of articles in a given domain,  
> is still shown in English). This behavior occurs also on http://bleedingedge.jeromedl.org./ 
> .
>
> 2) nlq_template.x.regexp.x expressions:
> an explanation grammar could be useful to easily allow users to  
> customize the expressions;
>
> 3) Show me all publications in the library:
> this option still fails, as from my  report JWA-533; I tried to  
> replace the  current "Select" query with the old "Construct" one,  
> but the failure remains: it is not a problem of query but of its  
> invoking code.
>
> 4) More general  RDF queries:  it could be useful to allow users to  
> set more general rdf queries. I tried the following query about  
> authors of the published books:
>
> Select DISTINCT *
> FROM {r} marcont:hasCreator {} foaf:name {t}; foaf:mbox {m}
> USING NAMESPACE  marcont = <http://www.marcont.org/ontology#>, foaf  
> = <http://xmlns.com/foaf/0.1/>
> As from the above query, it could be useful to extract some  
> information about authors  of publications (ex. the email address,  
> or the biography), but the JDL result concerns only the list of  
> publications, without the required additional information about the  
> related authors.
>
>
> Not more to add: I hope the above feedback could soon have suitable  
> solutions.
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> Giuseppe
>
>
>  ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Giuseppe Bux" <giu...@al...>
> To: "Sebastian Kruk" <seb...@gm...>
> Cc: "Sebastian Kruk" <seb...@de...>; "Maria Cammarrota" <cam...@or... 
> >; "Antonio Chieti" <in...@or...>; "JeromeDL Users" <jer...@li... 
> >
> Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2008 6:26 PM
> Subject: Re: [JeromeDL-users] nlqueries_it properties
>
> > Hi Sebastian,
> >
> > see below inline my answers.
> > Moreover: where can I read about the grammar of
> > nlq_template.0.regexp.0 ?
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Giuseppe
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Sebastian Kruk" <seb...@gm...>
> > To: "Giuseppe Bux" <giu...@al...>
> > Cc: "Sebastian Kruk" <seb...@de...>; "Maria Cammarrota"
> > <cam...@or...>; "Antonio Chieti"  
> <in...@or...>;
> > "JeromeDL Users" <jer...@li...>
> > Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2008 4:40 PM
> > Subject: Re: [JeromeDL-users] nlqueries_it properties
> >
> >
> > Hi Giuseppe,
> >
> > just from the top of my head:
> >
> > 1) Did you update nlqueries_rdf.properties
> >
> > e.g.:
> >
> > nlq_locale.0=en
> > nlq_locale.1=pt_BR
> > nlq_locale.2=it
> > nlq_locale.count=3
> >
> > ?
> > yes, I  did.
> >
> > 2) looking at your screenshot - I have noticed that you have  
> language
> > "en " selected and the rest of the page is in Italian - how that
> > happened? Maybe this is the cause?
> >
> > The same is with "it" label selected.
> >
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > S.
> >
> > -- seb...@gm...
> > -- GG: 335067,
> > -- Jabber: seb...@gm...
> > -- Skype: sebastiankruk
> > -- WWW: http://www.sebastiankruk.com/
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 8 May 2008, at 15:17, Giuseppe Bux wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Sebastian,
> >> I’m working to the Italian translation of the   
> nlqueries_en.properties.
> >> Please read, in the following, the  translation example on the
> >> nlq.template.0. After the translation I  rebuilt the s3b_nlq.jar  
> and
> >> copied it both in the jeromedl/lib and  in the tomcat/lib folders.
> >> The result is as in http://screencast.com/t/SY7dY7xLH3 : that is, I
> >> obtain the translation in the body of the NLQ window but  in the   
> option
> >> selection text  area the English text still remains.
> >> Obviously I updated also the nlqnlqueries_rdf.properties.
> >> What is missing/wrong in my translation process?
> >>
> >> Thank you,
> >> Giuseppe
> >>
> >>
> >> # -- template definition (0) ------
> >> nlq_template.0.example_template=Mostra tutte le pubblicazioni   
> registrate
> >> in libreria.
> >> nlq_template.0.explain         =Mostra tutte le pubblicazioni/  
> risorse
> >> registrate in questa libreria digitale.
> >> nlq_template.0.regexp.0        =Mostra\\s+(?:mi)?\\s*(?:tutte\\s+|
> >> ogni\\s+|qualsiasi)?\\s*(?:risorsa[e]?\\s+|pubblicazione[i]?\\s+|
> >> articolo[i]?\\s+|(?:qualsiasi)?oggetto)?\\s*in\\s+(?:nella\\s+|
> >> questa)?\\s*(digital)?\\s*library[\\s.?!]*$
> >> # nlq_template.0.regexp.0        =Show\\s+(?:me)?\\s*(?:all\\s+| 
> each\
> >> \s+|every)?\\s*(?:resource[s]?\\s+|publication[s]?\\s+|article[s]? 
> \\s
> >> +|(?:every)?thing)?\\s*in\\s+(?:the\\s+|this)?\\s*(digital)?\
> >> \s*library[\\s.?!]*$
> >> nlq_template.0.regexp.count    =1
> >>
> >>
> >>  
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Re: [S3b-users] [JeromeDL-users] R: nlqueries_it properties

[Sebastian K. <seb...@gm...>]

Giuseppe,

can you send the full stack, or better - complete content of the  
page500 ? The information that might hint us on the problem is  
probably somewhere below the screenshot you have provided.

Wrt problems in other languages - you are right - I did not updated  
them - I will do it today.

Cheers,

S.

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On 22 May 2008, at 09:25, Giuseppe Bux wrote:

> Hi Sebastian,
> After my last rebuilding, this morning,  both of the jarNlq and the  
> of the jeromedl I have an error 500 report generated at the enaction  
> of the semantic search feature: Please find here the attached  error  
> report.
> Really at a first rebuilding, yesterday, the enaction of the  
> semantic search feature was successful  as well the execution of the  
> first option (publish all publication…..), although this  successful  
> behavior was occurring only in the case of  the english version (i.e  
> nlqueries_en. properties), while in the case of the other locale  
> versions the JWA-533 was still persistent.
>
> I do not find a plausible explanation of the different system  
> behavior after the rebuilding  of nlq and jeromedl projects: I hope  
> you could suggest me a possible cause.
>
> As to the below open questions:
> 1)      Yes, I updated the nlq_locale.count value;
> 2)      I think the http://wiki.s3b.corrib.org/NLQ requires  
> expansion about the grammar used in regexp specification; I consider  
> important that to support customization of the nlqueries templates.
> 3)      As to my introduction to this email, the error seems as  
> fixed for the nlqueries_en  template but it still occurs for the  
> other nlqueries.xx template;
> 4)      Yes, I am sending a ticket to Jira.
>
> Semantic query customization is a very necessary task in my   
> dContentWare project, not only in terms of language translation, but  
> more in terms of alternative rdf queries and related templates to  
> implement. Obviously, the pure _it translation of the current _en  
> template is a first important step. I hope to realize that with your  
> help.
>
> Cheers,
> Giuseppe
>
> Da: Sebastian Kruk [mailto:seb...@gm...]
> Inviato: mercoledì 21 maggio 2008 15.34
> A: Giuseppe Bux
> Cc: S3b-users; JeromeDL Users; Antonio Chieti; Maria Cammarrota
> Oggetto: Re: [JeromeDL-users] nlqueries_it properties
>
> Dear Giuseppe,
>
> I am sorry for getting back to you that late - but we are all still  
> recovering from the DERI Review madness last week :)
>
> To answer your questions:
> 1) did you change nlq_locale.count value?
>
> 2) take a look at http://wiki.s3b.corrib.org/NLQ and let me know if  
> it requires any further explanation
>
> 3) fixed - there were two issues there: a) a group capture  
> definition in regexp b) missing USING NAMESPACE in SeRQL query
>
> 4) At the moment NLQ only allows to define SELECT queries which  
> return a vector of results (not a table). Further more, JeromeDL  
> cannot render (currently) other objects than library resources. An  
> option would be to use MBB to render results. However, at this stage  
> I do not plan (in the near future) to extend NLQ since I do not have  
> time / people / resources to do it. But I do get your point, and I  
> think it is valid. Can you please send a ticket to JIRA with it?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Sebastian
>
>
> -- seb...@gm...
> -- GG: 335067, 
> -- Jabber: seb...@gm...
> -- Skype: sebastiankruk
> -- WWW: http://www.sebastiankruk.com/ 
>
>
>
>
> On 12 May 2008, at 09:36, Giuseppe Bux wrote:
>
>
> Hi Sebastian,
> please takes into account some additional feedback from my current  
> work on nlqueries_it translation and, in general, on nlqueries  
> customization:
>
> 1) nlq_locale.x=yy:
> I enabled  the nlq_locale.x=yy  for all the available nlqueries_yy  
> templates (that is: en, it, pl, de, pt_BR, uk), however only the  
> nlqueries_pt_BR template, when invoked, is able to show, in its own  
> language, both the NL query options, in the selectabe text area,  
> and  the selected one, in the body of the query window (really, the  
> last available options, about finding of articles in a given domain,  
> is still shown in English). This behavior occurs also on http://bleedingedge.jeromedl.org./ 
> .
>
> 2) nlq_template.x.regexp.x expressions:
> an explanation grammar could be useful to easily allow users to  
> customize the expressions;
>
> 3) Show me all publications in the library:
> this option still fails, as from my  report JWA-533; I tried to  
> replace the  current "Select" query with the old "Construct" one,  
> but the failure remains: it is not a problem of query but of its  
> invoking code.
>
> 4) More general  RDF queries:  it could be useful to allow users to  
> set more general rdf queries. I tried the following query about  
> authors of the published books:
>
> Select DISTINCT *
> FROM {r} marcont:hasCreator {} foaf:name {t}; foaf:mbox {m}
> USING NAMESPACE  marcont = <http://www.marcont.org/ontology#>, foaf  
> = <http://xmlns.com/foaf/0.1/>
> As from the above query, it could be useful to extract some  
> information about authors  of publications (ex. the email address,  
> or the biography), but the JDL result concerns only the list of  
> publications, without the required additional information about the  
> related authors.
>
>
> Not more to add: I hope the above feedback could soon have suitable  
> solutions.
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> Giuseppe
>
>
>  ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Giuseppe Bux" <giu...@al...>
> To: "Sebastian Kruk" <seb...@gm...>
> Cc: "Sebastian Kruk" <seb...@de...>; "Maria Cammarrota" <cam...@or... 
> >; "Antonio Chieti" <in...@or...>; "JeromeDL Users" <jer...@li... 
> >
> Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2008 6:26 PM
> Subject: Re: [JeromeDL-users] nlqueries_it properties
>
> > Hi Sebastian,
> >
> > see below inline my answers.
> > Moreover: where can I read about the grammar of
> > nlq_template.0.regexp.0 ?
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Giuseppe
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Sebastian Kruk" <seb...@gm...>
> > To: "Giuseppe Bux" <giu...@al...>
> > Cc: "Sebastian Kruk" <seb...@de...>; "Maria Cammarrota"
> > <cam...@or...>; "Antonio Chieti"  
> <in...@or...>;
> > "JeromeDL Users" <jer...@li...>
> > Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2008 4:40 PM
> > Subject: Re: [JeromeDL-users] nlqueries_it properties
> >
> >
> > Hi Giuseppe,
> >
> > just from the top of my head:
> >
> > 1) Did you update nlqueries_rdf.properties
> >
> > e.g.:
> >
> > nlq_locale.0=en
> > nlq_locale.1=pt_BR
> > nlq_locale.2=it
> > nlq_locale.count=3
> >
> > ?
> > yes, I  did.
> >
> > 2) looking at your screenshot - I have noticed that you have  
> language
> > "en " selected and the rest of the page is in Italian - how that
> > happened? Maybe this is the cause?
> >
> > The same is with "it" label selected.
> >
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > S.
> >
> > -- seb...@gm...
> > -- GG: 335067,
> > -- Jabber: seb...@gm...
> > -- Skype: sebastiankruk
> > -- WWW: http://www.sebastiankruk.com/
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 8 May 2008, at 15:17, Giuseppe Bux wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Sebastian,
> >> I’m working to the Italian translation of the   
> nlqueries_en.properties.
> >> Please read, in the following, the  translation example on the
> >> nlq.template.0. After the translation I  rebuilt the s3b_nlq.jar  
> and
> >> copied it both in the jeromedl/lib and  in the tomcat/lib folders.
> >> The result is as in http://screencast.com/t/SY7dY7xLH3 : that is, I
> >> obtain the translation in the body of the NLQ window but  in the   
> option
> >> selection text  area the English text still remains.
> >> Obviously I updated also the nlqnlqueries_rdf.properties.
> >> What is missing/wrong in my translation process?
> >>
> >> Thank you,
> >> Giuseppe
> >>
> >>
> >> # -- template definition (0) ------
> >> nlq_template.0.example_template=Mostra tutte le pubblicazioni   
> registrate
> >> in libreria.
> >> nlq_template.0.explain         =Mostra tutte le pubblicazioni/  
> risorse
> >> registrate in questa libreria digitale.
> >> nlq_template.0.regexp.0        =Mostra\\s+(?:mi)?\\s*(?:tutte\\s+|
> >> ogni\\s+|qualsiasi)?\\s*(?:risorsa[e]?\\s+|pubblicazione[i]?\\s+|
> >> articolo[i]?\\s+|(?:qualsiasi)?oggetto)?\\s*in\\s+(?:nella\\s+|
> >> questa)?\\s*(digital)?\\s*library[\\s.?!]*$
> >> # nlq_template.0.regexp.0        =Show\\s+(?:me)?\\s*(?:all\\s+| 
> each\
> >> \s+|every)?\\s*(?:resource[s]?\\s+|publication[s]?\\s+|article[s]? 
> \\s
> >> +|(?:every)?thing)?\\s*in\\s+(?:the\\s+|this)?\\s*(digital)?\
> >> \s*library[\\s.?!]*$
> >> nlq_template.0.regexp.count    =1
> >>
> >>
> >>  
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[S3b-users] R: [JeromeDL-users] R: nlqueries_it properties

[Giuseppe B. <giu...@al...>]

Full stack in attachement.

G.

-----Messaggio originale-----
Da: Sebastian Kruk [mailto:seb...@gm...] 
Inviato: giovedì 22 maggio 2008 10.36
A: Giuseppe Bux
Cc: 'Maria Cammarrota'; 'Antonio Chieti'; 'JeromeDL Users'; 'S3b-users'
Oggetto: Re: [JeromeDL-users] R: nlqueries_it properties

Giuseppe,

can you send the full stack, or better - complete content of the  
page500 ? The information that might hint us on the problem is  
probably somewhere below the screenshot you have provided.

Wrt problems in other languages - you are right - I did not updated  
them - I will do it today.

Cheers,

S.

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On 22 May 2008, at 09:25, Giuseppe Bux wrote:

> Hi Sebastian,
> After my last rebuilding, this morning,  both of the jarNlq and the  
> of the jeromedl I have an error 500 report generated at the enaction  
> of the semantic search feature: Please find here the attached  error  
> report.
> Really at a first rebuilding, yesterday, the enaction of the  
> semantic search feature was successful  as well the execution of the  
> first option (publish all publication…..), although this  successful  
> behavior was occurring only in the case of  the english version (i.e  
> nlqueries_en. properties), while in the case of the other locale  
> versions the JWA-533 was still persistent.
>
> I do not find a plausible explanation of the different system  
> behavior after the rebuilding  of nlq and jeromedl projects: I hope  
> you could suggest me a possible cause.
>
> As to the below open questions:
> 1)      Yes, I updated the nlq_locale.count value;
> 2)      I think the http://wiki.s3b.corrib.org/NLQ requires  
> expansion about the grammar used in regexp specification; I consider  
> important that to support customization of the nlqueries templates.
> 3)      As to my introduction to this email, the error seems as  
> fixed for the nlqueries_en  template but it still occurs for the  
> other nlqueries.xx template;
> 4)      Yes, I am sending a ticket to Jira.
>
> Semantic query customization is a very necessary task in my   
> dContentWare project, not only in terms of language translation, but  
> more in terms of alternative rdf queries and related templates to  
> implement. Obviously, the pure _it translation of the current _en  
> template is a first important step. I hope to realize that with your  
> help.
>
> Cheers,
> Giuseppe
>
> Da: Sebastian Kruk [mailto:seb...@gm...]
> Inviato: mercoledì 21 maggio 2008 15.34
> A: Giuseppe Bux
> Cc: S3b-users; JeromeDL Users; Antonio Chieti; Maria Cammarrota
> Oggetto: Re: [JeromeDL-users] nlqueries_it properties
>
> Dear Giuseppe,
>
> I am sorry for getting back to you that late - but we are all still  
> recovering from the DERI Review madness last week :)
>
> To answer your questions:
> 1) did you change nlq_locale.count value?
>
> 2) take a look at http://wiki.s3b.corrib.org/NLQ and let me know if  
> it requires any further explanation
>
> 3) fixed - there were two issues there: a) a group capture  
> definition in regexp b) missing USING NAMESPACE in SeRQL query
>
> 4) At the moment NLQ only allows to define SELECT queries which  
> return a vector of results (not a table). Further more, JeromeDL  
> cannot render (currently) other objects than library resources. An  
> option would be to use MBB to render results. However, at this stage  
> I do not plan (in the near future) to extend NLQ since I do not have  
> time / people / resources to do it. But I do get your point, and I  
> think it is valid. Can you please send a ticket to JIRA with it?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Sebastian
>
>
> -- seb...@gm...
> -- GG: 335067, 
> -- Jabber: seb...@gm...
> -- Skype: sebastiankruk
> -- WWW: http://www.sebastiankruk.com/ 
>
>
>
>
> On 12 May 2008, at 09:36, Giuseppe Bux wrote:
>
>
> Hi Sebastian,
> please takes into account some additional feedback from my current  
> work on nlqueries_it translation and, in general, on nlqueries  
> customization:
>
> 1) nlq_locale.x=yy:
> I enabled  the nlq_locale.x=yy  for all the available nlqueries_yy  
> templates (that is: en, it, pl, de, pt_BR, uk), however only the  
> nlqueries_pt_BR template, when invoked, is able to show, in its own  
> language, both the NL query options, in the selectabe text area,  
> and  the selected one, in the body of the query window (really, the  
> last available options, about finding of articles in a given domain,  
> is still shown in English). This behavior occurs also on
http://bleedingedge.jeromedl.org./ 
> .
>
> 2) nlq_template.x.regexp.x expressions:
> an explanation grammar could be useful to easily allow users to  
> customize the expressions;
>
> 3) Show me all publications in the library:
> this option still fails, as from my  report JWA-533; I tried to  
> replace the  current "Select" query with the old "Construct" one,  
> but the failure remains: it is not a problem of query but of its  
> invoking code.
>
> 4) More general  RDF queries:  it could be useful to allow users to  
> set more general rdf queries. I tried the following query about  
> authors of the published books:
>
> Select DISTINCT *
> FROM {r} marcont:hasCreator {} foaf:name {t}; foaf:mbox {m}
> USING NAMESPACE  marcont = <http://www.marcont.org/ontology#>, foaf  
> = <http://xmlns.com/foaf/0.1/>
> As from the above query, it could be useful to extract some  
> information about authors  of publications (ex. the email address,  
> or the biography), but the JDL result concerns only the list of  
> publications, without the required additional information about the  
> related authors.
>
>
> Not more to add: I hope the above feedback could soon have suitable  
> solutions.
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> Giuseppe
>
>
>  ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Giuseppe Bux" <giu...@al...>
> To: "Sebastian Kruk" <seb...@gm...>
> Cc: "Sebastian Kruk" <seb...@de...>; "Maria Cammarrota"
<cam...@or... 
> >; "Antonio Chieti" <in...@or...>; "JeromeDL Users"
<jer...@li... 
> >
> Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2008 6:26 PM
> Subject: Re: [JeromeDL-users] nlqueries_it properties
>
> > Hi Sebastian,
> >
> > see below inline my answers.
> > Moreover: where can I read about the grammar of
> > nlq_template.0.regexp.0 ?
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Giuseppe
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Sebastian Kruk" <seb...@gm...>
> > To: "Giuseppe Bux" <giu...@al...>
> > Cc: "Sebastian Kruk" <seb...@de...>; "Maria Cammarrota"
> > <cam...@or...>; "Antonio Chieti"  
> <in...@or...>;
> > "JeromeDL Users" <jer...@li...>
> > Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2008 4:40 PM
> > Subject: Re: [JeromeDL-users] nlqueries_it properties
> >
> >
> > Hi Giuseppe,
> >
> > just from the top of my head:
> >
> > 1) Did you update nlqueries_rdf.properties
> >
> > e.g.:
> >
> > nlq_locale.0=en
> > nlq_locale.1=pt_BR
> > nlq_locale.2=it
> > nlq_locale.count=3
> >
> > ?
> > yes, I  did.
> >
> > 2) looking at your screenshot - I have noticed that you have  
> language
> > "en " selected and the rest of the page is in Italian - how that
> > happened? Maybe this is the cause?
> >
> > The same is with "it" label selected.
> >
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > S.
> >
> > -- seb...@gm...
> > -- GG: 335067,
> > -- Jabber: seb...@gm...
> > -- Skype: sebastiankruk
> > -- WWW: http://www.sebastiankruk.com/
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 8 May 2008, at 15:17, Giuseppe Bux wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Sebastian,
> >> I’m working to the Italian translation of the   
> nlqueries_en.properties.
> >> Please read, in the following, the  translation example on the
> >> nlq.template.0. After the translation I  rebuilt the s3b_nlq.jar  
> and
> >> copied it both in the jeromedl/lib and  in the tomcat/lib folders.
> >> The result is as in http://screencast.com/t/SY7dY7xLH3 : that is, I
> >> obtain the translation in the body of the NLQ window but  in the   
> option
> >> selection text  area the English text still remains.
> >> Obviously I updated also the nlqnlqueries_rdf.properties.
> >> What is missing/wrong in my translation process?
> >>
> >> Thank you,
> >> Giuseppe
> >>
> >>
> >> # -- template definition (0) ------
> >> nlq_template.0.example_template=Mostra tutte le pubblicazioni   
> registrate
> >> in libreria.
> >> nlq_template.0.explain         =Mostra tutte le pubblicazioni/  
> risorse
> >> registrate in questa libreria digitale.
> >> nlq_template.0.regexp.0        =Mostra\\s+(?:mi)?\\s*(?:tutte\\s+|
> >> ogni\\s+|qualsiasi)?\\s*(?:risorsa[e]?\\s+|pubblicazione[i]?\\s+|
> >> articolo[i]?\\s+|(?:qualsiasi)?oggetto)?\\s*in\\s+(?:nella\\s+|
> >> questa)?\\s*(digital)?\\s*library[\\s.?!]*$
> >> # nlq_template.0.regexp.0        =Show\\s+(?:me)?\\s*(?:all\\s+| 
> each\
> >> \s+|every)?\\s*(?:resource[s]?\\s+|publication[s]?\\s+|article[s]? 
> \\s
> >> +|(?:every)?thing)?\\s*in\\s+(?:the\\s+|this)?\\s*(digital)?\
> >> \s*library[\\s.?!]*$
> >> nlq_template.0.regexp.count    =1
> >>
> >>
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Re: [S3b-users] [JeromeDL-users] R: nlqueries_it properties

[Sebastian K. <seb...@gm...>]

Giuseppe,

I think I know what is the problem with your NLQ translations.

1) First of all, the last line in nlqueries_it.properties was  
commented and the engine was missing nlq_template.explain entry

2) I do not know Italian but I think the regular expressions that you  
provided are not correct. E.g., an example template for the second  
query is

Mostra tutte le pubblicazioni scritte da ...

when you put Kruk instead of ... it will not find anything. I have  
analyzed your regexp and rewrote the query to

Mostra tutte pubblicazione scritta da Kruk.

And got the results. You can test it at esa.jeromedl.org (I will send  
you credentials in a separate email).


Btw. I have also found a small bug in

src/org/jeromedl/sjsp/QueryProcessService.java

in method

processNLQ(HttpServletRequest request, ServletStateBundle bundle)   
(around line 187)

where it was
  if(rdfq.get() != null) //CHECK
and should be
  if(rdfq.get() != null && !"".equals(rdfq)) //CHECK

Since we have rebuild JeromeDL heavily recently I cannot submit it  
directly to SVN. But you can update your own source code.

(@Mariusz can you correct this in the recent version of JeromeDL  
source?)

I hope this was helpful.

Cheers,

Sebastian


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On 23 May 2008, at 15:05, Giuseppe Bux wrote:

> Hi Sebastian,
> please find here attached the complete nlqueries_it.properties   
> file, obtained by strict translation of the nlqueries_en.properties  
> file.  I tried to rebuild the s3b_nlq.jar, then to insert it in the  
> JeromeDL  ../lib, and to rebuild the jeromedl itself, but I have an  
> error 500,  as in the full stack trace here attached, which is  
> different from the error 500 I had yesterday. I attach also the  
> nlqueries_rdf.properties  file updated in the nlq_locale   
> instructions. Please try, either yourself or Mariusz,  to make the  
> nlqueries_it running on the http://bleedingedge.jeromedl.org/  from  
> the “it” user interface. As soon the whole  it translation will be  
> running I will produce proper translation adjustments .
>
> Cheers,
> Giuseppe
>
>
>
> Da: Giuseppe Bux [mailto:giu...@al...]
> Inviato: giovedì 22 maggio 2008 10.26
> A: 'Sebastian Kruk'
> Cc: 'S3b-users'; 'JeromeDL Users'; 'Antonio Chieti'; 'Maria  
> Cammarrota'
> Oggetto: R: [JeromeDL-users] nlqueries_it properties
>
> Hi Sebastian,
> After my last rebuilding, this morning,  both of the jarNlq and the  
> of the jeromedl I have an error 500 report generated at the enaction  
> of the semantic search feature: Please find here the attached  error  
> report.
> Really at a first rebuilding, yesterday, the enaction of the  
> semantic search feature was successful  as well the execution of the  
> first option (publish all publication…..), although this  successful  
> behavior was occurring only in the case of  the english version (i.e  
> nlqueries_en. properties), while in the case of the other locale  
> versions the JWA-533 was still persistent.
>
> I do not find a plausible explanation of the different system  
> behavior after the rebuilding  of nlq and jeromedl projects: I hope  
> you could suggest me a possible cause.
>
> As to the below open questions:
> 1)      Yes, I updated the nlq_locale.count value;
> 2)      I think the http://wiki.s3b.corrib.org/NLQ requires  
> expansion about the grammar used in regexp specification; I consider  
> important that to support customization of the nlqueries templates.
> 3)      As to my introduction to this email, the error seems as  
> fixed for the nlqueries_en  template but it still occurs for the  
> other nlqueries.xx template;
> 4)      Yes, I am sending a ticket to Jira.
>
> Semantic query customization is a very necessary task in my   
> dContentWare project, not only in terms of language translation, but  
> more in terms of alternative rdf queries and related templates to  
> implement. Obviously, the pure _it translation of the current _en  
> template is a first important step. I hope to realize that with your  
> help.
>
> Cheers,
> Giuseppe
>
> Da: Sebastian Kruk [mailto:seb...@gm...]
> Inviato: mercoledì 21 maggio 2008 15.34
> A: Giuseppe Bux
> Cc: S3b-users; JeromeDL Users; Antonio Chieti; Maria Cammarrota
> Oggetto: Re: [JeromeDL-users] nlqueries_it properties
>
> Dear Giuseppe,
>
> I am sorry for getting back to you that late - but we are all still  
> recovering from the DERI Review madness last week :)
>
> To answer your questions:
> 1) did you change nlq_locale.count value?
>
> 2) take a look at http://wiki.s3b.corrib.org/NLQ and let me know if  
> it requires any further explanation
>
> 3) fixed - there were two issues there: a) a group capture  
> definition in regexp b) missing USING NAMESPACE in SeRQL query
>
> 4) At the moment NLQ only allows to define SELECT queries which  
> return a vector of results (not a table). Further more, JeromeDL  
> cannot render (currently) other objects than library resources. An  
> option would be to use MBB to render results. However, at this stage  
> I do not plan (in the near future) to extend NLQ since I do not have  
> time / people / resources to do it. But I do get your point, and I  
> think it is valid. Can you please send a ticket to JIRA with it?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Sebastian
>
>
> -- seb...@gm...
> -- GG: 335067, 
> -- Jabber: seb...@gm...
> -- Skype: sebastiankruk
> -- WWW: http://www.sebastiankruk.com/ 
>
>
>
>
> On 12 May 2008, at 09:36, Giuseppe Bux wrote:
>
> Hi Sebastian,
> please takes into account some additional feedback from my current  
> work on nlqueries_it translation and, in general, on nlqueries  
> customization:
>
> 1) nlq_locale.x=yy:
> I enabled  the nlq_locale.x=yy  for all the available nlqueries_yy  
> templates (that is: en, it, pl, de, pt_BR, uk), however only the  
> nlqueries_pt_BR template, when invoked, is able to show, in its own  
> language, both the NL query options, in the selectabe text area,  
> and  the selected one, in the body of the query window (really, the  
> last available options, about finding of articles in a given domain,  
> is still shown in English). This behavior occurs also on http://bleedingedge.jeromedl.org./ 
> .
>
> 2) nlq_template.x.regexp.x expressions:
> an explanation grammar could be useful to easily allow users to  
> customize the expressions;
>
> 3) Show me all publications in the library:
> this option still fails, as from my  report JWA-533; I tried to  
> replace the  current "Select" query with the old "Construct" one,  
> but the failure remains: it is not a problem of query but of its  
> invoking code.
>
> 4) More general  RDF queries:  it could be useful to allow users to  
> set more general rdf queries. I tried the following query about  
> authors of the published books:
>
> Select DISTINCT *
> FROM {r} marcont:hasCreator {} foaf:name {t}; foaf:mbox {m}
> USING NAMESPACE  marcont = <http://www.marcont.org/ontology#>, foaf  
> = <http://xmlns.com/foaf/0.1/>
> As from the above query, it could be useful to extract some  
> information about authors  of publications (ex. the email address,  
> or the biography), but the JDL result concerns only the list of  
> publications, without the required additional information about the  
> related authors.
>
>
> Not more to add: I hope the above feedback could soon have suitable  
> solutions.
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> Giuseppe
>
>
>  ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Giuseppe Bux" <giu...@al...>
> To: "Sebastian Kruk" <seb...@gm...>
> Cc: "Sebastian Kruk" <seb...@de...>; "Maria Cammarrota" <cam...@or... 
> >; "Antonio Chieti" <in...@or...>; "JeromeDL Users" <jer...@li... 
> >
> Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2008 6:26 PM
> Subject: Re: [JeromeDL-users] nlqueries_it properties
>
> > Hi Sebastian,
> >
> > see below inline my answers.
> > Moreover: where can I read about the grammar of
> > nlq_template.0.regexp.0 ?
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Giuseppe
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Sebastian Kruk" <seb...@gm...>
> > To: "Giuseppe Bux" <giu...@al...>
> > Cc: "Sebastian Kruk" <seb...@de...>; "Maria Cammarrota"
> > <cam...@or...>; "Antonio Chieti"  
> <in...@or...>;
> > "JeromeDL Users" <jer...@li...>
> > Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2008 4:40 PM
> > Subject: Re: [JeromeDL-users] nlqueries_it properties
> >
> >
> > Hi Giuseppe,
> >
> > just from the top of my head:
> >
> > 1) Did you update nlqueries_rdf.properties
> >
> > e.g.:
> >
> > nlq_locale.0=en
> > nlq_locale.1=pt_BR
> > nlq_locale.2=it
> > nlq_locale.count=3
> >
> > ?
> > yes, I  did.
> >
> > 2) looking at your screenshot - I have noticed that you have  
> language
> > "en " selected and the rest of the page is in Italian - how that
> > happened? Maybe this is the cause?
> >
> > The same is with "it" label selected.
> >
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > S.
> >
> > -- seb...@gm...
> > -- GG: 335067,
> > -- Jabber: seb...@gm...
> > -- Skype: sebastiankruk
> > -- WWW: http://www.sebastiankruk.com/
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 8 May 2008, at 15:17, Giuseppe Bux wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Sebastian,
> >> I’m working to the Italian translation of the   
> nlqueries_en.properties.
> >> Please read, in the following, the  translation example on the
> >> nlq.template.0. After the translation I  rebuilt the s3b_nlq.jar  
> and
> >> copied it both in the jeromedl/lib and  in the tomcat/lib folders.
> >> The result is as in http://screencast.com/t/SY7dY7xLH3 : that is, I
> >> obtain the translation in the body of the NLQ window but  in the   
> option
> >> selection text  area the English text still remains.
> >> Obviously I updated also the nlqnlqueries_rdf.properties.
> >> What is missing/wrong in my translation process?
> >>
> >> Thank you,
> >> Giuseppe
> >>
> >>
> >> # -- template definition (0) ------
> >> nlq_template.0.example_template=Mostra tutte le pubblicazioni   
> registrate
> >> in libreria.
> >> nlq_template.0.explain         =Mostra tutte le pubblicazioni/  
> risorse
> >> registrate in questa libreria digitale.
> >> nlq_template.0.regexp.0        =Mostra\\s+(?:mi)?\\s*(?:tutte\\s+|
> >> ogni\\s+|qualsiasi)?\\s*(?:risorsa[e]?\\s+|pubblicazione[i]?\\s+|
> >> articolo[i]?\\s+|(?:qualsiasi)?oggetto)?\\s*in\\s+(?:nella\\s+|
> >> questa)?\\s*(digital)?\\s*library[\\s.?!]*$
> >> # nlq_template.0.regexp.0        =Show\\s+(?:me)?\\s*(?:all\\s+| 
> each\
> >> \s+|every)?\\s*(?:resource[s]?\\s+|publication[s]?\\s+|article[s]? 
> \\s
> >> +|(?:every)?thing)?\\s*in\\s+(?:the\\s+|this)?\\s*(digital)?\
> >> \s*library[\\s.?!]*$
> >> nlq_template.0.regexp.count    =1
> >>
> >>
> >>  
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[S3b-users] R: [JeromeDL-users] R: nlqueries_it properties

[Giuseppe B. <giu...@al...>]

Sebastian,

Now I'm able to view the Italian translations in the NLQ query form, however
they still don't work. I tried also in esa.jeromedl.org, but also there, the
queries produce error 500 or any result.
As to the Italian word like "scritta" or "scritte" they show respectively
the singular and the plural form (ex. singular form :pubblicazione scritta;
plural form: pubblicazioni scritte)

Because in the NLQ templates we talk of publications (i.e. the plural form),
all related verbs should be in  plural form too.

Please find in attachment a revision of the nlqueries_it.properties file. I
updated the verbal forms, related to publications/resources, from the
singular to the plural expression.

Moreover I updated also the src/org/jeromedl/sjsp/QueryProcessService.java
module.

In general I think that should be more understandable, and so more
customizable, the relationships between nlq_templates specified in
nlq_xx.properties and in nlq_rdf.properties. This is an aspect very
important for our dContentWare customization purpose, because we would
introduce new rdf query templates. Your updatings in
://wiki.corrib.org/index.php/S3B/NLQ#Remarks are a good help, however the
grammar of regexp expressions remains not well understandable and manageable
in customization processes.

Please try, in esa.jeromedl.org, my revised nlqueries_it: I hope the
updating of singular to plural forms of verbs, done both in the
nlq_template.x.explain and in nlq_template.x.regexp, could be sufficient to
allow the calling and execution of related nlq_template.x.query.

I apologize, if my customization process is involving your heavy
contribution but I hope it will be fruitful for other similar jeromedl user
initiatives. As to my own contribution, I will make available to the
jeromedl project all our customization results that could be useful to the
Jeromedl user community. 

Cheers,
Giuseppe  

 
-----Messaggio originale-----
Da: Sebastian Kruk [mailto:seb...@gm...] 
Inviato: giovedì 29 maggio 2008 13.52
A: Giuseppe Bux
Cc: 'Maria Cammarrota'; 'Antonio Chieti'; 'JeromeDL Users'; 'S3b-users'
Oggetto: Re: [JeromeDL-users] R: nlqueries_it properties

Giuseppe,

I think I know what is the problem with your NLQ translations.

1) First of all, the last line in nlqueries_it.properties was  
commented and the engine was missing nlq_template.explain entry

2) I do not know Italian but I think the regular expressions that you  
provided are not correct. E.g., an example template for the second  
query is

Mostra tutte le pubblicazioni scritte da ...

when you put Kruk instead of ... it will not find anything. I have  
analyzed your regexp and rewrote the query to

Mostra tutte pubblicazione scritta da Kruk.

And got the results. You can test it at esa.jeromedl.org (I will send  
you credentials in a separate email).


Btw. I have also found a small bug in

src/org/jeromedl/sjsp/QueryProcessService.java

in method

processNLQ(HttpServletRequest request, ServletStateBundle bundle)   
(around line 187)

where it was
  if(rdfq.get() != null) //CHECK
and should be
  if(rdfq.get() != null && !"".equals(rdfq)) //CHECK

Since we have rebuild JeromeDL heavily recently I cannot submit it  
directly to SVN. But you can update your own source code.

(@Mariusz can you correct this in the recent version of JeromeDL  
source?)

I hope this was helpful.

Cheers,

Sebastian


-- seb...@gm...
-- GG: 335067, 
-- Jabber: seb...@gm...
-- Skype: sebastiankruk
-- WWW: http://www.sebastiankruk.com/ 




On 23 May 2008, at 15:05, Giuseppe Bux wrote:

> Hi Sebastian,
> please find here attached the complete nlqueries_it.properties   
> file, obtained by strict translation of the nlqueries_en.properties  
> file.  I tried to rebuild the s3b_nlq.jar, then to insert it in the  
> JeromeDL  ../lib, and to rebuild the jeromedl itself, but I have an  
> error 500,  as in the full stack trace here attached, which is  
> different from the error 500 I had yesterday. I attach also the  
> nlqueries_rdf.properties  file updated in the nlq_locale   
> instructions. Please try, either yourself or Mariusz,  to make the  
> nlqueries_it running on the http://bleedingedge.jeromedl.org/  from  
> the “it” user interface. As soon the whole  it translation will be  
> running I will produce proper translation adjustments .
>
> Cheers,
> Giuseppe
>
>
>
> Da: Giuseppe Bux [mailto:giu...@al...]
> Inviato: giovedì 22 maggio 2008 10.26
> A: 'Sebastian Kruk'
> Cc: 'S3b-users'; 'JeromeDL Users'; 'Antonio Chieti'; 'Maria  
> Cammarrota'
> Oggetto: R: [JeromeDL-users] nlqueries_it properties
>
> Hi Sebastian,
> After my last rebuilding, this morning,  both of the jarNlq and the  
> of the jeromedl I have an error 500 report generated at the enaction  
> of the semantic search feature: Please find here the attached  error  
> report.
> Really at a first rebuilding, yesterday, the enaction of the  
> semantic search feature was successful  as well the execution of the  
> first option (publish all publication…..), although this  successful  
> behavior was occurring only in the case of  the english version (i.e  
> nlqueries_en. properties), while in the case of the other locale  
> versions the JWA-533 was still persistent.
>
> I do not find a plausible explanation of the different system  
> behavior after the rebuilding  of nlq and jeromedl projects: I hope  
> you could suggest me a possible cause.
>
> As to the below open questions:
> 1)      Yes, I updated the nlq_locale.count value;
> 2)      I think the http://wiki.s3b.corrib.org/NLQ requires  
> expansion about the grammar used in regexp specification; I consider  
> important that to support customization of the nlqueries templates.
> 3)      As to my introduction to this email, the error seems as  
> fixed for the nlqueries_en  template but it still occurs for the  
> other nlqueries.xx template;
> 4)      Yes, I am sending a ticket to Jira.
>
> Semantic query customization is a very necessary task in my   
> dContentWare project, not only in terms of language translation, but  
> more in terms of alternative rdf queries and related templates to  
> implement. Obviously, the pure _it translation of the current _en  
> template is a first important step. I hope to realize that with your  
> help.
>
> Cheers,
> Giuseppe
>
> Da: Sebastian Kruk [mailto:seb...@gm...]
> Inviato: mercoledì 21 maggio 2008 15.34
> A: Giuseppe Bux
> Cc: S3b-users; JeromeDL Users; Antonio Chieti; Maria Cammarrota
> Oggetto: Re: [JeromeDL-users] nlqueries_it properties
>
> Dear Giuseppe,
>
> I am sorry for getting back to you that late - but we are all still  
> recovering from the DERI Review madness last week :)
>
> To answer your questions:
> 1) did you change nlq_locale.count value?
>
> 2) take a look at http://wiki.s3b.corrib.org/NLQ and let me know if  
> it requires any further explanation
>
> 3) fixed - there were two issues there: a) a group capture  
> definition in regexp b) missing USING NAMESPACE in SeRQL query
>
> 4) At the moment NLQ only allows to define SELECT queries which  
> return a vector of results (not a table). Further more, JeromeDL  
> cannot render (currently) other objects than library resources. An  
> option would be to use MBB to render results. However, at this stage  
> I do not plan (in the near future) to extend NLQ since I do not have  
> time / people / resources to do it. But I do get your point, and I  
> think it is valid. Can you please send a ticket to JIRA with it?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Sebastian
>
>
> -- seb...@gm...
> -- GG: 335067, 
> -- Jabber: seb...@gm...
> -- Skype: sebastiankruk
> -- WWW: http://www.sebastiankruk.com/ 
>
>
>
>
> On 12 May 2008, at 09:36, Giuseppe Bux wrote:
>
> Hi Sebastian,
> please takes into account some additional feedback from my current  
> work on nlqueries_it translation and, in general, on nlqueries  
> customization:
>
> 1) nlq_locale.x=yy:
> I enabled  the nlq_locale.x=yy  for all the available nlqueries_yy  
> templates (that is: en, it, pl, de, pt_BR, uk), however only the  
> nlqueries_pt_BR template, when invoked, is able to show, in its own  
> language, both the NL query options, in the selectabe text area,  
> and  the selected one, in the body of the query window (really, the  
> last available options, about finding of articles in a given domain,  
> is still shown in English). This behavior occurs also on
http://bleedingedge.jeromedl.org./ 
> .
>
> 2) nlq_template.x.regexp.x expressions:
> an explanation grammar could be useful to easily allow users to  
> customize the expressions;
>
> 3) Show me all publications in the library:
> this option still fails, as from my  report JWA-533; I tried to  
> replace the  current "Select" query with the old "Construct" one,  
> but the failure remains: it is not a problem of query but of its  
> invoking code.
>
> 4) More general  RDF queries:  it could be useful to allow users to  
> set more general rdf queries. I tried the following query about  
> authors of the published books:
>
> Select DISTINCT *
> FROM {r} marcont:hasCreator {} foaf:name {t}; foaf:mbox {m}
> USING NAMESPACE  marcont = <http://www.marcont.org/ontology#>, foaf  
> = <http://xmlns.com/foaf/0.1/>
> As from the above query, it could be useful to extract some  
> information about authors  of publications (ex. the email address,  
> or the biography), but the JDL result concerns only the list of  
> publications, without the required additional information about the  
> related authors.
>
>
> Not more to add: I hope the above feedback could soon have suitable  
> solutions.
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> Giuseppe
>
>
>  ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Giuseppe Bux" <giu...@al...>
> To: "Sebastian Kruk" <seb...@gm...>
> Cc: "Sebastian Kruk" <seb...@de...>; "Maria Cammarrota"
<cam...@or... 
> >; "Antonio Chieti" <in...@or...>; "JeromeDL Users"
<jer...@li... 
> >
> Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2008 6:26 PM
> Subject: Re: [JeromeDL-users] nlqueries_it properties
>
> > Hi Sebastian,
> >
> > see below inline my answers.
> > Moreover: where can I read about the grammar of
> > nlq_template.0.regexp.0 ?
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Giuseppe
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Sebastian Kruk" <seb...@gm...>
> > To: "Giuseppe Bux" <giu...@al...>
> > Cc: "Sebastian Kruk" <seb...@de...>; "Maria Cammarrota"
> > <cam...@or...>; "Antonio Chieti"  
> <in...@or...>;
> > "JeromeDL Users" <jer...@li...>
> > Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2008 4:40 PM
> > Subject: Re: [JeromeDL-users] nlqueries_it properties
> >
> >
> > Hi Giuseppe,
> >
> > just from the top of my head:
> >
> > 1) Did you update nlqueries_rdf.properties
> >
> > e.g.:
> >
> > nlq_locale.0=en
> > nlq_locale.1=pt_BR
> > nlq_locale.2=it
> > nlq_locale.count=3
> >
> > ?
> > yes, I  did.
> >
> > 2) looking at your screenshot - I have noticed that you have  
> language
> > "en " selected and the rest of the page is in Italian - how that
> > happened? Maybe this is the cause?
> >
> > The same is with "it" label selected.
> >
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > S.
> >
> > -- seb...@gm...
> > -- GG: 335067,
> > -- Jabber: seb...@gm...
> > -- Skype: sebastiankruk
> > -- WWW: http://www.sebastiankruk.com/
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 8 May 2008, at 15:17, Giuseppe Bux wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Sebastian,
> >> I’m working to the Italian translation of the   
> nlqueries_en.properties.
> >> Please read, in the following, the  translation example on the
> >> nlq.template.0. After the translation I  rebuilt the s3b_nlq.jar  
> and
> >> copied it both in the jeromedl/lib and  in the tomcat/lib folders.
> >> The result is as in http://screencast.com/t/SY7dY7xLH3 : that is, I
> >> obtain the translation in the body of the NLQ window but  in the   
> option
> >> selection text  area the English text still remains.
> >> Obviously I updated also the nlqnlqueries_rdf.properties.
> >> What is missing/wrong in my translation process?
> >>
> >> Thank you,
> >> Giuseppe
> >>
> >>
> >> # -- template definition (0) ------
> >> nlq_template.0.example_template=Mostra tutte le pubblicazioni   
> registrate
> >> in libreria.
> >> nlq_template.0.explain         =Mostra tutte le pubblicazioni/  
> risorse
> >> registrate in questa libreria digitale.
> >> nlq_template.0.regexp.0        =Mostra\\s+(?:mi)?\\s*(?:tutte\\s+|
> >> ogni\\s+|qualsiasi)?\\s*(?:risorsa[e]?\\s+|pubblicazione[i]?\\s+|
> >> articolo[i]?\\s+|(?:qualsiasi)?oggetto)?\\s*in\\s+(?:nella\\s+|
> >> questa)?\\s*(digital)?\\s*library[\\s.?!]*$
> >> # nlq_template.0.regexp.0        =Show\\s+(?:me)?\\s*(?:all\\s+| 
> each\
> >> \s+|every)?\\s*(?:resource[s]?\\s+|publication[s]?\\s+|article[s]? 
> \\s
> >> +|(?:every)?thing)?\\s*in\\s+(?:the\\s+|this)?\\s*(digital)?\
> >> \s*library[\\s.?!]*$
> >> nlq_template.0.regexp.count    =1
> >>
> >>
> >>  
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Re: [S3b-users] R: [JeromeDL-users] R: nlqueries_it properties

[Sebastian K. <seb...@gm...>]

Giuseppe,

thanks for the update - I will try to integrate and test it tomorrow.

@Adam - I recall you mentioned something about a graphical UI for  
managing regular expressions. Can you suggest one? I know that KDE has  
one, but I guess we should find something for Windows to support users  
inexperienced with RegExp.

Thanks,

Sebastian

-- seb...@gm...
-- GG: 335067, 
-- Jabber: seb...@gm...
-- Skype: sebastiankruk
-- WWW: http://www.sebastiankruk.com/ 




On 29 May 2008, at 15:55, Giuseppe Bux wrote:

> Sebastian,
>
> Now I'm able to view the Italian translations in the NLQ query form,  
> however
> they still don't work. I tried also in esa.jeromedl.org, but also  
> there, the
> queries produce error 500 or any result.
> As to the Italian word like "scritta" or "scritte" they show  
> respectively
> the singular and the plural form (ex. singular form :pubblicazione  
> scritta;
> plural form: pubblicazioni scritte)
>
> Because in the NLQ templates we talk of publications (i.e. the  
> plural form),
> all related verbs should be in  plural form too.
>
> Please find in attachment a revision of the nlqueries_it.properties  
> file. I
> updated the verbal forms, related to publications/resources, from the
> singular to the plural expression.
>
> Moreover I updated also the src/org/jeromedl/sjsp/ 
> QueryProcessService.java
> module.
>
> In general I think that should be more understandable, and so more
> customizable, the relationships between nlq_templates specified in
> nlq_xx.properties and in nlq_rdf.properties. This is an aspect very
> important for our dContentWare customization purpose, because we would
> introduce new rdf query templates. Your updatings in
> ://wiki.corrib.org/index.php/S3B/NLQ#Remarks are a good help,  
> however the
> grammar of regexp expressions remains not well understandable and  
> manageable
> in customization processes.
>
> Please try, in esa.jeromedl.org, my revised nlqueries_it: I hope the
> updating of singular to plural forms of verbs, done both in the
> nlq_template.x.explain and in nlq_template.x.regexp, could be  
> sufficient to
> allow the calling and execution of related nlq_template.x.query.
>
> I apologize, if my customization process is involving your heavy
> contribution but I hope it will be fruitful for other similar  
> jeromedl user
> initiatives. As to my own contribution, I will make available to the
> jeromedl project all our customization results that could be useful  
> to the
> Jeromedl user community.
>
> Cheers,
> Giuseppe
>
>
> -----Messaggio originale-----
> Da: Sebastian Kruk [mailto:seb...@gm...]
> Inviato: giovedì 29 maggio 2008 13.52
> A: Giuseppe Bux
> Cc: 'Maria Cammarrota'; 'Antonio Chieti'; 'JeromeDL Users'; 'S3b- 
> users'
> Oggetto: Re: [JeromeDL-users] R: nlqueries_it properties
>
> Giuseppe,
>
> I think I know what is the problem with your NLQ translations.
>
> 1) First of all, the last line in nlqueries_it.properties was
> commented and the engine was missing nlq_template.explain entry
>
> 2) I do not know Italian but I think the regular expressions that you
> provided are not correct. E.g., an example template for the second
> query is
>
> Mostra tutte le pubblicazioni scritte da ...
>
> when you put Kruk instead of ... it will not find anything. I have
> analyzed your regexp and rewrote the query to
>
> Mostra tutte pubblicazione scritta da Kruk.
>
> And got the results. You can test it at esa.jeromedl.org (I will send
> you credentials in a separate email).
>
>
> Btw. I have also found a small bug in
>
> src/org/jeromedl/sjsp/QueryProcessService.java
>
> in method
>
> processNLQ(HttpServletRequest request, ServletStateBundle bundle)
> (around line 187)
>
> where it was
>  if(rdfq.get() != null) //CHECK
> and should be
>  if(rdfq.get() != null && !"".equals(rdfq)) //CHECK
>
> Since we have rebuild JeromeDL heavily recently I cannot submit it
> directly to SVN. But you can update your own source code.
>
> (@Mariusz can you correct this in the recent version of JeromeDL
> source?)
>
> I hope this was helpful.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Sebastian
>
>
> -- seb...@gm...
> -- GG: 335067, 
> -- Jabber: seb...@gm...
> -- Skype: sebastiankruk
> -- WWW: http://www.sebastiankruk.com/ 
>
>
>
>
> On 23 May 2008, at 15:05, Giuseppe Bux wrote:
>
>> Hi Sebastian,
>> please find here attached the complete nlqueries_it.properties
>> file, obtained by strict translation of the nlqueries_en.properties
>> file.  I tried to rebuild the s3b_nlq.jar, then to insert it in the
>> JeromeDL  ../lib, and to rebuild the jeromedl itself, but I have an
>> error 500,  as in the full stack trace here attached, which is
>> different from the error 500 I had yesterday. I attach also the
>> nlqueries_rdf.properties  file updated in the nlq_locale
>> instructions. Please try, either yourself or Mariusz,  to make the
>> nlqueries_it running on the http://bleedingedge.jeromedl.org/  from
>> the “it” user interface. As soon the whole  it translation will be
>> running I will produce proper translation adjustments .
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Giuseppe
>>
>>
>>
>> Da: Giuseppe Bux [mailto:giu...@al...]
>> Inviato: giovedì 22 maggio 2008 10.26
>> A: 'Sebastian Kruk'
>> Cc: 'S3b-users'; 'JeromeDL Users'; 'Antonio Chieti'; 'Maria
>> Cammarrota'
>> Oggetto: R: [JeromeDL-users] nlqueries_it properties
>>
>> Hi Sebastian,
>> After my last rebuilding, this morning,  both of the jarNlq and the
>> of the jeromedl I have an error 500 report generated at the enaction
>> of the semantic search feature: Please find here the attached  error
>> report.
>> Really at a first rebuilding, yesterday, the enaction of the
>> semantic search feature was successful  as well the execution of the
>> first option (publish all publication…..), although this  successful
>> behavior was occurring only in the case of  the english version (i.e
>> nlqueries_en. properties), while in the case of the other locale
>> versions the JWA-533 was still persistent.
>>
>> I do not find a plausible explanation of the different system
>> behavior after the rebuilding  of nlq and jeromedl projects: I hope
>> you could suggest me a possible cause.
>>
>> As to the below open questions:
>> 1)      Yes, I updated the nlq_locale.count value;
>> 2)      I think the http://wiki.s3b.corrib.org/NLQ requires
>> expansion about the grammar used in regexp specification; I consider
>> important that to support customization of the nlqueries templates.
>> 3)      As to my introduction to this email, the error seems as
>> fixed for the nlqueries_en  template but it still occurs for the
>> other nlqueries.xx template;
>> 4)      Yes, I am sending a ticket to Jira.
>>
>> Semantic query customization is a very necessary task in my
>> dContentWare project, not only in terms of language translation, but
>> more in terms of alternative rdf queries and related templates to
>> implement. Obviously, the pure _it translation of the current _en
>> template is a first important step. I hope to realize that with your
>> help.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Giuseppe
>>
>> Da: Sebastian Kruk [mailto:seb...@gm...]
>> Inviato: mercoledì 21 maggio 2008 15.34
>> A: Giuseppe Bux
>> Cc: S3b-users; JeromeDL Users; Antonio Chieti; Maria Cammarrota
>> Oggetto: Re: [JeromeDL-users] nlqueries_it properties
>>
>> Dear Giuseppe,
>>
>> I am sorry for getting back to you that late - but we are all still
>> recovering from the DERI Review madness last week :)
>>
>> To answer your questions:
>> 1) did you change nlq_locale.count value?
>>
>> 2) take a look at http://wiki.s3b.corrib.org/NLQ and let me know if
>> it requires any further explanation
>>
>> 3) fixed - there were two issues there: a) a group capture
>> definition in regexp b) missing USING NAMESPACE in SeRQL query
>>
>> 4) At the moment NLQ only allows to define SELECT queries which
>> return a vector of results (not a table). Further more, JeromeDL
>> cannot render (currently) other objects than library resources. An
>> option would be to use MBB to render results. However, at this stage
>> I do not plan (in the near future) to extend NLQ since I do not have
>> time / people / resources to do it. But I do get your point, and I
>> think it is valid. Can you please send a ticket to JIRA with it?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Sebastian
>>
>>
>> -- seb...@gm...
>> -- GG: 335067, 
>> -- Jabber: seb...@gm...
>> -- Skype: sebastiankruk
>> -- WWW: http://www.sebastiankruk.com/ 
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 12 May 2008, at 09:36, Giuseppe Bux wrote:
>>
>> Hi Sebastian,
>> please takes into account some additional feedback from my current
>> work on nlqueries_it translation and, in general, on nlqueries
>> customization:
>>
>> 1) nlq_locale.x=yy:
>> I enabled  the nlq_locale.x=yy  for all the available nlqueries_yy
>> templates (that is: en, it, pl, de, pt_BR, uk), however only the
>> nlqueries_pt_BR template, when invoked, is able to show, in its own
>> language, both the NL query options, in the selectabe text area,
>> and  the selected one, in the body of the query window (really, the
>> last available options, about finding of articles in a given domain,
>> is still shown in English). This behavior occurs also on
> http://bleedingedge.jeromedl.org./
>> .
>>
>> 2) nlq_template.x.regexp.x expressions:
>> an explanation grammar could be useful to easily allow users to
>> customize the expressions;
>>
>> 3) Show me all publications in the library:
>> this option still fails, as from my  report JWA-533; I tried to
>> replace the  current "Select" query with the old "Construct" one,
>> but the failure remains: it is not a problem of query but of its
>> invoking code.
>>
>> 4) More general  RDF queries:  it could be useful to allow users to
>> set more general rdf queries. I tried the following query about
>> authors of the published books:
>>
>> Select DISTINCT *
>> FROM {r} marcont:hasCreator {} foaf:name {t}; foaf:mbox {m}
>> USING NAMESPACE  marcont = <http://www.marcont.org/ontology#>, foaf
>> = <http://xmlns.com/foaf/0.1/>
>> As from the above query, it could be useful to extract some
>> information about authors  of publications (ex. the email address,
>> or the biography), but the JDL result concerns only the list of
>> publications, without the required additional information about the
>> related authors.
>>
>>
>> Not more to add: I hope the above feedback could soon have suitable
>> solutions.
>>
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Giuseppe
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Giuseppe Bux" <giu...@al...>
>> To: "Sebastian Kruk" <seb...@gm...>
>> Cc: "Sebastian Kruk" <seb...@de...>; "Maria Cammarrota"
> <cam...@or...
>>> ; "Antonio Chieti" <in...@or...>; "JeromeDL Users"
> <jer...@li...
>>>
>> Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2008 6:26 PM
>> Subject: Re: [JeromeDL-users] nlqueries_it properties
>>
>>> Hi Sebastian,
>>>
>>> see below inline my answers.
>>> Moreover: where can I read about the grammar of
>>> nlq_template.0.regexp.0 ?
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Giuseppe
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Sebastian Kruk" <seb...@gm...>
>>> To: "Giuseppe Bux" <giu...@al...>
>>> Cc: "Sebastian Kruk" <seb...@de...>; "Maria Cammarrota"
>>> <cam...@or...>; "Antonio Chieti"
>> <in...@or...>;
>>> "JeromeDL Users" <jer...@li...>
>>> Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2008 4:40 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [JeromeDL-users] nlqueries_it properties
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi Giuseppe,
>>>
>>> just from the top of my head:
>>>
>>> 1) Did you update nlqueries_rdf.properties
>>>
>>> e.g.:
>>>
>>> nlq_locale.0=en
>>> nlq_locale.1=pt_BR
>>> nlq_locale.2=it
>>> nlq_locale.count=3
>>>
>>> ?
>>> yes, I  did.
>>>
>>> 2) looking at your screenshot - I have noticed that you have
>> language
>>> "en " selected and the rest of the page is in Italian - how that
>>> happened? Maybe this is the cause?
>>>
>>> The same is with "it" label selected.
>>>
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> S.
>>>
>>> -- seb...@gm...
>>> -- GG: 335067,
>>> -- Jabber: seb...@gm...
>>> -- Skype: sebastiankruk
>>> -- WWW: http://www.sebastiankruk.com/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 8 May 2008, at 15:17, Giuseppe Bux wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Sebastian,
>>>> I’m working to the Italian translation of the
>> nlqueries_en.properties.
>>>> Please read, in the following, the  translation example on the
>>>> nlq.template.0. After the translation I  rebuilt the s3b_nlq.jar
>> and
>>>> copied it both in the jeromedl/lib and  in the tomcat/lib folders.
>>>> The result is as in http://screencast.com/t/SY7dY7xLH3 : that is, I
>>>> obtain the translation in the body of the NLQ window but  in the
>> option
>>>> selection text  area the English text still remains.
>>>> Obviously I updated also the nlqnlqueries_rdf.properties.
>>>> What is missing/wrong in my translation process?
>>>>
>>>> Thank you,
>>>> Giuseppe
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> # -- template definition (0) ------
>>>> nlq_template.0.example_template=Mostra tutte le pubblicazioni
>> registrate
>>>> in libreria.
>>>> nlq_template.0.explain         =Mostra tutte le pubblicazioni/
>> risorse
>>>> registrate in questa libreria digitale.
>>>> nlq_template.0.regexp.0        =Mostra\\s+(?:mi)?\\s*(?:tutte\\s+|
>>>> ogni\\s+|qualsiasi)?\\s*(?:risorsa[e]?\\s+|pubblicazione[i]?\\s+|
>>>> articolo[i]?\\s+|(?:qualsiasi)?oggetto)?\\s*in\\s+(?:nella\\s+|
>>>> questa)?\\s*(digital)?\\s*library[\\s.?!]*$
>>>> # nlq_template.0.regexp.0        =Show\\s+(?:me)?\\s*(?:all\\s+|
>> each\
>>>> \s+|every)?\\s*(?:resource[s]?\\s+|publication[s]?\\s+|article[s]?
>> \\s
>>>> +|(?:every)?thing)?\\s*in\\s+(?:the\\s+|this)?\\s*(digital)?\
>>>> \s*library[\\s.?!]*$
>>>> nlq_template.0.regexp.count    =1
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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Re: [S3b-users] R: [JeromeDL-users] R: nlqueries_it properties

[Adam G. <ada...@de...>]

Sebastian Kruk pisze:
> Giuseppe,
>
> thanks for the update - I will try to integrate and test it tomorrow.
>
> @Adam - I recall you mentioned something about a graphical UI for 
> managing regular expressions. Can you suggest one? I know that KDE has 
> one, but I guess we should find something for Windows to support users 
> inexperienced with RegExp.
>
>
I've been using RegexBuddy (http://www.regexbuddy.com/). version 2.3 
which was available for free evaluation download.
It is quite good, as you can import regex (it recognise many formats), 
then program analyse it and display the function tree. Then you can test 
strings and check if they match the regex. Finally you can export the 
regular expression in the format suitable for several programming 
languages (togheter with code snippets). There are also many regex 
examples.
 
There are version .3 available, it is not free, but you can download 
quite functional demo here (It looks like most of the functions are working)
http://www.newfreedownloads.com/download-RegexBuddy.html

Quite good, less user friendly but free - 
http://www.ultrapico.com/ExpressoDownload.htm It is designed for C++/C# 
but you can test and build Java-like regex - you need to change all "\\" 
to "\" and the other way round when your regex is created.





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[S3b-users] R: R: [JeromeDL-users] R: nlqueries_it properties

[Giuseppe B. <giu...@al...>]

Hi Sebastian,
please find here attached:
1) the updated nlqueries_it.properties: it is well working. It was very
useful the suggestion, by Adam, of a regexp tool (such as
http://www.ultrapico.com/ExpressoDownload.htm) to learn about regular
expressions. You can test my nlqueries_it on your jeromedl instance.
However, I have to highlight a strange remark: the only way to make running,
in jeromedl, the updated s3b_nlq.jar, is to include  the
nlqueries_it.properties file directly into your original .jar file
downloaded from jeromedl/trunk svn, and then to  rebuild the jeromedl
project. 

2) an error 500 report: at the invocation of semantic search in JeromeDL, it
is produced if I insert in jeromedl/lib an updated s3b_nlqjar file generated
by rebuilding the s3b project: it is a very strange system behavior.

As to the working nlqueries_it, I have to highlight another remark: it
concerns the behavior of the template definition.4 and related rdf queries.
Independently from the invoked regexp (either o or 1), the
nlq_template.4.query is always executed. So finding publications is done
only with reference to its given  keyword.  Finding publications also with
reference to its given domain, do not work.


I hope the results of my customization task could be useful to the jeromedl
testing purpose.

Cheers,
Giuseppe


-----Messaggio originale-----
Da: Sebastian Kruk [mailto:seb...@gm...] 
Inviato: giovedì 29 maggio 2008 18.02
A: Giuseppe Bux; Adam Gzella
Cc: 'Maria Cammarrota'; 'Antonio Chieti'; 'JeromeDL Users'; 'S3b-users'
Oggetto: Re: R: [JeromeDL-users] R: nlqueries_it properties

Giuseppe,

thanks for the update - I will try to integrate and test it tomorrow.

@Adam - I recall you mentioned something about a graphical UI for  
managing regular expressions. Can you suggest one? I know that KDE has  
one, but I guess we should find something for Windows to support users  
inexperienced with RegExp.

Thanks,

Sebastian

-- seb...@gm...
-- GG: 335067, 
-- Jabber: seb...@gm...
-- Skype: sebastiankruk
-- WWW: http://www.sebastiankruk.com/ 




On 29 May 2008, at 15:55, Giuseppe Bux wrote:

> Sebastian,
>
> Now I'm able to view the Italian translations in the NLQ query form,  
> however
> they still don't work. I tried also in esa.jeromedl.org, but also  
> there, the
> queries produce error 500 or any result.
> As to the Italian word like "scritta" or "scritte" they show  
> respectively
> the singular and the plural form (ex. singular form :pubblicazione  
> scritta;
> plural form: pubblicazioni scritte)
>
> Because in the NLQ templates we talk of publications (i.e. the  
> plural form),
> all related verbs should be in  plural form too.
>
> Please find in attachment a revision of the nlqueries_it.properties  
> file. I
> updated the verbal forms, related to publications/resources, from the
> singular to the plural expression.
>
> Moreover I updated also the src/org/jeromedl/sjsp/ 
> QueryProcessService.java
> module.
>
> In general I think that should be more understandable, and so more
> customizable, the relationships between nlq_templates specified in
> nlq_xx.properties and in nlq_rdf.properties. This is an aspect very
> important for our dContentWare customization purpose, because we would
> introduce new rdf query templates. Your updatings in
> ://wiki.corrib.org/index.php/S3B/NLQ#Remarks are a good help,  
> however the
> grammar of regexp expressions remains not well understandable and  
> manageable
> in customization processes.
>
> Please try, in esa.jeromedl.org, my revised nlqueries_it: I hope the
> updating of singular to plural forms of verbs, done both in the
> nlq_template.x.explain and in nlq_template.x.regexp, could be  
> sufficient to
> allow the calling and execution of related nlq_template.x.query.
>
> I apologize, if my customization process is involving your heavy
> contribution but I hope it will be fruitful for other similar  
> jeromedl user
> initiatives. As to my own contribution, I will make available to the
> jeromedl project all our customization results that could be useful  
> to the
> Jeromedl user community.
>
> Cheers,
> Giuseppe
>
>
> -----Messaggio originale-----
> Da: Sebastian Kruk [mailto:seb...@gm...]
> Inviato: giovedì 29 maggio 2008 13.52
> A: Giuseppe Bux
> Cc: 'Maria Cammarrota'; 'Antonio Chieti'; 'JeromeDL Users'; 'S3b- 
> users'
> Oggetto: Re: [JeromeDL-users] R: nlqueries_it properties
>
> Giuseppe,
>
> I think I know what is the problem with your NLQ translations.
>
> 1) First of all, the last line in nlqueries_it.properties was
> commented and the engine was missing nlq_template.explain entry
>
> 2) I do not know Italian but I think the regular expressions that you
> provided are not correct. E.g., an example template for the second
> query is
>
> Mostra tutte le pubblicazioni scritte da ...
>
> when you put Kruk instead of ... it will not find anything. I have
> analyzed your regexp and rewrote the query to
>
> Mostra tutte pubblicazione scritta da Kruk.
>
> And got the results. You can test it at esa.jeromedl.org (I will send
> you credentials in a separate email).
>
>
> Btw. I have also found a small bug in
>
> src/org/jeromedl/sjsp/QueryProcessService.java
>
> in method
>
> processNLQ(HttpServletRequest request, ServletStateBundle bundle)
> (around line 187)
>
> where it was
>  if(rdfq.get() != null) //CHECK
> and should be
>  if(rdfq.get() != null && !"".equals(rdfq)) //CHECK
>
> Since we have rebuild JeromeDL heavily recently I cannot submit it
> directly to SVN. But you can update your own source code.
>
> (@Mariusz can you correct this in the recent version of JeromeDL
> source?)
>
> I hope this was helpful.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Sebastian
>
>
> -- seb...@gm...
> -- GG: 335067, 
> -- Jabber: seb...@gm...
> -- Skype: sebastiankruk
> -- WWW: http://www.sebastiankruk.com/ 
>
>
>
>
> On 23 May 2008, at 15:05, Giuseppe Bux wrote:
>
>> Hi Sebastian,
>> please find here attached the complete nlqueries_it.properties
>> file, obtained by strict translation of the nlqueries_en.properties
>> file.  I tried to rebuild the s3b_nlq.jar, then to insert it in the
>> JeromeDL  ../lib, and to rebuild the jeromedl itself, but I have an
>> error 500,  as in the full stack trace here attached, which is
>> different from the error 500 I had yesterday. I attach also the
>> nlqueries_rdf.properties  file updated in the nlq_locale
>> instructions. Please try, either yourself or Mariusz,  to make the
>> nlqueries_it running on the http://bleedingedge.jeromedl.org/  from
>> the “it” user interface. As soon the whole  it translation will be
>> running I will produce proper translation adjustments .
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Giuseppe
>>
>>
>>
>> Da: Giuseppe Bux [mailto:giu...@al...]
>> Inviato: giovedì 22 maggio 2008 10.26
>> A: 'Sebastian Kruk'
>> Cc: 'S3b-users'; 'JeromeDL Users'; 'Antonio Chieti'; 'Maria
>> Cammarrota'
>> Oggetto: R: [JeromeDL-users] nlqueries_it properties
>>
>> Hi Sebastian,
>> After my last rebuilding, this morning,  both of the jarNlq and the
>> of the jeromedl I have an error 500 report generated at the enaction
>> of the semantic search feature: Please find here the attached  error
>> report.
>> Really at a first rebuilding, yesterday, the enaction of the
>> semantic search feature was successful  as well the execution of the
>> first option (publish all publication…..), although this  successful
>> behavior was occurring only in the case of  the english version (i.e
>> nlqueries_en. properties), while in the case of the other locale
>> versions the JWA-533 was still persistent.
>>
>> I do not find a plausible explanation of the different system
>> behavior after the rebuilding  of nlq and jeromedl projects: I hope
>> you could suggest me a possible cause.
>>
>> As to the below open questions:
>> 1)      Yes, I updated the nlq_locale.count value;
>> 2)      I think the http://wiki.s3b.corrib.org/NLQ requires
>> expansion about the grammar used in regexp specification; I consider
>> important that to support customization of the nlqueries templates.
>> 3)      As to my introduction to this email, the error seems as
>> fixed for the nlqueries_en  template but it still occurs for the
>> other nlqueries.xx template;
>> 4)      Yes, I am sending a ticket to Jira.
>>
>> Semantic query customization is a very necessary task in my
>> dContentWare project, not only in terms of language translation, but
>> more in terms of alternative rdf queries and related templates to
>> implement. Obviously, the pure _it translation of the current _en
>> template is a first important step. I hope to realize that with your
>> help.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Giuseppe
>>
>> Da: Sebastian Kruk [mailto:seb...@gm...]
>> Inviato: mercoledì 21 maggio 2008 15.34
>> A: Giuseppe Bux
>> Cc: S3b-users; JeromeDL Users; Antonio Chieti; Maria Cammarrota
>> Oggetto: Re: [JeromeDL-users] nlqueries_it properties
>>
>> Dear Giuseppe,
>>
>> I am sorry for getting back to you that late - but we are all still
>> recovering from the DERI Review madness last week :)
>>
>> To answer your questions:
>> 1) did you change nlq_locale.count value?
>>
>> 2) take a look at http://wiki.s3b.corrib.org/NLQ and let me know if
>> it requires any further explanation
>>
>> 3) fixed - there were two issues there: a) a group capture
>> definition in regexp b) missing USING NAMESPACE in SeRQL query
>>
>> 4) At the moment NLQ only allows to define SELECT queries which
>> return a vector of results (not a table). Further more, JeromeDL
>> cannot render (currently) other objects than library resources. An
>> option would be to use MBB to render results. However, at this stage
>> I do not plan (in the near future) to extend NLQ since I do not have
>> time / people / resources to do it. But I do get your point, and I
>> think it is valid. Can you please send a ticket to JIRA with it?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Sebastian
>>
>>
>> -- seb...@gm...
>> -- GG: 335067, 
>> -- Jabber: seb...@gm...
>> -- Skype: sebastiankruk
>> -- WWW: http://www.sebastiankruk.com/ 
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 12 May 2008, at 09:36, Giuseppe Bux wrote:
>>
>> Hi Sebastian,
>> please takes into account some additional feedback from my current
>> work on nlqueries_it translation and, in general, on nlqueries
>> customization:
>>
>> 1) nlq_locale.x=yy:
>> I enabled  the nlq_locale.x=yy  for all the available nlqueries_yy
>> templates (that is: en, it, pl, de, pt_BR, uk), however only the
>> nlqueries_pt_BR template, when invoked, is able to show, in its own
>> language, both the NL query options, in the selectabe text area,
>> and  the selected one, in the body of the query window (really, the
>> last available options, about finding of articles in a given domain,
>> is still shown in English). This behavior occurs also on
> http://bleedingedge.jeromedl.org./
>> .
>>
>> 2) nlq_template.x.regexp.x expressions:
>> an explanation grammar could be useful to easily allow users to
>> customize the expressions;
>>
>> 3) Show me all publications in the library:
>> this option still fails, as from my  report JWA-533; I tried to
>> replace the  current "Select" query with the old "Construct" one,
>> but the failure remains: it is not a problem of query but of its
>> invoking code.
>>
>> 4) More general  RDF queries:  it could be useful to allow users to
>> set more general rdf queries. I tried the following query about
>> authors of the published books:
>>
>> Select DISTINCT *
>> FROM {r} marcont:hasCreator {} foaf:name {t}; foaf:mbox {m}
>> USING NAMESPACE  marcont = <http://www.marcont.org/ontology#>, foaf
>> = <http://xmlns.com/foaf/0.1/>
>> As from the above query, it could be useful to extract some
>> information about authors  of publications (ex. the email address,
>> or the biography), but the JDL result concerns only the list of
>> publications, without the required additional information about the
>> related authors.
>>
>>
>> Not more to add: I hope the above feedback could soon have suitable
>> solutions.
>>
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Giuseppe
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Giuseppe Bux" <giu...@al...>
>> To: "Sebastian Kruk" <seb...@gm...>
>> Cc: "Sebastian Kruk" <seb...@de...>; "Maria Cammarrota"
> <cam...@or...
>>> ; "Antonio Chieti" <in...@or...>; "JeromeDL Users"
> <jer...@li...
>>>
>> Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2008 6:26 PM
>> Subject: Re: [JeromeDL-users] nlqueries_it properties
>>
>>> Hi Sebastian,
>>>
>>> see below inline my answers.
>>> Moreover: where can I read about the grammar of
>>> nlq_template.0.regexp.0 ?
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Giuseppe
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Sebastian Kruk" <seb...@gm...>
>>> To: "Giuseppe Bux" <giu...@al...>
>>> Cc: "Sebastian Kruk" <seb...@de...>; "Maria Cammarrota"
>>> <cam...@or...>; "Antonio Chieti"
>> <in...@or...>;
>>> "JeromeDL Users" <jer...@li...>
>>> Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2008 4:40 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [JeromeDL-users] nlqueries_it properties
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi Giuseppe,
>>>
>>> just from the top of my head:
>>>
>>> 1) Did you update nlqueries_rdf.properties
>>>
>>> e.g.:
>>>
>>> nlq_locale.0=en
>>> nlq_locale.1=pt_BR
>>> nlq_locale.2=it
>>> nlq_locale.count=3
>>>
>>> ?
>>> yes, I  did.
>>>
>>> 2) looking at your screenshot - I have noticed that you have
>> language
>>> "en " selected and the rest of the page is in Italian - how that
>>> happened? Maybe this is the cause?
>>>
>>> The same is with "it" label selected.
>>>
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> S.
>>>
>>> -- seb...@gm...
>>> -- GG: 335067,
>>> -- Jabber: seb...@gm...
>>> -- Skype: sebastiankruk
>>> -- WWW: http://www.sebastiankruk.com/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 8 May 2008, at 15:17, Giuseppe Bux wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Sebastian,
>>>> I’m working to the Italian translation of the
>> nlqueries_en.properties.
>>>> Please read, in the following, the  translation example on the
>>>> nlq.template.0. After the translation I  rebuilt the s3b_nlq.jar
>> and
>>>> copied it both in the jeromedl/lib and  in the tomcat/lib folders.
>>>> The result is as in http://screencast.com/t/SY7dY7xLH3 : that is, I
>>>> obtain the translation in the body of the NLQ window but  in the
>> option
>>>> selection text  area the English text still remains.
>>>> Obviously I updated also the nlqnlqueries_rdf.properties.
>>>> What is missing/wrong in my translation process?
>>>>
>>>> Thank you,
>>>> Giuseppe
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> # -- template definition (0) ------
>>>> nlq_template.0.example_template=Mostra tutte le pubblicazioni
>> registrate
>>>> in libreria.
>>>> nlq_template.0.explain         =Mostra tutte le pubblicazioni/
>> risorse
>>>> registrate in questa libreria digitale.
>>>> nlq_template.0.regexp.0        =Mostra\\s+(?:mi)?\\s*(?:tutte\\s+|
>>>> ogni\\s+|qualsiasi)?\\s*(?:risorsa[e]?\\s+|pubblicazione[i]?\\s+|
>>>> articolo[i]?\\s+|(?:qualsiasi)?oggetto)?\\s*in\\s+(?:nella\\s+|
>>>> questa)?\\s*(digital)?\\s*library[\\s.?!]*$
>>>> # nlq_template.0.regexp.0        =Show\\s+(?:me)?\\s*(?:all\\s+|
>> each\
>>>> \s+|every)?\\s*(?:resource[s]?\\s+|publication[s]?\\s+|article[s]?
>> \\s
>>>> +|(?:every)?thing)?\\s*in\\s+(?:the\\s+|this)?\\s*(digital)?\
>>>> \s*library[\\s.?!]*$
>>>> nlq_template.0.regexp.count    =1
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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Re: [S3b-users] R: R: [JeromeDL-users] R: nlqueries_it properties

[Sebastian K. <seb...@gm...>]

Hi Giuseppe,

thanks for you efforts. I am happy to hear it started working for you.

Regarding the problems with compilation - hmm - do you maybe use Java6  
by any chance?

I will take a look at the query no. 4 and check what might be wrong  
with it.

Cheers,

Sebastian

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On 3 Jun 2008, at 08:48, Giuseppe Bux wrote:

> Hi Sebastian,
> please find here attached:
> 1) the updated nlqueries_it.properties: it is well working. It was  
> very
> useful the suggestion, by Adam, of a regexp tool (such as
> http://www.ultrapico.com/ExpressoDownload.htm) to learn about regular
> expressions. You can test my nlqueries_it on your jeromedl instance.
> However, I have to highlight a strange remark: the only way to make  
> running,
> in jeromedl, the updated s3b_nlq.jar, is to include  the
> nlqueries_it.properties file directly into your original .jar file
> downloaded from jeromedl/trunk svn, and then to  rebuild the jeromedl
> project.
>
> 2) an error 500 report: at the invocation of semantic search in  
> JeromeDL, it
> is produced if I insert in jeromedl/lib an updated s3b_nlqjar file  
> generated
> by rebuilding the s3b project: it is a very strange system behavior.
>
> As to the working nlqueries_it, I have to highlight another remark: it
> concerns the behavior of the template definition.4 and related rdf  
> queries.
> Independently from the invoked regexp (either o or 1), the
> nlq_template.4.query is always executed. So finding publications is  
> done
> only with reference to its given  keyword.  Finding publications  
> also with
> reference to its given domain, do not work.
>
>
> I hope the results of my customization task could be useful to the  
> jeromedl
> testing purpose.
>
> Cheers,
> Giuseppe
>
>
> -----Messaggio originale-----
> Da: Sebastian Kruk [mailto:seb...@gm...]
> Inviato: giovedì 29 maggio 2008 18.02
> A: Giuseppe Bux; Adam Gzella
> Cc: 'Maria Cammarrota'; 'Antonio Chieti'; 'JeromeDL Users'; 'S3b- 
> users'
> Oggetto: Re: R: [JeromeDL-users] R: nlqueries_it properties
>
> Giuseppe,
>
> thanks for the update - I will try to integrate and test it tomorrow.
>
> @Adam - I recall you mentioned something about a graphical UI for
> managing regular expressions. Can you suggest one? I know that KDE has
> one, but I guess we should find something for Windows to support users
> inexperienced with RegExp.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Sebastian
>
> -- seb...@gm...
> -- GG: 335067, 
> -- Jabber: seb...@gm...
> -- Skype: sebastiankruk
> -- WWW: http://www.sebastiankruk.com/ 
>
>
>
>
> On 29 May 2008, at 15:55, Giuseppe Bux wrote:
>
>> Sebastian,
>>
>> Now I'm able to view the Italian translations in the NLQ query form,
>> however
>> they still don't work. I tried also in esa.jeromedl.org, but also
>> there, the
>> queries produce error 500 or any result.
>> As to the Italian word like "scritta" or "scritte" they show
>> respectively
>> the singular and the plural form (ex. singular form :pubblicazione
>> scritta;
>> plural form: pubblicazioni scritte)
>>
>> Because in the NLQ templates we talk of publications (i.e. the
>> plural form),
>> all related verbs should be in  plural form too.
>>
>> Please find in attachment a revision of the nlqueries_it.properties
>> file. I
>> updated the verbal forms, related to publications/resources, from the
>> singular to the plural expression.
>>
>> Moreover I updated also the src/org/jeromedl/sjsp/
>> QueryProcessService.java
>> module.
>>
>> In general I think that should be more understandable, and so more
>> customizable, the relationships between nlq_templates specified in
>> nlq_xx.properties and in nlq_rdf.properties. This is an aspect very
>> important for our dContentWare customization purpose, because we  
>> would
>> introduce new rdf query templates. Your updatings in
>> ://wiki.corrib.org/index.php/S3B/NLQ#Remarks are a good help,
>> however the
>> grammar of regexp expressions remains not well understandable and
>> manageable
>> in customization processes.
>>
>> Please try, in esa.jeromedl.org, my revised nlqueries_it: I hope the
>> updating of singular to plural forms of verbs, done both in the
>> nlq_template.x.explain and in nlq_template.x.regexp, could be
>> sufficient to
>> allow the calling and execution of related nlq_template.x.query.
>>
>> I apologize, if my customization process is involving your heavy
>> contribution but I hope it will be fruitful for other similar
>> jeromedl user
>> initiatives. As to my own contribution, I will make available to the
>> jeromedl project all our customization results that could be useful
>> to the
>> Jeromedl user community.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Giuseppe
>>
>>
>> -----Messaggio originale-----
>> Da: Sebastian Kruk [mailto:seb...@gm...]
>> Inviato: giovedì 29 maggio 2008 13.52
>> A: Giuseppe Bux
>> Cc: 'Maria Cammarrota'; 'Antonio Chieti'; 'JeromeDL Users'; 'S3b-
>> users'
>> Oggetto: Re: [JeromeDL-users] R: nlqueries_it properties
>>
>> Giuseppe,
>>
>> I think I know what is the problem with your NLQ translations.
>>
>> 1) First of all, the last line in nlqueries_it.properties was
>> commented and the engine was missing nlq_template.explain entry
>>
>> 2) I do not know Italian but I think the regular expressions that you
>> provided are not correct. E.g., an example template for the second
>> query is
>>
>> Mostra tutte le pubblicazioni scritte da ...
>>
>> when you put Kruk instead of ... it will not find anything. I have
>> analyzed your regexp and rewrote the query to
>>
>> Mostra tutte pubblicazione scritta da Kruk.
>>
>> And got the results. You can test it at esa.jeromedl.org (I will send
>> you credentials in a separate email).
>>
>>
>> Btw. I have also found a small bug in
>>
>> src/org/jeromedl/sjsp/QueryProcessService.java
>>
>> in method
>>
>> processNLQ(HttpServletRequest request, ServletStateBundle bundle)
>> (around line 187)
>>
>> where it was
>> if(rdfq.get() != null) //CHECK
>> and should be
>> if(rdfq.get() != null && !"".equals(rdfq)) //CHECK
>>
>> Since we have rebuild JeromeDL heavily recently I cannot submit it
>> directly to SVN. But you can update your own source code.
>>
>> (@Mariusz can you correct this in the recent version of JeromeDL
>> source?)
>>
>> I hope this was helpful.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Sebastian
>>
>>
>> -- seb...@gm...
>> -- GG: 335067, 
>> -- Jabber: seb...@gm...
>> -- Skype: sebastiankruk
>> -- WWW: http://www.sebastiankruk.com/ 
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 23 May 2008, at 15:05, Giuseppe Bux wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Sebastian,
>>> please find here attached the complete nlqueries_it.properties
>>> file, obtained by strict translation of the nlqueries_en.properties
>>> file.  I tried to rebuild the s3b_nlq.jar, then to insert it in the
>>> JeromeDL  ../lib, and to rebuild the jeromedl itself, but I have an
>>> error 500,  as in the full stack trace here attached, which is
>>> different from the error 500 I had yesterday. I attach also the
>>> nlqueries_rdf.properties  file updated in the nlq_locale
>>> instructions. Please try, either yourself or Mariusz,  to make the
>>> nlqueries_it running on the http://bleedingedge.jeromedl.org/  from
>>> the “it” user interface. As soon the whole  it translation will be
>>> running I will produce proper translation adjustments .
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Giuseppe
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Da: Giuseppe Bux [mailto:giu...@al...]
>>> Inviato: giovedì 22 maggio 2008 10.26
>>> A: 'Sebastian Kruk'
>>> Cc: 'S3b-users'; 'JeromeDL Users'; 'Antonio Chieti'; 'Maria
>>> Cammarrota'
>>> Oggetto: R: [JeromeDL-users] nlqueries_it properties
>>>
>>> Hi Sebastian,
>>> After my last rebuilding, this morning,  both of the jarNlq and the
>>> of the jeromedl I have an error 500 report generated at the enaction
>>> of the semantic search feature: Please find here the attached  error
>>> report.
>>> Really at a first rebuilding, yesterday, the enaction of the
>>> semantic search feature was successful  as well the execution of the
>>> first option (publish all publication…..), although this  successful
>>> behavior was occurring only in the case of  the english version (i.e
>>> nlqueries_en. properties), while in the case of the other locale
>>> versions the JWA-533 was still persistent.
>>>
>>> I do not find a plausible explanation of the different system
>>> behavior after the rebuilding  of nlq and jeromedl projects: I hope
>>> you could suggest me a possible cause.
>>>
>>> As to the below open questions:
>>> 1)      Yes, I updated the nlq_locale.count value;
>>> 2)      I think the http://wiki.s3b.corrib.org/NLQ requires
>>> expansion about the grammar used in regexp specification; I consider
>>> important that to support customization of the nlqueries templates.
>>> 3)      As to my introduction to this email, the error seems as
>>> fixed for the nlqueries_en  template but it still occurs for the
>>> other nlqueries.xx template;
>>> 4)      Yes, I am sending a ticket to Jira.
>>>
>>> Semantic query customization is a very necessary task in my
>>> dContentWare project, not only in terms of language translation, but
>>> more in terms of alternative rdf queries and related templates to
>>> implement. Obviously, the pure _it translation of the current _en
>>> template is a first important step. I hope to realize that with your
>>> help.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Giuseppe
>>>
>>> Da: Sebastian Kruk [mailto:seb...@gm...]
>>> Inviato: mercoledì 21 maggio 2008 15.34
>>> A: Giuseppe Bux
>>> Cc: S3b-users; JeromeDL Users; Antonio Chieti; Maria Cammarrota
>>> Oggetto: Re: [JeromeDL-users] nlqueries_it properties
>>>
>>> Dear Giuseppe,
>>>
>>> I am sorry for getting back to you that late - but we are all still
>>> recovering from the DERI Review madness last week :)
>>>
>>> To answer your questions:
>>> 1) did you change nlq_locale.count value?
>>>
>>> 2) take a look at http://wiki.s3b.corrib.org/NLQ and let me know if
>>> it requires any further explanation
>>>
>>> 3) fixed - there were two issues there: a) a group capture
>>> definition in regexp b) missing USING NAMESPACE in SeRQL query
>>>
>>> 4) At the moment NLQ only allows to define SELECT queries which
>>> return a vector of results (not a table). Further more, JeromeDL
>>> cannot render (currently) other objects than library resources. An
>>> option would be to use MBB to render results. However, at this stage
>>> I do not plan (in the near future) to extend NLQ since I do not have
>>> time / people / resources to do it. But I do get your point, and I
>>> think it is valid. Can you please send a ticket to JIRA with it?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Sebastian
>>>
>>>
>>> -- seb...@gm...
>>> -- GG: 335067, 
>>> -- Jabber: seb...@gm...
>>> -- Skype: sebastiankruk
>>> -- WWW: http://www.sebastiankruk.com/ 
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 12 May 2008, at 09:36, Giuseppe Bux wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Sebastian,
>>> please takes into account some additional feedback from my current
>>> work on nlqueries_it translation and, in general, on nlqueries
>>> customization:
>>>
>>> 1) nlq_locale.x=yy:
>>> I enabled  the nlq_locale.x=yy  for all the available nlqueries_yy
>>> templates (that is: en, it, pl, de, pt_BR, uk), however only the
>>> nlqueries_pt_BR template, when invoked, is able to show, in its own
>>> language, both the NL query options, in the selectabe text area,
>>> and  the selected one, in the body of the query window (really, the
>>> last available options, about finding of articles in a given domain,
>>> is still shown in English). This behavior occurs also on
>> http://bleedingedge.jeromedl.org./
>>> .
>>>
>>> 2) nlq_template.x.regexp.x expressions:
>>> an explanation grammar could be useful to easily allow users to
>>> customize the expressions;
>>>
>>> 3) Show me all publications in the library:
>>> this option still fails, as from my  report JWA-533; I tried to
>>> replace the  current "Select" query with the old "Construct" one,
>>> but the failure remains: it is not a problem of query but of its
>>> invoking code.
>>>
>>> 4) More general  RDF queries:  it could be useful to allow users to
>>> set more general rdf queries. I tried the following query about
>>> authors of the published books:
>>>
>>> Select DISTINCT *
>>> FROM {r} marcont:hasCreator {} foaf:name {t}; foaf:mbox {m}
>>> USING NAMESPACE  marcont = <http://www.marcont.org/ontology#>, foaf
>>> = <http://xmlns.com/foaf/0.1/>
>>> As from the above query, it could be useful to extract some
>>> information about authors  of publications (ex. the email address,
>>> or the biography), but the JDL result concerns only the list of
>>> publications, without the required additional information about the
>>> related authors.
>>>
>>>
>>> Not more to add: I hope the above feedback could soon have suitable
>>> solutions.
>>>
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Giuseppe
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Giuseppe Bux" <giu...@al...>
>>> To: "Sebastian Kruk" <seb...@gm...>
>>> Cc: "Sebastian Kruk" <seb...@de...>; "Maria Cammarrota"
>> <cam...@or...
>>>> ; "Antonio Chieti" <in...@or...>; "JeromeDL Users"
>> <jer...@li...
>>>>
>>> Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2008 6:26 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [JeromeDL-users] nlqueries_it properties
>>>
>>>> Hi Sebastian,
>>>>
>>>> see below inline my answers.
>>>> Moreover: where can I read about the grammar of
>>>> nlq_template.0.regexp.0 ?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Giuseppe
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Sebastian Kruk" <seb...@gm...>
>>>> To: "Giuseppe Bux" <giu...@al...>
>>>> Cc: "Sebastian Kruk" <seb...@de...>; "Maria Cammarrota"
>>>> <cam...@or...>; "Antonio Chieti"
>>> <in...@or...>;
>>>> "JeromeDL Users" <jer...@li...>
>>>> Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2008 4:40 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [JeromeDL-users] nlqueries_it properties
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi Giuseppe,
>>>>
>>>> just from the top of my head:
>>>>
>>>> 1) Did you update nlqueries_rdf.properties
>>>>
>>>> e.g.:
>>>>
>>>> nlq_locale.0=en
>>>> nlq_locale.1=pt_BR
>>>> nlq_locale.2=it
>>>> nlq_locale.count=3
>>>>
>>>> ?
>>>> yes, I  did.
>>>>
>>>> 2) looking at your screenshot - I have noticed that you have
>>> language
>>>> "en " selected and the rest of the page is in Italian - how that
>>>> happened? Maybe this is the cause?
>>>>
>>>> The same is with "it" label selected.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>>
>>>> S.
>>>>
>>>> -- seb...@gm...
>>>> -- GG: 335067,
>>>> -- Jabber: seb...@gm...
>>>> -- Skype: sebastiankruk
>>>> -- WWW: http://www.sebastiankruk.com/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 8 May 2008, at 15:17, Giuseppe Bux wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Sebastian,
>>>>> I’m working to the Italian translation of the
>>> nlqueries_en.properties.
>>>>> Please read, in the following, the  translation example on the
>>>>> nlq.template.0. After the translation I  rebuilt the s3b_nlq.jar
>>> and
>>>>> copied it both in the jeromedl/lib and  in the tomcat/lib folders.
>>>>> The result is as in http://screencast.com/t/SY7dY7xLH3 : that  
>>>>> is, I
>>>>> obtain the translation in the body of the NLQ window but  in the
>>> option
>>>>> selection text  area the English text still remains.
>>>>> Obviously I updated also the nlqnlqueries_rdf.properties.
>>>>> What is missing/wrong in my translation process?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you,
>>>>> Giuseppe
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> # -- template definition (0) ------
>>>>> nlq_template.0.example_template=Mostra tutte le pubblicazioni
>>> registrate
>>>>> in libreria.
>>>>> nlq_template.0.explain         =Mostra tutte le pubblicazioni/
>>> risorse
>>>>> registrate in questa libreria digitale.
>>>>> nlq_template.0.regexp.0        =Mostra\\s+(?:mi)?\\s*(?:tutte\\s+|
>>>>> ogni\\s+|qualsiasi)?\\s*(?:risorsa[e]?\\s+|pubblicazione[i]?\\s+|
>>>>> articolo[i]?\\s+|(?:qualsiasi)?oggetto)?\\s*in\\s+(?:nella\\s+|
>>>>> questa)?\\s*(digital)?\\s*library[\\s.?!]*$
>>>>> # nlq_template.0.regexp.0        =Show\\s+(?:me)?\\s*(?:all\\s+|
>>> each\
>>>>> \s+|every)?\\s*(?:resource[s]?\\s+|publication[s]?\\s+|article[s]?
>>> \\s
>>>>> +|(?:every)?thing)?\\s*in\\s+(?:the\\s+|this)?\\s*(digital)?\
>>>>> \s*library[\\s.?!]*$
>>>>> nlq_template.0.regexp.count    =1
>>>>>
>>>>>
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Re: [S3b-users] [JeromeDL-users] R: nlqueries_it properties

[Sebastian K. <seb...@gm...>]

Hi Giuseppe,

I am trying to track old, unresolved issues.
Has this been fixed already? Or can I still help you with it? If the  
latter - can you send me the most recent version of the italian query  
templates?

Thanks,

Sebastian

-- seb...@gm...
-- GG: 335067, 
-- Jabber: seb...@gm...
-- Skype: sebastiankruk
-- WWW: http://www.sebastiankruk.com/ 




On 22 May 2008, at 09:25, Giuseppe Bux wrote:

> Hi Sebastian,
> After my last rebuilding, this morning,  both of the jarNlq and the  
> of the jeromedl I have an error 500 report generated at the enaction  
> of the semantic search feature: Please find here the attached  error  
> report.
> Really at a first rebuilding, yesterday, the enaction of the  
> semantic search feature was successful  as well the execution of the  
> first option (publish all publication…..), although this  successful  
> behavior was occurring only in the case of  the english version (i.e  
> nlqueries_en. properties), while in the case of the other locale  
> versions the JWA-533 was still persistent.
>
> I do not find a plausible explanation of the different system  
> behavior after the rebuilding  of nlq and jeromedl projects: I hope  
> you could suggest me a possible cause.
>
> As to the below open questions:
> 1)      Yes, I updated the nlq_locale.count value;
> 2)      I think the http://wiki.s3b.corrib.org/NLQ requires  
> expansion about the grammar used in regexp specification; I consider  
> important that to support customization of the nlqueries templates.
> 3)      As to my introduction to this email, the error seems as  
> fixed for the nlqueries_en  template but it still occurs for the  
> other nlqueries.xx template;
> 4)      Yes, I am sending a ticket to Jira.
>
> Semantic query customization is a very necessary task in my   
> dContentWare project, not only in terms of language translation, but  
> more in terms of alternative rdf queries and related templates to  
> implement. Obviously, the pure _it translation of the current _en  
> template is a first important step. I hope to realize that with your  
> help.
>
> Cheers,
> Giuseppe
>
> Da: Sebastian Kruk [mailto:seb...@gm...]
> Inviato: mercoledì 21 maggio 2008 15.34
> A: Giuseppe Bux
> Cc: S3b-users; JeromeDL Users; Antonio Chieti; Maria Cammarrota
> Oggetto: Re: [JeromeDL-users] nlqueries_it properties
>
> Dear Giuseppe,
>
> I am sorry for getting back to you that late - but we are all still  
> recovering from the DERI Review madness last week :)
>
> To answer your questions:
> 1) did you change nlq_locale.count value?
>
> 2) take a look at http://wiki.s3b.corrib.org/NLQ and let me know if  
> it requires any further explanation
>
> 3) fixed - there were two issues there: a) a group capture  
> definition in regexp b) missing USING NAMESPACE in SeRQL query
>
> 4) At the moment NLQ only allows to define SELECT queries which  
> return a vector of results (not a table). Further more, JeromeDL  
> cannot render (currently) other objects than library resources. An  
> option would be to use MBB to render results. However, at this stage  
> I do not plan (in the near future) to extend NLQ since I do not have  
> time / people / resources to do it. But I do get your point, and I  
> think it is valid. Can you please send a ticket to JIRA with it?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Sebastian
>
>
> -- seb...@gm...
> -- GG: 335067, 
> -- Jabber: seb...@gm...
> -- Skype: sebastiankruk
> -- WWW: http://www.sebastiankruk.com/ 
>
>
>
>
> On 12 May 2008, at 09:36, Giuseppe Bux wrote:
>
>
> Hi Sebastian,
> please takes into account some additional feedback from my current  
> work on nlqueries_it translation and, in general, on nlqueries  
> customization:
>
> 1) nlq_locale.x=yy:
> I enabled  the nlq_locale.x=yy  for all the available nlqueries_yy  
> templates (that is: en, it, pl, de, pt_BR, uk), however only the  
> nlqueries_pt_BR template, when invoked, is able to show, in its own  
> language, both the NL query options, in the selectabe text area,  
> and  the selected one, in the body of the query window (really, the  
> last available options, about finding of articles in a given domain,  
> is still shown in English). This behavior occurs also on http://bleedingedge.jeromedl.org./ 
> .
>
> 2) nlq_template.x.regexp.x expressions:
> an explanation grammar could be useful to easily allow users to  
> customize the expressions;
>
> 3) Show me all publications in the library:
> this option still fails, as from my  report JWA-533; I tried to  
> replace the  current "Select" query with the old "Construct" one,  
> but the failure remains: it is not a problem of query but of its  
> invoking code.
>
> 4) More general  RDF queries:  it could be useful to allow users to  
> set more general rdf queries. I tried the following query about  
> authors of the published books:
>
> Select DISTINCT *
> FROM {r} marcont:hasCreator {} foaf:name {t}; foaf:mbox {m}
> USING NAMESPACE  marcont = <http://www.marcont.org/ontology#>, foaf  
> = <http://xmlns.com/foaf/0.1/>
> As from the above query, it could be useful to extract some  
> information about authors  of publications (ex. the email address,  
> or the biography), but the JDL result concerns only the list of  
> publications, without the required additional information about the  
> related authors.
>
>
> Not more to add: I hope the above feedback could soon have suitable  
> solutions.
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> Giuseppe
>
>
>  ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Giuseppe Bux" <giu...@al...>
> To: "Sebastian Kruk" <seb...@gm...>
> Cc: "Sebastian Kruk" <seb...@de...>; "Maria Cammarrota" <cam...@or... 
> >; "Antonio Chieti" <in...@or...>; "JeromeDL Users" <jer...@li... 
> >
> Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2008 6:26 PM
> Subject: Re: [JeromeDL-users] nlqueries_it properties
>
> > Hi Sebastian,
> >
> > see below inline my answers.
> > Moreover: where can I read about the grammar of
> > nlq_template.0.regexp.0 ?
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Giuseppe
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Sebastian Kruk" <seb...@gm...>
> > To: "Giuseppe Bux" <giu...@al...>
> > Cc: "Sebastian Kruk" <seb...@de...>; "Maria Cammarrota"
> > <cam...@or...>; "Antonio Chieti"  
> <in...@or...>;
> > "JeromeDL Users" <jer...@li...>
> > Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2008 4:40 PM
> > Subject: Re: [JeromeDL-users] nlqueries_it properties
> >
> >
> > Hi Giuseppe,
> >
> > just from the top of my head:
> >
> > 1) Did you update nlqueries_rdf.properties
> >
> > e.g.:
> >
> > nlq_locale.0=en
> > nlq_locale.1=pt_BR
> > nlq_locale.2=it
> > nlq_locale.count=3
> >
> > ?
> > yes, I  did.
> >
> > 2) looking at your screenshot - I have noticed that you have  
> language
> > "en " selected and the rest of the page is in Italian - how that
> > happened? Maybe this is the cause?
> >
> > The same is with "it" label selected.
> >
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > S.
> >
> > -- seb...@gm...
> > -- GG: 335067,
> > -- Jabber: seb...@gm...
> > -- Skype: sebastiankruk
> > -- WWW: http://www.sebastiankruk.com/
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 8 May 2008, at 15:17, Giuseppe Bux wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Sebastian,
> >> I’m working to the Italian translation of the   
> nlqueries_en.properties.
> >> Please read, in the following, the  translation example on the
> >> nlq.template.0. After the translation I  rebuilt the s3b_nlq.jar  
> and
> >> copied it both in the jeromedl/lib and  in the tomcat/lib folders.
> >> The result is as in http://screencast.com/t/SY7dY7xLH3 : that is, I
> >> obtain the translation in the body of the NLQ window but  in the   
> option
> >> selection text  area the English text still remains.
> >> Obviously I updated also the nlqnlqueries_rdf.properties.
> >> What is missing/wrong in my translation process?
> >>
> >> Thank you,
> >> Giuseppe
> >>
> >>
> >> # -- template definition (0) ------
> >> nlq_template.0.example_template=Mostra tutte le pubblicazioni   
> registrate
> >> in libreria.
> >> nlq_template.0.explain         =Mostra tutte le pubblicazioni/  
> risorse
> >> registrate in questa libreria digitale.
> >> nlq_template.0.regexp.0        =Mostra\\s+(?:mi)?\\s*(?:tutte\\s+|
> >> ogni\\s+|qualsiasi)?\\s*(?:risorsa[e]?\\s+|pubblicazione[i]?\\s+|
> >> articolo[i]?\\s+|(?:qualsiasi)?oggetto)?\\s*in\\s+(?:nella\\s+|
> >> questa)?\\s*(digital)?\\s*library[\\s.?!]*$
> >> # nlq_template.0.regexp.0        =Show\\s+(?:me)?\\s*(?:all\\s+| 
> each\
> >> \s+|every)?\\s*(?:resource[s]?\\s+|publication[s]?\\s+|article[s]? 
> \\s
> >> +|(?:every)?thing)?\\s*in\\s+(?:the\\s+|this)?\\s*(digital)?\
> >> \s*library[\\s.?!]*$
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[S3b-users] R: [JeromeDL-users] R: nlqueries_it properties

[Giuseppe B. <giu...@al...>]

Sebastian,
in my email dated 03/06/2008 I let you know that the issue was fixed and I
attached the running version of nlqueries_it.properties. Now I attach it
again to this email. However, because of the need of more appropriate
queries, for the purpose of the dContentWare project, we are setting
different nlqueries both in Italian and in English, and so related different
rdf templates. Such a changing process is still on going but we have an
intermediate result which is working. You can access our being customized
jeromedl instance at http://83.103.85.125:8080/jeromedl/ and so you can test
the current state of our NL queries. Templates 1, 2, 5 should be the
expected final one, while the templates 3 and 4 should be changed asap.

Cheers,
Giuseppe

-----Messaggio originale-----
Da: Sebastian Kruk [mailto:seb...@gm...] 
Inviato: giovedì 26 giugno 2008 16.02
A: Giuseppe Bux
Cc: 'Maria Cammarrota'; 'Antonio Chieti'; 'JeromeDL Users'; 'S3b-users'
Oggetto: Re: [JeromeDL-users] R: nlqueries_it properties

Hi Giuseppe,

I am trying to track old, unresolved issues.
Has this been fixed already? Or can I still help you with it? If the  
latter - can you send me the most recent version of the italian query  
templates?

Thanks,

Sebastian

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On 22 May 2008, at 09:25, Giuseppe Bux wrote:

> Hi Sebastian,
> After my last rebuilding, this morning,  both of the jarNlq and the  
> of the jeromedl I have an error 500 report generated at the enaction  
> of the semantic search feature: Please find here the attached  error  
> report.
> Really at a first rebuilding, yesterday, the enaction of the  
> semantic search feature was successful  as well the execution of the  
> first option (publish all publication…..), although this  successful  
> behavior was occurring only in the case of  the english version (i.e  
> nlqueries_en. properties), while in the case of the other locale  
> versions the JWA-533 was still persistent.
>
> I do not find a plausible explanation of the different system  
> behavior after the rebuilding  of nlq and jeromedl projects: I hope  
> you could suggest me a possible cause.
>
> As to the below open questions:
> 1)      Yes, I updated the nlq_locale.count value;
> 2)      I think the http://wiki.s3b.corrib.org/NLQ requires  
> expansion about the grammar used in regexp specification; I consider  
> important that to support customization of the nlqueries templates.
> 3)      As to my introduction to this email, the error seems as  
> fixed for the nlqueries_en  template but it still occurs for the  
> other nlqueries.xx template;
> 4)      Yes, I am sending a ticket to Jira.
>
> Semantic query customization is a very necessary task in my   
> dContentWare project, not only in terms of language translation, but  
> more in terms of alternative rdf queries and related templates to  
> implement. Obviously, the pure _it translation of the current _en  
> template is a first important step. I hope to realize that with your  
> help.
>
> Cheers,
> Giuseppe
>
> Da: Sebastian Kruk [mailto:seb...@gm...]
> Inviato: mercoledì 21 maggio 2008 15.34
> A: Giuseppe Bux
> Cc: S3b-users; JeromeDL Users; Antonio Chieti; Maria Cammarrota
> Oggetto: Re: [JeromeDL-users] nlqueries_it properties
>
> Dear Giuseppe,
>
> I am sorry for getting back to you that late - but we are all still  
> recovering from the DERI Review madness last week :)
>
> To answer your questions:
> 1) did you change nlq_locale.count value?
>
> 2) take a look at http://wiki.s3b.corrib.org/NLQ and let me know if  
> it requires any further explanation
>
> 3) fixed - there were two issues there: a) a group capture  
> definition in regexp b) missing USING NAMESPACE in SeRQL query
>
> 4) At the moment NLQ only allows to define SELECT queries which  
> return a vector of results (not a table). Further more, JeromeDL  
> cannot render (currently) other objects than library resources. An  
> option would be to use MBB to render results. However, at this stage  
> I do not plan (in the near future) to extend NLQ since I do not have  
> time / people / resources to do it. But I do get your point, and I  
> think it is valid. Can you please send a ticket to JIRA with it?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Sebastian
>
>
> -- seb...@gm...
> -- GG: 335067, 
> -- Jabber: seb...@gm...
> -- Skype: sebastiankruk
> -- WWW: http://www.sebastiankruk.com/ 
>
>
>
>
> On 12 May 2008, at 09:36, Giuseppe Bux wrote:
>
>
> Hi Sebastian,
> please takes into account some additional feedback from my current  
> work on nlqueries_it translation and, in general, on nlqueries  
> customization:
>
> 1) nlq_locale.x=yy:
> I enabled  the nlq_locale.x=yy  for all the available nlqueries_yy  
> templates (that is: en, it, pl, de, pt_BR, uk), however only the  
> nlqueries_pt_BR template, when invoked, is able to show, in its own  
> language, both the NL query options, in the selectabe text area,  
> and  the selected one, in the body of the query window (really, the  
> last available options, about finding of articles in a given domain,  
> is still shown in English). This behavior occurs also on
http://bleedingedge.jeromedl.org./ 
> .
>
> 2) nlq_template.x.regexp.x expressions:
> an explanation grammar could be useful to easily allow users to  
> customize the expressions;
>
> 3) Show me all publications in the library:
> this option still fails, as from my  report JWA-533; I tried to  
> replace the  current "Select" query with the old "Construct" one,  
> but the failure remains: it is not a problem of query but of its  
> invoking code.
>
> 4) More general  RDF queries:  it could be useful to allow users to  
> set more general rdf queries. I tried the following query about  
> authors of the published books:
>
> Select DISTINCT *
> FROM {r} marcont:hasCreator {} foaf:name {t}; foaf:mbox {m}
> USING NAMESPACE  marcont = <http://www.marcont.org/ontology#>, foaf  
> = <http://xmlns.com/foaf/0.1/>
> As from the above query, it could be useful to extract some  
> information about authors  of publications (ex. the email address,  
> or the biography), but the JDL result concerns only the list of  
> publications, without the required additional information about the  
> related authors.
>
>
> Not more to add: I hope the above feedback could soon have suitable  
> solutions.
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> Giuseppe
>
>
>  ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Giuseppe Bux" <giu...@al...>
> To: "Sebastian Kruk" <seb...@gm...>
> Cc: "Sebastian Kruk" <seb...@de...>; "Maria Cammarrota"
<cam...@or... 
> >; "Antonio Chieti" <in...@or...>; "JeromeDL Users"
<jer...@li... 
> >
> Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2008 6:26 PM
> Subject: Re: [JeromeDL-users] nlqueries_it properties
>
> > Hi Sebastian,
> >
> > see below inline my answers.
> > Moreover: where can I read about the grammar of
> > nlq_template.0.regexp.0 ?
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Giuseppe
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Sebastian Kruk" <seb...@gm...>
> > To: "Giuseppe Bux" <giu...@al...>
> > Cc: "Sebastian Kruk" <seb...@de...>; "Maria Cammarrota"
> > <cam...@or...>; "Antonio Chieti"  
> <in...@or...>;
> > "JeromeDL Users" <jer...@li...>
> > Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2008 4:40 PM
> > Subject: Re: [JeromeDL-users] nlqueries_it properties
> >
> >
> > Hi Giuseppe,
> >
> > just from the top of my head:
> >
> > 1) Did you update nlqueries_rdf.properties
> >
> > e.g.:
> >
> > nlq_locale.0=en
> > nlq_locale.1=pt_BR
> > nlq_locale.2=it
> > nlq_locale.count=3
> >
> > ?
> > yes, I  did.
> >
> > 2) looking at your screenshot - I have noticed that you have  
> language
> > "en " selected and the rest of the page is in Italian - how that
> > happened? Maybe this is the cause?
> >
> > The same is with "it" label selected.
> >
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > S.
> >
> > -- seb...@gm...
> > -- GG: 335067,
> > -- Jabber: seb...@gm...
> > -- Skype: sebastiankruk
> > -- WWW: http://www.sebastiankruk.com/
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 8 May 2008, at 15:17, Giuseppe Bux wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Sebastian,
> >> I’m working to the Italian translation of the   
> nlqueries_en.properties.
> >> Please read, in the following, the  translation example on the
> >> nlq.template.0. After the translation I  rebuilt the s3b_nlq.jar  
> and
> >> copied it both in the jeromedl/lib and  in the tomcat/lib folders.
> >> The result is as in http://screencast.com/t/SY7dY7xLH3 : that is, I
> >> obtain the translation in the body of the NLQ window but  in the   
> option
> >> selection text  area the English text still remains.
> >> Obviously I updated also the nlqnlqueries_rdf.properties.
> >> What is missing/wrong in my translation process?
> >>
> >> Thank you,
> >> Giuseppe
> >>
> >>
> >> # -- template definition (0) ------
> >> nlq_template.0.example_template=Mostra tutte le pubblicazioni   
> registrate
> >> in libreria.
> >> nlq_template.0.explain         =Mostra tutte le pubblicazioni/  
> risorse
> >> registrate in questa libreria digitale.
> >> nlq_template.0.regexp.0        =Mostra\\s+(?:mi)?\\s*(?:tutte\\s+|
> >> ogni\\s+|qualsiasi)?\\s*(?:risorsa[e]?\\s+|pubblicazione[i]?\\s+|
> >> articolo[i]?\\s+|(?:qualsiasi)?oggetto)?\\s*in\\s+(?:nella\\s+|
> >> questa)?\\s*(digital)?\\s*library[\\s.?!]*$
> >> # nlq_template.0.regexp.0        =Show\\s+(?:me)?\\s*(?:all\\s+| 
> each\
> >> \s+|every)?\\s*(?:resource[s]?\\s+|publication[s]?\\s+|article[s]? 
> \\s
> >> +|(?:every)?thing)?\\s*in\\s+(?:the\\s+|this)?\\s*(digital)?\
> >> \s*library[\\s.?!]*$
> >> nlq_template.0.regexp.count    =1
> >>
> >>
> >>  
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Re: [S3b-users] [JeromeDL-users] R: R: nlqueries_it properties

[Sebastian K. <seb...@gm...>]

Great - nice to know it works - I will take a look at the DRM issue  
tomorrow morning.

I have noticed that the images are missing translation in Italian.
@Ewelina - could you please touch base with Giuseppe and provide  
translated images?

Thanks,

Sebastian



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On 26 Jun 2008, at 15:30, Giuseppe Bux wrote:

> Sebastian,
> in my email dated 03/06/2008 I let you know that the issue was fixed  
> and I
> attached the running version of nlqueries_it.properties. Now I  
> attach it
> again to this email. However, because of the need of more appropriate
> queries, for the purpose of the dContentWare project, we are setting
> different nlqueries both in Italian and in English, and so related  
> different
> rdf templates. Such a changing process is still on going but we have  
> an
> intermediate result which is working. You can access our being  
> customized
> jeromedl instance at http://83.103.85.125:8080/jeromedl/ and so you  
> can test
> the current state of our NL queries. Templates 1, 2, 5 should be the
> expected final one, while the templates 3 and 4 should be changed  
> asap.
>
> Cheers,
> Giuseppe
>
> -----Messaggio originale-----
> Da: Sebastian Kruk [mailto:seb...@gm...]
> Inviato: giovedì 26 giugno 2008 16.02
> A: Giuseppe Bux
> Cc: 'Maria Cammarrota'; 'Antonio Chieti'; 'JeromeDL Users'; 'S3b- 
> users'
> Oggetto: Re: [JeromeDL-users] R: nlqueries_it properties
>
> Hi Giuseppe,
>
> I am trying to track old, unresolved issues.
> Has this been fixed already? Or can I still help you with it? If the
> latter - can you send me the most recent version of the italian query
> templates?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Sebastian
>
> -- seb...@gm...
> -- GG: 335067, 
> -- Jabber: seb...@gm...
> -- Skype: sebastiankruk
> -- WWW: http://www.sebastiankruk.com/ 
>
>
>
>
> On 22 May 2008, at 09:25, Giuseppe Bux wrote:
>
>> Hi Sebastian,
>> After my last rebuilding, this morning,  both of the jarNlq and the
>> of the jeromedl I have an error 500 report generated at the enaction
>> of the semantic search feature: Please find here the attached  error
>> report.
>> Really at a first rebuilding, yesterday, the enaction of the
>> semantic search feature was successful  as well the execution of the
>> first option (publish all publication…..), although this  successful
>> behavior was occurring only in the case of  the english version (i.e
>> nlqueries_en. properties), while in the case of the other locale
>> versions the JWA-533 was still persistent.
>>
>> I do not find a plausible explanation of the different system
>> behavior after the rebuilding  of nlq and jeromedl projects: I hope
>> you could suggest me a possible cause.
>>
>> As to the below open questions:
>> 1)      Yes, I updated the nlq_locale.count value;
>> 2)      I think the http://wiki.s3b.corrib.org/NLQ requires
>> expansion about the grammar used in regexp specification; I consider
>> important that to support customization of the nlqueries templates.
>> 3)      As to my introduction to this email, the error seems as
>> fixed for the nlqueries_en  template but it still occurs for the
>> other nlqueries.xx template;
>> 4)      Yes, I am sending a ticket to Jira.
>>
>> Semantic query customization is a very necessary task in my
>> dContentWare project, not only in terms of language translation, but
>> more in terms of alternative rdf queries and related templates to
>> implement. Obviously, the pure _it translation of the current _en
>> template is a first important step. I hope to realize that with your
>> help.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Giuseppe
>>
>> Da: Sebastian Kruk [mailto:seb...@gm...]
>> Inviato: mercoledì 21 maggio 2008 15.34
>> A: Giuseppe Bux
>> Cc: S3b-users; JeromeDL Users; Antonio Chieti; Maria Cammarrota
>> Oggetto: Re: [JeromeDL-users] nlqueries_it properties
>>
>> Dear Giuseppe,
>>
>> I am sorry for getting back to you that late - but we are all still
>> recovering from the DERI Review madness last week :)
>>
>> To answer your questions:
>> 1) did you change nlq_locale.count value?
>>
>> 2) take a look at http://wiki.s3b.corrib.org/NLQ and let me know if
>> it requires any further explanation
>>
>> 3) fixed - there were two issues there: a) a group capture
>> definition in regexp b) missing USING NAMESPACE in SeRQL query
>>
>> 4) At the moment NLQ only allows to define SELECT queries which
>> return a vector of results (not a table). Further more, JeromeDL
>> cannot render (currently) other objects than library resources. An
>> option would be to use MBB to render results. However, at this stage
>> I do not plan (in the near future) to extend NLQ since I do not have
>> time / people / resources to do it. But I do get your point, and I
>> think it is valid. Can you please send a ticket to JIRA with it?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Sebastian
>>
>>
>> -- seb...@gm...
>> -- GG: 335067, 
>> -- Jabber: seb...@gm...
>> -- Skype: sebastiankruk
>> -- WWW: http://www.sebastiankruk.com/ 
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 12 May 2008, at 09:36, Giuseppe Bux wrote:
>>
>>
>> Hi Sebastian,
>> please takes into account some additional feedback from my current
>> work on nlqueries_it translation and, in general, on nlqueries
>> customization:
>>
>> 1) nlq_locale.x=yy:
>> I enabled  the nlq_locale.x=yy  for all the available nlqueries_yy
>> templates (that is: en, it, pl, de, pt_BR, uk), however only the
>> nlqueries_pt_BR template, when invoked, is able to show, in its own
>> language, both the NL query options, in the selectabe text area,
>> and  the selected one, in the body of the query window (really, the
>> last available options, about finding of articles in a given domain,
>> is still shown in English). This behavior occurs also on
> http://bleedingedge.jeromedl.org./
>> .
>>
>> 2) nlq_template.x.regexp.x expressions:
>> an explanation grammar could be useful to easily allow users to
>> customize the expressions;
>>
>> 3) Show me all publications in the library:
>> this option still fails, as from my  report JWA-533; I tried to
>> replace the  current "Select" query with the old "Construct" one,
>> but the failure remains: it is not a problem of query but of its
>> invoking code.
>>
>> 4) More general  RDF queries:  it could be useful to allow users to
>> set more general rdf queries. I tried the following query about
>> authors of the published books:
>>
>> Select DISTINCT *
>> FROM {r} marcont:hasCreator {} foaf:name {t}; foaf:mbox {m}
>> USING NAMESPACE  marcont = <http://www.marcont.org/ontology#>, foaf
>> = <http://xmlns.com/foaf/0.1/>
>> As from the above query, it could be useful to extract some
>> information about authors  of publications (ex. the email address,
>> or the biography), but the JDL result concerns only the list of
>> publications, without the required additional information about the
>> related authors.
>>
>>
>> Not more to add: I hope the above feedback could soon have suitable
>> solutions.
>>
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Giuseppe
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Giuseppe Bux" <giu...@al...>
>> To: "Sebastian Kruk" <seb...@gm...>
>> Cc: "Sebastian Kruk" <seb...@de...>; "Maria Cammarrota"
> <cam...@or...
>>> ; "Antonio Chieti" <in...@or...>; "JeromeDL Users"
> <jer...@li...
>>>
>> Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2008 6:26 PM
>> Subject: Re: [JeromeDL-users] nlqueries_it properties
>>
>>> Hi Sebastian,
>>>
>>> see below inline my answers.
>>> Moreover: where can I read about the grammar of
>>> nlq_template.0.regexp.0 ?
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Giuseppe
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Sebastian Kruk" <seb...@gm...>
>>> To: "Giuseppe Bux" <giu...@al...>
>>> Cc: "Sebastian Kruk" <seb...@de...>; "Maria Cammarrota"
>>> <cam...@or...>; "Antonio Chieti"
>> <in...@or...>;
>>> "JeromeDL Users" <jer...@li...>
>>> Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2008 4:40 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [JeromeDL-users] nlqueries_it properties
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi Giuseppe,
>>>
>>> just from the top of my head:
>>>
>>> 1) Did you update nlqueries_rdf.properties
>>>
>>> e.g.:
>>>
>>> nlq_locale.0=en
>>> nlq_locale.1=pt_BR
>>> nlq_locale.2=it
>>> nlq_locale.count=3
>>>
>>> ?
>>> yes, I  did.
>>>
>>> 2) looking at your screenshot - I have noticed that you have
>> language
>>> "en " selected and the rest of the page is in Italian - how that
>>> happened? Maybe this is the cause?
>>>
>>> The same is with "it" label selected.
>>>
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> S.
>>>
>>> -- seb...@gm...
>>> -- GG: 335067,
>>> -- Jabber: seb...@gm...
>>> -- Skype: sebastiankruk
>>> -- WWW: http://www.sebastiankruk.com/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 8 May 2008, at 15:17, Giuseppe Bux wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Sebastian,
>>>> I’m working to the Italian translation of the
>> nlqueries_en.properties.
>>>> Please read, in the following, the  translation example on the
>>>> nlq.template.0. After the translation I  rebuilt the s3b_nlq.jar
>> and
>>>> copied it both in the jeromedl/lib and  in the tomcat/lib folders.
>>>> The result is as in http://screencast.com/t/SY7dY7xLH3 : that is, I
>>>> obtain the translation in the body of the NLQ window but  in the
>> option
>>>> selection text  area the English text still remains.
>>>> Obviously I updated also the nlqnlqueries_rdf.properties.
>>>> What is missing/wrong in my translation process?
>>>>
>>>> Thank you,
>>>> Giuseppe
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> # -- template definition (0) ------
>>>> nlq_template.0.example_template=Mostra tutte le pubblicazioni
>> registrate
>>>> in libreria.
>>>> nlq_template.0.explain         =Mostra tutte le pubblicazioni/
>> risorse
>>>> registrate in questa libreria digitale.
>>>> nlq_template.0.regexp.0        =Mostra\\s+(?:mi)?\\s*(?:tutte\\s+|
>>>> ogni\\s+|qualsiasi)?\\s*(?:risorsa[e]?\\s+|pubblicazione[i]?\\s+|
>>>> articolo[i]?\\s+|(?:qualsiasi)?oggetto)?\\s*in\\s+(?:nella\\s+|
>>>> questa)?\\s*(digital)?\\s*library[\\s.?!]*$
>>>> # nlq_template.0.regexp.0        =Show\\s+(?:me)?\\s*(?:all\\s+|
>> each\
>>>> \s+|every)?\\s*(?:resource[s]?\\s+|publication[s]?\\s+|article[s]?
>> \\s
>>>> +|(?:every)?thing)?\\s*in\\s+(?:the\\s+|this)?\\s*(digital)?\
>>>> \s*library[\\s.?!]*$
>>>> nlq_template.0.regexp.count    =1
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>> This SF.net email is sponsored by the 2008 JavaOne(SM) Conference
>>>> Don't miss this year's exciting event. There's still time to
>> save  $100.
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Re: [S3b-users] [JeromeDL-users] R: R: nlqueries_it properties

[Ewelina K. <ewe...@gm...>]

yes, sure I will do it

Ewelina

2008/6/26 Sebastian Kruk <seb...@gm...>:

> Great - nice to know it works - I will take a look at the DRM issue
> tomorrow morning.
>
> I have noticed that the images are missing translation in Italian.
> @Ewelina - could you please touch base with Giuseppe and provide translated
> images?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Sebastian
>
>
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> On 26 Jun 2008, at 15:30, Giuseppe Bux wrote:
>
>  Sebastian,
>> in my email dated 03/06/2008 I let you know that the issue was fixed and I
>> attached the running version of nlqueries_it.properties. Now I attach it
>> again to this email. However, because of the need of more appropriate
>> queries, for the purpose of the dContentWare project, we are setting
>> different nlqueries both in Italian and in English, and so related
>> different
>> rdf templates. Such a changing process is still on going but we have an
>> intermediate result which is working. You can access our being customized
>> jeromedl instance at http://83.103.85.125:8080/jeromedl/ and so you can
>> test
>> the current state of our NL queries. Templates 1, 2, 5 should be the
>> expected final one, while the templates 3 and 4 should be changed asap.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Giuseppe
>>
>> -----Messaggio originale-----
>> Da: Sebastian Kruk [mailto:seb...@gm...]
>> Inviato: giovedì 26 giugno 2008 16.02
>> A: Giuseppe Bux
>> Cc: 'Maria Cammarrota'; 'Antonio Chieti'; 'JeromeDL Users'; 'S3b-users'
>> Oggetto: Re: [JeromeDL-users] R: nlqueries_it properties
>>
>> Hi Giuseppe,
>>
>> I am trying to track old, unresolved issues.
>> Has this been fixed already? Or can I still help you with it? If the
>> latter - can you send me the most recent version of the italian query
>> templates?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Sebastian
>>
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>>
>>
>> On 22 May 2008, at 09:25, Giuseppe Bux wrote:
>>
>>  Hi Sebastian,
>>> After my last rebuilding, this morning,  both of the jarNlq and the
>>> of the jeromedl I have an error 500 report generated at the enaction
>>> of the semantic search feature: Please find here the attached  error
>>> report.
>>> Really at a first rebuilding, yesterday, the enaction of the
>>> semantic search feature was successful  as well the execution of the
>>> first option (publish all publication…..), although this  successful
>>> behavior was occurring only in the case of  the english version (i.e
>>> nlqueries_en. properties), while in the case of the other locale
>>> versions the JWA-533 was still persistent.
>>>
>>> I do not find a plausible explanation of the different system
>>> behavior after the rebuilding  of nlq and jeromedl projects: I hope
>>> you could suggest me a possible cause.
>>>
>>> As to the below open questions:
>>> 1)      Yes, I updated the nlq_locale.count value;
>>> 2)      I think the http://wiki.s3b.corrib.org/NLQ requires
>>> expansion about the grammar used in regexp specification; I consider
>>> important that to support customization of the nlqueries templates.
>>> 3)      As to my introduction to this email, the error seems as
>>> fixed for the nlqueries_en  template but it still occurs for the
>>> other nlqueries.xx template;
>>> 4)      Yes, I am sending a ticket to Jira.
>>>
>>> Semantic query customization is a very necessary task in my
>>> dContentWare project, not only in terms of language translation, but
>>> more in terms of alternative rdf queries and related templates to
>>> implement. Obviously, the pure _it translation of the current _en
>>> template is a first important step. I hope to realize that with your
>>> help.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Giuseppe
>>>
>>> Da: Sebastian Kruk [mailto:seb...@gm...]
>>> Inviato: mercoledì 21 maggio 2008 15.34
>>> A: Giuseppe Bux
>>> Cc: S3b-users; JeromeDL Users; Antonio Chieti; Maria Cammarrota
>>> Oggetto: Re: [JeromeDL-users] nlqueries_it properties
>>>
>>> Dear Giuseppe,
>>>
>>> I am sorry for getting back to you that late - but we are all still
>>> recovering from the DERI Review madness last week :)
>>>
>>> To answer your questions:
>>> 1) did you change nlq_locale.count value?
>>>
>>> 2) take a look at http://wiki.s3b.corrib.org/NLQ and let me know if
>>> it requires any further explanation
>>>
>>> 3) fixed - there were two issues there: a) a group capture
>>> definition in regexp b) missing USING NAMESPACE in SeRQL query
>>>
>>> 4) At the moment NLQ only allows to define SELECT queries which
>>> return a vector of results (not a table). Further more, JeromeDL
>>> cannot render (currently) other objects than library resources. An
>>> option would be to use MBB to render results. However, at this stage
>>> I do not plan (in the near future) to extend NLQ since I do not have
>>> time / people / resources to do it. But I do get your point, and I
>>> think it is valid. Can you please send a ticket to JIRA with it?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Sebastian
>>>
>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>> On 12 May 2008, at 09:36, Giuseppe Bux wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi Sebastian,
>>> please takes into account some additional feedback from my current
>>> work on nlqueries_it translation and, in general, on nlqueries
>>> customization:
>>>
>>> 1) nlq_locale.x=yy:
>>> I enabled  the nlq_locale.x=yy  for all the available nlqueries_yy
>>> templates (that is: en, it, pl, de, pt_BR, uk), however only the
>>> nlqueries_pt_BR template, when invoked, is able to show, in its own
>>> language, both the NL query options, in the selectabe text area,
>>> and  the selected one, in the body of the query window (really, the
>>> last available options, about finding of articles in a given domain,
>>> is still shown in English). This behavior occurs also on
>>>
>> http://bleedingedge.jeromedl.org./
>>
>>> .
>>>
>>> 2) nlq_template.x.regexp.x expressions:
>>> an explanation grammar could be useful to easily allow users to
>>> customize the expressions;
>>>
>>> 3) Show me all publications in the library:
>>> this option still fails, as from my  report JWA-533; I tried to
>>> replace the  current "Select" query with the old "Construct" one,
>>> but the failure remains: it is not a problem of query but of its
>>> invoking code.
>>>
>>> 4) More general  RDF queries:  it could be useful to allow users to
>>> set more general rdf queries. I tried the following query about
>>> authors of the published books:
>>>
>>> Select DISTINCT *
>>> FROM {r} marcont:hasCreator {} foaf:name {t}; foaf:mbox {m}
>>> USING NAMESPACE  marcont = <http://www.marcont.org/ontology#>, foaf
>>> = <http://xmlns.com/foaf/0.1/>
>>> As from the above query, it could be useful to extract some
>>> information about authors  of publications (ex. the email address,
>>> or the biography), but the JDL result concerns only the list of
>>> publications, without the required additional information about the
>>> related authors.
>>>
>>>
>>> Not more to add: I hope the above feedback could soon have suitable
>>> solutions.
>>>
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Giuseppe
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Giuseppe Bux" <giu...@al...>
>>> To: "Sebastian Kruk" <seb...@gm...>
>>> Cc: "Sebastian Kruk" <seb...@de...>; "Maria Cammarrota"
>>>
>> <cam...@or...
>>
>>> ; "Antonio Chieti" <in...@or...>; "JeromeDL Users"
>>>>
>>> <jer...@li...
>>
>>>
>>>>  Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2008 6:26 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [JeromeDL-users] nlqueries_it properties
>>>
>>>  Hi Sebastian,
>>>>
>>>> see below inline my answers.
>>>> Moreover: where can I read about the grammar of
>>>> nlq_template.0.regexp.0 ?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Giuseppe
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Sebastian Kruk" <seb...@gm...>
>>>> To: "Giuseppe Bux" <giu...@al...>
>>>> Cc: "Sebastian Kruk" <seb...@de...>; "Maria Cammarrota"
>>>> <cam...@or...>; "Antonio Chieti"
>>>>
>>> <in...@or...>;
>>>
>>>> "JeromeDL Users" <jer...@li...>
>>>> Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2008 4:40 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [JeromeDL-users] nlqueries_it properties
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi Giuseppe,
>>>>
>>>> just from the top of my head:
>>>>
>>>> 1) Did you update nlqueries_rdf.properties
>>>>
>>>> e.g.:
>>>>
>>>> nlq_locale.0=en
>>>> nlq_locale.1=pt_BR
>>>> nlq_locale.2=it
>>>> nlq_locale.count=3
>>>>
>>>> ?
>>>> yes, I  did.
>>>>
>>>> 2) looking at your screenshot - I have noticed that you have
>>>>
>>> language
>>>
>>>> "en " selected and the rest of the page is in Italian - how that
>>>> happened? Maybe this is the cause?
>>>>
>>>> The same is with "it" label selected.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>>
>>>> S.
>>>>
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 8 May 2008, at 15:17, Giuseppe Bux wrote:
>>>>
>>>>  Hi Sebastian,
>>>>> I'm working to the Italian translation of the
>>>>>
>>>> nlqueries_en.properties.
>>>
>>>> Please read, in the following, the  translation example on the
>>>>> nlq.template.0. After the translation I  rebuilt the s3b_nlq.jar
>>>>>
>>>> and
>>>
>>>> copied it both in the jeromedl/lib and  in the tomcat/lib folders.
>>>>> The result is as in http://screencast.com/t/SY7dY7xLH3 : that is, I
>>>>> obtain the translation in the body of the NLQ window but  in the
>>>>>
>>>> option
>>>
>>>> selection text  area the English text still remains.
>>>>> Obviously I updated also the nlqnlqueries_rdf.properties.
>>>>> What is missing/wrong in my translation process?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you,
>>>>> Giuseppe
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> # -- template definition (0) ------
>>>>> nlq_template.0.example_template=Mostra tutte le pubblicazioni
>>>>>
>>>> registrate
>>>
>>>> in libreria.
>>>>> nlq_template.0.explain         =Mostra tutte le pubblicazioni/
>>>>>
>>>> risorse
>>>
>>>> registrate in questa libreria digitale.
>>>>> nlq_template.0.regexp.0        =Mostra\\s+(?:mi)?\\s*(?:tutte\\s+|
>>>>> ogni\\s+|qualsiasi)?\\s*(?:risorsa[e]?\\s+|pubblicazione[i]?\\s+|
>>>>> articolo[i]?\\s+|(?:qualsiasi)?oggetto)?\\s*in\\s+(?:nella\\s+|
>>>>> questa)?\\s*(digital)?\\s*library[\\s.?!]*$
>>>>> # nlq_template.0.regexp.0        =Show\\s+(?:me)?\\s*(?:all\\s+|
>>>>>
>>>> each\
>>>
>>>> \s+|every)?\\s*(?:resource[s]?\\s+|publication[s]?\\s+|article[s]?
>>>>>
>>>> \\s
>>>
>>>> +|(?:every)?thing)?\\s*in\\s+(?:the\\s+|this)?\\s*(digital)?\
>>>>> \s*library[\\s.?!]*$
>>>>> nlq_template.0.regexp.count    =1
>>>>>
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